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Posted to dev@madlib.apache.org by Rahul Iyer <ri...@apache.org> on 2017/05/04 17:44:28 UTC
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation
Hi Roman,
Many thanks for your excellent mentorship!
Your #2 and #3 proposals sound good to me and I look forward to the
discussion on private@.
- Rahul
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> with the fifth (v1.11) release in the final stages of being cut,
> I think now would be a good time to officially start our graduation
> discussion. With my mentor hat on, I feel that the project is
> mature and self-reliant enough to qualify as a TLP.
>
> Process-wise graduation consists of drafting a board resolution,
> getting it approved by the IPMC and finally submitting it to the ASF
> board's consideration. At the very minimum your resolution will contain:
> 1. A name of the project (I assume that'll be MADlib)
> 2. A list of proposed PMC members
> 3. A proposed PMC chair
> A good example of a resolution can be found here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Graduation+Resolution
>
> In fact, Frank and I took the liberty to use that as the basis for our own:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/Graduation+Resolution
> Please read it carefully and let us know what do you think.
>
> On #2 my suggestion would be to have an opt-in system. Basically
> we will kick off the thread off on private@madlib asking current PPMC
> members if they are willing to continue on the PMC.
>
> On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mentor to setup a rotating chair
> policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to ignore it,
> but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for rotation every
> year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate once
> the year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person to
> actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in serving
> as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple candidates there
> will have to be a vote.
>
> Speaking of self-nomination -- the same thread that we're going to kick
> off as part of solving for #2 will ask for folks to self-nominate as an initial
> chair to be listed on the resolution.
>
> Unless somebody objects strongly to my #2 and #3 proposals I'm going
> to kick of this thread on private@.
>
> With that in mind, lets make the rest of the discussion on dev@ to be about
> collecting the datapoints to present to IPCM as part of us asking them to
> vote YES on our graduation. Lets collect all these data points in the same
> wiki page:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/Graduation+Resolution
> Or if you feel that a discussion may be needed -- just reply to this thread.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation
Posted by Greg Chase <gr...@gregchase.com>.
Is that the 5th release I see that just got posted?
Ya, time for MADlib to fly the incubator!
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Frank McQuillan <fm...@pivotal.io>
wrote:
> Thanks Roman.
>
> I agree that this project is in the correct state to qualify as a TLP,
> and would like to help move that forward.
>
> In addition to the
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/Graduation+Resolution
> that you mention, we also created a check list
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/ASF+Maturity+Evaluation
> which aims to describe where the project stands according the the Apache
> project maturity model.
>
> I would encourage members of the Apache MADlib community to take a look
> at the check list and comment on any of the items there.
>
> The project mgmt part of the wiki
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/Project+Management
> also gives a pretty good snapshot of the project as it stands today.
>
> Frank
>
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Rahul Iyer <ri...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Roman,
> >
> > Many thanks for your excellent mentorship!
> >
> > Your #2 and #3 proposals sound good to me and I look forward to the
> > discussion on private@.
> >
> > - Rahul
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > with the fifth (v1.11) release in the final stages of being cut,
> > > I think now would be a good time to officially start our graduation
> > > discussion. With my mentor hat on, I feel that the project is
> > > mature and self-reliant enough to qualify as a TLP.
> > >
> > > Process-wise graduation consists of drafting a board resolution,
> > > getting it approved by the IPMC and finally submitting it to the ASF
> > > board's consideration. At the very minimum your resolution will
> contain:
> > > 1. A name of the project (I assume that'll be MADlib)
> > > 2. A list of proposed PMC members
> > > 3. A proposed PMC chair
> > > A good example of a resolution can be found here:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/
> > Graduation+Resolution
> > >
> > > In fact, Frank and I took the liberty to use that as the basis for our
> > own:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/
> > Graduation+Resolution
> > > Please read it carefully and let us know what do you think.
> > >
> > > On #2 my suggestion would be to have an opt-in system. Basically
> > > we will kick off the thread off on private@madlib asking current PPMC
> > > members if they are willing to continue on the PMC.
> > >
> > > On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mentor to setup a rotating chair
> > > policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to ignore
> it,
> > > but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for rotation
> > every
> > > year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate once
> > > the year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person
> to
> > > actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in
> > serving
> > > as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple candidates
> > there
> > > will have to be a vote.
> > >
> > > Speaking of self-nomination -- the same thread that we're going to kick
> > > off as part of solving for #2 will ask for folks to self-nominate as an
> > initial
> > > chair to be listed on the resolution.
> > >
> > > Unless somebody objects strongly to my #2 and #3 proposals I'm going
> > > to kick of this thread on private@.
> > >
> > > With that in mind, lets make the rest of the discussion on dev@ to be
> > about
> > > collecting the datapoints to present to IPCM as part of us asking them
> to
> > > vote YES on our graduation. Lets collect all these data points in the
> > same
> > > wiki page:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/
> > Graduation+Resolution
> > > Or if you feel that a discussion may be needed -- just reply to this
> > thread.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Roman.
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation
Posted by Frank McQuillan <fm...@pivotal.io>.
Thanks Roman.
I agree that this project is in the correct state to qualify as a TLP,
and would like to help move that forward.
In addition to the
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/Graduation+Resolution
that you mention, we also created a check list
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/ASF+Maturity+Evaluation
which aims to describe where the project stands according the the Apache
project maturity model.
I would encourage members of the Apache MADlib community to take a look
at the check list and comment on any of the items there.
The project mgmt part of the wiki
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/Project+Management
also gives a pretty good snapshot of the project as it stands today.
Frank
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Rahul Iyer <ri...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Roman,
>
> Many thanks for your excellent mentorship!
>
> Your #2 and #3 proposals sound good to me and I look forward to the
> discussion on private@.
>
> - Rahul
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > with the fifth (v1.11) release in the final stages of being cut,
> > I think now would be a good time to officially start our graduation
> > discussion. With my mentor hat on, I feel that the project is
> > mature and self-reliant enough to qualify as a TLP.
> >
> > Process-wise graduation consists of drafting a board resolution,
> > getting it approved by the IPMC and finally submitting it to the ASF
> > board's consideration. At the very minimum your resolution will contain:
> > 1. A name of the project (I assume that'll be MADlib)
> > 2. A list of proposed PMC members
> > 3. A proposed PMC chair
> > A good example of a resolution can be found here:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/
> Graduation+Resolution
> >
> > In fact, Frank and I took the liberty to use that as the basis for our
> own:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/
> Graduation+Resolution
> > Please read it carefully and let us know what do you think.
> >
> > On #2 my suggestion would be to have an opt-in system. Basically
> > we will kick off the thread off on private@madlib asking current PPMC
> > members if they are willing to continue on the PMC.
> >
> > On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mentor to setup a rotating chair
> > policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to ignore it,
> > but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for rotation
> every
> > year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate once
> > the year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person to
> > actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in
> serving
> > as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple candidates
> there
> > will have to be a vote.
> >
> > Speaking of self-nomination -- the same thread that we're going to kick
> > off as part of solving for #2 will ask for folks to self-nominate as an
> initial
> > chair to be listed on the resolution.
> >
> > Unless somebody objects strongly to my #2 and #3 proposals I'm going
> > to kick of this thread on private@.
> >
> > With that in mind, lets make the rest of the discussion on dev@ to be
> about
> > collecting the datapoints to present to IPCM as part of us asking them to
> > vote YES on our graduation. Lets collect all these data points in the
> same
> > wiki page:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/
> Graduation+Resolution
> > Or if you feel that a discussion may be needed -- just reply to this
> thread.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Roman.
>