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Posted to user@roller.apache.org by Sean Montgomery <pa...@mac.com> on 2006/04/21 05:11:26 UTC
Using Unicode in entry title?
Greetings,
I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're using
today ;-)
I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
blog entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor
to enter a Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry
screen I'll see the correct character show up in the entry listing
(to the right of the Edit Entry screen under Recent Entries) but all
I get is a '?' when I view the blog.
If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title then
I see those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
correct single (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The
correct character also shows up in the RSS feed when viewed via
Safari. The trouble comes when I try to view the new entry via the
front page of the JRoller website - it displays "胖" explicitly.
Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
feedvalidator.org at my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged the
"&#x80d6;" and gave a warning that the title should not contain
HTML and that I shouldn't be surprised if some viewers strip the
characters or leave them there - like I saw at JRoller.
I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing
explicit Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source (using
Safari's View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like
mine, contains charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
input Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web-
based Roller interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a
configuration issue? Or do I need to use an alternative method of
posting entries that uses the Blogger or MetaWeblog APIs?
I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
about this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
谢谢!
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Sean Montgomery <pa...@mac.com>.
Howdy again,
I realize that there's nothing worse than a neophyte asking trivial
questions that a quick perusal of the docs would answer, sorry about
that!
I'm wondering if the problem I'm seeing with entering Chinese
characters into my JRoller blog might be database character encoding
issue. A quick look around the JRoller site and a bit of Googling
didn't turn up much about what database JRoller is currently using.
On the off chance that the JRoller folks read this list: what kind
of charset encoding are you using?
On Apr 20, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Sean Montgomery wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
> www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're
> using today ;-)
>
> ... blah blah blah...
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Sean Montgomery <pa...@mac.com>.
Whoops, make that "... which is U+80D6 in Unicode"
On Apr 24, 2006, at 10:33 PM, Sean Montgomery wrote:
> Simple example: "fat" in Chinese is "胖“, which is U+ in
> Unicode. It's approximately pronounced "pahng" in Mandarin. So I
> enable the ITABC system, type "pang", press the space bar and
> several glyphs show up in a little box near the cursor. Then I
> just select
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Sean Montgomery <pa...@mac.com>.
I use the ITABC ("Intelligent ABC", I think) Simplified Chinese input
method editor that comes with OS X. The ITABC system lets you use
Latin characters to type in the Pinyin (phonetic) representation of a
Chinese glyph - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin
Simple example: "fat" in Chinese is "胖“, which is U+ in Unicode.
It's approximately pronounced "pahng" in Mandarin. So I enable the
ITABC system, type "pang", press the space bar and several glyphs
show up in a little box near the cursor. Then I just select the one
I want. ITABC can do more than that, but that's the basic idea.
I like ITABC since I can just type in what I hear, using the Latin
keyboard. Some people find that they can type more quickly using
other IMEs - the WuBi method for example, which is based on the
strokes in a Chinese glyph, is supposed to be very fast.
There are similar IMEs in WIndows XP - I'd bet Linux has them, too.
On Apr 24, 2006, at 9:57 PM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
>
> I saw your blog a little while ago Sean and thought things were
> looking
> go for you. Thanks for the confirmation!
>
> How did you enter the Chinese characters? Using the software you
> mentioned or cut and paste?
>
> Would be glad to have you take up residence at cheblogs.com if that
> meets your needs.
>
>
> Brian
>
>
> On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 21:19 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
>> I just created a blog and posted a quick entry on your site, Brian.
>> I entered Chinese characters in the blog title, blog subtitle, blog
>> entry title and the blog entry proper. Everything showed up exactly
>> as I typed it, no question marks:
>>
>> http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/pangmao
>>
>> The RSS feed looked fine and validated successfully at http://
>> feedvalidator.org/ and everything looked fine on the Recent Weblog
>> Entries page. Very nice!
>>
>> Pity about JRoller, though. According the the JRoller blog at
>> http://
>> www.jroller.com/page/jroller they've got a JIRA at http://
>> jira.javalobby.org, but there's nothing at that URL, so I guess I
>> won't be reporting this issue...
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry for the delay Sean.
>>>
>>> I was out of town. The site is public and free (not for gambling,
>>> porno, or hate sites of course) - so just register for an account
>>> and
>>> you are there!
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 19:40 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
>>>> Hello again Brian,
>>>>
>>>> My apologies for the duplicate responses earlier today - my mail
>>>> server hiccuped.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a test login for your site that I could try?
