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If your evaluating new template engines, what about ZipScript

Hello,

With all the talk about GXP, I wanted to let you know about another
template engine called ZipScript (zipscript.org).

Ok, you're probably saying... another one??? but this has some
distinct advantages and I would love for you to give it a try - I
really think you'll be happy you did.

1) it can be used to create complex UI components
2) it has a powerful non XML-based syntax (which is helpful since the
most common output is XML)
3) it can also be used to get more than just text from expressions
(like booleans or objects) - great for having smarter config
properties


Here are some quick links:
- homepage:
         http://zipscript.googlecode.com
- Yahoo! UI macro examples:
         http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/YUIMacros
- Language Syntax Examples
         http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/SyntaxExamples

Thanks

Joe Hudson

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Re: If your evaluating new template engines, what about ZipScript

Posted by Joe Hudson <jo...@gmail.com>.
Thank you for your feedback Al.

While you can't see the code in action with a deployed application,
you can view some of the unit test/scripts/output (there are more)
with the following links:

- if directive
  - test case: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/DirectiveTestCase.java#108
  - zipscript code:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/if_test.zs
  - merged output:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/if_result.txt

- foreach directive
  - test case: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/DirectiveTestCase.java#38
  - zipscript code:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/foreach_test.zs
  - merged output:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/foreach_result.txt

- while directive
  - test case: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/DirectiveTestCase.java#80
  - zipscript code:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/while_test.zs
  - merged output:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/while_result.txt

- set directive
  - test case: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/DirectiveTestCase.java#134
  - zipscript code:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/foreach_test.zs
  - merged output:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/foreach_result.txt

- import directive
  - test case: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/DirectiveTestCase.java#94
  - zipscript code:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/import_test.zs
  - macro libraries:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/imports
  - merged output:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/import_result.txt

- include directive
  - test case: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/DirectiveTestCase.java#86
  - zipscript code:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/include_test.zs
  - include templates:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates#templates/includes/foo
  - merged output:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/include_result.txt

evaluating booleans:
  - test case: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/BooleanTestCase.java

evaluating objects:
  - test case:
      - http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/ListTestCase.java
      - http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/MathTestCase.java

logic
  - test case: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/LogicTestCase.java

variables
  - test case: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/VariableTestCase.java
  - zipscript code:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/variable_simple_test.zs
  - merged output:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/variable_simple_result.txt
  - special methods:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/SpecialMethodsTestCase.java
      - defaults:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/VariableDefaultsTestCase.java
      - formatting:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/VariableFormattingTestCase.java

XML
  - test case: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/XMLTestCase.java
  - XML input: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/xml_input.xml
  - zipscript code:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/xml_test.zs
  - merged output:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/xml_result.txt

macros
  - test case: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/MacroTestCase.java
  - zipscript code 1:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/macro_test.zs
  - merged output 1:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/macro_result.txt
  - zipscript code 2:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/macro_common_test.zs
  - merged output 2:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/macro_common_result.txt
  - zipscript code 3:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/macro_nesting_test.zs
  - merged output 3:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/macro_nesting_result.txt
  - zipscript code 4:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/macro_fulltest_test.zs
  - merged output 4:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates/macro_fulltest_result.txt



On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Al Sutton <al...@alsutton.com> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> My advice would be to spend some time writing demo apps and deploying them
> on some servers, that way people can see the library in action.
>
> S2 has a wide user base and so (imho) we can't afford to take risks by
> dedicating time to converting the core templates to work on an unproven
> library when we have a fully tested alternative.
>
> Al.
>
> Joe Hudson wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to evaluate zipscript.
>>
>> This is not currently being used in any real world apps because it is
>> new.  That is certainly a valid concern.  It is kind of a catch 22
>> because how can you ever be used in a real world app if people only
>> want an engine that is being used in a real world app?
>>
>> Anyway, I'd like to address my assumption of your main concerns
>> regarding real world app usage:
>>
>> 1) Is it reliable?
>> All of the functionality is unit tested before a release is performed
>> and there are many unit tests which can be seen here:
>> - Unit Tests:
>> http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/#svn/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript
>> - Referenced Templates and Results:
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/#svn/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates
>>
>> 2) How does it perform?
>> There is a unit test that merges a template consisting of multiple
>> macro references (called PerformanceTest)
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/PerformanceTestCase.java
>> This test, when performed on my laptop, can perform 1000 merges in
>> about 1 second.
>>
>>
>> As to the other issues of porting to other languages.  That isn't
>> currently in the plan now but certainly would be something on the
>> plate if this language got a foothold.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For me, it's the "real world apps", *plus* the interest in porting GXP
>>> to other platforms, like C++, and Ruby. Personally, I'd like to add C#
>>> to that list. ASPX, like JSF, has its charms, but many .NET developers
>>> (including me) would like alternatives.
>>>
>>> I do find the zipscript YUI examples interesting, since we are also
>>> looking for an alternative approach to supporting Ajax with the Struts
>>> tags.
>>>
>>> -Ted.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Al Sutton <al...@alsutton.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>> My main reason for backing GXP is that it's been used in high volume
>>>> "real
>>>> world" apps by Google and so has been proven to scale.
>>>>
>>>> Does ZipScript have the same real world testing, and if so where is it
>>>> used?
>>>>
>>>> Al.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe Hudson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> With all the talk about GXP, I wanted to let you know about another
>>>>> template engine called ZipScript (zipscript.org).
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, you're probably saying... another one??? but this has some
>>>>> distinct advantages and I would love for you to give it a try - I
>>>>> really think you'll be happy you did.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) it can be used to create complex UI components
>>>>> 2) it has a powerful non XML-based syntax (which is helpful since the
>>>>> most common output is XML)
>>>>> 3) it can also be used to get more than just text from expressions
>>>>> (like booleans or objects) - great for having smarter config
>>>>> properties
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some quick links:
>>>>> - homepage:
>>>>>        http://zipscript.googlecode.com
>>>>> - Yahoo! UI macro examples:
>>>>>        http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/YUIMacros
>>>>> - Language Syntax Examples
>>>>>        http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/SyntaxExamples
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Hudson
>>>>>
>>>
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Re: If your evaluating new template engines, what about ZipScript

