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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Kimihiko Kitase <Ki...@citrix.co.jp> on 2012/06/25 06:14:36 UTC
CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Hi, We also want Japanese user mailing list like Chinese user mailing list. How do we create?
--Kimi
-----Original Message-----
From: Edison Su [mailto:Edison.su@citrix.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:42 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: CloudStack Chinese user mailing list
Glad to announce that CloudStack Chinese user mailing list is created, just few minutes ago.
To subscribe: please send email to cloudstack-users-cn-subscribe@incubator.apache.org.
BTW, it's Mandarin only though, maybe a little bit Cantonese is OK...:)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:45 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Can we use other language here?
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Sheng Yang <sh...@yasker.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:29 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Wido den Hollander
> >> <wi...@widodh.nl>
> wrote:
> >>> On 06/19/2012 02:50 PM, Robert Schweikert wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 06/19/2012 05:43 AM, Lu Heng wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One very interesting question raised by my Chinese tech today,
> can we
> >>>>> use Chinese in the mailling list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. Seems there is no language restriction about in the mailling
> list,
> >>>>> and all language should be equal.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. As I read and touched these days in the mailling list, a lot
> guy
> >>>>> from crixi developing CS are in fact Chinese.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If this is needed then we should have a language specific list.
> However,
> >>>> from a development point of view that'll put a big dent into
> >>>> collaboration.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'd see a cloudstack-users-cn mailinglist earlier then a Chinese
> developer
> >>> list.
> >>>
> >>> My €0,02 says we should stick to English on the development list
> >>> to
> keep
> >>> collaboration consistent. English isn't my native language either,
> but it
> >>> seems to be accepted as the language in software development?
> >>>
> >>> As far as I know English is harder to learn for Chinese people due
> to the
> >>> huge language differences. I wouldn't vote against a Chinese
> development
> >>> list, but I wouldn't endorse it either, due to the above reasons.
> >>>
> >>> Wido
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> My $0.02
> >>>> Robert
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Generally a project uses a single language for development purposes
> >> and while there is no technical barrier, splitting up the developer
> >> community by language seems more deleterious than beneficial.
> >>
> >> This is further complicated by the fact that decisions have to be
> made
> >> on the mailing list - which then begs the question - where can
> binding
> >> decisions be made? In Apache projects that is supposed to happen on
> >> the -dev list. However with two -dev lists that becomes a bit more
> >> difficult.
> >>
> >> So my personal take on the matter:
> >> We have a number of developers for whom English is not their native
> >> tongue - but it remains a common tongue for us. I'd certainly have
> no
> >> objection to language-specific user mailing lists. But missing
> entire
> >> development conversations, strikes me as a bad thing.
> >>
> >> Thoughts, comments, flames?
> >
> > Agree. There should be no knowledge barrier between developers.
> >
> > And I am quite believe in English education in China. Again, don't
> > worry about grammar or misspell etc.
> >
> > And localized user mailing is necessary I think.
> >
> > --Sheng
> >>
> >> --David
>
> Sheng, or Edison - feel free to create a ticket for INFRA at
> issues.apache.org to create a Chinese language user mailing list.
>
> --David
RE: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Posted by Kevin Kluge <Ke...@citrix.com>.
Kimi, create a ticket for INFRA at http://issues.apache.org. following the convention with cn this would create cloudstack-users-jp@incubator.apache.org.
-kevin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kimihiko Kitase [mailto:Kimihiko.Kitase@citrix.co.jp]
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:15 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
>
> Hi, We also want Japanese user mailing list like Chinese user mailing list. How
> do we create?
>
> --Kimi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edison Su [mailto:Edison.su@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:42 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: CloudStack Chinese user mailing list
>
> Glad to announce that CloudStack Chinese user mailing list is created, just
> few minutes ago.
> To subscribe: please send email to cloudstack-users-cn-
> subscribe@incubator.apache.org.
> BTW, it's Mandarin only though, maybe a little bit Cantonese is OK...:)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:45 PM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Can we use other language here?