>>>>
>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if my problems are due to OS X and/or
>>>> Safari. I'd be curious to see what OS's and browsers people are
>>>> using to enter Chinese and other glyphs that take two or more bytes
>>>> to encode in UTF-8.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How about trying your blog with us over at CheBlogs.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we have the unicode features of roller tuned very well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is an example to consider:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/xglhc
>>>>>
>>>>> Although, this seems like a plug, I am really interested in your
>>>>> feedback, because one of the critical goals for our site is that
>>>>> it be
>>>>> internationally friendly. Roller is a tremendous help is this
>>>>> goal in
>>>>> my view.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:11 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
>>>>>> www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> today ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
>>>>>> blog entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method
>>>>>> editor
>>>>>> to enter a Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry
>>>>>> screen I'll see the correct character show up in the entry
>>>>>> listing
>>>>>> (to the right of the Edit Entry screen under Recent Entries) but
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> I get is a '?' when I view the blog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> I see those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do
>>>>>> see the
>>>>>> correct single (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The
>>>>>> correct character also shows up in the RSS feed when viewed via
>>>>>> Safari. The trouble comes when I try to view the new entry
>>>>>> via the
>>>>>> front page of the JRoller website - it displays "胖"
>>>>>> explicitly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
>>>>>> feedvalidator.org at my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> "&#x80d6;" and gave a warning that the title should not
>>>>>> contain
>>>>>> HTML and that I shouldn't be surprised if some viewers strip the
>>>>>> characters or leave them there - like I saw at JRoller.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles
>>>>>> containing
>>>>>> explicit Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source
>>>>>> (using
>>>>>> Safari's View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like
>>>>>> mine, contains charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
>>>>>> input Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing
>>>>>> web-
>>>>>> based Roller interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a
>>>>>> configuration issue? Or do I need to use an alternative
>>>>>> method of
>>>>>> posting entries that uses the Blogger or MetaWeblog APIs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
>>>>>> about this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 谢谢!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Brian Blakeley <we...@labourunions.com>.
I saw your blog a little while ago Sean and thought things were looking
go for you. Thanks for the confirmation!
How did you enter the Chinese characters? Using the software you
mentioned or cut and paste?
Would be glad to have you take up residence at cheblogs.com if that
meets your needs.
Brian
On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 21:19 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
> I just created a blog and posted a quick entry on your site, Brian.
> I entered Chinese characters in the blog title, blog subtitle, blog
> entry title and the blog entry proper. Everything showed up exactly
> as I typed it, no question marks:
>
> http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/pangmao
>
> The RSS feed looked fine and validated successfully at http://
> feedvalidator.org/ and everything looked fine on the Recent Weblog
> Entries page. Very nice!
>
> Pity about JRoller, though. According the the JRoller blog at http://
> www.jroller.com/page/jroller they've got a JIRA at http://
> jira.javalobby.org, but there's nothing at that URL, so I guess I
> won't be reporting this issue...
>
> On Apr 23, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
>
> > Sorry for the delay Sean.
> >
> > I was out of town. The site is public and free (not for gambling,
> > porno, or hate sites of course) - so just register for an account and
> > you are there!
> >
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 19:40 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
> >> Hello again Brian,
> >>
> >> My apologies for the duplicate responses earlier today - my mail
> >> server hiccuped.
> >>
> >> Do you have a test login for your site that I could try?
> >>
> >> I'm beginning to wonder if my problems are due to OS X and/or
> >> Safari. I'd be curious to see what OS's and browsers people are
> >> using to enter Chinese and other glyphs that take two or more bytes
> >> to encode in UTF-8.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Sean
> >>
> >> On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> How about trying your blog with us over at CheBlogs.com/
> >>>
> >>> I think we have the unicode features of roller tuned very well.
> >>>
> >>> Here is an example to consider:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/xglhc
> >>>
> >>> Although, this seems like a plug, I am really interested in your
> >>> feedback, because one of the critical goals for our site is that
> >>> it be
> >>> internationally friendly. Roller is a tremendous help is this
> >>> goal in
> >>> my view.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:11 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
> >>>> Greetings,
> >>>>
> >>>> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
> >>>> www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're
> >>>> using
> >>>> today ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
> >>>> blog entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor
> >>>> to enter a Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry
> >>>> screen I'll see the correct character show up in the entry listing
> >>>> (to the right of the Edit Entry screen under Recent Entries) but
> >>>> all
> >>>> I get is a '?' when I view the blog.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title
> >>>> then
> >>>> I see those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
> >>>> correct single (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The
> >>>> correct character also shows up in the RSS feed when viewed via
> >>>> Safari. The trouble comes when I try to view the new entry via the
> >>>> front page of the JRoller website - it displays "胖"
> >>>> explicitly.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
> >>>> feedvalidator.org at my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged
> >>>> the
> >>>> "&#x80d6;" and gave a warning that the title should not contain
> >>>> HTML and that I shouldn't be surprised if some viewers strip the
> >>>> characters or leave them there - like I saw at JRoller.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing
> >>>> explicit Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source
> >>>> (using
> >>>> Safari's View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like
> >>>> mine, contains charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
> >>>>
> >>>> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
> >>>> input Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web-
> >>>> based Roller interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a
> >>>> configuration issue? Or do I need to use an alternative method of
> >>>> posting entries that uses the Blogger or MetaWeblog APIs?