Posted by Al Sutton <al...@alsutton.com>.
Joe,

My advice would be to spend some time writing demo apps and deploying 
them on some servers, that way people can see the library in action.

S2 has a wide user base and so (imho) we can't afford to take risks by 
dedicating time to converting the core templates to work on an unproven 
library when we have a fully tested alternative.

Al.

Joe Hudson wrote:
> Thank you for taking the time to evaluate zipscript.
>
> This is not currently being used in any real world apps because it is
> new.  That is certainly a valid concern.  It is kind of a catch 22
> because how can you ever be used in a real world app if people only
> want an engine that is being used in a real world app?
>
> Anyway, I'd like to address my assumption of your main concerns
> regarding real world app usage:
>
> 1) Is it reliable?
> All of the functionality is unit tested before a release is performed
> and there are many unit tests which can be seen here:
> - Unit Tests: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/#svn/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript
> - Referenced Templates and Results:
> http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/#svn/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates
>
> 2) How does it perform?
> There is a unit test that merges a template consisting of multiple
> macro references (called PerformanceTest)
>      http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/PerformanceTestCase.java
> This test, when performed on my laptop, can perform 1000 merges in
> about 1 second.
>
>
> As to the other issues of porting to other languages.  That isn't
> currently in the plan now but certainly would be something on the
> plate if this language got a foothold.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>   
>> For me, it's the "real world apps", *plus* the interest in porting GXP
>> to other platforms, like C++, and Ruby. Personally, I'd like to add C#
>> to that list. ASPX, like JSF, has its charms, but many .NET developers
>> (including me) would like alternatives.
>>
>> I do find the zipscript YUI examples interesting, since we are also
>> looking for an alternative approach to supporting Ajax with the Struts
>> tags.
>>
>> -Ted.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Al Sutton <al...@alsutton.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Joe,
>>>
>>> My main reason for backing GXP is that it's been used in high volume "real
>>> world" apps by Google and so has been proven to scale.
>>>
>>> Does ZipScript have the same real world testing, and if so where is it used?
>>>
>>> Al.
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe Hudson wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> With all the talk about GXP, I wanted to let you know about another
>>>> template engine called ZipScript (zipscript.org).
>>>>
>>>> Ok, you're probably saying... another one??? but this has some
>>>> distinct advantages and I would love for you to give it a try - I
>>>> really think you'll be happy you did.
>>>>
>>>> 1) it can be used to create complex UI components
>>>> 2) it has a powerful non XML-based syntax (which is helpful since the
>>>> most common output is XML)
>>>> 3) it can also be used to get more than just text from expressions
>>>> (like booleans or objects) - great for having smarter config
>>>> properties
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here are some quick links:
>>>> - homepage:
>>>>         http://zipscript.googlecode.com
>>>> - Yahoo! UI macro examples:
>>>>         http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/YUIMacros
>>>> - Language Syntax Examples
>>>>         http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/SyntaxExamples
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Joe Hudson
>>>>         
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Re: If your evaluating new template engines, what about ZipScript

Posted by Brian Pontarelli <br...@pontarelli.com>.
As I'm never a big fan of relying solely on the fact that technologies  
have been "used", I'd compare feature sets. Here's what I like from GXP:

- Pre-compile for performance
- Type safe
- Injectable
- White space reduction
- l10n and i18n support (although difficult to determine exactly how  
they work)
- Componentized
- Auto-escaping

Here's what I don't like

- XML syntax yet again
- Somewhat complex
- Lacking sufficient documentation for all features

I haven't yet, but I would be comparing feature sets rather than usage.