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Sheng Yang <sh...@yasker.org> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:29 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Wido den Hollander
> > >> <wi...@widodh.nl>
> > wrote:
> > >>> On 06/19/2012 02:50 PM, Robert Schweikert wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 06/19/2012 05:43 AM, Lu Heng wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> One very interesting question raised by my Chinese tech today,
> > can we
> > >>>>> use Chinese in the mailling list.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1. Seems there is no language restriction about in the mailling
> > list,
> > >>>>> and all language should be equal.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2. As I read and touched these days in the mailling list, a lot
> > guy
> > >>>>> from crixi developing CS are in fact Chinese.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Any thoughts?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If this is needed then we should have a language specific list.
> > However,
> > >>>> from a development point of view that'll put a big dent into
> > >>>> collaboration.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd see a cloudstack-users-cn mailinglist earlier then a Chinese
> > developer
> > >>> list.
> > >>>
> > >>> My €0,02 says we should stick to English on the development list
> > >>> to
> > keep
> > >>> collaboration consistent. English isn't my native language either,
> > but it
> > >>> seems to be accepted as the language in software development?
> > >>>
> > >>> As far as I know English is harder to learn for Chinese people due
> > to the
> > >>> huge language differences. I wouldn't vote against a Chinese
> > development
> > >>> list, but I wouldn't endorse it either, due to the above reasons.
> > >>>
> > >>> Wido
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My $0.02
> > >>>> Robert
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Generally a project uses a single language for development purposes
> > >> and while there is no technical barrier, splitting up the developer
> > >> community by language seems more deleterious than beneficial.
> > >>
> > >> This is further complicated by the fact that decisions have to be
> > made
> > >> on the mailing list - which then begs the question - where can
> > binding
> > >> decisions be made? In Apache projects that is supposed to happen on
> > >> the -dev list. However with two -dev lists that becomes a bit more
> > >> difficult.
> > >>
> > >> So my personal take on the matter:
> > >> We have a number of developers for whom English is not their native
> > >> tongue - but it remains a common tongue for us. I'd certainly have
> > no
> > >> objection to language-specific user mailing lists. But missing
> > entire
> > >> development conversations, strikes me as a bad thing.
> > >>
> > >> Thoughts, comments, flames?
> > >
> > > Agree. There should be no knowledge barrier between developers.
> > >
> > > And I am quite believe in English education in China. Again, don't
> > > worry about grammar or misspell etc.
> > >
> > > And localized user mailing is necessary I think.
> > >
> > > --Sheng
> > >>
> > >> --David
> >
> > Sheng, or Edison - feel free to create a ticket for INFRA at
> > issues.apache.org to create a Chinese language user mailing list.
> >
> > --David
RE: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Posted by Kevin Kluge <Ke...@citrix.com>.
Kimi, create a ticket for INFRA at http://issues.apache.org. following the convention with cn this would create cloudstack-users-jp@incubator.apache.org.
-kevin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kimihiko Kitase [mailto:Kimihiko.Kitase@citrix.co.jp]
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:15 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
>
> Hi, We also want Japanese user mailing list like Chinese user mailing list. How
> do we create?
>
> --Kimi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edison Su [mailto:Edison.su@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:42 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: CloudStack Chinese user mailing list
>
> Glad to announce that CloudStack Chinese user mailing list is created, just
> few minutes ago.
> To subscribe: please send email to cloudstack-users-cn-
> subscribe@incubator.apache.org.
> BTW, it's Mandarin only though, maybe a little bit Cantonese is OK...:)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:45 PM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Can we use other language here?
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Sheng Yang <sh...@yasker.org> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:29 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Wido den Hollander
> > >> <wi...@widodh.nl>
> > wrote:
> > >>> On 06/19/2012 02:50 PM, Robert Schweikert wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 06/19/2012 05:43 AM, Lu Heng wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> One very interesting question raised by my Chinese tech today,
> > can we
> > >>>>> use Chinese in the mailling list.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1. Seems there is no language restriction about in the mailling
> > list,
> > >>>>> and all language should be equal.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2. As I read and touched these days in the mailling list, a lot
> > guy
> > >>>>> from crixi developing CS are in fact Chinese.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Any thoughts?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If this is needed then we should have a language specific list.
> > However,
> > >>>> from a development point of view that'll put a big dent into
> > >>>> collaboration.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd see a cloudstack-users-cn mailinglist earlier then a Chinese
> > developer
> > >>> list.
