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Posted to dev@openwebbeans.apache.org by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> on 2009/01/24 14:56:38 UTC
how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
Hi!
I'd like to know how we should cope with features we implement in OpenWebBeans which are _not_ specified in JSR-299 but are quite handy to have.
1.) Do we like to have such 'additional features' at all?
I'd say yes, e.g. the injection of java primitives and wrappers for constructors and producers would be very valuable in praxis. Also a few optional configurations like to use a different name for 'beans.xml'
2.) If so, how do we document it?
My preference would be to add a page for each extension in src/site/apt/extensions
LieGrue,
strub
Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com>.
I have categorized the our issues in the jira.
/Gurkan
________________________________
From: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:22:16 PM
Subject: Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
btw we actually _have_ such an additional feature already ;)
.) java.util.Date, java.sql.Date, java.sql.Time, java.sql.Timestamp or java.util.Calendar must not only be written in a format java.text.DateFormat.getDateTimeInstance().parse() understands, but may also be written in xs:dateTime format.
I checked the PDR, this has still not found it's way into the spec...
LieGrue,
strub
--- Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com> schrieb am Sa, 24.1.2009:
> Von: Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com>
> Betreff: Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Datum: Samstag, 24. Januar 2009, 19:58
> Ok, Mark :) You would also create the jira tickets for
> features under the release version (M1or M2 ..M5) you
> think that will provide these functionalities.
>
> Thanks;
>
> /Gurkan
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:05:45 AM
> Subject: Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional'
> features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
>
> Gurkan, you are absolutely right that there is currently no
> need to force such features.
>
> But on the other hand, there will be the point when we will
> like to add one or the others of them. And since I'm a
> little forgetfully, I better write things down immediately
> ;)
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> --- Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com> schrieb
> am Sa, 24.1.2009:
>
> > Von: Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com>
> > Betreff: Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional'
> features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> > An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Datum: Samstag, 24. Januar 2009, 17:48
> > For me ,content is looking good Mark. But do we have
> to
> > put such a content before the implementation contains
> those
> > futures ?
> >
> > I think that firstly we have to order our priorities
> for
> > the jira tasks that are waiting to be solved.
> Currently,
> > there are two milstone versions, namely M1 and M2 in
> the
> > jira. I will add other milstone versions, M3,
> M4, M5 and
> > finally the 1.0.0 version. After that we may
> partitioned the
> > our issues over these versions. Before each
> milestone is
> > released, we can work on the issues it has.
> >
> > What do you think guys about the above process?
> >
> > * 5 milestone versions are enough before the 1.0.0
> version?
> > * If you think that we follow another path for our
> > releasing process, please give us an information about
> it.
> >
> > Thanks;
> >
> > /Gurkan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> > To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:47:09 AM
> > Subject: AW: how to cope with 'additional'
> features
> > of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> >
> > I'd like to add a site (+functionality behind)
> with the
> > following content:
> >
> > --------------
> > Extensions over the JSR-299 Specification
> >
> > This section contains a list of functionality in
> > OpenWebBeans
> > which is not covered by the official specification.
> >
> > OpenWebBeans is fully compatible with the JSR-299
> > standard if
> > the default configuration is being used.
> Nevertheless
> > some parts
> > of the behaviour may be changed and some
> functionality
> > is
> > additionally available.
> >
> > Please note that using the mentioned functionality
> can
> > cause
> > that your application may not be run on other
> WebBeans
> > implementations.
> >
> > OpenWebBeans may be configured that a WARNING
> message
> > will be logged
> > whenever any of this additional functionality is
> being
> > used.
> > --------------
> >
> > The configuration may be done with
> openwebbeans.properties
> > as explained below.
> >
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> >
> > --- Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> schrieb am
> Sa,
> > 24.1.2009:
> >
> > > Von: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> > > Betreff: how to cope with 'additional'
> > features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> > > An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > Datum: Samstag, 24. Januar 2009, 14:56
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I'd like to know how we should cope with
> features
> > we
> > > implement in OpenWebBeans which are _not_
> specified in
> > > JSR-299 but are quite handy to have.
> > >
> > > 1.) Do we like to have such 'additional
> > features'
> > > at all?
> > > I'd say yes, e.g. the injection of java
> primitives
> > and
> > > wrappers for constructors and producers would be
> very
> > > valuable in praxis. Also a few optional
> configurations
> > like
> > > to use a different name for 'beans.xml'
> > >
> > > 2.) If so, how do we document it?
