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Posted to user@karaf.apache.org by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> on 2020/12/15 17:32:15 UTC
[X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Hi guys,
Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
I have something that it’s almost "usable".
Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
The agenda of this call would be:
1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
3. Building & running
4. Live demo
It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
Thoughts ?
Who would be interested ?
Thanks,
Regards
JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Daniel Las <da...@empirica.io>.
Thank you JB, I'm waiting for the schedule proposal then.
Regarards
czw., 17 gru 2020 o 09:07 Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> napisał(a):
> Hi Daniel,
>
> I don’t know yet. My first intention was to register a session and share
> with you. However, I received several people who wants to live chat. So I’m
> checking between work and off agenda to find some slots to propose to you.
>
> It might be a first introduction email before Christmas (for people who
> replied to my email) and then a live session (google meet for instance).
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> Le 17 déc. 2020 à 07:45, Daniel Las <da...@empirica.io> a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to attend too. What's the planned schedule?
>
> Regards
>
> wt., 15 gru 2020 o 18:32 Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> napisał(a):
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>>
>> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>>
>> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would
>> like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>>
>> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel
>> discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>>
>> The agenda of this call would be:
>> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
>> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
>> 3. Building & running
>> 4. Live demo
>>
>> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20
>> people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
>> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>> Who would be interested ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Regards
>> JB
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Łaś
> CTO at Empirica S.A.
> +48 695 616181
>
>
>
--
Daniel Łaś
CTO at Empirica S.A.
+48 695 616181
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Daniel Las <da...@empirica.io.INVALID>.
Thank you JB, I'm waiting for the schedule proposal then.
Regarards
czw., 17 gru 2020 o 09:07 Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> napisał(a):
> Hi Daniel,
>
> I don’t know yet. My first intention was to register a session and share
> with you. However, I received several people who wants to live chat. So I’m
> checking between work and off agenda to find some slots to propose to you.
>
> It might be a first introduction email before Christmas (for people who
> replied to my email) and then a live session (google meet for instance).
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> Le 17 déc. 2020 à 07:45, Daniel Las <da...@empirica.io> a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to attend too. What's the planned schedule?
>
> Regards
>
> wt., 15 gru 2020 o 18:32 Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> napisał(a):
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>>
>> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>>
>> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would
>> like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>>
>> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel
>> discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>>
>> The agenda of this call would be:
>> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
>> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
>> 3. Building & running
>> 4. Live demo
>>
>> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20
>> people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
>> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>> Who would be interested ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Regards
>> JB
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Łaś
> CTO at Empirica S.A.
> +48 695 616181
>
>
>
--
Daniel Łaś
CTO at Empirica S.A.
+48 695 616181
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Daniel,
I don’t know yet. My first intention was to register a session and share with you. However, I received several people who wants to live chat. So I’m checking between work and off agenda to find some slots to propose to you.
It might be a first introduction email before Christmas (for people who replied to my email) and then a live session (google meet for instance).
Regards
JB
> Le 17 déc. 2020 à 07:45, Daniel Las <da...@empirica.io> a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to attend too. What's the planned schedule?
>
> Regards
>
> wt., 15 gru 2020 o 18:32 Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>> napisał(a):
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> --
> Daniel Łaś
> CTO at Empirica S.A.
> +48 695 616181
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Daniel,
I don’t know yet. My first intention was to register a session and share with you. However, I received several people who wants to live chat. So I’m checking between work and off agenda to find some slots to propose to you.
It might be a first introduction email before Christmas (for people who replied to my email) and then a live session (google meet for instance).
Regards
JB
> Le 17 déc. 2020 à 07:45, Daniel Las <da...@empirica.io> a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to attend too. What's the planned schedule?
>
> Regards
>
> wt., 15 gru 2020 o 18:32 Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>> napisał(a):
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> --
> Daniel Łaś
> CTO at Empirica S.A.
> +48 695 616181
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Daniel Las <da...@empirica.io.INVALID>.
Hi,
I'd like to attend too. What's the planned schedule?
Regards
wt., 15 gru 2020 o 18:32 Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> napisał(a):
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would
> like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel
> discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20
> people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
--
Daniel Łaś
CTO at Empirica S.A.
+48 695 616181
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com>.
