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Posted to dev@distributedlog.apache.org by Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org> on 2017/01/04 08:50:40 UTC
Re: vote process for proposals?
Ping?
Xi, Jon, any updates about this? Do any of you want to drive this?
- Sijie
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Sijie Guo <si...@twitter.com.invalid>
wrote:
> Xi, Jon, are any of you interested in making a draft about about the
> proposal workflow?
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Jon Derrick <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I think it really worth having a voting proposal, as sometime I might
> lose
> > track of if a proposal is accepted or not and whether it is under
> > development.
> >
> > Beam's process looks promising. You can try to start with that.
> >
> > Another suggestion is it would be awesome if the DL jira queue can have
> new
> > type, called 'Proposal'. Then we can enforce the proposal workflow in the
> > jira.
> >
>
> I think it is possible to ask INFRA team to create a new jira type/workflow
> for us, if we can come up with more details. Can you tell us more about
> your thoughts?
>
> - Sijie
>
>
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:10 AM, Xi Liu <xi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Sijie. I feel it is good to have a voting process, so that it
> > > would be good to track if a proposal is accepted for developing or
> > > discarded due to any reasons. I will start with my proposal and see how
> > it
> > > is going with the community.
> > >
> > > - Xi
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Xi, thank you for raising this up. I don't think we have a formal
> > process
> > > > for track proposals. I think we can learn the proposals from other
> > apache
> > > > projects. For example, beam has very nice documentation on
> contribution
> > > > guide (http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/contribution-
> guide/
> > ).
> > > > We
> > > > probably can adopt it.
> > > >
> > > > I don't feel strong about the voting process. If it is easier for
> > making
> > > > conclusion on the proposal discussion, let's vote for any discussed
> > > > proposal.
> > > >
> > > > - Sijie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Xi Liu <xi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > It is great that we have a process to track/discuss proposals. but
> > the
> > > > > process is still a bit unclear to me. do we need a vote phase to
> > adopt
> > > > the
> > > > > proposals? and shall we document the process in wiki page?
> > > > >
> > > > > my basic understand about the process is:
> > > > >
> > > > > - create a proposal wiki page to describe the proposal
> > > > > - start the '[discussion]' email thread for the proposal
> > > > > - conversation will happen in the '[discussion]' email thread and
> the
> > > > wiki
> > > > > page will be refined
> > > > >
> > > > > I feel there will be a phase to decide whether this proposal will
> be
> > > > > accepted or discarded and update the state of the proposals. shall
> I
> > > vote
> > > > > DP-2?
> > > > >
> > > > > - Xi
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > - jderrick
> >
>
Re: vote process for proposals?
Posted by Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org>.
seems reasonable to me. do you want to update the wiki to reflect it?
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Xi Liu <xi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think there is not a lot of activities on proposals. A 'lazy approval'
> might be just good enough - a proposal with lazy approval is implicitly
> allowed/accepted unless a -1 vote is received. That's probably the best
> for now. what do you think?
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 12:50 AM, Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Ping?
> >
> > Xi, Jon, any updates about this? Do any of you want to drive this?
> >
> > - Sijie
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Sijie Guo <si...@twitter.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Xi, Jon, are any of you interested in making a draft about about the
> > > proposal workflow?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Jon Derrick <
> > jonathan.derrickk@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think it really worth having a voting proposal, as sometime I might
> > > lose
> > > > track of if a proposal is accepted or not and whether it is under
> > > > development.
> > > >
> > > > Beam's process looks promising. You can try to start with that.
> > > >
> > > > Another suggestion is it would be awesome if the DL jira queue can
> have
> > > new
> > > > type, called 'Proposal'. Then we can enforce the proposal workflow in
> > the
> > > > jira.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think it is possible to ask INFRA team to create a new jira
> > type/workflow
> > > for us, if we can come up with more details. Can you tell us more about
> > > your thoughts?
