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Posted to users@flex.apache.org by Steve McLaughlin <St...@designwithflex.com> on 2013/03/19 00:10:41 UTC

Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Hi, I'm using Adobe Flash Builder 4.7 with apache flex 4.9.1 SDK, and the
text editor is extremely slower than Adobe Flash Builder 4.6.
It appears that some kind of background processing is happening, is it
checking all the import statements to see if they are used?  Is there an
option to turn this off?

For example, I comment out a line, and it takes 1-2 seconds for the cursor
to return.
I already have 'Build automatically' unchecked.

thanks,
steve

Re: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Posted by Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com>.
The bugs described by Marcus are really annoying.
There are also topic in the Adobe forum about them (and others), see [1]
and [2] for example.

[1] http://forums.adobe.com/message/4905392 (found 2 bugs in new Flash
Builder 4.7)
[2] http://forums.adobe.com/message/4689768 (Must restart FB frequently,
very slow, stops responding)


2013/3/20 Alexander Doroshko <al...@jetbrains.com>

> On 20.03.2013 10:02, Alexander Doroshko wrote:
>
>> On 20.03.2013 1:27, Marcus Fritze wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so I am really considering to use IntelliJ IDEA for developing.
>>>
>> For those who'd like to try IntelliJ IDEA here's the tutorial how to
>> import Flash Builder projects into IntelliJ [1]. Although the tutorial is
>> based on samples from Adobe Gaming SDK, the migration process is absolutely
>> the same for all kinds of Flex or pure ActionScript projects.
>> For any questions please write to the forum [2], issue tracker [3] or
>> just ping me directly.
>>
>>
> Note that IntelliJ IDEA 12.1 EAP is recommended. It already has release
> quality and will be officially released next week.
>
> http://confluence.jetbrains.**com/display/IDEADEV/IDEA+12.1+**EAP<http://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/IDEADEV/IDEA+12.1+EAP>
>

Re: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Posted by Alexander Doroshko <al...@jetbrains.com>.
On 20.03.2013 10:02, Alexander Doroshko wrote:
> On 20.03.2013 1:27, Marcus Fritze wrote:
>> Ok, so I am really considering to use IntelliJ IDEA for developing.
> For those who'd like to try IntelliJ IDEA here's the tutorial how to 
> import Flash Builder projects into IntelliJ [1]. Although the tutorial 
> is based on samples from Adobe Gaming SDK, the migration process is 
> absolutely the same for all kinds of Flex or pure ActionScript projects.
> For any questions please write to the forum [2], issue tracker [3] or 
> just ping me directly.
>

Note that IntelliJ IDEA 12.1 EAP is recommended. It already has release 
quality and will be officially released next week.

http://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/IDEADEV/IDEA+12.1+EAP

Re: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Posted by Alexander Doroshko <al...@jetbrains.com>.
On 20.03.2013 1:27, Marcus Fritze wrote:
> Ok, so I am really considering to use IntelliJ IDEA for developing.
For those who'd like to try IntelliJ IDEA here's the tutorial how to 
import Flash Builder projects into IntelliJ [1]. Although the tutorial 
is based on samples from Adobe Gaming SDK, the migration process is 
absolutely the same for all kinds of Flex or pure ActionScript projects.
For any questions please write to the forum [2], issue tracker [3] or 
just ping me directly.

-- 
Alexander Doroshko
IntelliJ IDEA Flash Team Lead
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

[1] http://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/IntelliJIDEA/Adobe+Gaming+SDK
[2] http://devnet.jetbrains.net/community/idea/ideacommunity
[3] http://youtrack.jetbrains.net


Re: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

> Well, I think it's free if you are a PMC member - http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/buy.jsp

You just have to be a committer is my understanding. There are a few other companies that also support committers of open source projects with free software eg Microsoft offers MSDN subscriptions to committers.

Justin


Re: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Posted by Scott Rowe <Sc...@gfigroup.com>.
Well, I think it's free if you are a PMC member - http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/buy.jsp

The page says...
Please make sure that you meet the following criteria:

  *   You are the project lead or a committer
  *   You have been working on your open source project for a minimum of 3 months
  *   Your community is active. This means that you have recent activity in your newsgroups or forums
  *   You have an updated News section on your site
  *   You release updated builds on a regular basis

On Mar 20, 2013, at 5:19 AM, Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com>> wrote:

On 20/03/2013 00:57, Scott Rowe wrote:
IMO intelliJ is better than FB and is really good at web/js too
Unless I am wrong, you need the pay-for version of IntelliJ for AS development. And as I can't get Flex mobile apsp to deploy from Eclipse with plugin, onyl Flash Builder directly, I still have to buy Flash Builder :-/

And no, I don't think we will see much more work on Flash Builder from Adobe. It's not their focus at all.
You are more likely to see Brackets or something supporting it, as Adobe is basically rebuilding their developer tools from the ground up (again) rather than using a framework like Eclipse along with all that benefit.