Yep! This would be great, please include me on the invite.
> On Dec 15, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Alex Weirig <al...@technolink.lu>.
Hi JB,
sounds great. I'll have to keep an eye on 5 then.
Thanks.
Mat frëndleche Gréiss, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Meilleures salutations,
Kind regards,
Alex Weirig
Responsable Technique Ville de Luxembourg Service Enseignement Centre
Technolink *Tel* +352 4796 - 6127 <tel:+35247966127> *Fax* +352 42 88 81
*Email* alex.weirig@technolink.lu <ma...@technolink.lu>
www.vdl.lu <http://www.vdl.lu> // www.technolink.lu
<http://www.technolink.lu> Centre Technolink 2, rue Charles de Tornaco
L-2623 LUXEMBOURG
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<https://map.what3words.com/schaufel.besten.kopie>
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On 17/12/2020 17:08, Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote:
> Hi,
>
> That’s exactly the purpose of extension in replacement of features:
> Karaf will provides kind of "extension store", with "approved"
> functionalities.
>
> You can see a extensions proto set here:
>
> https://github.com/jbonofre/karaf5/tree/main/extensions
> <https://github.com/jbonofre/karaf5/tree/main/extensions>
>
> It’s exactly what you are describing: you have the extension market
> store, and I will also add "extension bom" for developers (for now,
> extensions are runtime).
>
> Here’s the code to start Karaf with extension:
>
>
> KarafConfig config = KarafConfig.builder()
> .homeDirectory("karaf")
> .dataDirectory("karaf/data")
> .cacheDirectory("karaf/data/cache")
> .build();
> karaf = Karaf.build(config);
> karaf.init();
> karaf.addExtension("mvn:org.apache.karaf.extensions/log/5.0.0-SNAPSHOT");
>
> Then, you can simple run karaf with java -jar my-karaf.jar
>
> With this approach, it’s very easy to have an UI to create this code.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
>> Le 17 déc. 2020 à 14:29, Alex Weirig <alex.weirig@technolink.lu
>> <ma...@technolink.lu>> a écrit :
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> imho, one of the biggest issues with (karaf) is that you need to know
>> where you get the right bundles/features from. If I want to do JAX-RS
>> with Whiteboard, what repo do I need to add? What version? How do I
>> even know I need to add a repo and where to find the right address
>> for that repo?
>>
>>
>> I'm sure you all have been through trying to figure out what you need
>> to add to karaf in order to have it support the features you need.
>>
>> Once you've done it, you better take note of it, because next time
>> you setup a new karaf instance you might have to figure it out again.
>> But maybe in the mean time, Aries has changed a couple of things,
>> versions have changed (for sure) etc.
>>
>>
>> Isn't it so much easier on our smartphones and even computers? ... We
>> go to the app store, search for an app and once we've bought it, if
>> we want to re-install it, it's still there, probably even with a new
>> version.
>>
>>
>> Now, I'm not asking for a karaf app store but what about a "wizard"
>> where you can pick from some of the most common use cases we all love
>> to see running in our karaf instances.
>>
>> This could be some kind of a list:
>>
>> * DS
>> * Webconsole
>> * JAX-RS with Whiteboard
>> * JPA ...
>> * Blueprint ...
>> * your favorites here
>>
>> and you pick what you need and karaf (somehow) knows what repos to
>> add and what to install from the repos.
>>
>> Seconds later, you get your new karaf instance up and running.
>>
>>
>> Is there anyone else thinking that this could be useful or am I the
>> only one struggling with these issues? That would be my Xmas wish for
>> Karaf 5.x.
>>
>>
>> Merry Xmas and a wonderful healthy Happy New Year 2021 to all of you.
>> Take care and stay healthy.
