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Posted to phoenix-dev@avalon.apache.org by Andrei Ivanov <my...@surfeu.fi> on 2002/06/11 23:55:00 UTC
How to add new blocks (jars) to existing phoenix application (sar)
Hi,
suppose I have Phoenix application in sar file. Suppose someone else can
write new block for my application (and add it by modifying assembly.xml and
config.xml)
The question is: how this new block (extra jar) can be included into
existing application (if not in sar, where new block can be placed under
SAR-INF or under phoenix-lib, latter imho is not good)?
Andrei
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Re: Installer? Re: How to add new blocks (jars) to existing phoenix application (sar)
Posted by Peter Royal <pr...@apache.org>.
On Wednesday 12 June 2002 02:30 am, Andrei Ivanov wrote:
> > road at least. Its something that would be useful over here (for now our
> > installer will add the blocks and modify files as needed).
>
> What installer your referring?
InstallAnywhere. The new v5 release will allow easy modification of text and
xml documents inside of a jar.
-pete
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Installer? Re: How to add new blocks (jars) to existing phoenix application (sar)
Posted by Andrei Ivanov <my...@surfeu.fi>.
Peter,
> road at least. Its something that would be useful over here (for now our
> installer will add the blocks and modify files as needed).
What installer your referring?
Andrei
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Re: How to add new blocks (jars) to existing phoenix application (sar)
Posted by Peter Royal <pr...@apache.org>.
On Tuesday 11 June 2002 06:14 pm, Stephen McConnell wrote:
> > If I want to augment the running .sar without messing with it?
> > IE: any proposals?
>
> Ohh ... hot blocks!
> Not available in the current Phoenix version - but very desirable.
> Someone was talking/working on that recently - could be a good idea to
> check the Phoenix mail archive. I can't remember who it was but I'm
> sure it was sometime in the last 4-6 weeks.
I may end up implementing it in the future, but thats a month or two down the
road at least. Its something that would be useful over here (for now our
installer will add the blocks and modify files as needed).
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Re: How to add new blocks (jars) to existing phoenix application (sar)
Posted by Andrei Ivanov <my...@surfeu.fi>.
Hi and thanks for response.
> >>> would normally be added to the SAR-INF/lib directory and your
application redeployed
In this case I have to teach a customer how to build sar... Requires a lot
of documentation...
What are the options of adding new block (in jar) file to already deployed
Phoenix application.
I see the following choices:
1. add it to phoenix/lib - this will not always work
2. look for some location where this jar can be found (e.g. inside SAR-INF
etc).
Other ideas?
> p.s. There is nothing to stop you putting in place a block that does
> active loading of pluggable components.
Can not say anything before I've tried this, but as I see it, this way new
components will not be phoenix blocks any more and it will not be possible
to manage them via assembly.xml and config.xml.
Andrei
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From: "Stephen McConnell" <mc...@osm.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: How to add new blocks (jars) to existing phoenix application
(sar)
>
>
> Stephen McConnell wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Stephen McConnell wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Andrei Ivanov wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> suppose I have Phoenix application in sar file. Suppose someone
> >>>> else can
> >>>> write new block for my application (and add it by modifying
> >>>> assembly.xml and
> >>>> config.xml)
> >>>> The question is: how this new block (extra jar) can be included into
> >>>> existing application (if not in sar, where new block can be placed
> >>>> under
> >>>> SAR-INF or under phoenix-lib, latter imho is not good)?
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrei
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> The new block (preumably packaged as a jar file) would normally be
> >>> added to the SAR-INF/lib directory and your application redeployed
> >>> as a new .sar file containing the additional .jar file.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Which is not really plug 'n pray...
> >>
> >> If I want to augment the running .sar without messing with it?
> >> IE: any proposals?
> >
> >
> >
> > Ohh ... hot blocks!
> > Not available in the current Phoenix version - but very desirable.
> > Someone was talking/working on that recently - could be a good idea to
> > check the Phoenix mail archive. I can't remember who it was but I'm
> > sure it was sometime in the last 4-6 weeks.
> >
> > Cheers, Steve.
>
>
> p.s. There is nothing to stop you putting in place a block that does
> active loading of pluggable components.