Tom


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Re: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Posted by Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com>.
On 20/03/2013 00:57, Scott Rowe wrote:
> IMO intelliJ is better than FB and is really good at web/js too
Unless I am wrong, you need the pay-for version of IntelliJ for AS 
development. And as I can't get Flex mobile apsp to deploy from Eclipse 
with plugin, onyl Flash Builder directly, I still have to buy Flash 
Builder :-/

And no, I don't think we will see much more work on Flash Builder from 
Adobe. It's not their focus at all.
You are more likely to see Brackets or something supporting it, as Adobe 
is basically rebuilding their developer tools from the ground up (again) 
rather than using a framework like Eclipse along with all that benefit.

Tom

Re: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Posted by Scott Rowe <sc...@mac.com>.
IMO intelliJ is better than FB and is really good at web/js too. And they are very responsive to problems/questions as well. 

On Mar 19, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I am also using FB 4.7 and I really think the FlashBuilder could be better.
> I have a lot of projects and one of the web-projects is a little bit bigger (the compiled swf is 8 MB).
> It takes up to 40 Seconds for compiling and uses up to 4 GB of RAM. (it's good to change the eclipse.ini ;-) )
> 
> And in FB4.7 I have some annoying bugs:
> - it shows me that the import XXXX is not used locally, but the import IS used locally
> - it shows me that the resource xxxx does not exist, but the file actually exists and 
>  is found when I clicked the class a second time
> 
> Will there be a next version of FB or even a bug-fix of the current issues in FB? I am 
> wondering why FB has this still issues. I know Adobe dropped the development of 
> the Flex SDK, but I thought the FB is still used for the new Adobe game development 
> strategy, right? Ok, so I am really considering to use IntelliJ IDEA for developing. 
> 
> What is the majority here on the list using for development? I thought FB (as eclipse-plugin)
> is the best choice, because I can code other files (php, HTML, Java....) of my project in the same IDE.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marcus
> 
> Am 19.03.2013 um 11:05 schrieb João Fernandes <jo...@gmail.com>:
> 
>> you could always disable design view and it will speed things up or
>> eventually move to intelliJ (just kidding).
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 March 2013 09:10, Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I found Builder 4.7 to be half as fast and use twice as much RAM under the
>>> 1.7 JVM as 1.6, so just went back to that.
>>> 
>>> WinXP 32bit.
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18/03/2013 23:10, Steve McLaughlin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, I'm using Adobe Flash Builder 4.7 with apache flex 4.9.1 SDK, and the
>>>> text editor is extremely slower than Adobe Flash Builder 4.6.
>>>> It appears that some kind of background processing is happening, is it
>>>> checking all the import statements to see if they are used?  Is there an
>>>> option to turn this off?
>>>> 
>>>> For example, I comment out a line, and it takes 1-2 seconds for the cursor
>>>> to return.
>>>> I already have 'Build automatically' unchecked.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks,
>>>> steve
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> João Fernandes
> 

Re: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Posted by Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>.
I am also using FB 4.7 and I really think the FlashBuilder could be better.
I have a lot of projects and one of the web-projects is a little bit bigger (the compiled swf is 8 MB).
It takes up to 40 Seconds for compiling and uses up to 4 GB of RAM. (it's good to change the eclipse.ini ;-) )

And in FB4.7 I have some annoying bugs:
- it shows me that the import XXXX is not used locally, but the import IS used locally
- it shows me that the resource xxxx does not exist, but the file actually exists and 
  is found when I clicked the class a second time

Will there be a next version of FB or even a bug-fix of the current issues in FB? I am 
wondering why FB has this still issues. I know Adobe dropped the development of 
the Flex SDK, but I thought the FB is still used for the new Adobe game development 
strategy, right? Ok, so I am really considering to use IntelliJ IDEA for developing. 

What is the majority here on the list using for development? I thought FB (as eclipse-plugin)
is the best choice, because I can code other files (php, HTML, Java....) of my project in the same IDE.

