Re: "jakarta" name - (?vote?)

["Daniel F. Savarese" <df...@savarese.org>]

In message <bg...@main.gmane.org>, Vic Cekvenich writes:
>This not a topic that anyone wants to bring up:
>Should jakarta.apache.org be changed to xyz.apache.org?
...
>"Jakarta" name has a a bit of political connotations, some PHB might see 
>as negtaive and has had for about a year now.
>A non city name would be better.

Jakarta has no more political connotations than Apache, or Java, or Axis,
and so on.  You cannot do anything about people reading things into names
that aren't there and you shouldn't cater to or be manipulated by other
people's inability to exercise common sense.  Apache Jakarta is a
well-established/recognized brand and changing the name would be silly. 
A project name, whether it references a geographical location, happens to
have an unintended double meaning (which is the case with more than a couple
of Apache projects), or whatever else, is not an endorsement of
attributes/events/etc. surrounding the intended or unintended reference.
Jakarta is a nice play on the name Java for obvious reasons.  Anyone who
chooses to overinterpret the significance of the name doesn't deserve
to be catered to.

daniel



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Re: "jakarta" name - (?vote?)

[Mark Womack <mw...@apache.org>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel F. Savarese" <df...@savarese.org>

> Jakarta has no more political connotations than Apache, or Java, or Axis,
> and so on.  You cannot do anything about people reading things into names
> that aren't there and you shouldn't cater to or be manipulated by other
> people's inability to exercise common sense.  Apache Jakarta is a
> well-established/recognized brand and changing the name would be silly.
> A project name, whether it references a geographical location, happens to
> have an unintended double meaning (which is the case with more than a
couple
> of Apache projects), or whatever else, is not an endorsement of
> attributes/events/etc. surrounding the intended or unintended reference.
> Jakarta is a nice play on the name Java for obvious reasons.  Anyone who
> chooses to overinterpret the significance of the name doesn't deserve
> to be catered to.

+1

> daniel



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Re: "jakarta" name - (?vote?)

[Mark Womack <mw...@apache.org>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel F. Savarese" <df...@savarese.org>

> Jakarta has no more political connotations than Apache, or Java, or Axis,
> and so on.  You cannot do anything about people reading things into names
> that aren't there and you shouldn't cater to or be manipulated by other
> people's inability to exercise common sense.  Apache Jakarta is a
> well-established/recognized brand and changing the name would be silly.
> A project name, whether it references a geographical location, happens to
> have an unintended double meaning (which is the case with more than a
couple
> of Apache projects), or whatever else, is not an endorsement of
> attributes/events/etc. surrounding the intended or unintended reference.
> Jakarta is a nice play on the name Java for obvious reasons.  Anyone who
> chooses to overinterpret the significance of the name doesn't deserve
> to be catered to.

+1

> daniel