>
> SJM
>
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Re: How to add new blocks (jars) to existing phoenix application
(sar)
Posted by Stephen McConnell <mc...@osm.net>.
Stephen McConnell wrote:
>
>
> Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Stephen McConnell wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrei Ivanov wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> suppose I have Phoenix application in sar file. Suppose someone
>>>> else can
>>>> write new block for my application (and add it by modifying
>>>> assembly.xml and
>>>> config.xml)
>>>> The question is: how this new block (extra jar) can be included into
>>>> existing application (if not in sar, where new block can be placed
>>>> under
>>>> SAR-INF or under phoenix-lib, latter imho is not good)?
>>>>
>>>> Andrei
>>>>
>>>
>>> The new block (preumably packaged as a jar file) would normally be
>>> added to the SAR-INF/lib directory and your application redeployed
>>> as a new .sar file containing the additional .jar file.
>>
>>
>>
>> Which is not really plug 'n pray...
>>
>> If I want to augment the running .sar without messing with it?
>> IE: any proposals?
>
>
>
> Ohh ... hot blocks!
> Not available in the current Phoenix version - but very desirable.
> Someone was talking/working on that recently - could be a good idea to
> check the Phoenix mail archive. I can't remember who it was but I'm
> sure it was sometime in the last 4-6 weeks.
>
> Cheers, Steve.
p.s. There is nothing to stop you putting in place a block that does
active loading of pluggable components.
SJM
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Re: How to add new blocks (jars) to existing phoenix application
(sar)
Posted by Stephen McConnell <mc...@osm.net>.
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
>
> Stephen McConnell wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Andrei Ivanov wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> suppose I have Phoenix application in sar file. Suppose someone else
>>> can
>>> write new block for my application (and add it by modifying
>>> assembly.xml and
>>> config.xml)
>>> The question is: how this new block (extra jar) can be included into
>>> existing application (if not in sar, where new block can be placed
>>> under
>>> SAR-INF or under phoenix-lib, latter imho is not good)?
>>>
>>> Andrei
>>>
>>
>> The new block (preumably packaged as a jar file) would normally be
>> added to the SAR-INF/lib directory and your application redeployed as
>> a new .sar file containing the additional .jar file.
>
>
> Which is not really plug 'n pray...
>
> If I want to augment the running .sar without messing with it?
> IE: any proposals?
Ohh ... hot blocks!
Not available in the current Phoenix version - but very desirable.
Someone was talking/working on that recently - could be a good idea to
check the Phoenix mail archive. I can't remember who it was but I'm
sure it was sometime in the last 4-6 weeks.
Cheers, Steve.
>
>
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Re: How to add new blocks (jars) to existing phoenix application
(sar)
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Stephen McConnell wrote:
>
>
> Andrei Ivanov wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> suppose I have Phoenix application in sar file. Suppose someone else can
>> write new block for my application (and add it by modifying
>> assembly.xml and
>> config.xml)
>> The question is: how this new block (extra jar) can be included into
>> existing application (if not in sar, where new block can be placed under
>> SAR-INF or under phoenix-lib, latter imho is not good)?
>>
>> Andrei
>>
>
> The new block (preumably packaged as a jar file) would normally be added
> to the SAR-INF/lib directory and your application redeployed as a new
> .sar file containing the additional .jar file.
Which is not really plug 'n pray...
If I want to augment the running .sar without messing with it?
IE: any proposals?
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Re: How to add new blocks (jars) to existing phoenix application
(sar)
Posted by Stephen McConnell <mc...@osm.net>.
Andrei Ivanov wrote:
>Hi,
>suppose I have Phoenix application in sar file. Suppose someone else can
>write new block for my application (and add it by modifying assembly.xml and
>config.xml)
>The question is: how this new block (extra jar) can be included into
>existing application (if not in sar, where new block can be placed under
>SAR-INF or under phoenix-lib, latter imho is not good)?
>
>Andrei
>
The new block (preumably packaged as a jar file) would normally be added
to the SAR-INF/lib directory and your application redeployed as a new
.sar file containing the additional .jar file.
Steve.
>
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