>>
>> Mat frëndleche Gréiss, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Meilleures
>> salutations, Kind regards,
>> Alex Weirig
>> Responsable Technique Ville de Luxembourg Service Enseignement Centre
>> Technolink *Tel* +352 4796 - 6127 <tel:+35247966127> *Fax* +352 42 88
>> 81 *Email* alex.weirig@technolink.lu
>> <ma...@technolink.lu> www.vdl.lu <http://www.vdl.lu/> //
>> www.technolink.lu <http://www.technolink.lu/> Centre Technolink 2,
>> rue Charles de Tornaco L-2623 LUXEMBOURG
>> //indoors.this.blesses
>> <https://map.what3words.com/indoors.this.blesses>
>> //schaufel.besten.kopie
>> <https://map.what3words.com/schaufel.besten.kopie>
>> //supposons.levage.venger
>> <https://map.what3words.com/supposons.levage.venger>
>> On 15/12/2020 18:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>>>
>>> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>>>
>>> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>>>
>>> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>>>
>>> The agenda of this call would be:
>>> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
>>> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
>>> 3. Building & running
>>> 4. Live demo
>>>
>>> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
>>> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>> Who would be interested ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Alex Weirig <al...@technolink.lu>.
Hi JB,
sounds great. I'll have to keep an eye on 5 then.
Thanks.
Mat frëndleche Gréiss, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Meilleures salutations,
Kind regards,
Alex Weirig
Responsable Technique Ville de Luxembourg Service Enseignement Centre
Technolink *Tel* +352 4796 - 6127 <tel:+35247966127> *Fax* +352 42 88 81
*Email* alex.weirig@technolink.lu <ma...@technolink.lu>
www.vdl.lu <http://www.vdl.lu> // www.technolink.lu
<http://www.technolink.lu> Centre Technolink 2, rue Charles de Tornaco
L-2623 LUXEMBOURG
//indoors.this.blesses
<https://map.what3words.com/indoors.this.blesses>
//schaufel.besten.kopie
<https://map.what3words.com/schaufel.besten.kopie>
//supposons.levage.venger
<https://map.what3words.com/supposons.levage.venger>
On 17/12/2020 17:08, Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote:
> Hi,
>
> That’s exactly the purpose of extension in replacement of features:
> Karaf will provides kind of "extension store", with "approved"
> functionalities.
>
> You can see a extensions proto set here:
>
> https://github.com/jbonofre/karaf5/tree/main/extensions
> <https://github.com/jbonofre/karaf5/tree/main/extensions>
>
> It’s exactly what you are describing: you have the extension market
> store, and I will also add "extension bom" for developers (for now,
> extensions are runtime).
>
> Here’s the code to start Karaf with extension:
>
>
> KarafConfig config = KarafConfig.builder()
> .homeDirectory("karaf")
> .dataDirectory("karaf/data")
> .cacheDirectory("karaf/data/cache")
> .build();
> karaf = Karaf.build(config);
> karaf.init();
> karaf.addExtension("mvn:org.apache.karaf.extensions/log/5.0.0-SNAPSHOT");
>
> Then, you can simple run karaf with java -jar my-karaf.jar
>
> With this approach, it’s very easy to have an UI to create this code.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
>> Le 17 déc. 2020 à 14:29, Alex Weirig <alex.weirig@technolink.lu
>> <ma...@technolink.lu>> a écrit :
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> imho, one of the biggest issues with (karaf) is that you need to know
>> where you get the right bundles/features from. If I want to do JAX-RS
>> with Whiteboard, what repo do I need to add? What version? How do I
>> even know I need to add a repo and where to find the right address
>> for that repo?
>>
>>
>> I'm sure you all have been through trying to figure out what you need
>> to add to karaf in order to have it support the features you need.
>>
>> Once you've done it, you better take note of it, because next time
>> you setup a new karaf instance you might have to figure it out again.
>> But maybe in the mean time, Aries has changed a couple of things,
>> versions have changed (for sure) etc.
>>
>>
>> Isn't it so much easier on our smartphones and even computers? ... We
>> go to the app store, search for an app and once we've bought it, if
>> we want to re-install it, it's still there, probably even with a new
>> version.
>>
>>
>> Now, I'm not asking for a karaf app store but what about a "wizard"
>> where you can pick from some of the most common use cases we all love
>> to see running in our karaf instances.
>>
>> This could be some kind of a list:
>>
>> * DS
>> * Webconsole
>> * JAX-RS with Whiteboard
>> * JPA ...
>> * Blueprint ...
>> * your favorites here
>>
>> and you pick what you need and karaf (somehow) knows what repos to
>> add and what to install from the repos.
>>
>> Seconds later, you get your new karaf instance up and running.