> >>>>
> >>>> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
> >>>> about this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
> >>>>
> >>>> 谢谢!
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Sean Montgomery <pa...@mac.com>.
I just created a blog and posted a quick entry on your site, Brian.
I entered Chinese characters in the blog title, blog subtitle, blog
entry title and the blog entry proper. Everything showed up exactly
as I typed it, no question marks:
http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/pangmao
The RSS feed looked fine and validated successfully at http://
feedvalidator.org/ and everything looked fine on the Recent Weblog
Entries page. Very nice!
Pity about JRoller, though. According the the JRoller blog at http://
www.jroller.com/page/jroller they've got a JIRA at http://
jira.javalobby.org, but there's nothing at that URL, so I guess I
won't be reporting this issue...
On Apr 23, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
> Sorry for the delay Sean.
>
> I was out of town. The site is public and free (not for gambling,
> porno, or hate sites of course) - so just register for an account and
> you are there!
>
>
> Brian
>
> On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 19:40 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
>> Hello again Brian,
>>
>> My apologies for the duplicate responses earlier today - my mail
>> server hiccuped.
>>
>> Do you have a test login for your site that I could try?
>>
>> I'm beginning to wonder if my problems are due to OS X and/or
>> Safari. I'd be curious to see what OS's and browsers people are
>> using to enter Chinese and other glyphs that take two or more bytes
>> to encode in UTF-8.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How about trying your blog with us over at CheBlogs.com/
>>>
>>> I think we have the unicode features of roller tuned very well.
>>>
>>> Here is an example to consider:
>>>
>>> http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/xglhc
>>>
>>> Although, this seems like a plug, I am really interested in your
>>> feedback, because one of the critical goals for our site is that
>>> it be
>>> internationally friendly. Roller is a tremendous help is this
>>> goal in
>>> my view.
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:11 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
>>>> www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're
>>>> using
>>>> today ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
>>>> blog entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor
>>>> to enter a Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry
>>>> screen I'll see the correct character show up in the entry listing
>>>> (to the right of the Edit Entry screen under Recent Entries) but
>>>> all
>>>> I get is a '?' when I view the blog.
>>>>
>>>> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title
>>>> then
>>>> I see those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
>>>> correct single (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The
>>>> correct character also shows up in the RSS feed when viewed via
>>>> Safari. The trouble comes when I try to view the new entry via the
>>>> front page of the JRoller website - it displays "胖"
>>>> explicitly.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
>>>> feedvalidator.org at my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged
>>>> the
>>>> "&#x80d6;" and gave a warning that the title should not contain
>>>> HTML and that I shouldn't be surprised if some viewers strip the
>>>> characters or leave them there - like I saw at JRoller.
>>>>
>>>> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing
>>>> explicit Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source
>>>> (using
>>>> Safari's View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like
>>>> mine, contains charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
>>>>
>>>> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
>>>> input Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web-
>>>> based Roller interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a
>>>> configuration issue? Or do I need to use an alternative method of
>>>> posting entries that uses the Blogger or MetaWeblog APIs?
>>>>
>>>> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
>>>> about this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
>>>>
>>>> 谢谢!
>>>
>>
>
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Sean Montgomery <pa...@mac.com>.
No problem Brian!
Thanks for the assistance - I'll create a test account and see what
happens. If Russian, German and Tibetan all work then Chinese should
too.
- Sean
On Apr 23, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
> Sorry for the delay Sean.
>
> I was out of town. The site is public and free (not for gambling,
> porno, or hate sites of course) - so just register for an account and
> you are there!
>
>
> Brian
>
> On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 19:40 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
>> Hello again Brian,
>>
>> My apologies for the duplicate responses earlier today - my mail
>> server hiccuped.
>>
>> Do you have a test login for your site that I could try?
>>
>> I'm beginning to wonder if my problems are due to OS X and/or
>> Safari. I'd be curious to see what OS's and browsers people are
>> using to enter Chinese and other glyphs that take two or more bytes
>> to encode in UTF-8.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How about trying your blog with us over at CheBlogs.com/
>>>
>>> I think we have the unicode features of roller tuned very well.
