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Posted to dev@hbase.apache.org by Sean Busbey <bu...@apache.org> on 2022/01/20 15:25:30 UTC
[DISCUSS] status of HBase 2.3.x
Hi folks!
Our Peter was asking in Slack about how to find the announcement for EOL on
HBase 2.3 releases. I did some digging around and I think there's been a
miscommunication.
The page header on our project's space on the ASF downloads page[1]
currently says 2.3 was EOL in October 2021. But none of the usual cleanup
has happened; namely 2.3.7 is still in our project download hosting and
listed on our download page.
I’ve found this discussion of EOL 2.3 which we listed in our board report:
https://s.apache.org/i56se
That discussion basically ended with "we need to have the stable pointer
updated to 2.4 first". After that discussion 2.3.7 was released. I can't
find any further discussion or a VOTE thread.
Personally I think we ought to just do a quick VOTE to make it EOL and
clean things up.
What do others think?
[1]: https://downloads.apache.org/hbase/
Re: [DISCUSS] status of HBase 2.3.x
Posted by Peter Somogyi <ps...@apache.org>.
Thanks for the digging Sean!
I agree to do a VOTE and send an announcement email to dev and user lists.
The stable pointer was already moved to 2.4 so there shouldn't be any
blockers to officially EOL the 2.3 line.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 4:25 PM Sean Busbey <bu...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> Our Peter was asking in Slack about how to find the announcement for EOL on
> HBase 2.3 releases. I did some digging around and I think there's been a
> miscommunication.
>
> The page header on our project's space on the ASF downloads page[1]
> currently says 2.3 was EOL in October 2021. But none of the usual cleanup
> has happened; namely 2.3.7 is still in our project download hosting and
> listed on our download page.
>
> I’ve found this discussion of EOL 2.3 which we listed in our board report:
> https://s.apache.org/i56se
>
> That discussion basically ended with "we need to have the stable pointer
> updated to 2.4 first". After that discussion 2.3.7 was released. I can't
> find any further discussion or a VOTE thread.
>
> Personally I think we ought to just do a quick VOTE to make it EOL and
> clean things up.
>
> What do others think?
>
> [1]: https://downloads.apache.org/hbase/
>
Re: [DISCUSS] status of HBase 2.3.x
Posted by Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org>.
Makes sense, sounds good.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 08:07 Sean Busbey <bu...@apache.org> wrote:
> I would rather have a VOTE that makes our consensus clear for things like
> EOL for branches, especially one that has had the stable pointer
> previously. I don't think lazy consensus is a sufficient bar in that case.
>
> It sounds like everyone is agreeable to EOL so I'll go start the thread.
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 2:00 PM Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Sounds like an omission on my part -- I just didn't follow through on the
> > necessary steps after our decision to EOL. I'd rather not VOTE because
> > there was already lazy consensus around the discussions.
> >
> > Regardless of remaining internal community action, is there a checklist
> for
> > RMs to follow when a release line reaches end of life?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nick
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 9:17 AM Andrew Purtell <andrew.purtell@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Let’s vote. The stable pointer has been moved so there should be no
> > vetos.
> > >
> > > > On Jan 20, 2022, at 7:25 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi folks!
> > > >
> > > > Our Peter was asking in Slack about how to find the announcement for
> > EOL
> > > on
> > > > HBase 2.3 releases. I did some digging around and I think there's
> been
> > a
> > > > miscommunication.
> > > >
> > > > The page header on our project's space on the ASF downloads page[1]
> > > > currently says 2.3 was EOL in October 2021. But none of the usual
> > cleanup
> > > > has happened; namely 2.3.7 is still in our project download hosting
> and
> > > > listed on our download page.
> > > >
> > > > I’ve found this discussion of EOL 2.3 which we listed in our board
> > > report:
> > > > https://s.apache.org/i56se
> > > >
> > > > That discussion basically ended with "we need to have the stable
> > pointer
> > > > updated to 2.4 first". After that discussion 2.3.7 was released. I
> > can't
> > > > find any further discussion or a VOTE thread.
> > > >
> > > > Personally I think we ought to just do a quick VOTE to make it EOL
> and
> > > > clean things up.
> > > >
> > > > What do others think?