>>
>>
>> Is there anyone else thinking that this could be useful or am I the
>> only one struggling with these issues? That would be my Xmas wish for
>> Karaf 5.x.
>>
>>
>> Merry Xmas and a wonderful healthy Happy New Year 2021 to all of you.
>> Take care and stay healthy.
>>
>> Mat frëndleche Gréiss, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Meilleures
>> salutations, Kind regards,
>> Alex Weirig
>> Responsable Technique Ville de Luxembourg Service Enseignement Centre
>> Technolink *Tel* +352 4796 - 6127 <tel:+35247966127> *Fax* +352 42 88
>> 81 *Email* alex.weirig@technolink.lu
>> <ma...@technolink.lu> www.vdl.lu <http://www.vdl.lu/> //
>> www.technolink.lu <http://www.technolink.lu/> Centre Technolink 2,
>> rue Charles de Tornaco L-2623 LUXEMBOURG
>> //indoors.this.blesses
>> <https://map.what3words.com/indoors.this.blesses>
>> //schaufel.besten.kopie
>> <https://map.what3words.com/schaufel.besten.kopie>
>> //supposons.levage.venger
>> <https://map.what3words.com/supposons.levage.venger>
>> On 15/12/2020 18:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>>>
>>> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>>>
>>> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>>>
>>> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>>>
>>> The agenda of this call would be:
>>> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
>>> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
>>> 3. Building & running
>>> 4. Live demo
>>>
>>> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
>>> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>> Who would be interested ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi,
That’s exactly the purpose of extension in replacement of features: Karaf will provides kind of "extension store", with "approved" functionalities.
You can see a extensions proto set here:
https://github.com/jbonofre/karaf5/tree/main/extensions <https://github.com/jbonofre/karaf5/tree/main/extensions>
It’s exactly what you are describing: you have the extension market store, and I will also add "extension bom" for developers (for now, extensions are runtime).
Here’s the code to start Karaf with extension:
KarafConfig config = KarafConfig.builder()
.homeDirectory("karaf")
.dataDirectory("karaf/data")
.cacheDirectory("karaf/data/cache")
.build();
karaf = Karaf.build(config);
karaf.init();
karaf.addExtension("mvn:org.apache.karaf.extensions/log/5.0.0-SNAPSHOT");
Then, you can simple run karaf with java -jar my-karaf.jar
With this approach, it’s very easy to have an UI to create this code.
Regards
JB
> Le 17 déc. 2020 à 14:29, Alex Weirig <al...@technolink.lu> a écrit :
>
> Dear all,
>
> imho, one of the biggest issues with (karaf) is that you need to know where you get the right bundles/features from. If I want to do JAX-RS with Whiteboard, what repo do I need to add? What version? How do I even know I need to add a repo and where to find the right address for that repo?
>
>
>
> I'm sure you all have been through trying to figure out what you need to add to karaf in order to have it support the features you need.
>
> Once you've done it, you better take note of it, because next time you setup a new karaf instance you might have to figure it out again. But maybe in the mean time, Aries has changed a couple of things, versions have changed (for sure) etc.
>
>
>
> Isn't it so much easier on our smartphones and even computers? ... We go to the app store, search for an app and once we've bought it, if we want to re-install it, it's still there, probably even with a new version.
>
>
>
> Now, I'm not asking for a karaf app store but what about a "wizard" where you can pick from some of the most common use cases we all love to see running in our karaf instances.
>
> This could be some kind of a list:
>
> DS
> Webconsole
> JAX-RS with Whiteboard
> JPA ...
> Blueprint ...
> your favorites here
> and you pick what you need and karaf (somehow) knows what repos to add and what to install from the repos.
>
> Seconds later, you get your new karaf instance up and running.
>
>
>
> Is there anyone else thinking that this could be useful or am I the only one struggling with these issues? That would be my Xmas wish for Karaf 5.x.
>
>
>
> Merry Xmas and a wonderful healthy Happy New Year 2021 to all of you. Take care and stay healthy.