>>>
>>> Here is an example to consider:
>>>
>>> http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/xglhc
>>>
>>> Although, this seems like a plug, I am really interested in your
>>> feedback, because one of the critical goals for our site is that
>>> it be
>>> internationally friendly. Roller is a tremendous help is this
>>> goal in
>>> my view.
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:11 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
>>>> www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're
>>>> using
>>>> today ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
>>>> blog entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor
>>>> to enter a Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry
>>>> screen I'll see the correct character show up in the entry listing
>>>> (to the right of the Edit Entry screen under Recent Entries) but
>>>> all
>>>> I get is a '?' when I view the blog.
>>>>
>>>> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title
>>>> then
>>>> I see those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
>>>> correct single (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The
>>>> correct character also shows up in the RSS feed when viewed via
>>>> Safari. The trouble comes when I try to view the new entry via the
>>>> front page of the JRoller website - it displays "胖"
>>>> explicitly.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
>>>> feedvalidator.org at my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged
>>>> the
>>>> "&#x80d6;" and gave a warning that the title should not contain
>>>> HTML and that I shouldn't be surprised if some viewers strip the
>>>> characters or leave them there - like I saw at JRoller.
>>>>
>>>> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing
>>>> explicit Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source
>>>> (using
>>>> Safari's View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like
>>>> mine, contains charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
>>>>
>>>> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
>>>> input Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web-
>>>> based Roller interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a
>>>> configuration issue? Or do I need to use an alternative method of
>>>> posting entries that uses the Blogger or MetaWeblog APIs?
>>>>
>>>> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
>>>> about this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
>>>>
>>>> 谢谢!
>>>
>>
>
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Brian Blakeley <we...@labourunions.com>.
Sorry for the delay Sean.
I was out of town. The site is public and free (not for gambling,
porno, or hate sites of course) - so just register for an account and
you are there!
Brian
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 19:40 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
> Hello again Brian,
>
> My apologies for the duplicate responses earlier today - my mail
> server hiccuped.
>
> Do you have a test login for your site that I could try?
>
> I'm beginning to wonder if my problems are due to OS X and/or
> Safari. I'd be curious to see what OS's and browsers people are
> using to enter Chinese and other glyphs that take two or more bytes
> to encode in UTF-8.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Sean
>
> On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
>
> >
> > How about trying your blog with us over at CheBlogs.com/
> >
> > I think we have the unicode features of roller tuned very well.
> >
> > Here is an example to consider:
> >
> > http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/xglhc
> >
> > Although, this seems like a plug, I am really interested in your
> > feedback, because one of the critical goals for our site is that it be
> > internationally friendly. Roller is a tremendous help is this goal in
> > my view.
> >
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:11 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
> >> www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're using
> >> today ;-)
> >>
> >> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
> >> blog entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor
> >> to enter a Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry
> >> screen I'll see the correct character show up in the entry listing
> >> (to the right of the Edit Entry screen under Recent Entries) but all
> >> I get is a '?' when I view the blog.
> >>
> >> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title then
> >> I see those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
> >> correct single (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The
> >> correct character also shows up in the RSS feed when viewed via
> >> Safari. The trouble comes when I try to view the new entry via the
> >> front page of the JRoller website - it displays "胖"
> >> explicitly.
> >>
> >> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
> >> feedvalidator.org at my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged the
> >> "&#x80d6;" and gave a warning that the title should not contain
> >> HTML and that I shouldn't be surprised if some viewers strip the
> >> characters or leave them there - like I saw at JRoller.
> >>
> >> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing
> >> explicit Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source (using
> >> Safari's View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like
> >> mine, contains charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
> >>
> >> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
> >> input Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web-
> >> based Roller interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a
> >> configuration issue? Or do I need to use an alternative method of
> >> posting entries that uses the Blogger or MetaWeblog APIs?
> >>
> >> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
> >> about this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
> >>
> >> 谢谢!
> >
>
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Sean Montgomery <pa...@mac.com>.
Hello again Brian,
My apologies for the duplicate responses earlier today - my mail
server hiccuped.
Do you have a test login for your site that I could try?
I'm beginning to wonder if my problems are due to OS X and/or
Safari. I'd be curious to see what OS's and browsers people are
using to enter Chinese and other glyphs that take two or more bytes
to encode in UTF-8.
Best wishes,
Sean
On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
>
> How about trying your blog with us over at CheBlogs.com/
>
> I think we have the unicode features of roller tuned very well.
>
> Here is an example to consider:
>
> http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/xglhc
>
> Although, this seems like a plug, I am really interested in your
> feedback, because one of the critical goals for our site is that it be
> internationally friendly. Roller is a tremendous help is this goal in
> my view.
