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Posted to legal-discuss@apache.org by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> on 2009/04/09 16:43:00 UTC

Re: Re: Pulling OASIS OpenCSA XSDs into Tuscany?

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Simon Nash <na...@apache.org> wrote:
> Sam Ruby wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Roy T. Fielding <fi...@gbiv.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 9, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Luciano Resende wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Should I take silence as an OK for the OASIS license ?
>>>>
>>>> No.  You should do the work required to find the license and
>>>> read it, and then only if it doesn't match one of the licenses
>>>> already approved do you need to ask here.  It is a waste of other
>>>> peoples' time to just point at a directory and tell us to do
>>>> the work for you.
>>>>
>>>> AFAICT, none of the files in that directory are licensed for
>>>> redistribution.  If you read the SCA spec [a], one might assume
>>>> that they intended the spec license to apply to all of the files
>>>> but, because the only license is specific to "this document".
>>>> You will have to ask OASIS to properly license the files.
>>>> See section 14 of [b].
>>>>
>>>> [a]
>>>>
>>>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-assembly-1.1-spec.html
>>>> [b] http://www.oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.php
>>>>
>>>> After which, they qualify as read-only standards documents.
>>>> We can legally redistribute them, but I don't know if Sam has
>>>> updated the policy to say that yet.
>>>>
>>> Thanks Roy, I'll wait and see if Sam has any other feedback to provide.
>>
>> My read matches Roy's.
>>
>> What I see is text that what you can do with "this document".
>>
>> It then goes on to specifically permit certain types of derivative
>> works ("that comment on or otherwise explain it or assist in its
>> implementation").
>>
>> I'd like to see a license that covers the files in question.
>>
>> - Sam Ruby
>
>>
> The other files will be part of the same OASIS standard as the
> spec document and will have an identical license.  These files
> include XSDs and a zip file containing Java APIs and annotations.
>
> Based on the above discussion, I believe this will be sufficient
> to allow Apache projects to use these files as read only.
>
>  Simon
>
>
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I notice that the OASIS svn repo from whence the SCA 1.1 xsd (and api
and annotation) files come [1] has just been updated with a
license.txt file [2]. From what I can tell it does seem to tally with
what Simon Nash said in this thread about it being the same license as
the specification itself.

Regards

Simon

[1] http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/sca-assembly/SCA_XSDS/
[2] http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/sca-assembly/SCA_XSDS/license.txt

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