> > >>>
> > >>> My €0,02 says we should stick to English on the development list
> > >>> to
> > keep
> > >>> collaboration consistent. English isn't my native language either,
> > but it
> > >>> seems to be accepted as the language in software development?
> > >>>
> > >>> As far as I know English is harder to learn for Chinese people due
> > to the
> > >>> huge language differences. I wouldn't vote against a Chinese
> > development
> > >>> list, but I wouldn't endorse it either, due to the above reasons.
> > >>>
> > >>> Wido
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My $0.02
> > >>>> Robert
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Generally a project uses a single language for development purposes
> > >> and while there is no technical barrier, splitting up the developer
> > >> community by language seems more deleterious than beneficial.
> > >>
> > >> This is further complicated by the fact that decisions have to be
> > made
> > >> on the mailing list - which then begs the question - where can
> > binding
> > >> decisions be made? In Apache projects that is supposed to happen on
> > >> the -dev list. However with two -dev lists that becomes a bit more
> > >> difficult.
> > >>
> > >> So my personal take on the matter:
> > >> We have a number of developers for whom English is not their native
> > >> tongue - but it remains a common tongue for us. I'd certainly have
> > no
> > >> objection to language-specific user mailing lists. But missing
> > entire
> > >> development conversations, strikes me as a bad thing.
> > >>
> > >> Thoughts, comments, flames?
> > >
> > > Agree. There should be no knowledge barrier between developers.
> > >
> > > And I am quite believe in English education in China. Again, don't
> > > worry about grammar or misspell etc.
> > >
> > > And localized user mailing is necessary I think.
> > >
> > > --Sheng
> > >>
> > >> --David
> >
> > Sheng, or Edison - feel free to create a ticket for INFRA at
> > issues.apache.org to create a Chinese language user mailing list.
> >
> > --David
RE: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Posted by Kimihiko Kitase <Ki...@citrix.co.jp>.
Adding cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org..
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimihiko Kitase [mailto:Kimihiko.Kitase@citrix.co.jp]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:38 AM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Hi, It seems someone from mentors needs to create this request via https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator.
I appreciate if someone from mentors can create the mailing list, cloudstack-users-ja@incubator.apache.org?
Same as Chinese mailing list, There are a lot of users in Japan have interest in CloudStack and they feel better to have a user mailing list for native Japanese speaking people.
Moderators:
Yasuhiro Arai: acid5xxx@gmail.com (CloudStack user group chair)
Masahiro Zembutsu: m.zembutsu@gmail.com (CloudStack user group core member)
Noriyuki Hamada: norihama99@gmail.com (CloudStack user group core member)
Mayumi Koshimizu: samemoon@gmail.com (CloudStack user group core member)
Daisuke Kitagawa: dolby.z@gmail.com (CloudStack user group core member)
Satoshi Shimazaki: satoshi.shimazaki@citrix.co.jp (Citrix)
Kimihiko Kitase: kimihiko.kitase@citrix.co.jp (Citrix)
Thanks
Kimi
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimihiko Kitase [mailto:Kimihiko.Kitase@citrix.co.jp]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:19 PM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
David, I have already created ticket. If I need to correct, please let me know...
-----Original Message-----
From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:02 AM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On 6/24/12 11:14 PM, Kimihiko Kitase wrote:
>>
>> Hi, We also want Japanese user mailing list like Chinese user mailing
>> list. How do we create?
>
>
> You'd need to create a ticket here:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA
>
> You can see the previous request for the Chinese mailing list here.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4944
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Best,
>
> Joe
>
>
I inappropriately advised Edison and others wrt the -cn mailing list.
Please reference this document:
http://www.apache.org/dev/reporting-issues.html#mail-new-lists
In short - this likely means that you need to ask one of our gracious mentors to acquire a new mailing list.
--David
RE: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Posted by Kimihiko Kitase <Ki...@citrix.co.jp>.
Adding cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org..
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimihiko Kitase [mailto:Kimihiko.Kitase@citrix.co.jp]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:38 AM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Hi, It seems someone from mentors needs to create this request via https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator.
I appreciate if someone from mentors can create the mailing list, cloudstack-users-ja@incubator.apache.org?
