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[Axiom] Can we change the GroupId ..
Hello Everyone,
Does anyone object to change GroupId of Axiom from
org.apache.ws.commons.axiom to org.apache.axiom which IMHO more appropriate
..
Thanks,
Sanka
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Re: [Axiom] Can we change the GroupId ..
Posted by Sanka Samaranayake <ss...@gmail.com>.
Alright .. we'll stick to the old groupId then ..
Thanks
Sanka
On 7/6/07, Sanka Samaranayake <ss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 7/5/07, Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1 only if you do the same for XmlSchema too :)
>
>
>
> The groupId 'org.apache.ws.commons.schema' of XmlSchema is consistent with
> its actual package name org.apache.ws.commons.schema. Therefore I don't
> think we should not alter it since it adhers maven naming convention.
>
> Thanks,
> Sanka
>
> -- dims
> >
> > On 7/5/07, Deepal jayasinghe < deepalk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I think its good thing to do , so Im +1 on that.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Deepal
> > > > Hello Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone object to change GroupId of Axiom from
> > > > org.apache.ws.commons.axiom to org.apache.axiom which IMHO more
> > > > appropriate
> > > > ..
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Sanka
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > > Deepal
> > > ................................................................
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Re: [Axiom] Can we change the GroupId ..
Posted by Sanka Samaranayake <ss...@gmail.com>.
On 7/5/07, Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 only if you do the same for XmlSchema too :)
The groupId 'org.apache.ws.commons.schema' of XmlSchema is consistent with
its actual package name org.apache.ws.commons.schema. Therefore I don't
think we should not alter it since it adhers maven naming convention.
Thanks,
Sanka
-- dims
>
> On 7/5/07, Deepal jayasinghe <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think its good thing to do , so Im +1 on that.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Deepal
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > Does anyone object to change GroupId of Axiom from
> > > org.apache.ws.commons.axiom to org.apache.axiom which IMHO more
> > > appropriate
> > > ..
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sanka
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Deepal
> > ................................................................
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Re: [Axiom] Can we change the GroupId ..
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
+1 only if you do the same for XmlSchema too :)
-- dims
On 7/5/07, Deepal jayasinghe <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think its good thing to do , so Im +1 on that.
>
> Thanks
> Deepal
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Does anyone object to change GroupId of Axiom from
> > org.apache.ws.commons.axiom to org.apache.axiom which IMHO more
> > appropriate
> > ..
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sanka
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Deepal
> ................................................................
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Re: [Axiom] Can we change the GroupId ..
Posted by Deepal jayasinghe <de...@gmail.com>.
I think its good thing to do , so Im +1 on that.
Thanks
Deepal
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Does anyone object to change GroupId of Axiom from
> org.apache.ws.commons.axiom to org.apache.axiom which IMHO more
> appropriate
> ..
>
> Thanks,
> Sanka
>
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Thanks,
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Re: [Axiom] Can we change the GroupId ..
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
We've had this debate before :) Can we just stick to what we have
please? and change it when get shoot for 1.5/2.0?
thanks,
dims
On 7/6/07, Sanka Samaranayake <ss...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/5/07, Eran Chinthaka <ch...@opensource.lk> wrote:
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> > Sanka Samaranayake wrote:
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > Does anyone object to change GroupId of Axiom from
> > > org.apache.ws.commons.axiom to org.apache.axiom which IMHO more
> > appropriate
> >
> > Is there a particular reason why we need to do this? I think it is
> > better to have it like what we have now as it reflects our Axiom project
> > site and the parent project.
> >
> > Unlike Axis2, Axiom is *within* commons project. So don't you think the
> > id should reflect it?
> >
> > I don't think the id matter a lot but do we really need to change
> > another thing??
>
>
>
> The maven naming convention[1] requires a groupId which mimics the package
> name. Therefore I believe that org.apache.axiom would be more appropriate
> since it mimics the actual axiom package name ( org.apache.axiom.*)
>
>
> [1] http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-naming-conventions.html
>
> Thanks,
> Sanka
>
>
> Chinthaka
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Re: [Axiom] Can we change the GroupId ..
Posted by Eran Chinthaka <ch...@opensource.lk>.
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+1.
What are we gonna gain from this? Even now we have inconsistencies with
XmlSchema packaging and Axiom, as Sanka pointed out and we can debate
for months on which one is correct.
Think about what we gonna gain vs the effect of these changes. Asankha
is some one who really will be affected with this change from Synapse
pov. If the users don't need it, why bother?
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks,
Chinthaka
Asankha C. Perera wrote:
> Sanka
>
> I agree with Chinthaka, and changing the group ID's will create
> confusions and require many projects down the line to change their
> POMs.. I think this is an unwanted overhead right now and will not give
> anyone any measurable benefit for being 'maven guidelines compatible' -
> enough projects violate these guidelines already in the maven world! and
> this is only something you notice when dealing with maven.. when talking
> about violations, I do not see the Axiom 1.0 releases on the maven
> repo's anymore and I think thats a stronger violation as somehow this
> artifacts are lost?
