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Posted to dev@ibatis.apache.org by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> on 2006/07/25 22:53:49 UTC
Continuous Integration
Hi all,
I really want to set up CI for iBATIS. I'm planning on implementing it for:
- The website. Committed site changes will be automatically
deployed. This will improve consistency, simplify and reduce risk of
deployment (e.g. accidentally deleting docs folders, or forgetting to
change permissions).
- Nightly build. Although we should be releasing official versions
more often than we are, a quick-fix is to offer a nightly build. The code
in our SVN is stable by practice (we don't commit untested code that
breaks), so there's little risk to our users if they want to run a nightly
build.
So a couple of questions this raises are:
- What tools are available/preferred by Apache infrastructure? (Cruise
Control, Anthill, cron?)
- What can we do for our .NET friends? CC.NET hosted somewhere else?
FWIW: I'm cool with hosting a CI server offsite. CC.NET can build Java and
Ruby projects just as easily as .NET projects. But I don't think Apache has
any windows boxes.
Thoughts?
Cheers,
Clinton
Re: Continuous Integration
Posted by netsql <ce...@gmail.com>.
go ci!
cc!
Does the ibatis.net work w/ mono? so we can host on linux?
else something like http://www.dailyrazor.com/servers/windows_servers.php.
.V
Clinton Begin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I really want to set up CI for iBATIS. I'm planning on implementing it for:
>
> * The website. Committed site changes will be automatically
> deployed. This will improve consistency, simplify and reduce risk
> of deployment ( e.g. accidentally deleting docs folders, or
> forgetting to change permissions).
> * Nightly build. Although we should be releasing official versions
> more often than we are, a quick-fix is to offer a nightly build.
> The code in our SVN is stable by practice (we don't commit
> untested code that breaks), so there's little risk to our users if
> they want to run a nightly build.
>
> So a couple of questions this raises are:
>
> * What tools are available/preferred by Apache infrastructure?
> (Cruise Control, Anthill, cron?)
> * What can we do for our .NET friends? CC.NET <http://CC.NET>
> hosted somewhere else?
>
> FWIW: I'm cool with hosting a CI server offsite. CC.NET
> <http://CC.NET> can build Java and Ruby projects just as easily as .NET
> projects. But I don't think Apache has any windows boxes.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Cheers,
> Clinton
Re: Continuous Integration
Posted by Gilles Bayon <ib...@gmail.com>.
+1 +1
I realy like to have CI.NET
On 7/25/06, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I really want to set up CI for iBATIS. I'm planning on implementing it
> for:
>
> - The website. Committed site changes will be automatically
> deployed. This will improve consistency, simplify and reduce risk of
> deployment ( e.g. accidentally deleting docs folders, or forgetting
> to change permissions).
> - Nightly build. Although we should be releasing official versions
> more often than we are, a quick-fix is to offer a nightly build. The code
> in our SVN is stable by practice (we don't commit untested code that
> breaks), so there's little risk to our users if they want to run a nightly
> build.
>
> So a couple of questions this raises are:
>
> - What tools are available/preferred by Apache infrastructure?
> (Cruise Control, Anthill, cron?)
> - What can we do for our .NET friends? CC.NET <http://cc.net/>hosted somewhere else?
>
> FWIW: I'm cool with hosting a CI server offsite. CC.NET <http://cc.net/>can build Java and Ruby projects just as easily as .NET projects. But I
> don't think Apache has any windows boxes.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Clinton
>
--
Cheers,
Gilles
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Re: Continuous Integration
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Here's another link to the zone stuff, if we want to try requesting an
ibatis zone.
* http://apache.org/dev/solaris-zones.html
I could help out with the infrastructure stuff in about a month from now.
-Ted.
On 7/26/06, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 7/25/06, Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I really can offer a nightly build machine - but it sounds like Clinton has
> > some (probably better) ideas too. I'll defer to his judgement about that.
>
> One thing to keep in mind is that the machine will need to upload the
> builds, which means it needs access to a committer's credentials,
> which means it needs to be a secure location.
>
> A lot of ASF nightly builds are still being created in someone's
> basement on an always-on workstation.
>
> -Ted.
>
--
HTH, Ted.
* http://www.husted.com/struts/
Re: Continuous Integration
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
On 7/25/06, Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I really can offer a nightly build machine - but it sounds like Clinton has
> some (probably better) ideas too. I'll defer to his judgement about that.