> > > My preference would be to add a page for each
> > extension in
> > > src/site/apt/extensions
> > >
> > > LieGrue,
> > > strub
Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
btw we actually _have_ such an additional feature already ;)
.) java.util.Date, java.sql.Date, java.sql.Time, java.sql.Timestamp or java.util.Calendar must not only be written in a format java.text.DateFormat.getDateTimeInstance().parse() understands, but may also be written in xs:dateTime format.
I checked the PDR, this has still not found it's way into the spec...
LieGrue,
strub
--- Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com> schrieb am Sa, 24.1.2009:
> Von: Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com>
> Betreff: Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Datum: Samstag, 24. Januar 2009, 19:58
> Ok, Mark :) You would also create the jira tickets for
> features under the release version (M1or M2 ..M5) you
> think that will provide these functionalities.
>
> Thanks;
>
> /Gurkan
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:05:45 AM
> Subject: Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional'
> features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
>
> Gurkan, you are absolutely right that there is currently no
> need to force such features.
>
> But on the other hand, there will be the point when we will
> like to add one or the others of them. And since I'm a
> little forgetfully, I better write things down immediately
> ;)
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> --- Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com> schrieb
> am Sa, 24.1.2009:
>
> > Von: Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com>
> > Betreff: Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional'
> features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> > An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Datum: Samstag, 24. Januar 2009, 17:48
> > For me ,content is looking good Mark. But do we have
> to
> > put such a content before the implementation contains
> those
> > futures ?
> >
> > I think that firstly we have to order our priorities
> for
> > the jira tasks that are waiting to be solved.
> Currently,
> > there are two milstone versions, namely M1 and M2 in
> the
> > jira. I will add other milstone versions, M3,
> M4, M5 and
> > finally the 1.0.0 version. After that we may
> partitioned the
> > our issues over these versions. Before each
> milestone is
> > released, we can work on the issues it has.
> >
> > What do you think guys about the above process?
> >
> > * 5 milestone versions are enough before the 1.0.0
> version?
> > * If you think that we follow another path for our
> > releasing process, please give us an information about
> it.
> >
> > Thanks;
> >
> > /Gurkan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> > To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:47:09 AM
> > Subject: AW: how to cope with 'additional'
> features
> > of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> >
> > I'd like to add a site (+functionality behind)
> with the
> > following content:
> >
> > --------------
> > Extensions over the JSR-299 Specification
> >
> > This section contains a list of functionality in
> > OpenWebBeans
> > which is not covered by the official specification.
> >
> > OpenWebBeans is fully compatible with the JSR-299
> > standard if
> > the default configuration is being used.
> Nevertheless
> > some parts
> > of the behaviour may be changed and some
> functionality
> > is
> > additionally available.
> >
> > Please note that using the mentioned functionality
> can
> > cause
> > that your application may not be run on other
> WebBeans
> > implementations.
> >
> > OpenWebBeans may be configured that a WARNING
> message
> > will be logged
> > whenever any of this additional functionality is
> being
> > used.
> > --------------
> >
> > The configuration may be done with
> openwebbeans.properties
> > as explained below.
> >
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> >
> > --- Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> schrieb am
> Sa,
> > 24.1.2009:
> >
> > > Von: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> > > Betreff: how to cope with 'additional'
> > features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> > > An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > Datum: Samstag, 24. Januar 2009, 14:56
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I'd like to know how we should cope with
> features
> > we
> > > implement in OpenWebBeans which are _not_
> specified in
> > > JSR-299 but are quite handy to have.
> > >
> > > 1.) Do we like to have such 'additional
> > features'
> > > at all?
> > > I'd say yes, e.g. the injection of java
> primitives
> > and
> > > wrappers for constructors and producers would be
> very
> > > valuable in praxis. Also a few optional
> configurations
> > like
> > > to use a different name for 'beans.xml'
> > >
> > > 2.) If so, how do we document it?
> > > My preference would be to add a page for each
> > extension in
> > > src/site/apt/extensions
> > >
> > > LieGrue,
> > > strub
Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com>.
Ok, Mark :) You would also create the jira tickets for features under the release version (M1or M2 ..M5) you think that will provide these functionalities.
Thanks;
/Gurkan
________________________________
From: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:05:45 AM
Subject: Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
Gurkan, you are absolutely right that there is currently no need to force such features.