At the same time though, they can both be used for results. I'd  
probably only want to use one of them for tag files to reduce  
complexity, but anyone interested in writing a pluggable tag system  
could easily support both for tag files as well.

-bp


On Aug 1, 2008, at 6:35 AM, Joe Hudson wrote:

> Thank you for taking the time to evaluate zipscript.
>
> This is not currently being used in any real world apps because it is
> new.  That is certainly a valid concern.  It is kind of a catch 22
> because how can you ever be used in a real world app if people only
> want an engine that is being used in a real world app?
>
> Anyway, I'd like to address my assumption of your main concerns
> regarding real world app usage:
>
> 1) Is it reliable?
> All of the functionality is unit tested before a release is performed
> and there are many unit tests which can be seen here:
> - Unit Tests: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/#svn/ 
> trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript
> - Referenced Templates and Results:
> http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/#svn/trunk/core/src/ 
> main/test/templates
>
> 2) How does it perform?
> There is a unit test that merges a template consisting of multiple
> macro references (called PerformanceTest)
>     http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/PerformanceTestCase.java
> This test, when performed on my laptop, can perform 1000 merges in
> about 1 second.
>
>
> As to the other issues of porting to other languages.  That isn't
> currently in the plan now but certainly would be something on the
> plate if this language got a foothold.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>> For me, it's the "real world apps", *plus* the interest in porting  
>> GXP
>> to other platforms, like C++, and Ruby. Personally, I'd like to add  
>> C#
>> to that list. ASPX, like JSF, has its charms, but many .NET  
>> developers
>> (including me) would like alternatives.
>>
>> I do find the zipscript YUI examples interesting, since we are also
>> looking for an alternative approach to supporting Ajax with the  
>> Struts
>> tags.
>>
>> -Ted.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Al Sutton <al...@alsutton.com>  
>> wrote:
>>> Joe,
>>>
>>> My main reason for backing GXP is that it's been used in high  
>>> volume "real
>>> world" apps by Google and so has been proven to scale.
>>>
>>> Does ZipScript have the same real world testing, and if so where  
>>> is it used?
>>>
>>> Al.
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe Hudson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> With all the talk about GXP, I wanted to let you know about another
>>>> template engine called ZipScript (zipscript.org).
>>>>
>>>> Ok, you're probably saying... another one??? but this has some
>>>> distinct advantages and I would love for you to give it a try - I
>>>> really think you'll be happy you did.
>>>>
>>>> 1) it can be used to create complex UI components
>>>> 2) it has a powerful non XML-based syntax (which is helpful since  
>>>> the
>>>> most common output is XML)
>>>> 3) it can also be used to get more than just text from expressions
>>>> (like booleans or objects) - great for having smarter config
>>>> properties
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here are some quick links:
>>>> - homepage:
>>>>        http://zipscript.googlecode.com
>>>> - Yahoo! UI macro examples:
>>>>        http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/YUIMacros
>>>> - Language Syntax Examples
>>>>        http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/SyntaxExamples
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Joe Hudson
>>
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Re: If your evaluating new template engines, what about ZipScript

Posted by Joe Hudson <jo...@gmail.com>.
Thank you for taking the time to evaluate zipscript.

This is not currently being used in any real world apps because it is
new.  That is certainly a valid concern.  It is kind of a catch 22
because how can you ever be used in a real world app if people only
want an engine that is being used in a real world app?

Anyway, I'd like to address my assumption of your main concerns
regarding real world app usage:

1) Is it reliable?
All of the functionality is unit tested before a release is performed
and there are many unit tests which can be seen here:
- Unit Tests: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/#svn/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript
- Referenced Templates and Results:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/#svn/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates

2) How does it perform?
There is a unit test that merges a template consisting of multiple
macro references (called PerformanceTest)
     http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/PerformanceTestCase.java
This test, when performed on my laptop, can perform 1000 merges in
about 1 second.


As to the other issues of porting to other languages.  That isn't
currently in the plan now but certainly would be something on the
plate if this language got a foothold.