Same as Chinese mailing list, There are a lot of users in Japan have interest in CloudStack and they feel better to have a user mailing list for native Japanese speaking people.
Moderators:
Yasuhiro Arai: acid5xxx@gmail.com (CloudStack user group chair)
Masahiro Zembutsu: m.zembutsu@gmail.com (CloudStack user group core member)
Noriyuki Hamada: norihama99@gmail.com (CloudStack user group core member)
Mayumi Koshimizu: samemoon@gmail.com (CloudStack user group core member)
Daisuke Kitagawa: dolby.z@gmail.com (CloudStack user group core member)
Satoshi Shimazaki: satoshi.shimazaki@citrix.co.jp (Citrix)
Kimihiko Kitase: kimihiko.kitase@citrix.co.jp (Citrix)
Thanks
Kimi
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimihiko Kitase [mailto:Kimihiko.Kitase@citrix.co.jp]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:19 PM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
David, I have already created ticket. If I need to correct, please let me know...
-----Original Message-----
From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:02 AM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On 6/24/12 11:14 PM, Kimihiko Kitase wrote:
>>
>> Hi, We also want Japanese user mailing list like Chinese user mailing
>> list. How do we create?
>
>
> You'd need to create a ticket here:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA
>
> You can see the previous request for the Chinese mailing list here.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4944
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Best,
>
> Joe
>
>
I inappropriately advised Edison and others wrt the -cn mailing list.
Please reference this document:
http://www.apache.org/dev/reporting-issues.html#mail-new-lists
In short - this likely means that you need to ask one of our gracious mentors to acquire a new mailing list.
--David
RE: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Posted by Kimihiko Kitase <Ki...@citrix.co.jp>.
Hi, It seems someone from mentors needs to create this request via https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator.
I appreciate if someone from mentors can create the mailing list, cloudstack-users-ja@incubator.apache.org?
Same as Chinese mailing list, There are a lot of users in Japan have interest in CloudStack and they feel better to have a user mailing list for native Japanese speaking people.
Moderators:
Yasuhiro Arai: acid5xxx@gmail.com (CloudStack user group chair)
Masahiro Zembutsu: m.zembutsu@gmail.com (CloudStack user group core member)
Noriyuki Hamada: norihama99@gmail.com (CloudStack user group core member)
Mayumi Koshimizu: samemoon@gmail.com (CloudStack user group core member)
Daisuke Kitagawa: dolby.z@gmail.com (CloudStack user group core member)
Satoshi Shimazaki: satoshi.shimazaki@citrix.co.jp (Citrix)
Kimihiko Kitase: kimihiko.kitase@citrix.co.jp (Citrix)
Thanks
Kimi
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimihiko Kitase [mailto:Kimihiko.Kitase@citrix.co.jp]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:19 PM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
David, I have already created ticket. If I need to correct, please let me know...
-----Original Message-----
From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:02 AM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On 6/24/12 11:14 PM, Kimihiko Kitase wrote:
>>
>> Hi, We also want Japanese user mailing list like Chinese user mailing
>> list. How do we create?
>
>
> You'd need to create a ticket here:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA
>
> You can see the previous request for the Chinese mailing list here.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4944
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Best,
>
> Joe
>
>
I inappropriately advised Edison and others wrt the -cn mailing list.
Please reference this document:
http://www.apache.org/dev/reporting-issues.html#mail-new-lists
In short - this likely means that you need to ask one of our gracious mentors to acquire a new mailing list.
--David
RE: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Posted by Kimihiko Kitase <Ki...@citrix.co.jp>.
David, I have already created ticket. If I need to correct, please let me know...
-----Original Message-----
From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:02 AM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On 6/24/12 11:14 PM, Kimihiko Kitase wrote:
>>
>> Hi, We also want Japanese user mailing list like Chinese user mailing
>> list. How do we create?
>
>
> You'd need to create a ticket here:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA
>
> You can see the previous request for the Chinese mailing list here.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4944
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Best,
>
> Joe
>
>
I inappropriately advised Edison and others wrt the -cn mailing list.
Please reference this document:
http://www.apache.org/dev/reporting-issues.html#mail-new-lists
In short - this likely means that you need to ask one of our gracious mentors to acquire a new mailing list.