But on the other hand, there will be the point when we will like to add one or the others of them. And since I'm a little forgetfully, I better write things down immediately ;)
LieGrue,
strub
--- Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com> schrieb am Sa, 24.1.2009:
> Von: Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com>
> Betreff: Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Datum: Samstag, 24. Januar 2009, 17:48
> For me ,content is looking good Mark. But do we have to
> put such a content before the implementation contains those
> futures ?
>
> I think that firstly we have to order our priorities for
> the jira tasks that are waiting to be solved. Currently,
> there are two milstone versions, namely M1 and M2 in the
> jira. I will add other milstone versions, M3, M4, M5 and
> finally the 1.0.0 version. After that we may partitioned the
> our issues over these versions. Before each milestone is
> released, we can work on the issues it has.
>
> What do you think guys about the above process?
>
> * 5 milestone versions are enough before the 1.0.0 version?
> * If you think that we follow another path for our
> releasing process, please give us an information about it.
>
> Thanks;
>
> /Gurkan
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:47:09 AM
> Subject: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features
> of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
>
> I'd like to add a site (+functionality behind) with the
> following content:
>
> --------------
> Extensions over the JSR-299 Specification
>
> This section contains a list of functionality in
> OpenWebBeans
> which is not covered by the official specification.
>
> OpenWebBeans is fully compatible with the JSR-299
> standard if
> the default configuration is being used. Nevertheless
> some parts
> of the behaviour may be changed and some functionality
> is
> additionally available.
>
> Please note that using the mentioned functionality can
> cause
> that your application may not be run on other WebBeans
> implementations.
>
> OpenWebBeans may be configured that a WARNING message
> will be logged
> whenever any of this additional functionality is being
> used.
> --------------
>
> The configuration may be done with openwebbeans.properties
> as explained below.
>
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> --- Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> schrieb am Sa,
> 24.1.2009:
>
> > Von: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> > Betreff: how to cope with 'additional'
> features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> > An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Datum: Samstag, 24. Januar 2009, 14:56
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'd like to know how we should cope with features
> we
> > implement in OpenWebBeans which are _not_ specified in
> > JSR-299 but are quite handy to have.
> >
> > 1.) Do we like to have such 'additional
> features'
> > at all?
> > I'd say yes, e.g. the injection of java primitives
> and
> > wrappers for constructors and producers would be very
> > valuable in praxis. Also a few optional configurations
> like
> > to use a different name for 'beans.xml'
> >
> > 2.) If so, how do we document it?
> > My preference would be to add a page for each
> extension in
> > src/site/apt/extensions
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
Gurkan, you are absolutely right that there is currently no need to force such features.
But on the other hand, there will be the point when we will like to add one or the others of them. And since I'm a little forgetfully, I better write things down immediately ;)
LieGrue,
strub
--- Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com> schrieb am Sa, 24.1.2009:
> Von: Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com>
> Betreff: Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Datum: Samstag, 24. Januar 2009, 17:48
> For me ,content is looking good Mark. But do we have to
> put such a content before the implementation contains those
> futures ?
>
> I think that firstly we have to order our priorities for
> the jira tasks that are waiting to be solved. Currently,
> there are two milstone versions, namely M1 and M2 in the
> jira. I will add other milstone versions, M3, M4, M5 and
> finally the 1.0.0 version. After that we may partitioned the
> our issues over these versions. Before each milestone is
> released, we can work on the issues it has.
>
> What do you think guys about the above process?
>
> * 5 milestone versions are enough before the 1.0.0 version?
> * If you think that we follow another path for our
> releasing process, please give us an information about it.
>
> Thanks;
>
> /Gurkan
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:47:09 AM
> Subject: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features
> of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
>
> I'd like to add a site (+functionality behind) with the
> following content:
>
> --------------
> Extensions over the JSR-299 Specification
>
> This section contains a list of functionality in
> OpenWebBeans
> which is not covered by the official specification.
>
> OpenWebBeans is fully compatible with the JSR-299
> standard if
> the default configuration is being used. Nevertheless
> some parts
> of the behaviour may be changed and some functionality
> is
> additionally available.
>
> Please note that using the mentioned functionality can
> cause
> that your application may not be run on other WebBeans
> implementations.
>
> OpenWebBeans may be configured that a WARNING message
> will be logged
> whenever any of this additional functionality is being
> used.