>
>
> Mat frëndleche Gréiss,
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
> Meilleures salutations,
> Kind regards,
>
> Alex Weirig
> Responsable Technique
> Ville de Luxembourg
> Service Enseignement
> Centre Technolink
>
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> On 15/12/2020 18:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>>
>> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>>
>> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>>
>> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>>
>> The agenda of this call would be:
>> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
>> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
>> 3. Building & running
>> 4. Live demo
>>
>> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
>> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>> Who would be interested ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Regards
>> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Francois Papon <fr...@openobject.fr>.
Hi,
Yes, we can name that a "Karaf-starter", we already have some ideas on
some dev tools to do that (past DevX effort).
regards,
François
fpapon@apache.org
Le 17/12/2020 à 14:29, Alex Weirig a écrit :
>
> Dear all,
>
> imho, one of the biggest issues with (karaf) is that you need to know
> where you get the right bundles/features from. If I want to do JAX-RS
> with Whiteboard, what repo do I need to add? What version? How do I
> even know I need to add a repo and where to find the right address for
> that repo?
>
>
> I'm sure you all have been through trying to figure out what you need
> to add to karaf in order to have it support the features you need.
>
> Once you've done it, you better take note of it, because next time you
> setup a new karaf instance you might have to figure it out again. But
> maybe in the mean time, Aries has changed a couple of things, versions
> have changed (for sure) etc.
>
>
> Isn't it so much easier on our smartphones and even computers? ... We
> go to the app store, search for an app and once we've bought it, if we
> want to re-install it, it's still there, probably even with a new version.
>
>
> Now, I'm not asking for a karaf app store but what about a "wizard"
> where you can pick from some of the most common use cases we all love
> to see running in our karaf instances.
>
> This could be some kind of a list:
>
> * DS
> * Webconsole
> * JAX-RS with Whiteboard
> * JPA ...
> * Blueprint ...
> * your favorites here
>
> and you pick what you need and karaf (somehow) knows what repos to add
> and what to install from the repos.
>
> Seconds later, you get your new karaf instance up and running.
>
>
> Is there anyone else thinking that this could be useful or am I the
> only one struggling with these issues? That would be my Xmas wish for
> Karaf 5.x.
>
>
> Merry Xmas and a wonderful healthy Happy New Year 2021 to all of you.
> Take care and stay healthy.
>
> Mat frëndleche Gréiss, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Meilleures
> salutations, Kind regards,
> Alex Weirig
> Responsable Technique Ville de Luxembourg Service Enseignement Centre
> Technolink *Tel* +352 4796 - 6127 <tel:+35247966127> *Fax* +352 42 88
> 81 *Email* alex.weirig@technolink.lu
> <ma...@technolink.lu> www.vdl.lu <http://www.vdl.lu> //
> www.technolink.lu <http://www.technolink.lu> Centre Technolink 2, rue
> Charles de Tornaco L-2623 LUXEMBOURG
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> <https://map.what3words.com/indoors.this.blesses>
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> <https://map.what3words.com/schaufel.besten.kopie>
> //supposons.levage.venger
> <https://map.what3words.com/supposons.levage.venger>
> On 15/12/2020 18:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>>
>> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>>
>> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>>
>> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>>
>> The agenda of this call would be:
>> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
>> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
>> 3. Building & running
>> 4. Live demo
>>
>> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
>> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>> Who would be interested ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Regards
>> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi,
That’s exactly the purpose of extension in replacement of features: Karaf will provides kind of "extension store", with "approved" functionalities.
You can see a extensions proto set here:
https://github.com/jbonofre/karaf5/tree/main/extensions <https://github.com/jbonofre/karaf5/tree/main/extensions>
It’s exactly what you are describing: you have the extension market store, and I will also add "extension bom" for developers (for now, extensions are runtime).
Here’s the code to start Karaf with extension:
KarafConfig config = KarafConfig.builder()
.homeDirectory("karaf")
.dataDirectory("karaf/data")
.cacheDirectory("karaf/data/cache")
.build();
karaf = Karaf.build(config);
karaf.init();
karaf.addExtension("mvn:org.apache.karaf.extensions/log/5.0.0-SNAPSHOT");
Then, you can simple run karaf with java -jar my-karaf.jar
With this approach, it’s very easy to have an UI to create this code.