>
> I think its more important to remember this as a lesson and make sure we
> pick the correct names when we start a new project in future or when we
> move a project into maven or maven2. Axiom 1.0 was released with a
> group id of "ws-commons" and it was changed to
> "org.apache.ws.commons.axiom" later.. so I don't see any point of
> changing this yet again..
>
> asankha
>
> Sanka Samaranayake wrote:
>> On 7/5/07, Eran Chinthaka <ch...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>>
> Sanka Samaranayake wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>
>> Does anyone object to change GroupId of Axiom from
>> org.apache.ws.commons.axiom to org.apache.axiom which IMHO more
> appropriate
>
> Is there a particular reason why we need to do this? I think it is
> better to have it like what we have now as it reflects our Axiom project
> site and the parent project.
>
> Unlike Axis2, Axiom is *within* commons project. So don't you think the
> id should reflect it?
>
> I don't think the id matter a lot but do we really need to change
> another thing??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The maven naming convention[1] requires a groupId which mimics the
>>> package
>>> name. Therefore I believe that org.apache.axiom would be more appropriate
>>> since it mimics the actual axiom package name ( org.apache.axiom.*)
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-naming-conventions.html
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sanka
>>>
>>>
>>> Chinthaka
>>>
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Re: [Axiom] Can we change the GroupId ..
Posted by "Asankha C. Perera" <as...@wso2.com>.
Sanka
I agree with Chinthaka, and changing the group ID's will create
confusions and require many projects down the line to change their
POMs.. I think this is an unwanted overhead right now and will not give
anyone any measurable benefit for being 'maven guidelines compatible' -
enough projects violate these guidelines already in the maven world! and
this is only something you notice when dealing with maven.. when talking
about violations, I do not see the Axiom 1.0 releases on the maven
repo's anymore and I think thats a stronger violation as somehow this
artifacts are lost?
I think its more important to remember this as a lesson and make sure we
pick the correct names when we start a new project in future or when we
move a project into maven or maven2. Axiom 1.0 was released with a
group id of "ws-commons" and it was changed to
"org.apache.ws.commons.axiom" later.. so I don't see any point of
changing this yet again..
asankha
Sanka Samaranayake wrote:
> On 7/5/07, Eran Chinthaka <ch...@opensource.lk> wrote:
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>> Sanka Samaranayake wrote:
>> > Hello Everyone,
>> >
>> > Does anyone object to change GroupId of Axiom from
>> > org.apache.ws.commons.axiom to org.apache.axiom which IMHO more
>> appropriate
>>
>> Is there a particular reason why we need to do this? I think it is
>> better to have it like what we have now as it reflects our Axiom project
>> site and the parent project.
>>
>> Unlike Axis2, Axiom is *within* commons project. So don't you think the
>> id should reflect it?
>>
>> I don't think the id matter a lot but do we really need to change
>> another thing??
>
>
>
> The maven naming convention[1] requires a groupId which mimics the
> package
> name. Therefore I believe that org.apache.axiom would be more appropriate
> since it mimics the actual axiom package name ( org.apache.axiom.*)
>
>
> [1] http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-naming-conventions.html
>
> Thanks,
> Sanka
>
>
> Chinthaka
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Re: [Axiom] Can we change the GroupId ..
Posted by Sanka Samaranayake <ss...@gmail.com>.
On 7/5/07, Eran Chinthaka <ch...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>
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> Sanka Samaranayake wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Does anyone object to change GroupId of Axiom from
> > org.apache.ws.commons.axiom to org.apache.axiom which IMHO more
> appropriate
>
> Is there a particular reason why we need to do this? I think it is
> better to have it like what we have now as it reflects our Axiom project
> site and the parent project.
>
> Unlike Axis2, Axiom is *within* commons project. So don't you think the
> id should reflect it?
>
> I don't think the id matter a lot but do we really need to change
> another thing??
The maven naming convention[1] requires a groupId which mimics the package
name. Therefore I believe that org.apache.axiom would be more appropriate
since it mimics the actual axiom package name ( org.apache.axiom.*)
[1] http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-naming-conventions.html
Thanks,
Sanka
Chinthaka
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Re: [Axiom] Can we change the GroupId ..
Posted by Eran Chinthaka <ch...@opensource.lk>.
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Sanka Samaranayake wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Does anyone object to change GroupId of Axiom from
> org.apache.ws.commons.axiom to org.apache.axiom which IMHO more appropriate
Is there a particular reason why we need to do this? I think it is
better to have it like what we have now as it reflects our Axiom project
site and the parent project.
Unlike Axis2, Axiom is *within* commons project. So don't you think the
id should reflect it?
I don't think the id matter a lot but do we really need to change
another thing??
Chinthaka
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