Joe


On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> For me, it's the "real world apps", *plus* the interest in porting GXP
> to other platforms, like C++, and Ruby. Personally, I'd like to add C#
> to that list. ASPX, like JSF, has its charms, but many .NET developers
> (including me) would like alternatives.
>
> I do find the zipscript YUI examples interesting, since we are also
> looking for an alternative approach to supporting Ajax with the Struts
> tags.
>
> -Ted.
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Al Sutton <al...@alsutton.com> wrote:
>> Joe,
>>
>> My main reason for backing GXP is that it's been used in high volume "real
>> world" apps by Google and so has been proven to scale.
>>
>> Does ZipScript have the same real world testing, and if so where is it used?
>>
>> Al.
>>
>>
>> Joe Hudson wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> With all the talk about GXP, I wanted to let you know about another
>>> template engine called ZipScript (zipscript.org).
>>>
>>> Ok, you're probably saying... another one??? but this has some
>>> distinct advantages and I would love for you to give it a try - I
>>> really think you'll be happy you did.
>>>
>>> 1) it can be used to create complex UI components
>>> 2) it has a powerful non XML-based syntax (which is helpful since the
>>> most common output is XML)
>>> 3) it can also be used to get more than just text from expressions
>>> (like booleans or objects) - great for having smarter config
>>> properties
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are some quick links:
>>> - homepage:
>>>         http://zipscript.googlecode.com
>>> - Yahoo! UI macro examples:
>>>         http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/YUIMacros
>>> - Language Syntax Examples
>>>         http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/SyntaxExamples
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Joe Hudson
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Re: If your evaluating new template engines, what about ZipScript

Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
For me, it's the "real world apps", *plus* the interest in porting GXP
to other platforms, like C++, and Ruby. Personally, I'd like to add C#
to that list. ASPX, like JSF, has its charms, but many .NET developers
(including me) would like alternatives.

I do find the zipscript YUI examples interesting, since we are also
looking for an alternative approach to supporting Ajax with the Struts
tags.

-Ted.

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Al Sutton <al...@alsutton.com> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> My main reason for backing GXP is that it's been used in high volume "real
> world" apps by Google and so has been proven to scale.
>
> Does ZipScript have the same real world testing, and if so where is it used?
>
> Al.
>
>
> Joe Hudson wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> With all the talk about GXP, I wanted to let you know about another
>> template engine called ZipScript (zipscript.org).
>>
>> Ok, you're probably saying... another one??? but this has some
>> distinct advantages and I would love for you to give it a try - I
>> really think you'll be happy you did.
>>
>> 1) it can be used to create complex UI components
>> 2) it has a powerful non XML-based syntax (which is helpful since the
>> most common output is XML)
>> 3) it can also be used to get more than just text from expressions
>> (like booleans or objects) - great for having smarter config
>> properties
>>
>>
>> Here are some quick links:
>> - homepage:
>>         http://zipscript.googlecode.com
>> - Yahoo! UI macro examples:
>>         http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/YUIMacros
>> - Language Syntax Examples
>>         http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/SyntaxExamples
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Joe Hudson

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Re: If your evaluating new template engines, what about ZipScript

Posted by Al Sutton <al...@alsutton.com>.
Joe,

My main reason for backing GXP is that it's been used in high volume 
"real world" apps by Google and so has been proven to scale.

Does ZipScript have the same real world testing, and if so where is it used?

Al.


Joe Hudson wrote:
> Hello,
>
> With all the talk about GXP, I wanted to let you know about another
> template engine called ZipScript (zipscript.org).
>
> Ok, you're probably saying... another one??? but this has some
> distinct advantages and I would love for you to give it a try - I
> really think you'll be happy you did.
>
> 1) it can be used to create complex UI components
> 2) it has a powerful non XML-based syntax (which is helpful since the
> most common output is XML)
> 3) it can also be used to get more than just text from expressions
> (like booleans or objects) - great for having smarter config
> properties
>
>
> Here are some quick links:
> - homepage:
>          http://zipscript.googlecode.com
> - Yahoo! UI macro examples:
>          http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/YUIMacros
> - Language Syntax Examples
>          http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/SyntaxExamples
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe Hudson
>
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Re: If your evaluating new template engines, what about ZipScript

Posted by Gabriel Belingueres <be...@gmail.com>.
I just want to bring into attention tag files as a simple and yet very
powerful mechanism as a template engine.

See:

http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/JSPTags5.html
http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/cioroianu_tagfiles.html

2008/7/31 Joe Hudson <jo...@gmail.com>:
> Hello,
>
> With all the talk about GXP, I wanted to let you know about another
> template engine called ZipScript (zipscript.org).
>
> Ok, you're probably saying... another one??? but this has some
> distinct advantages and I would love for you to give it a try - I
> really think you'll be happy you did.
>
> 1) it can be used to create complex UI components
> 2) it has a powerful non XML-based syntax (which is helpful since the
> most common output is XML)
> 3) it can also be used to get more than just text from expressions
> (like booleans or objects) - great for having smarter config
> properties
>
>
> Here are some quick links:
> - homepage:
>         http://zipscript.googlecode.com
> - Yahoo! UI macro examples:
>         http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/YUIMacros
> - Language Syntax Examples
>         http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/SyntaxExamples
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe Hudson
>
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