Regards
JB
> Le 17 déc. 2020 à 14:29, Alex Weirig <al...@technolink.lu> a écrit :
>
> Dear all,
>
> imho, one of the biggest issues with (karaf) is that you need to know where you get the right bundles/features from. If I want to do JAX-RS with Whiteboard, what repo do I need to add? What version? How do I even know I need to add a repo and where to find the right address for that repo?
>
>
>
> I'm sure you all have been through trying to figure out what you need to add to karaf in order to have it support the features you need.
>
> Once you've done it, you better take note of it, because next time you setup a new karaf instance you might have to figure it out again. But maybe in the mean time, Aries has changed a couple of things, versions have changed (for sure) etc.
>
>
>
> Isn't it so much easier on our smartphones and even computers? ... We go to the app store, search for an app and once we've bought it, if we want to re-install it, it's still there, probably even with a new version.
>
>
>
> Now, I'm not asking for a karaf app store but what about a "wizard" where you can pick from some of the most common use cases we all love to see running in our karaf instances.
>
> This could be some kind of a list:
>
> DS
> Webconsole
> JAX-RS with Whiteboard
> JPA ...
> Blueprint ...
> your favorites here
> and you pick what you need and karaf (somehow) knows what repos to add and what to install from the repos.
>
> Seconds later, you get your new karaf instance up and running.
>
>
>
> Is there anyone else thinking that this could be useful or am I the only one struggling with these issues? That would be my Xmas wish for Karaf 5.x.
>
>
>
> Merry Xmas and a wonderful healthy Happy New Year 2021 to all of you. Take care and stay healthy.
>
>
> Mat frëndleche Gréiss,
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
> Meilleures salutations,
> Kind regards,
>
> Alex Weirig
> Responsable Technique
> Ville de Luxembourg
> Service Enseignement
> Centre Technolink
>
> Tel +352 4796 - 6127 <tel:+35247966127>
> Fax +352 42 88 81
> Email alex.weirig@technolink.lu <ma...@technolink.lu>
> www.vdl.lu <http://www.vdl.lu/> // www.technolink.lu <http://www.technolink.lu/>
>
> Centre Technolink
> 2, rue Charles de Tornaco
> L-2623 LUXEMBOURG
>
> indoors.this.blesses
> <https://map.what3words.com/indoors.this.blesses>schaufel.besten.kopie
> <https://map.what3words.com/schaufel.besten.kopie>supposons.levage.venger
> <https://map.what3words.com/supposons.levage.venger>
> On 15/12/2020 18:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>>
>> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>>
>> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>>
>> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>>
>> The agenda of this call would be:
>> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
>> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
>> 3. Building & running
>> 4. Live demo
>>
>> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
>> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>> Who would be interested ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Regards
>> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Alex Weirig <al...@technolink.lu>.
Dear all,
imho, one of the biggest issues with (karaf) is that you need to know
where you get the right bundles/features from. If I want to do JAX-RS
with Whiteboard, what repo do I need to add? What version? How do I even
know I need to add a repo and where to find the right address for that repo?
I'm sure you all have been through trying to figure out what you need to
add to karaf in order to have it support the features you need.
Once you've done it, you better take note of it, because next time you
setup a new karaf instance you might have to figure it out again. But
maybe in the mean time, Aries has changed a couple of things, versions
have changed (for sure) etc.
Isn't it so much easier on our smartphones and even computers? ... We go
to the app store, search for an app and once we've bought it, if we want
to re-install it, it's still there, probably even with a new version.
Now, I'm not asking for a karaf app store but what about a "wizard"
where you can pick from some of the most common use cases we all love to
see running in our karaf instances.
This could be some kind of a list:
* DS
* Webconsole
* JAX-RS with Whiteboard
* JPA ...
* Blueprint ...
* your favorites here
and you pick what you need and karaf (somehow) knows what repos to add
and what to install from the repos.
Seconds later, you get your new karaf instance up and running.
Is there anyone else thinking that this could be useful or am I the only
one struggling with these issues? That would be my Xmas wish for Karaf 5.x.
Merry Xmas and a wonderful healthy Happy New Year 2021 to all of you.
Take care and stay healthy.