One thing to keep in mind is that the machine will need to upload the
builds, which means it needs access to a committer's credentials,
which means it needs to be a secure location.
A lot of ASF nightly builds are still being created in someone's
basement on an always-on workstation.
-Ted.
Re: Re: Continuous Integration
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
I've got a server.
Clinton
On 7/26/06, Jerome Gagner <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've had very good luck with continuum, personally, but they've all
> been maven2 projects. I can ask around about a spare server if you
> want.
>
> On 7/25/06, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have a "professionally" hosted VPS service. Unfortunately it blows
> goat.
> >
> > FWIW: westhost.com is THE WORST web hosting service in the WORLD. I
> was
> > with Pair for 5 years. I don't believe there was even a single
> unplanned
> > outage, and even the planned outages were so few that I don't even
> recall
> > them.
> >
> > My westhost VPS has been down 3 or 4 times per month, without fail, both
> > unplanned and planned -- noticably.
> >
> > So...if I can stabalize my hosting service, I can run Cruise or Anthill
> on
> > it for CI.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Clinton
> >
> >
> > On 7/25/06, Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Sounds good.
> > >
> > > I really can offer a nightly build machine - but it sounds like
> Clinton
> > has some (probably better) ideas too. I'll defer to his judgement about
> > that.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff Butler
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/25/06, Ted Husted < husted@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We finally hired a system administator, and things are getting
> better.
> > > > But there is a lot to straighten out yet. Doing something like this
> > > > ourselves would be a good step in the interim.
> > > >
> > > > -Ted.
> > > >
> > > > On 7/25/06, Jeff Butler < jeffgbutler@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm...sounds like Apache isn't really set up to offer these kinds
> of
> > > > > services. Maybe offsite is a better choice after all. I could
> > volunteer a
> > > > > nightly build machine in my basement :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Butler
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: Re: Continuous Integration
Posted by Jerome Gagner <ph...@gmail.com>.
I've had very good luck with continuum, personally, but they've all
been maven2 projects. I can ask around about a spare server if you
want.
On 7/25/06, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a "professionally" hosted VPS service. Unfortunately it blows goat.
>
> FWIW: westhost.com is THE WORST web hosting service in the WORLD. I was
> with Pair for 5 years. I don't believe there was even a single unplanned
> outage, and even the planned outages were so few that I don't even recall
> them.
>
> My westhost VPS has been down 3 or 4 times per month, without fail, both
> unplanned and planned -- noticably.
>
> So...if I can stabalize my hosting service, I can run Cruise or Anthill on
> it for CI.
>
> Cheers,
> Clinton
>
>
> On 7/25/06, Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sounds good.
> >
> > I really can offer a nightly build machine - but it sounds like Clinton
> has some (probably better) ideas too. I'll defer to his judgement about
> that.
> >
> >
> > Jeff Butler
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/25/06, Ted Husted < husted@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > We finally hired a system administator, and things are getting better.
> > > But there is a lot to straighten out yet. Doing something like this
> > > ourselves would be a good step in the interim.
> > >
> > > -Ted.
> > >
> > > On 7/25/06, Jeff Butler < jeffgbutler@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm...sounds like Apache isn't really set up to offer these kinds of
> > > > services. Maybe offsite is a better choice after all. I could
> volunteer a
> > > > nightly build machine in my basement :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Butler
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Continuous Integration
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
I have a "professionally" hosted VPS service. Unfortunately it blows goat.
FWIW: westhost.com is THE WORST web hosting service in the WORLD. I was
with Pair for 5 years. I don't believe there was even a single unplanned
outage, and even the planned outages were so few that I don't even recall
them.
My westhost VPS has been down 3 or 4 times per month, without fail, both
unplanned and planned -- noticably.
So...if I can stabalize my hosting service, I can run Cruise or Anthill on
it for CI.
Cheers,
Clinton
On 7/25/06, Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds good.
>
> I really can offer a nightly build machine - but it sounds like Clinton
> has some (probably better) ideas too. I'll defer to his judgement about
> that.
>
> Jeff Butler
>
>
> On 7/25/06, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > We finally hired a system administator, and things are getting better.
> > But there is a lot to straighten out yet. Doing something like this
> > ourselves would be a good step in the interim.
> >
> > -Ted.
> >
> > On 7/25/06, Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hmmm...sounds like Apache isn't really set up to offer these kinds of
> > > services. Maybe offsite is a better choice after all. I could
> > volunteer a
> > > nightly build machine in my basement :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff Butler
> >
>
>
Re: Continuous Integration
Posted by Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com>.