> > > >
> > > > [1]: https://downloads.apache.org/hbase/
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] status of HBase 2.3.x
Posted by Sean Busbey <bu...@apache.org>.
I would rather have a VOTE that makes our consensus clear for things like
EOL for branches, especially one that has had the stable pointer
previously. I don't think lazy consensus is a sufficient bar in that case.
It sounds like everyone is agreeable to EOL so I'll go start the thread.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 2:00 PM Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org> wrote:
> Sounds like an omission on my part -- I just didn't follow through on the
> necessary steps after our decision to EOL. I'd rather not VOTE because
> there was already lazy consensus around the discussions.
>
> Regardless of remaining internal community action, is there a checklist for
> RMs to follow when a release line reaches end of life?
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 9:17 AM Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Let’s vote. The stable pointer has been moved so there should be no
> vetos.
> >
> > > On Jan 20, 2022, at 7:25 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi folks!
> > >
> > > Our Peter was asking in Slack about how to find the announcement for
> EOL
> > on
> > > HBase 2.3 releases. I did some digging around and I think there's been
> a
> > > miscommunication.
> > >
> > > The page header on our project's space on the ASF downloads page[1]
> > > currently says 2.3 was EOL in October 2021. But none of the usual
> cleanup
> > > has happened; namely 2.3.7 is still in our project download hosting and
> > > listed on our download page.
> > >
> > > I’ve found this discussion of EOL 2.3 which we listed in our board
> > report:
> > > https://s.apache.org/i56se
> > >
> > > That discussion basically ended with "we need to have the stable
> pointer
> > > updated to 2.4 first". After that discussion 2.3.7 was released. I
> can't
> > > find any further discussion or a VOTE thread.
> > >
> > > Personally I think we ought to just do a quick VOTE to make it EOL and
> > > clean things up.
> > >
> > > What do others think?
> > >
> > > [1]: https://downloads.apache.org/hbase/
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] status of HBase 2.3.x
Posted by Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org>.
Sounds like an omission on my part -- I just didn't follow through on the
necessary steps after our decision to EOL. I'd rather not VOTE because
there was already lazy consensus around the discussions.
Regardless of remaining internal community action, is there a checklist for
RMs to follow when a release line reaches end of life?
Thanks,
Nick
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 9:17 AM Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Let’s vote. The stable pointer has been moved so there should be no vetos.
>
> > On Jan 20, 2022, at 7:25 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks!
> >
> > Our Peter was asking in Slack about how to find the announcement for EOL
> on
> > HBase 2.3 releases. I did some digging around and I think there's been a
> > miscommunication.
> >
> > The page header on our project's space on the ASF downloads page[1]
> > currently says 2.3 was EOL in October 2021. But none of the usual cleanup
> > has happened; namely 2.3.7 is still in our project download hosting and
> > listed on our download page.
> >
> > I’ve found this discussion of EOL 2.3 which we listed in our board
> report:
> > https://s.apache.org/i56se
> >
> > That discussion basically ended with "we need to have the stable pointer
> > updated to 2.4 first". After that discussion 2.3.7 was released. I can't
> > find any further discussion or a VOTE thread.
> >
> > Personally I think we ought to just do a quick VOTE to make it EOL and
> > clean things up.
> >
> > What do others think?
> >
> > [1]: https://downloads.apache.org/hbase/
>
Re: [DISCUSS] status of HBase 2.3.x
Posted by Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com>.
Let’s vote. The stable pointer has been moved so there should be no vetos.
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 7:25 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi folks!
>
> Our Peter was asking in Slack about how to find the announcement for EOL on
> HBase 2.3 releases. I did some digging around and I think there's been a
> miscommunication.
>
> The page header on our project's space on the ASF downloads page[1]
> currently says 2.3 was EOL in October 2021. But none of the usual cleanup
> has happened; namely 2.3.7 is still in our project download hosting and
> listed on our download page.
>
> I’ve found this discussion of EOL 2.3 which we listed in our board report:
> https://s.apache.org/i56se
>
> That discussion basically ended with "we need to have the stable pointer
> updated to 2.4 first". After that discussion 2.3.7 was released. I can't
> find any further discussion or a VOTE thread.
>
> Personally I think we ought to just do a quick VOTE to make it EOL and
> clean things up.
>
> What do others think?
>
> [1]: https://downloads.apache.org/hbase/