--David
Re: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On 6/25/12 12:02 PM, David Nalley wrote:
> I inappropriately advised Edison and others wrt the -cn mailing list.
>
> Please reference this document:
> http://www.apache.org/dev/reporting-issues.html#mail-new-lists
Thanks. Sorry for perpetuating the mis-information!
Best,
Joe
--
Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Twitter: @jzb
Re: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On 6/24/12 11:14 PM, Kimihiko Kitase wrote:
>>
>> Hi, We also want Japanese user mailing list like Chinese user mailing
>> list. How do we create?
>
>
> You'd need to create a ticket here:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA
>
> You can see the previous request for the Chinese mailing list here.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4944
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Best,
>
> Joe
>
>
I inappropriately advised Edison and others wrt the -cn mailing list.
Please reference this document:
http://www.apache.org/dev/reporting-issues.html#mail-new-lists
In short - this likely means that you need to ask one of our gracious
mentors to acquire a new mailing list.
--David
Re: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On 6/24/12 11:14 PM, Kimihiko Kitase wrote:
> Hi, We also want Japanese user mailing list like Chinese user mailing list. How do we create?
You'd need to create a ticket here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA
You can see the previous request for the Chinese mailing list here.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4944
Hope that helps!
Best,
Joe
> --Kimi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edison Su [mailto:Edison.su@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:42 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: CloudStack Chinese user mailing list
>
> Glad to announce that CloudStack Chinese user mailing list is created, just few minutes ago.
> To subscribe: please send email to cloudstack-users-cn-subscribe@incubator.apache.org.
> BTW, it's Mandarin only though, maybe a little bit Cantonese is OK...:)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:45 PM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Can we use other language here?
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Sheng Yang <sh...@yasker.org> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:29 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Wido den Hollander
>>>> <wi...@widodh.nl>
>> wrote:
>>>>> On 06/19/2012 02:50 PM, Robert Schweikert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/19/2012 05:43 AM, Lu Heng wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One very interesting question raised by my Chinese tech today,
>> can we
>>>>>>> use Chinese in the mailling list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Seems there is no language restriction about in the mailling
>> list,
>>>>>>> and all language should be equal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. As I read and touched these days in the mailling list, a lot
>> guy
>>>>>>> from crixi developing CS are in fact Chinese.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is needed then we should have a language specific list.
>> However,
>>>>>> from a development point of view that'll put a big dent into
>>>>>> collaboration.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd see a cloudstack-users-cn mailinglist earlier then a Chinese
>> developer
>>>>> list.
>>>>>
>>>>> My €0,02 says we should stick to English on the development list
>>>>> to
>> keep
>>>>> collaboration consistent. English isn't my native language either,
>> but it
>>>>> seems to be accepted as the language in software development?
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know English is harder to learn for Chinese people due
>> to the
>>>>> huge language differences. I wouldn't vote against a Chinese
>> development
>>>>> list, but I wouldn't endorse it either, due to the above reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wido
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My $0.02
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Generally a project uses a single language for development purposes
>>>> and while there is no technical barrier, splitting up the developer
>>>> community by language seems more deleterious than beneficial.
>>>>
>>>> This is further complicated by the fact that decisions have to be
>> made
>>>> on the mailing list - which then begs the question - where can
>> binding
>>>> decisions be made? In Apache projects that is supposed to happen on
>>>> the -dev list. However with two -dev lists that becomes a bit more
>>>> difficult.
>>>>
>>>> So my personal take on the matter:
>>>> We have a number of developers for whom English is not their native
>>>> tongue - but it remains a common tongue for us. I'd certainly have
>> no
>>>> objection to language-specific user mailing lists. But missing
>> entire
>>>> development conversations, strikes me as a bad thing.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts, comments, flames?
>>>
>>> Agree. There should be no knowledge barrier between developers.
>>>
>>> And I am quite believe in English education in China. Again, don't
>>> worry about grammar or misspell etc.
>>>
>>> And localized user mailing is necessary I think.
>>>
>>> --Sheng
>>>>
>>>> --David
>>
>> Sheng, or Edison - feel free to create a ticket for INFRA at
>> issues.apache.org to create a Chinese language user mailing list.
>>
>> --David
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