Sounds good.
I really can offer a nightly build machine - but it sounds like Clinton has
some (probably better) ideas too. I'll defer to his judgement about that.
Jeff Butler
On 7/25/06, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> We finally hired a system administator, and things are getting better.
> But there is a lot to straighten out yet. Doing something like this
> ourselves would be a good step in the interim.
>
> -Ted.
>
> On 7/25/06, Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm...sounds like Apache isn't really set up to offer these kinds of
> > services. Maybe offsite is a better choice after all. I could
> volunteer a
> > nightly build machine in my basement :)
> >
> >
> > Jeff Butler
>
Re: Continuous Integration
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
We finally hired a system administator, and things are getting better.
But there is a lot to straighten out yet. Doing something like this
ourselves would be a good step in the interim.
-Ted.
On 7/25/06, Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hmmm...sounds like Apache isn't really set up to offer these kinds of
> services. Maybe offsite is a better choice after all. I could volunteer a
> nightly build machine in my basement :)
>
>
> Jeff Butler
Re: Continuous Integration
Posted by Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com>.
Hmmm...sounds like Apache isn't really set up to offer these kinds of
services. Maybe offsite is a better choice after all. I could volunteer a
nightly build machine in my basement :)
Jeff Butler
On 7/25/06, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 7/25/06, Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1 +1 Great ideas on both counts.
> >
> > Seems like someone intended to write a page of instructions, but never
> > finished it. See the last link on this page (it's dead):
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/
> >
> > Maybe Ted can share how it works with Struts? I think it would be good
> to
> > stay on Apache infrastructure if possible, but there may not be a good
> > solution for the .Net folks as you noted.
>
> There are some zones available on helios where people are trying to
> run tools like this, but with spotty results.
>
> * http://www.apache.org/dev/machines.html#helios
>
> James Mitchell, Sean Schofield, and Wendy Smoak have been trying to
> get Continuum going for Struts and MyFaces, but it's up one day and
> down the next.
>
> * http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsContinuum
>
> Right now, Struts is back to running the nightly builds ourselves and
> uploading from our own machines.
>
> -Ted.
>
Re: Continuous Integration
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
On 7/25/06, Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 +1 Great ideas on both counts.
>
> Seems like someone intended to write a page of instructions, but never
> finished it. See the last link on this page (it's dead):
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/
>
> Maybe Ted can share how it works with Struts? I think it would be good to
> stay on Apache infrastructure if possible, but there may not be a good
> solution for the .Net folks as you noted.
There are some zones available on helios where people are trying to
run tools like this, but with spotty results.
* http://www.apache.org/dev/machines.html#helios
James Mitchell, Sean Schofield, and Wendy Smoak have been trying to
get Continuum going for Struts and MyFaces, but it's up one day and
down the next.
* http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsContinuum
Right now, Struts is back to running the nightly builds ourselves and
uploading from our own machines.
-Ted.
Re: Continuous Integration
Posted by Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com>.
+1 +1 Great ideas on both counts.
Seems like someone intended to write a page of instructions, but never
finished it. See the last link on this page (it's dead):
http://www.apache.org/dev/
Maybe Ted can share how it works with Struts? I think it would be good to
stay on Apache infrastructure if possible, but there may not be a good
solution for the .Net folks as you noted.
Jeff Butler
On 7/25/06, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I really want to set up CI for iBATIS. I'm planning on implementing it
> for:
>
> - The website. Committed site changes will be automatically
> deployed. This will improve consistency, simplify and reduce risk of
> deployment ( e.g. accidentally deleting docs folders, or forgetting
> to change permissions).
> - Nightly build. Although we should be releasing official versions
> more often than we are, a quick-fix is to offer a nightly build. The code
> in our SVN is stable by practice (we don't commit untested code that
> breaks), so there's little risk to our users if they want to run a nightly
> build.
>
> So a couple of questions this raises are:
>
> - What tools are available/preferred by Apache infrastructure?
> (Cruise Control, Anthill, cron?)
> - What can we do for our .NET friends? CC.NET <http://cc.net/>hosted somewhere else?
>
> FWIW: I'm cool with hosting a CI server offsite. CC.NET <http://cc.net/>can build Java and Ruby projects just as easily as .NET projects. But I
> don't think Apache has any windows boxes.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Clinton
>