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Posted to dev@poi.apache.org by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> on 2003/06/27 14:02:11 UTC
[VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Hi All,
Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail format
reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do some
footwork, please help with this)
2. GPL license is changed to ASL
3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active committer
within a 4 month period.
6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding conventions
including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be considered
inactive and be backed out.
Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a project
which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to ensure
we keep our reputation for quality.
-Andy
PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
--
Andrew C. Oliver
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
For Java and Excel, Got POI?
Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by Ryan Ackley <sa...@cfl.rr.com>.
+1
Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
My humble idea : [ H T M F ]
<<Horrible and *Terrible* Mail Format>>
... This reminds me of "HTML", which format is the default settings
of Outlook .. it's really terrible :-)
P.S. No need to stick to it.
-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:19:37 +0200
(Subject: Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format))
"A. Rothman" <am...@amichais.net> wrote:
> 10x Andy - though I think it's a good idea to hear all the suggestions
> (regarding everything, actually) before going online - it would be nice to
> get it right the first time around :)
Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by "A. Rothman" <am...@amichais.net>.
10x Andy - though I think it's a good idea to hear all the suggestions
(regarding everything, actually) before going online - it would be nice to
get it right the first time around :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>; "Tetsuya Kitahata"
<te...@apache.org>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
> Note: I mostly planned to leave the naming to him. I only plan to veto
> anything which could get us into trademark trouble.
>
> On 6/27/03 8:21 AM, "Tetsuya Kitahata" <te...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Here's my +1.
> >
> > Welcome Mr. Rothman and TNEF.
> >
> > -- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
> >
> > P.S. Please re-vote for the naming of TNEF, after this vote would
> > be ended and accepted.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:02:11 -0400
> > (Subject: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format))
> > "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail format
> >> reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
> >>
> >> 1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do
some
> >> footwork, please help with this)
> >>
> >> 2. GPL license is changed to ASL
> >>
> >> 3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
> >>
> >> 4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
> >>
> >> 5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active
committer
> >> within a 4 month period.
> >>
> >> 6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding
conventions
> >> including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be
considered
> >> inactive and be backed out.
> >>
> >> Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a
project
> >> which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to
ensure
> >> we keep our reputation for quality.
> >>
> >> -Andy
> >>
> >> PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
> >> --
> >> Andrew C. Oliver
> >> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
> >> Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
> >>
> >> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
> >> For Java and Excel, Got POI?
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------
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> > E-mail: kitahata@bb.mbn.or.jp : tetsuya@apache.org
> > http://www.terra-intl.com/
> > (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese)
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> >
> >
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>
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> Andrew C. Oliver
> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
> Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
> For Java and Excel, Got POI?
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Note: I mostly planned to leave the naming to him. I only plan to veto
anything which could get us into trademark trouble.
On 6/27/03 8:21 AM, "Tetsuya Kitahata" <te...@apache.org> wrote:
> Here's my +1.
>
> Welcome Mr. Rothman and TNEF.
>
> -- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
>
> P.S. Please re-vote for the naming of TNEF, after this vote would
> be ended and accepted.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:02:11 -0400
> (Subject: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format))
> "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail format
>> reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
>>
>> 1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do some
>> footwork, please help with this)
>>
>> 2. GPL license is changed to ASL
>>
>> 3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
>>
>> 4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
>>
>> 5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active committer
>> within a 4 month period.
>>
>> 6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding conventions
>> including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be considered
>> inactive and be backed out.
>>
>> Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a project
>> which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to ensure
>> we keep our reputation for quality.
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>> PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
>> --
>> Andrew C. Oliver
>> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
>> Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
>>
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
>> For Java and Excel, Got POI?
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: poi-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: poi-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
> E-mail: kitahata@bb.mbn.or.jp : tetsuya@apache.org
> http://www.terra-intl.com/
> (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese)
> http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/
>
>
>
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>
--
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http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
For Java and Excel, Got POI?
Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
Here's my +1.
Welcome Mr. Rothman and TNEF.
-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
P.S. Please re-vote for the naming of TNEF, after this vote would
be ended and accepted.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:02:11 -0400
(Subject: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format))
"Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail format
> reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
>
> 1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do some
> footwork, please help with this)
>
> 2. GPL license is changed to ASL
>
> 3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
>
> 4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
>
> 5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active committer
> within a 4 month period.
>
> 6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding conventions
> including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be considered
> inactive and be backed out.
>
> Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a project
> which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to ensure
> we keep our reputation for quality.
>
> -Andy
>
> PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
> --
> Andrew C. Oliver
> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
> Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
> For Java and Excel, Got POI?
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: poi-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: poi-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
-----------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: kitahata@bb.mbn.or.jp : tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
(Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese)
http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/
Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by Danny Mui <da...@muibros.com>.
+1 woohoo more reverse engineering goodness ;)
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail format
>reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
>
>1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do some
>footwork, please help with this)
>
>2. GPL license is changed to ASL
>
>3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
>
>4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
>
>5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active committer
>within a 4 month period.
>
>6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding conventions
>including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be considered
>inactive and be backed out.
>
>Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a project
>which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to ensure
>we keep our reputation for quality.
>
>-Andy
>
>PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
>
>
Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
On 6/27/03 10:04 AM, "A. Rothman" <am...@amichais.net> wrote:
> The main package is dependant on the JDK alone.
>
> The mime subpackage uses Sun's JavaMail. This is more of an experiment to
> see how it might fit in comfortably with JavaMail, and I'm hoping to see
> some input as to if and where this extension should go.
>
> About the 4 month issue, and as I tried explaining a few mails ago, there is
> an issue of how much work is left to be done...unlike HSSF, whose specs look
> like they will keep on changing and shifting to new records and bytes and
> bits ad infinitum, the TNEF format seems to remain constant. So what happens
> if after some initial work/bugfixes/API changes/tests it settles down to a
> stable release and is happily used by developers but no special enhancements
> are needed? This is most probably just wishful thinking :) but perhaps
> should be considered before tearing it down after a while...just a thought.
>
Of course, we're pragmatic... Its just "dump and run" -- the committers all
understand the intent ;-)
> Amichai
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
> To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:02 PM
> Subject: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail format
>> reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
>>
>> 1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do some
>> footwork, please help with this)
>>
>> 2. GPL license is changed to ASL
>>
>> 3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
>>
>> 4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
>>
>> 5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active
> committer
>> within a 4 month period.
>>
>> 6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding conventions
>> including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be considered
>> inactive and be backed out.
>>
>> Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a project
>> which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to ensure
>> we keep our reputation for quality.
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>> PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
>> --
>> Andrew C. Oliver
>> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
>> Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
>>
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
>> For Java and Excel, Got POI?
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: poi-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: poi-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
>>
>
>
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>
--
Andrew C. Oliver
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
For Java and Excel, Got POI?
Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by "A. Rothman" <am...@amichais.net>.
JAMES distributes it.
The main TNEF/HMMF(Horrible Mail Mangling Format?)/HTMF package is not
dependant on it, in any case.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
> See if JAMES is distributing it. If they are...we can. If they aren't,
we
> can't.
>
> optional: build succeeds with out it, build/code can use if its present
>
> -andy
>
> On 6/27/03 10:40 AM, "A. Rothman" <am...@amichais.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm not fluent in legalese....any idea if it can coexist with ASF ?
> > http://java.sun.com/products/javamail/LICENSE.txt
> >
> > What exactly do u mean by making it optional? I suppose it already is -
it's
> > a separate package, and is not necessary in order to process any TNEF
> > message. is this enough? I actually don't mind dropping it altogether if
> > there's a problem, but it will save some duplicate code for JavaMail
users
> > for extracting the TNEF out of the MimeMessage etc. Or maybe we can just
> > leave it as sample usage code in the docs.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
> > To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 3:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
> >
> >
> >> On 6/27/03 10:04 AM, "A. Rothman" <am...@amichais.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The main package is dependant on the JDK alone.
> >>>
> >>> The mime subpackage uses Sun's JavaMail. This is more of an experiment
> > to
> >>> see how it might fit in comfortably with JavaMail, and I'm hoping to
see
> >>> some input as to if and where this extension should go.
> >>>
> >>
> >> IIRC, Javamail has an evil license... Make it optional.
> >>
> >>> About the 4 month issue, and as I tried explaining a few mails ago,
> > there is
> >>> an issue of how much work is left to be done...unlike HSSF, whose
specs
> > look
> >>> like they will keep on changing and shifting to new records and bytes
> > and
> >>> bits ad infinitum, the TNEF format seems to remain constant. So what
> > happens
> >>> if after some initial work/bugfixes/API changes/tests it settles down
to
> > a
> >>> stable release and is happily used by developers but no special
> > enhancements
> >>> are needed? This is most probably just wishful thinking :) but perhaps
> >>> should be considered before tearing it down after a while...just a
> > thought.
> >>>
> >>> Amichai
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
> >>> To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:02 PM
> >>> Subject: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail
format
> >>>> reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do
> > some
> >>>> footwork, please help with this)
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. GPL license is changed to ASL
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
> >>>>
> >>>> 4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
> >>>>
> >>>> 5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active
> >>> committer
> >>>> within a 4 month period.
> >>>>
> >>>> 6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding
> > conventions
> >>>> including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be
> > considered
> >>>> inactive and be backed out.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a
> > project
> >>>> which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to
> > ensure
> >>>> we keep our reputation for quality.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Andy
> >>>>
> >>>> PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
> >>>> --
> >>>> Andrew C. Oliver
> >>>> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
> >>>> Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
> >>>>
> >>>> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
> >>>> For Java and Excel, Got POI?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: poi-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: poi-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Andrew C. Oliver
> >> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
> >> Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
> >>
> >> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
> >> For Java and Excel, Got POI?
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: poi-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
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> >>
> >
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> >
>
> --
> Andrew C. Oliver
> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
> Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
> For Java and Excel, Got POI?
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
See if JAMES is distributing it. If they are...we can. If they aren't, we
can't.
optional: build succeeds with out it, build/code can use if its present
-andy
On 6/27/03 10:40 AM, "A. Rothman" <am...@amichais.net> wrote:
> I'm not fluent in legalese....any idea if it can coexist with ASF ?
> http://java.sun.com/products/javamail/LICENSE.txt
>
> What exactly do u mean by making it optional? I suppose it already is - it's
> a separate package, and is not necessary in order to process any TNEF
> message. is this enough? I actually don't mind dropping it altogether if
> there's a problem, but it will save some duplicate code for JavaMail users
> for extracting the TNEF out of the MimeMessage etc. Or maybe we can just
> leave it as sample usage code in the docs.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
> To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
>
>
>> On 6/27/03 10:04 AM, "A. Rothman" <am...@amichais.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The main package is dependant on the JDK alone.
>>>
>>> The mime subpackage uses Sun's JavaMail. This is more of an experiment
> to
>>> see how it might fit in comfortably with JavaMail, and I'm hoping to see
>>> some input as to if and where this extension should go.
>>>
>>
>> IIRC, Javamail has an evil license... Make it optional.
>>
>>> About the 4 month issue, and as I tried explaining a few mails ago,
> there is
>>> an issue of how much work is left to be done...unlike HSSF, whose specs
> look
>>> like they will keep on changing and shifting to new records and bytes
> and
>>> bits ad infinitum, the TNEF format seems to remain constant. So what
> happens
>>> if after some initial work/bugfixes/API changes/tests it settles down to
> a
>>> stable release and is happily used by developers but no special
> enhancements
>>> are needed? This is most probably just wishful thinking :) but perhaps
>>> should be considered before tearing it down after a while...just a
> thought.
>>>
>>> Amichai
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
>>> To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:02 PM
>>> Subject: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail format
>>>> reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do
> some
>>>> footwork, please help with this)
>>>>
>>>> 2. GPL license is changed to ASL
>>>>
>>>> 3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
>>>>
>>>> 4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
>>>>
>>>> 5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active
>>> committer
>>>> within a 4 month period.
>>>>
>>>> 6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding
> conventions
>>>> including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be
> considered
>>>> inactive and be backed out.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a
> project
>>>> which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to
> ensure
>>>> we keep our reputation for quality.
>>>>
>>>> -Andy
>>>>
>>>> PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew C. Oliver
>>>> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
>>>> Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
>>>>
>>>> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
>>>> For Java and Excel, Got POI?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: poi-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: poi-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: poi-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: poi-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew C. Oliver
>> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
>> Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
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Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by "A. Rothman" <am...@amichais.net>.
I'm not fluent in legalese....any idea if it can coexist with ASF ?
http://java.sun.com/products/javamail/LICENSE.txt
What exactly do u mean by making it optional? I suppose it already is - it's
a separate package, and is not necessary in order to process any TNEF
message. is this enough? I actually don't mind dropping it altogether if
there's a problem, but it will save some duplicate code for JavaMail users
for extracting the TNEF out of the MimeMessage etc. Or maybe we can just
leave it as sample usage code in the docs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
> On 6/27/03 10:04 AM, "A. Rothman" <am...@amichais.net> wrote:
>
> > The main package is dependant on the JDK alone.
> >
> > The mime subpackage uses Sun's JavaMail. This is more of an experiment
to
> > see how it might fit in comfortably with JavaMail, and I'm hoping to see
> > some input as to if and where this extension should go.
> >
>
> IIRC, Javamail has an evil license... Make it optional.
>
> > About the 4 month issue, and as I tried explaining a few mails ago,
there is
> > an issue of how much work is left to be done...unlike HSSF, whose specs
look
> > like they will keep on changing and shifting to new records and bytes
and
> > bits ad infinitum, the TNEF format seems to remain constant. So what
happens
> > if after some initial work/bugfixes/API changes/tests it settles down to
a
> > stable release and is happily used by developers but no special
enhancements
> > are needed? This is most probably just wishful thinking :) but perhaps
> > should be considered before tearing it down after a while...just a
thought.
> >
> > Amichai
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
> > To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:02 PM
> > Subject: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
> >
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail format
> >> reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
> >>
> >> 1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do
some
> >> footwork, please help with this)
> >>
> >> 2. GPL license is changed to ASL
> >>
> >> 3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
> >>
> >> 4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
> >>
> >> 5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active
> > committer
> >> within a 4 month period.
> >>
> >> 6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding
conventions
> >> including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be
considered
> >> inactive and be backed out.
> >>
> >> Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a
project
> >> which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to
ensure
> >> we keep our reputation for quality.
> >>
> >> -Andy
> >>
> >> PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
> >> --
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> >> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
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> >>
> >> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
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Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
On 6/27/03 10:04 AM, "A. Rothman" <am...@amichais.net> wrote:
> The main package is dependant on the JDK alone.
>
> The mime subpackage uses Sun's JavaMail. This is more of an experiment to
> see how it might fit in comfortably with JavaMail, and I'm hoping to see
> some input as to if and where this extension should go.
>
IIRC, Javamail has an evil license... Make it optional.
> About the 4 month issue, and as I tried explaining a few mails ago, there is
> an issue of how much work is left to be done...unlike HSSF, whose specs look
> like they will keep on changing and shifting to new records and bytes and
> bits ad infinitum, the TNEF format seems to remain constant. So what happens
> if after some initial work/bugfixes/API changes/tests it settles down to a
> stable release and is happily used by developers but no special enhancements
> are needed? This is most probably just wishful thinking :) but perhaps
> should be considered before tearing it down after a while...just a thought.
>
> Amichai
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
> To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:02 PM
> Subject: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail format
>> reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
>>
>> 1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do some
>> footwork, please help with this)
>>
>> 2. GPL license is changed to ASL
>>
>> 3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
>>
>> 4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
>>
>> 5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active
> committer
>> within a 4 month period.
>>
>> 6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding conventions
>> including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be considered
>> inactive and be backed out.
>>
>> Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a project
>> which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to ensure
>> we keep our reputation for quality.
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>> PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
>> --
>> Andrew C. Oliver
>> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
>> Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
>>
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
>> For Java and Excel, Got POI?
>>
>>
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Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by "A. Rothman" <am...@amichais.net>.
The main package is dependant on the JDK alone.
The mime subpackage uses Sun's JavaMail. This is more of an experiment to
see how it might fit in comfortably with JavaMail, and I'm hoping to see
some input as to if and where this extension should go.
About the 4 month issue, and as I tried explaining a few mails ago, there is
an issue of how much work is left to be done...unlike HSSF, whose specs look
like they will keep on changing and shifting to new records and bytes and
bits ad infinitum, the TNEF format seems to remain constant. So what happens
if after some initial work/bugfixes/API changes/tests it settles down to a
stable release and is happily used by developers but no special enhancements
are needed? This is most probably just wishful thinking :) but perhaps
should be considered before tearing it down after a while...just a thought.
Amichai
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
To: "POI Developers List" <po...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:02 PM
Subject: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
> Hi All,
>
> Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail format
> reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
>
> 1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do some
> footwork, please help with this)
>
> 2. GPL license is changed to ASL
>
> 3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
>
> 4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
>
> 5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active
committer
> within a 4 month period.
>
> 6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding conventions
> including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be considered
> inactive and be backed out.
>
> Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a project
> which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to ensure
> we keep our reputation for quality.
>
> -Andy
>
> PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
> --
> Andrew C. Oliver
> http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
> Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
> For Java and Excel, Got POI?
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by Avik Sengupta <av...@apache.org>.
+1
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 17:32, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail format
> reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
>
> 1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do some
> footwork, please help with this)
>
> 2. GPL license is changed to ASL
>
> 3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
>
> 4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
>
> 5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active committer
> within a 4 month period.
>
> 6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding conventions
> including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be considered
> inactive and be backed out.
>
> Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a project
> which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to ensure
> we keep our reputation for quality.
>
> -Andy
>
> PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
--
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Re: [VOTE] - POI TNEF contribution (Mail format)
Posted by Glen Stampoultzis <gs...@iinet.net.au>.
+1
At 10:02 PM 27/06/2003, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Please signify your vote for accepting TNEF into POI. (M$ mail format
>reader). The code should be accepted under the following conditions:
>
>1. All code is legal and free of unacceptable restriction (I'll go do some
>footwork, please help with this)
>
>2. GPL license is changed to ASL
>
>3. No illegal dependencies (via ASF policy)
>
>4. contributor agreement for Mr. Rothman is faxed in
>
>5. The code will be automatically backed out if there is no active committer
>within a 4 month period.
>
>6. The code must conform to, be made to conform to POI coding conventions
>including unit tests within a period of 6 months or it will be considered
>inactive and be backed out.
>
>Sorry for being so legalistic, just we're in the hot seat being a project
>which is more or less against M$'s interests. Secondly, we want to ensure
>we keep our reputation for quality.
>
>-Andy
>
>PS vote ends Sunday 8:00a EDT (12:00p GMT)
>--
>Andrew C. Oliver
>http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp
>Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
>
>http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
>For Java and Excel, Got POI?
>
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