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:11 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
>> www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're using
>> today ;-)
>>
>> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
>> blog entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor
>> to enter a Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry
>> screen I'll see the correct character show up in the entry listing
>> (to the right of the Edit Entry screen under Recent Entries) but all
>> I get is a '?' when I view the blog.
>>
>> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title then
>> I see those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
>> correct single (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The
>> correct character also shows up in the RSS feed when viewed via
>> Safari. The trouble comes when I try to view the new entry via the
>> front page of the JRoller website - it displays "胖"
>> explicitly.
>>
>> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
>> feedvalidator.org at my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged the
>> "&#x80d6;" and gave a warning that the title should not contain
>> HTML and that I shouldn't be surprised if some viewers strip the
>> characters or leave them there - like I saw at JRoller.
>>
>> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing
>> explicit Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source (using
>> Safari's View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like
>> mine, contains charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
>>
>> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
>> input Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web-
>> based Roller interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a
>> configuration issue? Or do I need to use an alternative method of
>> posting entries that uses the Blogger or MetaWeblog APIs?
>>
>> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
>> about this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
>>
>> 谢谢!
>
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Brian Blakeley <we...@labourunions.com>.
Hi Sean,
I think I just pasted the text straight into the Roller entry screen.
It seems to me I did a post with some Russian, German and Tibetan by
simply cutting and pasting from a translation site on the web.
I have no ideal how the Chinese text was entered, I only know that
several blogs or the past few years have been in Chinese.
The only problematic one I have seen is a Norwegian site (I think it is
Norwegian anyway) where I have to select a different character set in my
browser to get proper text. But, I think I have read somewhere that
Norwegian presents problems for Unicode.
Hope this helps. I am on my way back out the door now, but I will try a
Chinese entry later if I can grab the time.
Brian
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 09:56 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> Thanks for the info. I took a look at the example you gave and ran
> its RSS feed through a validator and it seemed pretty happy. :-)
>
> I'm currently entering my blog titles and entries via the JRoller web
> interface. I've tried the various input editors (the ones that work
> with Safari on OS X) and the only way I can enter Chinese characters
> is via HTML entity escapes. How do you avoid doing that, and manage
> to get the Unicode directly into the entries, etc?
>
> Sorry if I'm missing the obvious, I'm a rank beginner.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Sean
>
> On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
>
> >
> > How about trying your blog with us over at CheBlogs.com/
> >
> > I think we have the unicode features of roller tuned very well.
> >
> > Here is an example to consider:
> >
> > http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/xglhc
> >
> > Although, this seems like a plug, I am really interested in your
> > feedback, because one of the critical goals for our site is that it be
> > internationally friendly. Roller is a tremendous help is this goal in
> > my view.
> >
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:11 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
> >> www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're using
> >> today ;-)
> >>
> >> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
> >> blog entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor
> >> to enter a Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry
> >> screen I'll see the correct character show up in the entry listing
> >> (to the right of the Edit Entry screen under Recent Entries) but all
> >> I get is a '?' when I view the blog.
> >>
> >> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title then
> >> I see those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
> >> correct single (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The
> >> correct character also shows up in the RSS feed when viewed via
> >> Safari. The trouble comes when I try to view the new entry via the
> >> front page of the JRoller website - it displays "胖"
> >> explicitly.
> >>
> >> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
> >> feedvalidator.org at my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged the
> >> "&#x80d6;" and gave a warning that the title should not contain
> >> HTML and that I shouldn't be surprised if some viewers strip the
> >> characters or leave them there - like I saw at JRoller.
> >>
> >> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing
> >> explicit Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source (using
> >> Safari's View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like
> >> mine, contains charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
> >>
> >> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
> >> input Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web-
> >> based Roller interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a
> >> configuration issue? Or do I need to use an alternative method of
> >> posting entries that uses the Blogger or MetaWeblog APIs?
> >>
> >> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
> >> about this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
> >>
> >> 谢谢!
> >
>
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Sean Montgomery <pa...@mac.com>.
Hi Brian,
Thanks for the info. I took a look at the example you gave and ran
its RSS feed through a validator and it seemed pretty happy. :-)
I'm currently entering my blog titles and entries via the JRoller web
interface. I've tried the various input editors (the ones that work
with Safari on OS X) and the only way I can enter Chinese characters
is via HTML entity escapes. How do you avoid doing that, and manage
to get the Unicode directly into the entries, etc?
Sorry if I'm missing the obvious, I'm a rank beginner.
Thanks again,
Sean
On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
>
> How about trying your blog with us over at CheBlogs.com/
>
> I think we have the unicode features of roller tuned very well.
>
> Here is an example to consider:
>
> http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/xglhc
>
> Although, this seems like a plug, I am really interested in your
> feedback, because one of the critical goals for our site is that it be
> internationally friendly. Roller is a tremendous help is this goal in
> my view.
