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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org> on 2003/11/12 07:27:03 UTC

Re: GT 2003 talks: audio only example, please test ogg version

Le Mardi, 11 nov 2003, à 12:31 Europe/Zurich, Antonio Gallardo a écrit :
> ...I would prefer ogg because MP3 has copyright issues.

Ok, I have prepared an ogg version of the example, please test on your 
platforms:

http://www.codeconsult.ch/clients/gt2003/00-introduction.ogg

I've tested it on macosx with ITunes and ogg plugin, plays ok, title 
and copyright are shown in the info fields.
To me it sounds worse than the mp3 version (which is about the same 
size), but is still understandable.

Encoding was done as follows:
oggenc -q1 -M16 --downmix --resample 8000 \
-t "Cocoon GT 2003, Steven Noels, introduction" \
-a "Copyright (C) 2003, Apache Software Foundation" \
00-introduction.wav

What do people think then, do we want to publish both mp3 and ogg (I 
can easily do both once I get going), or just ogg?

Also, do we have to ask before distributing this on the ASF mirrors? 
The whole low-fi audio files should take about 60 MB per format.

-Bertrand


Re: GT 2003 talks: audio only example, please test ogg version

Posted by David Crossley <cr...@indexgeo.com.au>.
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>  Antonio Gallardo a écrit :
> > ...I would prefer ogg because MP3 has copyright issues.
> 
> Ok, I have prepared an ogg version of the example, please test on your 
> platforms:
> 
> http://www.codeconsult.ch/clients/gt2003/00-introduction.ogg
> 
> I've tested it on macosx with ITunes and ogg plugin, plays ok, title 
> and copyright are shown in the info fields.

Yes it is fine here on Linux with various software:
xine, mplayer, noatun, xmms.

> To me it sounds worse than the mp3 version (which is about the same 
> size), but is still understandable.

Well i could not tell the difference.

> Encoding was done as follows:
> oggenc -q1 -M16 --downmix --resample 8000 \
> -t "Cocoon GT 2003, Steven Noels, introduction" \
> -a "Copyright (C) 2003, Apache Software Foundation" \
> 00-introduction.wav
> 
> What do people think then, do we want to publish both mp3 and ogg (I 
> can easily do both once I get going), or just ogg?

I think just ogg, as long as it works for everyone.

> Also, do we have to ask before distributing this on the ASF mirrors? 
> The whole low-fi audio files should take about 60 MB per format.

I reckon just-do-it. The video was the problem and infrastructure
was okay with that.

--David



Re: GT 2003 talks: low-bandwidth ogg audio files are online

Posted by David Crossley <cr...@indexgeo.com.au>.
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> 
> IIUC this means they will be available on the mirrors soon - please use 
> the mirrors for download.

http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi

Thanks, it is nice to hear you all.

--David


GT 2003 talks: low-bandwidth ogg audio files are online

Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
at http://www.apache.org/dist/cocoon/events/gt2003/audio/

IIUC this means they will be available on the mirrors soon - please use 
the mirrors for download.

-Bertrand


Re: GT 2003 talks: audio only example, please test ogg version

Posted by Torsten Curdt <tc...@vafer.org>.
> Ok, I have prepared an ogg version of the example, please test on your 
> platforms:
> 
> http://www.codeconsult.ch/clients/gt2003/00-introduction.ogg
> 
> I've tested it on macosx with ITunes and ogg plugin, plays ok, title and 
> copyright are shown in the info fields.

works perfecty on windows + winamp 2.9x

> To me it sounds worse than the mp3 version (which is about the same 
> size), but is still understandable.

I got the same feeling :-/

> Encoding was done as follows:
> oggenc -q1 -M16 --downmix --resample 8000 \
> -t "Cocoon GT 2003, Steven Noels, introduction" \
> -a "Copyright (C) 2003, Apache Software Foundation" \
> 00-introduction.wav
> 
> What do people think then, do we want to publish both mp3 and ogg (I can 
> easily do both once I get going), or just ogg?

Well, I would says one or the other!

Currently I only see the licence issue as a pro for ogg.

Thanks, Bertrand!
--
Torsten


Re: GT 2003 talks: audio only example, please test ogg version

Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agsoftware.dnsalias.com>.
Bertrand Delacretaz dijo:
> Le Mardi, 11 nov 2003, à 12:31 Europe/Zurich, Antonio Gallardo a écrit :
>> ...I would prefer ogg because MP3 has copyright issues.
>
> Ok, I have prepared an ogg version of the example, please test on your
> platforms:
>
> http://www.codeconsult.ch/clients/gt2003/00-introduction.ogg
>
> I've tested it on macosx with ITunes and ogg plugin, plays ok, title
> and copyright are shown in the info fields.
> To me it sounds worse than the mp3 version (which is about the same
> size), but is still understandable.

Hi Bertrand:

It is OK. I see: 17 kbps, 8KHz  MONO in XMMS.
My platform: Fedora Core 1

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo