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Posted to dev@tomee.apache.org by Aldrin Leal <al...@leal.eng.br> on 2011/05/23 09:32:27 UTC
Idea: Maven Archetypes for OpenEJB
Here is something I've been thinking about two days ago, and pinged about on
twitter do dblevins. However, I'd like your feedback.
I love using OpenEJB. Not only I write articles on it, I simply use it as an
embedded container. Given its ease of use, I figure it would be a great idea
to supply OpenEJB users with a set of M3 Archetypes for quickstart, ranging
from a simple, fully embedded jar for primary development, as well as a full
multimodule project envolving persistence, remoting, ejbs and ears.
I am taking this opportunity to study and learn it, based from trunk.
Meanwhile, here is what I need your advice:
- Which kind of situations you've often found into, which could be mapped
into archetypes?
- Which kind of persistence frameworks do you often use?
- Beside the choice of persistence, which other aspects would you like to
be able to tune from an archetype?
- Which special spices would you like to get, beyond testing? I mean, to
be able to turn into a full geronimo deployable artifact, or another
container, using Archillian with OpenEJB wrapped inside, or simply being
able to tweak properties easily?
Your comments are welcome. Thank you :)
--
-- Aldrin Leal, <al...@leal.eng.br> / http://www.leal.eng.br/mnemetica/
Re: Idea: Maven Archetypes for OpenEJB
Posted by Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>.
I use them a fair bit. Its a personal preference I guess, but if I'm trying
something out, I like to try my own thing with a generated POM to get me
started, rather than hack about someone else's example.
Examples are extremely useful though, and I've always thought the OpenEJB
examples are really great. They're also a great place to start contributing
to the project :)
Jon
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Do you really use ma en archetypes? Personaly examples are more useful.
> - Romain
>
> Le 23 mai 2011 10:26, "Jonathan Gallimore" <jo...@gmail.com>
> a
> écrit :
> > They've been there for a pretty long time. It looks like they should
> work,
> > and basically run the OpenEJB standalone server. I personally haven't
> used
> > them, but it would be great to see them being used as well.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Aldrin Leal <al...@leal.eng.br> wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you. I just noticed there were already some archetypes.
> >>
> >> After that, I noticed the sandboxes also had some OpenEJB Mojos. Any
> >> opinions about it as well?
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> --
> >> -- Aldrin Leal, <al...@leal.eng.br> /
> http://www.leal.eng.br/mnemetica/
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> >> jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Aldrin,
> >> >
> >> > I wrote a couple of Maven Archetypes a while back - one is for a
> simple
> >> > ejb-jar and the other is a multi module ear project, with OpenEJB
> mixed
> >> in
> >> > to do testing. They were based on some generic J2EE archetypes that
> were
> >> > around at the time - not sure if they still are or not.
> >> >
> >> > I also committed an Arquillian adapter for our Tomcat integration
> (known
> >> as
> >> > Apache TomEE) and it should also work for Tomcat 7 on its own as well.
> >> >
> >> > If you fancy taking a look at either of those, any feedback or
> >> improvements
> >> > you have for either will be gratefully received! I'd love to see these
> >> > taken
> >> > further.
> >> >
> >> > This is all in our sandbox area here:
> >> >
> >> > Maven Archetypes:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb/trunk/sandbox/openejb-maven-archetypes/
> >> > Arquillian Adapter:
> >> >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb/trunk/sandbox/arquillian-tomee/
> >> >
> >> > In terms of answering your specific points:
> >> >
> >> > - Which kind of situations you've often found into, which could be
> >> mapped
> >> > into archetypes?
> >> >
> >> > Generally the two mentioned above, the simple jar, and the full ear. I
> >> > think
> >> > an archetype for a web profile .war with ejbs mixed in that runs on
> TomEE
> >> > would be great as well.
> >> >
> >> > - Which kind of persistence frameworks do you often use?
> >> >
> >> > OpenJPA which the default, but Hibernate is really popular as well. We
> >> also
> >> > support EclipseLink, so it might be catering for that too.
> >> >
> >> > - Beside the choice of persistence, which other aspects would you like
> >> to
> >> > be able to tune from an archetype?
> >> >
> >> > Not really given that one much thought to be honest. Running OpenEJB
> >> > embedded in a unit test, most things are configurable using properties
> in
> >> > the test itself. I'd be interested to see what suggestions others
> might
> >> > have.
> >> >
> >> > - Which special spices would you like to get, beyond testing? I mean,
> to
> >> > be able to turn into a full geronimo deployable artifact, or another
> >> > container, using Archillian with OpenEJB wrapped inside, or simply
> being
> >> > able to tweak properties easily?
> >> >
> >> > I'd definitely love to see things being more testable with TomEE,
> which
> >> is
> >> > why did some work on the TomEE Arquillian adapter. Currently TomEE's
> >> config
> >> > in that adapter is very hardcoded, being able to tweak any of that
> >> > including
> >> > the system properties would be a real bonus.
> >> >
> >> > Jon
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Aldrin Leal <al...@leal.eng.br>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Here is something I've been thinking about two days ago, and pinged
> >> about
> >> > > on
> >> > > twitter do dblevins. However, I'd like your feedback.
> >> > >
> >> > > I love using OpenEJB. Not only I write articles on it, I simply use
> it
> >> as
> >> > > an
> >> > > embedded container. Given its ease of use, I figure it would be a
> great
> >> > > idea
> >> > > to supply OpenEJB users with a set of M3 Archetypes for quickstart,
> >> > ranging
> >> > > from a simple, fully embedded jar for primary development, as well
> as
> a
> >> > > full
> >> > > multimodule project envolving persistence, remoting, ejbs and ears.
> >> > >
> >> > > I am taking this opportunity to study and learn it, based from
> trunk.
> >> > > Meanwhile, here is what I need your advice:
> >> > >
> >> > > - Which kind of situations you've often found into, which could be
> >> > mapped
> >> > > into archetypes?
> >> > > - Which kind of persistence frameworks do you often use?
> >> > > - Beside the choice of persistence, which other aspects would you
> >> like
> >> > to
> >> > > be able to tune from an archetype?
> >> > > - Which special spices would you like to get, beyond testing? I
> mean,
> >> > to
> >> > > be able to turn into a full geronimo deployable artifact, or another
> >> > > container, using Archillian with OpenEJB wrapped inside, or simply
> >> > being
> >> > > able to tweak properties easily?
> >> > >
> >> > > Your comments are welcome. Thank you :)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > -- Aldrin Leal, <al...@leal.eng.br> /
> >> http://www.leal.eng.br/mnemetica/
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
Re: Idea: Maven Archetypes for OpenEJB
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Do you really use ma en archetypes? Personaly examples are more useful.
- Romain
Le 23 mai 2011 10:26, "Jonathan Gallimore" <jo...@gmail.com> a
écrit :
> They've been there for a pretty long time. It looks like they should work,
> and basically run the OpenEJB standalone server. I personally haven't used
> them, but it would be great to see them being used as well.
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Aldrin Leal <al...@leal.eng.br> wrote:
>
>> Thank you. I just noticed there were already some archetypes.
>>
>> After that, I noticed the sandboxes also had some OpenEJB Mojos. Any
>> opinions about it as well?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> --
>> -- Aldrin Leal, <al...@leal.eng.br> / http://www.leal.eng.br/mnemetica/
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Jonathan Gallimore <
>> jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Aldrin,
>> >
>> > I wrote a couple of Maven Archetypes a while back - one is for a simple
>> > ejb-jar and the other is a multi module ear project, with OpenEJB mixed
>> in
>> > to do testing. They were based on some generic J2EE archetypes that
were
>> > around at the time - not sure if they still are or not.
>> >
>> > I also committed an Arquillian adapter for our Tomcat integration
(known
>> as
>> > Apache TomEE) and it should also work for Tomcat 7 on its own as well.
>> >
>> > If you fancy taking a look at either of those, any feedback or
>> improvements
>> > you have for either will be gratefully received! I'd love to see these
>> > taken
>> > further.
>> >
>> > This is all in our sandbox area here:
>> >
>> > Maven Archetypes:
>> >
>> >
>>
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb/trunk/sandbox/openejb-maven-archetypes/
>> > Arquillian Adapter:
>> >
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb/trunk/sandbox/arquillian-tomee/
>> >
>> > In terms of answering your specific points:
>> >
>> > - Which kind of situations you've often found into, which could be
>> mapped
>> > into archetypes?
>> >
>> > Generally the two mentioned above, the simple jar, and the full ear. I
>> > think
>> > an archetype for a web profile .war with ejbs mixed in that runs on
TomEE
>> > would be great as well.
>> >
>> > - Which kind of persistence frameworks do you often use?
>> >
>> > OpenJPA which the default, but Hibernate is really popular as well. We
>> also
>> > support EclipseLink, so it might be catering for that too.
>> >
>> > - Beside the choice of persistence, which other aspects would you like
>> to
>> > be able to tune from an archetype?
>> >
>> > Not really given that one much thought to be honest. Running OpenEJB
>> > embedded in a unit test, most things are configurable using properties
in
>> > the test itself. I'd be interested to see what suggestions others might
>> > have.
>> >
>> > - Which special spices would you like to get, beyond testing? I mean,
to
>> > be able to turn into a full geronimo deployable artifact, or another
>> > container, using Archillian with OpenEJB wrapped inside, or simply
being
>> > able to tweak properties easily?
>> >
>> > I'd definitely love to see things being more testable with TomEE, which
>> is
>> > why did some work on the TomEE Arquillian adapter. Currently TomEE's
>> config
>> > in that adapter is very hardcoded, being able to tweak any of that
>> > including
>> > the system properties would be a real bonus.
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Aldrin Leal <al...@leal.eng.br>
wrote:
>> >
>> > > Here is something I've been thinking about two days ago, and pinged
>> about
>> > > on
>> > > twitter do dblevins. However, I'd like your feedback.
>> > >
>> > > I love using OpenEJB. Not only I write articles on it, I simply use
it
>> as
>> > > an
>> > > embedded container. Given its ease of use, I figure it would be a
great
>> > > idea
>> > > to supply OpenEJB users with a set of M3 Archetypes for quickstart,
>> > ranging
>> > > from a simple, fully embedded jar for primary development, as well as
a
>> > > full
>> > > multimodule project envolving persistence, remoting, ejbs and ears.
>> > >
>> > > I am taking this opportunity to study and learn it, based from trunk.
>> > > Meanwhile, here is what I need your advice:
>> > >
>> > > - Which kind of situations you've often found into, which could be
>> > mapped
>> > > into archetypes?
>> > > - Which kind of persistence frameworks do you often use?
>> > > - Beside the choice of persistence, which other aspects would you
>> like
>> > to
>> > > be able to tune from an archetype?
>> > > - Which special spices would you like to get, beyond testing? I mean,
>> > to
>> > > be able to turn into a full geronimo deployable artifact, or another
>> > > container, using Archillian with OpenEJB wrapped inside, or simply
>> > being
>> > > able to tweak properties easily?
>> > >
>> > > Your comments are welcome. Thank you :)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > -- Aldrin Leal, <al...@leal.eng.br> /
>> http://www.leal.eng.br/mnemetica/
>> > >
>> >
>>
Re: Idea: Maven Archetypes for OpenEJB
Posted by Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>.
They've been there for a pretty long time. It looks like they should work,
and basically run the OpenEJB standalone server. I personally haven't used
them, but it would be great to see them being used as well.
Jon
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Aldrin Leal <al...@leal.eng.br> wrote:
> Thank you. I just noticed there were already some archetypes.
>
> After that, I noticed the sandboxes also had some OpenEJB Mojos. Any
> opinions about it as well?
>
> Thank you
>
> --
> -- Aldrin Leal, <al...@leal.eng.br> / http://www.leal.eng.br/mnemetica/
>
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Aldrin,
> >
> > I wrote a couple of Maven Archetypes a while back - one is for a simple
> > ejb-jar and the other is a multi module ear project, with OpenEJB mixed
> in
> > to do testing. They were based on some generic J2EE archetypes that were
> > around at the time - not sure if they still are or not.
> >
> > I also committed an Arquillian adapter for our Tomcat integration (known
> as
> > Apache TomEE) and it should also work for Tomcat 7 on its own as well.
> >
> > If you fancy taking a look at either of those, any feedback or
> improvements
> > you have for either will be gratefully received! I'd love to see these
> > taken
> > further.
> >
> > This is all in our sandbox area here:
> >
> > Maven Archetypes:
> >
> >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb/trunk/sandbox/openejb-maven-archetypes/
> > Arquillian Adapter:
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb/trunk/sandbox/arquillian-tomee/
> >
> > In terms of answering your specific points:
> >
> > - Which kind of situations you've often found into, which could be
> mapped
> > into archetypes?
> >
> > Generally the two mentioned above, the simple jar, and the full ear. I
> > think
> > an archetype for a web profile .war with ejbs mixed in that runs on TomEE
> > would be great as well.
> >
> > - Which kind of persistence frameworks do you often use?
> >
> > OpenJPA which the default, but Hibernate is really popular as well. We
> also
> > support EclipseLink, so it might be catering for that too.
> >
> > - Beside the choice of persistence, which other aspects would you like
> to
> > be able to tune from an archetype?
> >
> > Not really given that one much thought to be honest. Running OpenEJB
> > embedded in a unit test, most things are configurable using properties in
> > the test itself. I'd be interested to see what suggestions others might
> > have.
> >
> > - Which special spices would you like to get, beyond testing? I mean, to
> > be able to turn into a full geronimo deployable artifact, or another
> > container, using Archillian with OpenEJB wrapped inside, or simply being
> > able to tweak properties easily?
> >
> > I'd definitely love to see things being more testable with TomEE, which
> is
> > why did some work on the TomEE Arquillian adapter. Currently TomEE's
> config
> > in that adapter is very hardcoded, being able to tweak any of that
> > including
> > the system properties would be a real bonus.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Aldrin Leal <al...@leal.eng.br> wrote:
> >
> > > Here is something I've been thinking about two days ago, and pinged
> about
> > > on
> > > twitter do dblevins. However, I'd like your feedback.
> > >
> > > I love using OpenEJB. Not only I write articles on it, I simply use it
> as
> > > an
> > > embedded container. Given its ease of use, I figure it would be a great
> > > idea
> > > to supply OpenEJB users with a set of M3 Archetypes for quickstart,
> > ranging
> > > from a simple, fully embedded jar for primary development, as well as a
> > > full
> > > multimodule project envolving persistence, remoting, ejbs and ears.
> > >
> > > I am taking this opportunity to study and learn it, based from trunk.
> > > Meanwhile, here is what I need your advice:
> > >
> > > - Which kind of situations you've often found into, which could be
> > mapped
> > > into archetypes?
> > > - Which kind of persistence frameworks do you often use?
> > > - Beside the choice of persistence, which other aspects would you
> like
> > to
> > > be able to tune from an archetype?
> > > - Which special spices would you like to get, beyond testing? I mean,
> > to
> > > be able to turn into a full geronimo deployable artifact, or another
> > > container, using Archillian with OpenEJB wrapped inside, or simply
> > being
> > > able to tweak properties easily?
> > >
> > > Your comments are welcome. Thank you :)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -- Aldrin Leal, <al...@leal.eng.br> /
> http://www.leal.eng.br/mnemetica/
> > >
> >
>
Re: Idea: Maven Archetypes for OpenEJB
Posted by Aldrin Leal <al...@leal.eng.br>.
Thank you. I just noticed there were already some archetypes.
After that, I noticed the sandboxes also had some OpenEJB Mojos. Any
opinions about it as well?
Thank you
--
-- Aldrin Leal, <al...@leal.eng.br> / http://www.leal.eng.br/mnemetica/
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Jonathan Gallimore <
jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Aldrin,
>
> I wrote a couple of Maven Archetypes a while back - one is for a simple
> ejb-jar and the other is a multi module ear project, with OpenEJB mixed in
> to do testing. They were based on some generic J2EE archetypes that were
> around at the time - not sure if they still are or not.
>
> I also committed an Arquillian adapter for our Tomcat integration (known as
> Apache TomEE) and it should also work for Tomcat 7 on its own as well.
>
> If you fancy taking a look at either of those, any feedback or improvements
> you have for either will be gratefully received! I'd love to see these
> taken
> further.
>
> This is all in our sandbox area here:
>
> Maven Archetypes:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb/trunk/sandbox/openejb-maven-archetypes/
> Arquillian Adapter:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb/trunk/sandbox/arquillian-tomee/
>
> In terms of answering your specific points:
>
> - Which kind of situations you've often found into, which could be mapped
> into archetypes?
>
> Generally the two mentioned above, the simple jar, and the full ear. I
> think
> an archetype for a web profile .war with ejbs mixed in that runs on TomEE
> would be great as well.
>
> - Which kind of persistence frameworks do you often use?
>
> OpenJPA which the default, but Hibernate is really popular as well. We also
> support EclipseLink, so it might be catering for that too.
>
> - Beside the choice of persistence, which other aspects would you like to
> be able to tune from an archetype?
>
> Not really given that one much thought to be honest. Running OpenEJB
> embedded in a unit test, most things are configurable using properties in
> the test itself. I'd be interested to see what suggestions others might
> have.
>
> - Which special spices would you like to get, beyond testing? I mean, to
> be able to turn into a full geronimo deployable artifact, or another
> container, using Archillian with OpenEJB wrapped inside, or simply being
> able to tweak properties easily?
>
> I'd definitely love to see things being more testable with TomEE, which is
> why did some work on the TomEE Arquillian adapter. Currently TomEE's config
> in that adapter is very hardcoded, being able to tweak any of that
> including
> the system properties would be a real bonus.
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Aldrin Leal <al...@leal.eng.br> wrote:
>
> > Here is something I've been thinking about two days ago, and pinged about
> > on
> > twitter do dblevins. However, I'd like your feedback.
> >
> > I love using OpenEJB. Not only I write articles on it, I simply use it as
> > an
> > embedded container. Given its ease of use, I figure it would be a great
> > idea
> > to supply OpenEJB users with a set of M3 Archetypes for quickstart,
> ranging
> > from a simple, fully embedded jar for primary development, as well as a
> > full
> > multimodule project envolving persistence, remoting, ejbs and ears.
> >
> > I am taking this opportunity to study and learn it, based from trunk.
> > Meanwhile, here is what I need your advice:
> >
> > - Which kind of situations you've often found into, which could be
> mapped
> > into archetypes?
> > - Which kind of persistence frameworks do you often use?
> > - Beside the choice of persistence, which other aspects would you like
> to
> > be able to tune from an archetype?
> > - Which special spices would you like to get, beyond testing? I mean,
> to
> > be able to turn into a full geronimo deployable artifact, or another
> > container, using Archillian with OpenEJB wrapped inside, or simply
> being
> > able to tweak properties easily?
> >
> > Your comments are welcome. Thank you :)
> >
> >
> > --
> > -- Aldrin Leal, <al...@leal.eng.br> / http://www.leal.eng.br/mnemetica/
> >
>
Re: Idea: Maven Archetypes for OpenEJB
Posted by Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>.
Hi Aldrin,
I wrote a couple of Maven Archetypes a while back - one is for a simple
ejb-jar and the other is a multi module ear project, with OpenEJB mixed in
to do testing. They were based on some generic J2EE archetypes that were
around at the time - not sure if they still are or not.
I also committed an Arquillian adapter for our Tomcat integration (known as
Apache TomEE) and it should also work for Tomcat 7 on its own as well.
If you fancy taking a look at either of those, any feedback or improvements
you have for either will be gratefully received! I'd love to see these taken
further.
This is all in our sandbox area here:
Maven Archetypes:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb/trunk/sandbox/openejb-maven-archetypes/
Arquillian Adapter:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb/trunk/sandbox/arquillian-tomee/
In terms of answering your specific points:
- Which kind of situations you've often found into, which could be mapped
into archetypes?
Generally the two mentioned above, the simple jar, and the full ear. I think
an archetype for a web profile .war with ejbs mixed in that runs on TomEE
would be great as well.
- Which kind of persistence frameworks do you often use?
OpenJPA which the default, but Hibernate is really popular as well. We also
support EclipseLink, so it might be catering for that too.
- Beside the choice of persistence, which other aspects would you like to
be able to tune from an archetype?
Not really given that one much thought to be honest. Running OpenEJB
embedded in a unit test, most things are configurable using properties in
the test itself. I'd be interested to see what suggestions others might
have.
- Which special spices would you like to get, beyond testing? I mean, to
be able to turn into a full geronimo deployable artifact, or another
container, using Archillian with OpenEJB wrapped inside, or simply being
able to tweak properties easily?
I'd definitely love to see things being more testable with TomEE, which is
why did some work on the TomEE Arquillian adapter. Currently TomEE's config
in that adapter is very hardcoded, being able to tweak any of that including
the system properties would be a real bonus.
Jon
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Aldrin Leal <al...@leal.eng.br> wrote:
> Here is something I've been thinking about two days ago, and pinged about
> on
> twitter do dblevins. However, I'd like your feedback.
>
> I love using OpenEJB. Not only I write articles on it, I simply use it as
> an
> embedded container. Given its ease of use, I figure it would be a great
> idea
> to supply OpenEJB users with a set of M3 Archetypes for quickstart, ranging
> from a simple, fully embedded jar for primary development, as well as a
> full
> multimodule project envolving persistence, remoting, ejbs and ears.
>
> I am taking this opportunity to study and learn it, based from trunk.
> Meanwhile, here is what I need your advice:
>
> - Which kind of situations you've often found into, which could be mapped
> into archetypes?
> - Which kind of persistence frameworks do you often use?
> - Beside the choice of persistence, which other aspects would you like to
> be able to tune from an archetype?
> - Which special spices would you like to get, beyond testing? I mean, to
> be able to turn into a full geronimo deployable artifact, or another
> container, using Archillian with OpenEJB wrapped inside, or simply being
> able to tweak properties easily?
>
> Your comments are welcome. Thank you :)
>
>
> --
> -- Aldrin Leal, <al...@leal.eng.br> / http://www.leal.eng.br/mnemetica/
>