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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by "Chappell, Simon P" <Si...@landsend.com> on 2003/01/21 15:31:06 UTC
[OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will be obvious to experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th degree and they will all be locked down so that you can't change anything. You can't even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined, you'd better like it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of productivity.
Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?
I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of my tinkering on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the company, but you wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I have introduced to the company's IS environment four new tools that I evaluated by tinkering with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and Cygwin. The funny thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are going to be part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.
Simon
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:dhfs@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
>To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
>Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
>
>
>Hi all,
> I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
> Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
>everybody to adopt my
>recomendations.
>My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
>order is order.
> I think his concern about this task is to improve
>productivity. So, what is more productive?
> Following our discussion, does someone have experience
>writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
>this kind of task?
>
>Best regards,
> Daniel.
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
Posted by keithBacon <ke...@yahoo.com>.
A manager I worked with said he standardised everything so work could be
de-skilled & cheap staff used.Then the fun part was finding the experts who can
be more productive if they deviate from the standard procedures. THis was a was
non IT manager but the same applies for IT I think.
I saw a report that showed that support of large windows apps was more
expensive than anything else, this causes the movement to standardize. But it
really applies to junior developers & users of apps.
I worked at a place where every dev. PC was different, the staff were mostly
beginners & making all PC's the same was beneficial. But we had the rule if
your PC was non-standard you got bottom priority support, it was your choice.
We were lenient with people we felt were learning fast so we shouldn't stifle
their creativity.
--- "Chappell, Simon P" <Si...@landsend.com> wrote:
> Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will be obvious to
> experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is good.
> We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th degree and they will
> all be locked down so that you can't change anything. You can't even change
> your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined, you'd better like it because
> you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of productivity.
>
> Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?
>
> I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of my tinkering
> on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the company, but you
> wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I have introduced
> to the company's IS environment four new tools that I evaluated by tinkering
> with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
> Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and Cygwin. The funny
> thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are going to be part
> of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.
>
> Simon
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:dhfs@yahoo.com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
> >To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> >Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
> >
> >
> >Hi all,
> > I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
> > Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
> >everybody to adopt my
> >recomendations.
> >My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
> >order is order.
> > I think his concern about this task is to improve
> >productivity. So, what is more productive?
> > Following our discussion, does someone have experience
> >writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
> >this kind of task?
> >
> >Best regards,
> > Daniel.
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
Posted by Andrew Hill <an...@gridnode.com>.
So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the company supply
them?
-----Original Message-----
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:Simon.Chappell@landsend.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will be obvious to
experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is
good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th degree and
they will all be locked down so that you can't change anything. You can't
even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined, you'd better like
it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
productivity.
Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?
I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of my tinkering
on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the company, but you
wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I have introduced
to the company's IS environment four new tools that I evaluated by tinkering
with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and Cygwin. The funny
thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are going to be
part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.
Simon
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:dhfs@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
>To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
>Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
>
>
>Hi all,
> I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
> Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
>everybody to adopt my
>recomendations.
>My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
>order is order.
> I think his concern about this task is to improve
>productivity. So, what is more productive?
> Following our discussion, does someone have experience
>writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
>this kind of task?
>
>Best regards,
> Daniel.
>
>
>
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