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:11 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
>> www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're using
>> today ;-)
>>
>> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
>> blog entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor
>> to enter a Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry
>> screen I'll see the correct character show up in the entry listing
>> (to the right of the Edit Entry screen under Recent Entries) but all
>> I get is a '?' when I view the blog.
>>
>> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title then
>> I see those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
>> correct single (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The
>> correct character also shows up in the RSS feed when viewed via
>> Safari. The trouble comes when I try to view the new entry via the
>> front page of the JRoller website - it displays "胖"
>> explicitly.
>>
>> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
>> feedvalidator.org at my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged the
>> "&#x80d6;" and gave a warning that the title should not contain
>> HTML and that I shouldn't be surprised if some viewers strip the
>> characters or leave them there - like I saw at JRoller.
>>
>> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing
>> explicit Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source (using
>> Safari's View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like
>> mine, contains charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
>>
>> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
>> input Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web-
>> based Roller interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a
>> configuration issue? Or do I need to use an alternative method of
>> posting entries that uses the Blogger or MetaWeblog APIs?
>>
>> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
>> about this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
>>
>> 谢谢!
>
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Sean Montgomery <pa...@mac.com>.
Hi Brian,
Thanks for the info. I took a look at the example you gave and ran
its RSS feed through a validator and it seemed pretty happy. :-)
I'm currently entering my blog titles and entries via the JRoller web
interface. I've tried the various input editors (the ones that work
with Safari on OS X) and the only way I can enter Chinese characters
is via HTML entity escapes. How do you avoid doing that, and manage
to get the Unicode directly into the entries, etc?
Sorry if I'm missing the obvious, I'm a rank beginner.
Thanks again,
Sean
On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Brian Blakeley wrote:
>
> How about trying your blog with us over at CheBlogs.com/
>
> I think we have the unicode features of roller tuned very well.
>
> Here is an example to consider:
>
> http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/xglhc
>
> Although, this seems like a plug, I am really interested in your
> feedback, because one of the critical goals for our site is that it be
> internationally friendly. Roller is a tremendous help is this goal in
> my view.
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:11 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
>> www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're using
>> today ;-)
>>
>> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
>> blog entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor
>> to enter a Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry
>> screen I'll see the correct character show up in the entry listing
>> (to the right of the Edit Entry screen under Recent Entries) but all
>> I get is a '?' when I view the blog.
>>
>> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title then
>> I see those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
>> correct single (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The
>> correct character also shows up in the RSS feed when viewed via
>> Safari. The trouble comes when I try to view the new entry via the
>> front page of the JRoller website - it displays "胖"
>> explicitly.
>>
>> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
>> feedvalidator.org at my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged the
>> "&#x80d6;" and gave a warning that the title should not contain
>> HTML and that I shouldn't be surprised if some viewers strip the
>> characters or leave them there - like I saw at JRoller.
>>
>> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing
>> explicit Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source (using
>> Safari's View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like
>> mine, contains charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
>>
>> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
>> input Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web-
>> based Roller interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a
>> configuration issue? Or do I need to use an alternative method of
>> posting entries that uses the Blogger or MetaWeblog APIs?
>>
>> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
>> about this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
>>
>> 谢谢!
>
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Brian Blakeley <we...@labourunions.com>.
How about trying your blog with us over at CheBlogs.com/
I think we have the unicode features of roller tuned very well.
Here is an example to consider:
http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/xglhc
Although, this seems like a plug, I am really interested in your
feedback, because one of the critical goals for our site is that it be
internationally friendly. Roller is a tremendous help is this goal in
my view.
Brian
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:11 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
> www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're using
> today ;-)
>
> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
> blog entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor
> to enter a Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry
> screen I'll see the correct character show up in the entry listing
> (to the right of the Edit Entry screen under Recent Entries) but all
> I get is a '?' when I view the blog.
>
> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title then
> I see those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
> correct single (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The
> correct character also shows up in the RSS feed when viewed via
> Safari. The trouble comes when I try to view the new entry via the
> front page of the JRoller website - it displays "胖" explicitly.
>
> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
> feedvalidator.org at my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged the
> "&#x80d6;" and gave a warning that the title should not contain
> HTML and that I shouldn't be surprised if some viewers strip the
> characters or leave them there - like I saw at JRoller.
>
> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing
> explicit Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source (using
> Safari's View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like
> mine, contains charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
>
> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
> input Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web-
> based Roller interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a
> configuration issue? Or do I need to use an alternative method of
> posting entries that uses the Blogger or MetaWeblog APIs?
>
> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
> about this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
>
> 谢谢!
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Sean Montgomery <pa...@mac.com>.