> --------------
>
> The configuration may be done with openwebbeans.properties
> as explained below.
>
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> --- Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> schrieb am Sa,
> 24.1.2009:
>
> > Von: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> > Betreff: how to cope with 'additional'
> features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> > An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Datum: Samstag, 24. Januar 2009, 14:56
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'd like to know how we should cope with features
> we
> > implement in OpenWebBeans which are _not_ specified in
> > JSR-299 but are quite handy to have.
> >
> > 1.) Do we like to have such 'additional
> features'
> > at all?
> > I'd say yes, e.g. the injection of java primitives
> and
> > wrappers for constructors and producers would be very
> > valuable in praxis. Also a few optional configurations
> like
> > to use a different name for 'beans.xml'
> >
> > 2.) If so, how do we document it?
> > My preference would be to add a page for each
> extension in
> > src/site/apt/extensions
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
Re: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com>.
For me ,content is looking good Mark. But do we have to put such a content before the implementation contains those futures ?
I think that firstly we have to order our priorities for the jira tasks that are waiting to be solved. Currently, there are two milstone versions, namely M1 and M2 in the jira. I will add other milstone versions, M3, M4, M5 and finally the 1.0.0 version. After that we may partitioned the our issues over these versions. Before each milestone is released, we can work on the issues it has.
What do you think guys about the above process?
* 5 milestone versions are enough before the 1.0.0 version?
* If you think that we follow another path for our releasing process, please give us an information about it.
Thanks;
/Gurkan
________________________________
From: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:47:09 AM
Subject: AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
I'd like to add a site (+functionality behind) with the following content:
--------------
Extensions over the JSR-299 Specification
This section contains a list of functionality in OpenWebBeans
which is not covered by the official specification.
OpenWebBeans is fully compatible with the JSR-299 standard if
the default configuration is being used. Nevertheless some parts
of the behaviour may be changed and some functionality is
additionally available.
Please note that using the mentioned functionality can cause
that your application may not be run on other WebBeans implementations.
OpenWebBeans may be configured that a WARNING message will be logged
whenever any of this additional functionality is being used.
--------------
The configuration may be done with openwebbeans.properties as explained below.
LieGrue,
strub
--- Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> schrieb am Sa, 24.1.2009:
> Von: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> Betreff: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Datum: Samstag, 24. Januar 2009, 14:56
> Hi!
>
> I'd like to know how we should cope with features we
> implement in OpenWebBeans which are _not_ specified in
> JSR-299 but are quite handy to have.
>
> 1.) Do we like to have such 'additional features'
> at all?
> I'd say yes, e.g. the injection of java primitives and
> wrappers for constructors and producers would be very
> valuable in praxis. Also a few optional configurations like
> to use a different name for 'beans.xml'
>
> 2.) If so, how do we document it?
> My preference would be to add a page for each extension in
> src/site/apt/extensions
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
AW: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
I'd like to add a site (+functionality behind) with the following content:
--------------
Extensions over the JSR-299 Specification
This section contains a list of functionality in OpenWebBeans
which is not covered by the official specification.
OpenWebBeans is fully compatible with the JSR-299 standard if
the default configuration is being used. Nevertheless some parts
of the behaviour may be changed and some functionality is
additionally available.
Please note that using the mentioned functionality can cause
that your application may not be run on other WebBeans implementations.
OpenWebBeans may be configured that a WARNING message will be logged
whenever any of this additional functionality is being used.
--------------
The configuration may be done with openwebbeans.properties as explained below.
LieGrue,
strub
--- Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> schrieb am Sa, 24.1.2009:
> Von: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> Betreff: how to cope with 'additional' features of OpenWebBeans over the Spec
> An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Datum: Samstag, 24. Januar 2009, 14:56
> Hi!
>
> I'd like to know how we should cope with features we
> implement in OpenWebBeans which are _not_ specified in
> JSR-299 but are quite handy to have.
>
> 1.) Do we like to have such 'additional features'
> at all?
> I'd say yes, e.g. the injection of java primitives and
> wrappers for constructors and producers would be very
> valuable in praxis. Also a few optional configurations like
> to use a different name for 'beans.xml'
>
> 2.) If so, how do we document it?
> My preference would be to add a page for each extension in
> src/site/apt/extensions
>
> LieGrue,
> strub