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Re: svn commit: r931515 - /commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml

On 07/04/2010, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> Author: sebb
>  Date: Wed Apr  7 12:17:25 2010
>  New Revision: 931515
>
>  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
>  Log:
>  Initial version of generic mailing list page.
>  Not yet included in navigation links.
>

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Re: svn commit: r931515 - /commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 07/04/2010, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:42 PM, sebb AT ASF <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>  > On 07/04/2010, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>  >> Author: sebb
>  >>  Date: Wed Apr  7 12:17:25 2010
>  >>  New Revision: 931515
>  >>
>  >>  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
>  >>  Log:
>  >>  Initial version of generic mailing list page.
>  >>  Not yet included in navigation links.
>  >>
>  >
>  > Generated and uploaded to:
>  >
>  > http://people.apache.org/~sebb/commons/mailing-lists.html
>
>
> It should IMO be renamed to mail-lists.xml - so that it replaces the
>  maven generated one - rather than adding a second mailing list page.

OK; I just picked the name because it was descriptive.

But I see that you have updated commons-build to autogenerate the page
anyway; not sure that the page is needed anymore?

>
>  Niall
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Re: svn commit: r931515 - /commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml

Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:42 PM, sebb AT ASF <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 07/04/2010, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Author: sebb
>>  Date: Wed Apr  7 12:17:25 2010
>>  New Revision: 931515
>>
>>  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
>>  Log:
>>  Initial version of generic mailing list page.
>>  Not yet included in navigation links.
>>
>
> Generated and uploaded to:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~sebb/commons/mailing-lists.html

It should IMO be renamed to mail-lists.xml - so that it replaces the
maven generated one - rather than adding a second mailing list page.

Niall

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Re: svn commit: r931515 - /commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml

Posted by Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de>.
sebb wrote at Mittwoch, 7. April 2010 15:33:

> On 07/04/2010, Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> Hi Sebb,
>>
>>  sebb AT ASF wrote at Mittwoch, 7. April 2010 14:42:
>>
>>
>>  > On 07/04/2010, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>>  >> Author: sebb
>>  >>  Date: Wed Apr  7 12:17:25 2010
>>  >>  New Revision: 931515
>>  >>
>>  >>  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
>>  >>  Log:
>>  >>  Initial version of generic mailing list page.
>>  >>  Not yet included in navigation links.
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  > Generated and uploaded to:
>>  >
>>  > http://people.apache.org/~sebb/commons/mailing-lists.html
>>
>>
>> Can you add that the "commits" and "jira" lists are read-only for humans
>> and
>>  fed by backend systems only?
> 
> I thought I had made this clear - what needs to be changed?

* "[jira] - this is automatically added by JIRA messages (issues list)" to 
"[jira] - this is automatically added by JIRA messages (issues list - read 
only)"

* "This list is only for e-mails generated by JIRA, the issue tracking 
system used by Apache Commons. High traffic." to "This list is read-only and 
used for e-mails generated by JIRA, the issue tracking system used by Apache 
Commons. High traffic."

* similar wording for Commits List as above

It's simply to make it very explicit. Occasionally we see people post to one 
of those lists. Personally I am not even able to give a corrective answer, 
since I am using normally Gmane as interface to the lists.

>>  Additionally it would be nice to emphasis that
>>  the user's list should be used for questions in first place.
> 
> What do you suggest?

* "There is only one developer list, and one user list" to "There is only 
one user list, and one developer list"

Add a phrase after the examples like:

"The user's list is normally the appropriate list for all kind of questions, 
even if you try to contact the developers of a component. They are 
subscribed also."

- Jörg


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Re: svn commit: r931515 - /commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 07/04/2010, Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi Sebb,
>
>  sebb AT ASF wrote at Mittwoch, 7. April 2010 14:42:
>
>
>  > On 07/04/2010, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>  >> Author: sebb
>  >>  Date: Wed Apr  7 12:17:25 2010
>  >>  New Revision: 931515
>  >>
>  >>  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
>  >>  Log:
>  >>  Initial version of generic mailing list page.
>  >>  Not yet included in navigation links.
>  >>
>  >
>  > Generated and uploaded to:
>  >
>  > http://people.apache.org/~sebb/commons/mailing-lists.html
>
>
> Can you add that the "commits" and "jira" lists are read-only for humans and
>  fed by backend systems only?

I thought I had made this clear - what needs to be changed?

>  Additionally it would be nice to emphasis that
>  the user's list should be used for questions in first place.

What do you suggest?

>  Regards,
>  Jörg
>
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Re: svn commit: r931515 - /commons/proper/commons-site/trunk/src/site/xdoc/mailing-lists.xml

Posted by Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de>.
Hi Sebb,

sebb AT ASF wrote at Mittwoch, 7. April 2010 14:42:

> On 07/04/2010, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Author: sebb
>>  Date: Wed Apr  7 12:17:25 2010
>>  New Revision: 931515
>>
>>  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=931515&view=rev
>>  Log:
>>  Initial version of generic mailing list page.
>>  Not yet included in navigation links.
>>
> 
> Generated and uploaded to:
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~sebb/commons/mailing-lists.html

Can you add that the "commits" and "jira" lists are read-only for humans and 
fed by backend systems only? Additionally it would be nice to emphasis that 
the user's list should be used for questions in first place.

Regards,
Jörg


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