Thanks Matt, I'll do that :-)
On Apr 21, 2006, at 12:25 AM, Matt Raible wrote:
> You could try a less customized version of Roller on my site.
>
> http://raibledesigns.com/page/test
>
> Username: test
> Password: roller
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Matt
>
> On 4/20/06, Bill Tribley <bi...@tribley.us> wrote:
>> Hi Sean,
>> It sounds like the jroller blog viewer is not properly set up to
>> handle true utf-8 encoding. When you put the character into HTML
>> then you are causing it to pass through jroller, your browser is
>> picking up on the utf-8, recognizing Chinese and displaying it, as
>> long as all the characters make it.
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:11:26 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
>>> www.jroller.com
>>> using, well, whatever version of Roller they're using today ;-)
>>>
>>> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
>>> blog
>>> entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor to
>>> enter a
>>> Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry screen
>>> I'll see the
>>> correct character show up in the entry listing (to the right of
>>> the Edit
>>> Entry screen under Recent Entries) but all I get is a '?' when I
>>> view the
>>> blog.
>>>
>>> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title
>>> then I see
>>> those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
>>> correct single
>>> (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The correct character
>>> also shows
>>> up in the RSS feed when viewed via Safari. The trouble comes
>>> when I try to
>>> view the new entry via the front page of the JRoller website - it
>>> displays
>>> "胖" explicitly.
>>>
>>> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
>>> feedvalidator.org at
>>> my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged the "&#x80d6;"
>>> and gave a
>>> warning that the title should not contain HTML and that I
>>> shouldn't be
>>> surprised if some viewers strip the characters or leave them
>>> there - like I
>>> saw at JRoller.
>>>
>>> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles
>>> containing explicit
>>> Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source (using Safari's
>>> View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like mine,
>>> contains
>>> charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
>>>
>>> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
>>> input
>>> Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web-
>>> based Roller
>>> interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a configuration
>>> issue? Or do I
>>> need to use an alternative method of posting entries that uses
>>> the Blogger or
>>> MetaWeblog APIs?
>>>
>>> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
>>> about
>>> this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
>>>
>>> ??!
>>
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Sean Montgomery <pa...@mac.com>.
Hi Matt,
Thanks for letting me try your site. Had some interesting results.
I use Apple's built-in Simplified Chinese input method ITABC, which
is what I normally use. The glyphs I've been entering take two bytes
in UTF-8, e.g. 胖 (U+80D6). For the most part it seems to work fine
for entering Chinese glyphs into various apps that expect Unicode
encoding of some sort. I've used it to enter Chinese text at
LiveJournal and Google, for example. The glyphs entered at
LiveJournal show up as UTF-8 chars in the HTML when I view the source
in Safari.
When I use the input method to enter Chinese glyphs at your Roller
site (or JRoller) the glyphs look fine as they're entered. They
still look fine after I press Post to Weblog and show up correctly in
the Recent Entries column on the right. The source of the page in
Safari is XHTML 1.0 Transitional with charset="utf-8" and the glyphs
show up fine, i.e. they're glyphs, not escape sequences.
Now if I click on the Entries link the new entry shows up with the
glyphs replaced by '?' chars.
I haven't tried this in any other browsers or on any other OS's -
perhaps it's a Safari issue?
On Apr 21, 2006, at 12:25 AM, Matt Raible wrote:
> You could try a less customized version of Roller on my site.
>
> http://raibledesigns.com/page/test
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Matt Raible <mr...@gmail.com>.
You could try a less customized version of Roller on my site.
http://raibledesigns.com/page/test
Username: test
Password: roller
Hope this helps,
Matt
On 4/20/06, Bill Tribley <bi...@tribley.us> wrote:
> Hi Sean,
> It sounds like the jroller blog viewer is not properly set up to handle true utf-8 encoding. When you put the character into HTML then you are causing it to pass through jroller, your browser is picking up on the utf-8, recognizing Chinese and displaying it, as long as all the characters make it.
> Bill
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:11:26 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at www.jroller.com
> > using, well, whatever version of Roller they're using today ;-)
> >
> > I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my blog
> > entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor to enter a
> > Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry screen I'll see the
> > correct character show up in the entry listing (to the right of the Edit
> > Entry screen under Recent Entries) but all I get is a '?' when I view the
> > blog.
> >
> > If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title then I see
> > those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the correct single
> > (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The correct character also shows
> > up in the RSS feed when viewed via Safari. The trouble comes when I try to
> > view the new entry via the front page of the JRoller website - it displays
> > "胖" explicitly.
> >
> > Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed feedvalidator.org at
> > my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged the "&#x80d6;" and gave a
> > warning that the title should not contain HTML and that I shouldn't be
> > surprised if some viewers strip the characters or leave them there - like I
> > saw at JRoller.