Mat frëndleche Gréiss, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Meilleures salutations,
Kind regards,
Alex Weirig
Responsable Technique Ville de Luxembourg Service Enseignement Centre
Technolink *Tel* +352 4796 - 6127 <tel:+35247966127> *Fax* +352 42 88 81
*Email* alex.weirig@technolink.lu <ma...@technolink.lu>
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On 15/12/2020 18:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Grzegorz Grzybek <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hello
Great idea! I'd be glad to join in reasonable hours ;)
And +1 for quick summary of the "state of OSGi".
regards
Grzegorz Grzybek
śr., 16 gru 2020 o 00:43 Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>
napisał(a):
> Hello,
>
> Yes this sounds interesting, would like to listen in.
>
> BTW if you can spare 5 minutes of this call to generally talk about OSGi
> and it’s Future, it would be even better.
>
> Gruss
> Bernd
> --
> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> ________________________________
> Von: Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> Gesendet: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:32:15 PM
> An: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; user@karaf.apache.org <
> user@karaf.apache.org>
> Betreff: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would
> like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel
> discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20
> people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
>
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>.
Hello,
Yes this sounds interesting, would like to listen in.
BTW if you can spare 5 minutes of this call to generally talk about OSGi and it’s Future, it would be even better.
Gruss
Bernd
--
http://bernd.eckenfels.net
________________________________
Von: Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>
Gesendet: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:32:15 PM
An: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; user@karaf.apache.org <us...@karaf.apache.org>
Betreff: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Hi guys,
Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
I have something that it’s almost "usable".
Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
The agenda of this call would be:
1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
3. Building & running
4. Live demo
It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
Thoughts ?
Who would be interested ?
Thanks,
Regards
JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com>.
Yep! This would be great, please include me on the invite.
> On Dec 15, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Thomas Driessen <th...@gmail.com>.
Hi J.B. :)
as you already teasered me, I would love to join ;)
Kind regards,
Thomas
Oleg Cohen <ol...@assurebridge.com> schrieb am Di., 15. Dez. 2020,
19:03:
> Hi JB,
>
> Great news! This is awesome. I would love to join.
>
> Best regards,
> Oleg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 15, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
> >
> > I have something that it’s almost "usable".
> >
> > Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would
> like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
> >
> > I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel
> discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
> >
> > The agenda of this call would be:
> > 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> > 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> > 3. Building & running
> > 4. Live demo
> >
> > It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about
> 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> > The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> > Who would be interested ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Regards
> > JB
>
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Thomas Driessen <th...@gmail.com>.
Hi J.B. :)
as you already teasered me, I would love to join ;)
Kind regards,
Thomas
Oleg Cohen <ol...@assurebridge.com> schrieb am Di., 15. Dez. 2020,
19:03:
> Hi JB,
>
> Great news! This is awesome. I would love to join.
>
> Best regards,
> Oleg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 15, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
> >
> > I have something that it’s almost "usable".
> >
> > Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would
> like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
> >
> > I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel
> discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
> >
> > The agenda of this call would be:
> > 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> > 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> > 3. Building & running
> > 4. Live demo
> >
> > It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about
> 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> > The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> > Who would be interested ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Regards
> > JB
>
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Oleg Cohen <ol...@assurebridge.com>.
Hi JB,
Great news! This is awesome. I would love to join.
Best regards,
Oleg
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 15, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by michael e <mi...@outlook.fr>.
Hello JB,
I'm interested.
Thank for your great work again.
Michael.
________________________________
From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 6:32 PM
To: dev@karaf.apache.org; user@karaf.apache.org
Subject: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Hi guys,
Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
I have something that it’s almost "usable".
Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
The agenda of this call would be:
1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
3. Building & running
4. Live demo
It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
Thoughts ?
Who would be interested ?
Thanks,
Regards
JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by michael e <mi...@outlook.fr>.
Hello JB,
I'm interested.
Thank for your great work again.
Michael.
________________________________
From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 6:32 PM
To: dev@karaf.apache.org; user@karaf.apache.org
Subject: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Hi guys,
Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
I have something that it’s almost "usable".
Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
The agenda of this call would be:
1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
3. Building & running
4. Live demo
It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
Thoughts ?
Who would be interested ?
Thanks,
Regards
JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Francois Papon <fr...@openobject.fr>.
Hi,
I'm also happy to see all the user feedback around Karaf 5.