> > >
> > > - Sijie
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:10 AM, Xi Liu <xi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you Sijie. I feel it is good to have a voting process, so
> that
> > it
> > > > > would be good to track if a proposal is accepted for developing or
> > > > > discarded due to any reasons. I will start with my proposal and see
> > how
> > > > it
> > > > > is going with the community.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Xi
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Xi, thank you for raising this up. I don't think we have a formal
> > > > process
> > > > > > for track proposals. I think we can learn the proposals from
> other
> > > > apache
> > > > > > projects. For example, beam has very nice documentation on
> > > contribution
> > > > > > guide (http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/contribution-
> > > guide/
> > > > ).
> > > > > > We
> > > > > > probably can adopt it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't feel strong about the voting process. If it is easier for
> > > > making
> > > > > > conclusion on the proposal discussion, let's vote for any
> discussed
> > > > > > proposal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Sijie
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Xi Liu <xi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is great that we have a process to track/discuss proposals.
> > but
> > > > the
> > > > > > > process is still a bit unclear to me. do we need a vote phase
> to
> > > > adopt
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > proposals? and shall we document the process in wiki page?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > my basic understand about the process is:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - create a proposal wiki page to describe the proposal
> > > > > > > - start the '[discussion]' email thread for the proposal
> > > > > > > - conversation will happen in the '[discussion]' email thread
> and
> > > the
> > > > > > wiki
> > > > > > > page will be refined
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I feel there will be a phase to decide whether this proposal
> will
> > > be
> > > > > > > accepted or discarded and update the state of the proposals.
> > shall
> > > I
> > > > > vote
> > > > > > > DP-2?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Xi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > - jderrick
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: vote process for proposals?
Posted by Xi Liu <xi...@gmail.com>.
I think there is not a lot of activities on proposals. A 'lazy approval'
might be just good enough - a proposal with lazy approval is implicitly
allowed/accepted unless a -1 vote is received. That's probably the best
for now. what do you think?
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 12:50 AM, Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> Ping?
>
> Xi, Jon, any updates about this? Do any of you want to drive this?
>
> - Sijie
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Sijie Guo <si...@twitter.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Xi, Jon, are any of you interested in making a draft about about the
> > proposal workflow?
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Jon Derrick <
> jonathan.derrickk@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I think it really worth having a voting proposal, as sometime I might
> > lose
> > > track of if a proposal is accepted or not and whether it is under
> > > development.
> > >
> > > Beam's process looks promising. You can try to start with that.
> > >
> > > Another suggestion is it would be awesome if the DL jira queue can have
> > new
> > > type, called 'Proposal'. Then we can enforce the proposal workflow in
> the
> > > jira.
> > >
> >
> > I think it is possible to ask INFRA team to create a new jira
> type/workflow
> > for us, if we can come up with more details. Can you tell us more about
> > your thoughts?
> >
> > - Sijie
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:10 AM, Xi Liu <xi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you Sijie. I feel it is good to have a voting process, so that
> it
> > > > would be good to track if a proposal is accepted for developing or
> > > > discarded due to any reasons. I will start with my proposal and see
> how
> > > it
> > > > is going with the community.
> > > >
> > > > - Xi
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Xi, thank you for raising this up. I don't think we have a formal
> > > process
> > > > > for track proposals. I think we can learn the proposals from other
> > > apache
> > > > > projects. For example, beam has very nice documentation on
> > contribution
> > > > > guide (http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/contribution-
> > guide/
> > > ).
> > > > > We
> > > > > probably can adopt it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't feel strong about the voting process. If it is easier for
> > > making
> > > > > conclusion on the proposal discussion, let's vote for any discussed
> > > > > proposal.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Sijie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Xi Liu <xi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is great that we have a process to track/discuss proposals.
> but
> > > the
> > > > > > process is still a bit unclear to me. do we need a vote phase to
> > > adopt
> > > > > the
> > > > > > proposals? and shall we document the process in wiki page?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > my basic understand about the process is:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - create a proposal wiki page to describe the proposal
> > > > > > - start the '[discussion]' email thread for the proposal
> > > > > > - conversation will happen in the '[discussion]' email thread and
> > the
> > > > > wiki
> > > > > > page will be refined
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I feel there will be a phase to decide whether this proposal will
> > be
> > > > > > accepted or discarded and update the state of the proposals.
> shall
> > I
> > > > vote
> > > > > > DP-2?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Xi
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > - jderrick
> > >
> >
>