> >
> > I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing explicit
> > Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source (using Safari's
> > View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like mine, contains
> > charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
> >
> > So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to input
> > Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web- based Roller
> > interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a configuration issue? Or do I
> > need to use an alternative method of posting entries that uses the Blogger or
> > MetaWeblog APIs?
> >
> > I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki about
> > this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
> >
> > ??!
>
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Sean Montgomery <pa...@mac.com>.
Hi Bill,
Ok, so maybe I can blame JRoller ;-)
I'd still like to find a way to enter Unicode characters into the
title and body of an entry directly, though. From looking at the
source of other Roller blog pages and RSS feeds I can see that
they're getting UTF-8 encoding glyphs in there somehow... I'd really
rather not have to type HTML entity escapes by hand!
Unfortunately I'm a total newcomer to this, so there may be an
obvious way.
On a related note: Let's say I wanted to embed some code examples in
a blog entry or title, for example:
Enum <E extends Enum<E>>
The left & right angle brackets are HTML chars, so I'd have to escape
them. Doing it manually is a pain. If I want to put them in a title
then I get complaints from RSS validators... Is there any way to
embed HTML characters in a blog title that won't generate validation
warnings? I can live with JRoller not displaying things correctly ;-)
Thanks again,
Sean
On Apr 21, 2006, at 12:15 AM, Bill Tribley wrote:
> Hi Sean,
> It sounds like the jroller blog viewer is not properly set up to
> handle true utf-8 encoding. When you put the character into HTML
> then you are causing it to pass through jroller, your browser is
> picking up on the utf-8, recognizing Chinese and displaying it, as
> long as all the characters make it.
> Bill
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:11:26 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
>> www.jroller.com
>> using, well, whatever version of Roller they're using today ;-)
>>
>> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
>> blog
>> entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor to
>> enter a
>> Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry screen I'll
>> see the
>> correct character show up in the entry listing (to the right of
>> the Edit
>> Entry screen under Recent Entries) but all I get is a '?' when I
>> view the
>> blog.
>>
>> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title
>> then I see
>> those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
>> correct single
>> (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The correct character
>> also shows
>> up in the RSS feed when viewed via Safari. The trouble comes when
>> I try to
>> view the new entry via the front page of the JRoller website - it
>> displays
>> "胖" explicitly.
>>
>> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed
>> feedvalidator.org at
>> my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged the "&#x80d6;" and
>> gave a
>> warning that the title should not contain HTML and that I
>> shouldn't be
>> surprised if some viewers strip the characters or leave them there
>> - like I
>> saw at JRoller.
>>
>> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing
>> explicit
>> Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source (using Safari's
>> View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like mine,
>> contains
>> charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
>>
>> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to
>> input
>> Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web- based
>> Roller
>> interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a configuration
>> issue? Or do I
>> need to use an alternative method of posting entries that uses the
>> Blogger or
>> MetaWeblog APIs?
>>
>> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
>> about
>> this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
>>
>> ??!
Re: Using Unicode in entry title?
Posted by Bill Tribley <bi...@tribley.us>.
Hi Sean,
It sounds like the jroller blog viewer is not properly set up to handle true utf-8 encoding. When you put the character into HTML then you are causing it to pass through jroller, your browser is picking up on the utf-8, recognizing Chinese and displaying it, as long as all the characters make it.
Bill
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:11:26 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at www.jroller.com
> using, well, whatever version of Roller they're using today ;-)
>
> I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my blog
> entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor to enter a
> Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry screen I'll see the
> correct character show up in the entry listing (to the right of the Edit
> Entry screen under Recent Entries) but all I get is a '?' when I view the
> blog.
>
> If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title then I see
> those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the correct single
> (Chinese) character when I view the blog. The correct character also shows
> up in the RSS feed when viewed via Safari. The trouble comes when I try to
> view the new entry via the front page of the JRoller website - it displays
> "胖" explicitly.
>
> Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-) Instead I pointed feedvalidator.org at
> my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged the "&#x80d6;" and gave a
> warning that the title should not contain HTML and that I shouldn't be
> surprised if some viewers strip the characters or leave them there - like I
> saw at JRoller.
>
> I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing explicit
> Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source (using Safari's
> View:View Source command). Their RSS feed source, like mine, contains
> charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.
>
> So what am I doing wrong? It looks like there's no way for me to input
> Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web- based Roller
> interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a configuration issue? Or do I
> need to use an alternative method of posting entries that uses the Blogger or
> MetaWeblog APIs?
>
> I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki about
> this... Any suggestions on where to turn?
>
> ??!