Thanks

Marcus

Am 19.03.2013 um 11:05 schrieb João Fernandes <jo...@gmail.com>:

> you could always disable design view and it will speed things up or
> eventually move to intelliJ (just kidding).
> 
> 
> On 19 March 2013 09:10, Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com> wrote:
> 
>> I found Builder 4.7 to be half as fast and use twice as much RAM under the
>> 1.7 JVM as 1.6, so just went back to that.
>> 
>> WinXP 32bit.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>> On 18/03/2013 23:10, Steve McLaughlin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, I'm using Adobe Flash Builder 4.7 with apache flex 4.9.1 SDK, and the
>>> text editor is extremely slower than Adobe Flash Builder 4.6.
>>> It appears that some kind of background processing is happening, is it
>>> checking all the import statements to see if they are used?  Is there an
>>> option to turn this off?
>>> 
>>> For example, I comment out a line, and it takes 1-2 seconds for the cursor
>>> to return.
>>> I already have 'Build automatically' unchecked.
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> steve
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ______________________________**______________________________**
>>> __________
>>> This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.
>>> For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com
>>> ______________________________**______________________________**
>>> __________
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> João Fernandes


Re: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Posted by João Fernandes <jo...@gmail.com>.
you could always disable design view and it will speed things up or
eventually move to intelliJ (just kidding).


On 19 March 2013 09:10, Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com> wrote:

> I found Builder 4.7 to be half as fast and use twice as much RAM under the
> 1.7 JVM as 1.6, so just went back to that.
>
> WinXP 32bit.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On 18/03/2013 23:10, Steve McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> Hi, I'm using Adobe Flash Builder 4.7 with apache flex 4.9.1 SDK, and the
>> text editor is extremely slower than Adobe Flash Builder 4.6.
>> It appears that some kind of background processing is happening, is it
>> checking all the import statements to see if they are used?  Is there an
>> option to turn this off?
>>
>> For example, I comment out a line, and it takes 1-2 seconds for the cursor
>> to return.
>> I already have 'Build automatically' unchecked.
>>
>> thanks,
>> steve
>>
>>
>> ______________________________**______________________________**
>> __________
>> This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.
>> For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com
>> ______________________________**______________________________**
>> __________
>>
>
>


-- 

João Fernandes

Re: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Posted by Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com>.
I found Builder 4.7 to be half as fast and use twice as much RAM under 
the 1.7 JVM as 1.6, so just went back to that.

WinXP 32bit.

Tom

On 18/03/2013 23:10, Steve McLaughlin wrote:
> Hi, I'm using Adobe Flash Builder 4.7 with apache flex 4.9.1 SDK, and the
> text editor is extremely slower than Adobe Flash Builder 4.6.
> It appears that some kind of background processing is happening, is it
> checking all the import statements to see if they are used?  Is there an
> option to turn this off?
>
> For example, I comment out a line, and it takes 1-2 seconds for the cursor
> to return.
> I already have 'Build automatically' unchecked.
>
> thanks,
> steve
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.
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Re: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Posted by Thiago Maia <a0...@a00s.com>.
Hi

    I having the same issue, with eclipse Juno, I already tried to disable  
a lot of things but still became slow after a while, some times in 10  
minutes of use, others in a hour, then I have to close and open again  
eclipse. Other times just restarting the computer to fix.
    I also using tomcat, not sure if affect. If I move to java view, start  
to became fast without need to close eclipse.

    thanks

Thiago Maia

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:00:10 -0300, Greg Huddleston  
<gh...@reachips.com> wrote:

> I am seeing similar behavior... (win 7 lots of speed, memory and disk  
> space on my development machine).  So its not just you (or what I  
> thought until now, just me).  //GH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uclasteve@gmail.com [mailto:uclasteve@gmail.com] On Behalf Of  
> Steve McLaughlin
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:11 PM
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder  
> 4.5
>
> Hi, I'm using Adobe Flash Builder 4.7 with apache flex 4.9.1 SDK, and  
> the text editor is extremely slower than Adobe Flash Builder 4.6.
> It appears that some kind of background processing is happening, is it  
> checking all the import statements to see if they are used?  Is there an  
> option to turn this off?
>
> For example, I comment out a line, and it takes 1-2 seconds for the  
> cursor to return.
> I already have 'Build automatically' unchecked.
>
> thanks,
> steve


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RE: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Posted by Greg Huddleston <gh...@reachips.com>.
I am seeing similar behavior... (win 7 lots of speed, memory and disk space on my development machine).  So its not just you (or what I thought until now, just me).  //GH

-----Original Message-----
From: uclasteve@gmail.com [mailto:uclasteve@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Steve McLaughlin
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:11 PM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Flash builder 4.7 editor seems a lot slower than Flash Builder 4.5

Hi, I'm using Adobe Flash Builder 4.7 with apache flex 4.9.1 SDK, and the text editor is extremely slower than Adobe Flash Builder 4.6.
It appears that some kind of background processing is happening, is it checking all the import statements to see if they are used?  Is there an option to turn this off?

For example, I comment out a line, and it takes 1-2 seconds for the cursor to return.
I already have 'Build automatically' unchecked.

thanks,
steve