Thanks guys to help us to make Karaf better!
regards,
François
fpapon@apache.org
Le 17/12/2020 à 06:06, Jean-Baptiste Onofre a écrit :
> Thanks a lot guys for all your interest and positive feedback !
>
> I will send an invite soon.
>
> Thanks !
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>> Le 15 déc. 2020 à 18:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> a écrit :
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>>
>> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>>
>> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>>
>> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>>
>> The agenda of this call would be:
>> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
>> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
>> 3. Building & running
>> 4. Live demo
>>
>> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
>> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>> Who would be interested ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Regards
>> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Thanks a lot guys for all your interest and positive feedback !
I will send an invite soon.
Thanks !
Regards
JB
> Le 15 déc. 2020 à 18:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> a écrit :
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Daniel Las <da...@empirica.io>.
Hi,
I'd like to attend too. What's the planned schedule?
Regards
wt., 15 gru 2020 o 18:32 Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> napisał(a):
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would
> like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel
> discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20
> people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
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Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Alex Weirig <al...@technolink.lu>.
Dear all,
imho, one of the biggest issues with (karaf) is that you need to know
where you get the right bundles/features from. If I want to do JAX-RS
with Whiteboard, what repo do I need to add? What version? How do I even
know I need to add a repo and where to find the right address for that repo?
I'm sure you all have been through trying to figure out what you need to
add to karaf in order to have it support the features you need.
Once you've done it, you better take note of it, because next time you
setup a new karaf instance you might have to figure it out again. But
maybe in the mean time, Aries has changed a couple of things, versions
have changed (for sure) etc.
Isn't it so much easier on our smartphones and even computers? ... We go
to the app store, search for an app and once we've bought it, if we want
to re-install it, it's still there, probably even with a new version.
Now, I'm not asking for a karaf app store but what about a "wizard"
where you can pick from some of the most common use cases we all love to
see running in our karaf instances.
This could be some kind of a list:
* DS
* Webconsole
* JAX-RS with Whiteboard
* JPA ...
* Blueprint ...
* your favorites here
and you pick what you need and karaf (somehow) knows what repos to add
and what to install from the repos.
Seconds later, you get your new karaf instance up and running.
Is there anyone else thinking that this could be useful or am I the only
one struggling with these issues? That would be my Xmas wish for Karaf 5.x.
Merry Xmas and a wonderful healthy Happy New Year 2021 to all of you.
Take care and stay healthy.
Mat frëndleche Gréiss, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Meilleures salutations,
Kind regards,
Alex Weirig
Responsable Technique Ville de Luxembourg Service Enseignement Centre
Technolink *Tel* +352 4796 - 6127 <tel:+35247966127> *Fax* +352 42 88 81
*Email* alex.weirig@technolink.lu <ma...@technolink.lu>
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On 15/12/2020 18:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Matteo Rulli <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hello,
I would like to participate very much indeed.
Thanks,
Matteo
> On 15 Dec 2020, at 18:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Thanks a lot guys for all your interest and positive feedback !
I will send an invite soon.
Thanks !
Regards
JB
> Le 15 déc. 2020 à 18:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> a écrit :
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Oleg Cohen <ol...@assurebridge.com>.
Hi JB,
Great news! This is awesome. I would love to join.
Best regards,
Oleg
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 15, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
Re: [X-Mas Gift] Panel discussion about Karaf 5
Posted by Paul Fraser <pa...@qnenet.com>.
Hi JB,
Please count me in.
Paul Fraser
On 16/12/2020 4:32 am, Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Maybe some of you know that I started to work on Karaf 5.
>
> I have something that it’s almost "usable".
>
> Before sending a global discussion thread on the mailing list, I would like to evaluate the ideas & big changes I did.
>
> I would like to know if some of you would be interested by a panel discussion call to introduce Karaf 5 (limited audience at first step).
>
> The agenda of this call would be:
> 1. Pros/Cons about Karaf as it is today
> 2. Concepts in Karaf 5 (module, extension, …)
> 3. Building & running
> 4. Live demo
>
> It could be recorded/webinar style (not necessary live call) for about 20 people at first step (both Karaf developers and users).
> The purpose is to evaluate the direction.
>
> Thoughts ?
> Who would be interested ?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB