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Posted to dev@tomee.apache.org by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com> on 2018/02/05 13:03:27 UTC

[RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him and proceed.

The VOTE passes with

+1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy Gumbrecht, David
Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro

No 0 and no -1

non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes

Thanks for voting
Jean-Louis

--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:

> Did you tally?
>
> I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd like to figure out
> the next steps on.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > My +1
> >
> > ... will tally shortly.
> >
> >
> > --
> > David Blevins
> > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >
> > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > >
> > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and Chatterbox as part
> of
> > the Apache TomEE project.
> > >
> > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > >
> > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox respectively.
> > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I have no
> preference)
> > >
> > > All votes welcome:
> > >
> > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > >
> > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with this.
> > >
> > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do this.
> > >
> > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > >
> > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to vote.  All votes
> > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Blevins
> > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <http://twitter.com/dblevins>
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >
> >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de.INVALID>.
technically now since TomEE is hosted in GIT we even _have to_ give them own repos.
Because those components will likely _not_ share the same lifecycle nor version number than the TomEE app server, isn't?

GIT is not SVN. You technically cannot do sparse releases from a GIT repo. It's always a single repo.

LieGrue,
strub


> Am 13.02.2018 um 10:03 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Hmm,
> 
> what does hurt letting them having their own repo? I see the benefit to
> release them more easily and let them have their own lifecycle. I also see
> the drawback of all the tomee project if we put them as submodules. However
> I fail to see what would be the advantages in this last case. What do I
> miss?
> 
> Side note: agree to put them on the same website for now, probably a
> subspace to not mix EE/Server/RAR stuff but as TomEE we have a single entry
> point which is tomee.apache.org.
> 
> 
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>
> 
> 2018-02-13 10:00 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:
> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
>> 
>> Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack Java EE JCA,
>> aren't they?
>> 
>> What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having these guys
>> there?
>> 
>> <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
>> <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
>> 
>> <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
>> <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
>> 
>> We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org and maven
>> central without going through yet another project configuration.
>> 
>> If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into their own top
>> project, we can do that later.
>> 
>> []s,
>> Thiago.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
>>> And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
>>> In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history lections then
>>> you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was NOT a good
>>> idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine on Mojarra
>> we
>>> had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to join forces
>>> with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to remove any
>>> doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
>>> Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most likely be
>> exactly
>>> the same.
>>> So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this does not
>>> belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part which is
>>> portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE specific. In any
>> case
>>> we must be sure which route we want to take.
>>> LieGrue,strub
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> One per project
>>> 
>>> And no need of tomee in the name ;)
>>> 
>>> we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and chatterbox.git
>>> 
>>> 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
>>> :
>>> 
>>>> I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or one
>> with
>>>> everything inside?
>>>> If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That would make
>>>> tomee git repo
>>>> tomee-sheldon git repo
>>>> tomee-chatterbox git repo
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> just plain new git repos IMHO
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
>>>>> rmannibucau> |
>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
>>>>> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
>>>>> ee-8-high-performance>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
>>> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
>>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In terms of source code, do we want something like this
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> tomee/ (the main git project)
>>>>>> ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from a user
>>>>>> perspective
>>>>>> ..sheldon/
>>>>>> ..chatterbox/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
>>>>>> jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
>>>>>>> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him and
>>>> proceed.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The VOTE passes with
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy
>>>> Gumbrecht,
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>> Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No 0 and no -1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for voting
>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
>>>> johndament@apache.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Did you tally?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd like
>> to
>>>>>> figure
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> the next steps on.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
>>>>>> david.blevins@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> My +1
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ... will tally shortly.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> David Blevins
>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/dblevins
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
>>>>>> david.blevins@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and
>>> Chatterbox
>>>>> as
>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the Apache TomEE project.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
>>>>>>>>>> https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
>>>>>>>>>>> - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
>>>>>>>>>> https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox
>>>>>> respectively.
>>>>>>>>>> Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I have
>>> no
>>>>>>>>> preference)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> All votes welcome:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +1: Let’s do this!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with
>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do
>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to
>> vote.
>>>> All
>>>>>>> votes
>>>>>>>>>> are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> David Blevins
>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/dblevins <http://twitter.com/dblevins
>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 


Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Hmm,

what does hurt letting them having their own repo? I see the benefit to
release them more easily and let them have their own lifecycle. I also see
the drawback of all the tomee project if we put them as submodules. However
I fail to see what would be the advantages in this last case. What do I
miss?

Side note: agree to put them on the same website for now, probably a
subspace to not mix EE/Server/RAR stuff but as TomEE we have a single entry
point which is tomee.apache.org.


Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
<https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
<https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>

2018-02-13 10:00 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:

> Hi guys,
>
> I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
>
> Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack Java EE JCA,
> aren't they?
>
> What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having these guys
> there?
>
> <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
>
> <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
>
> We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org and maven
> central without going through yet another project configuration.
>
> If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into their own top
> project, we can do that later.
>
> []s,
> Thiago.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> > And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> > In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history lections then
> > you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was NOT a good
> > idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine on Mojarra
> we
> > had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to join forces
> > with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to remove any
> > doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> > Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most likely be
> exactly
> > the same.
> > So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this does not
> > belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part which is
> > portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE specific. In any
> case
> > we must be sure which route we want to take.
> > LieGrue,strub
> >
> >
> >     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  One per project
> >
> > And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> >
> > we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and chatterbox.git
> >
> > 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> >:
> >
> > > I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or one
> with
> > > everything inside?
> > > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
> > >
> > >
> > > That would make
> > > tomee git repo
> > > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> > >
> > >
> > > Jean-Louis
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> > > > rmannibucau> |
> > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > > >
> > > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > >:
> > > >
> > > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > > >
> > > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from a user
> > > > > perspective
> > > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > > >
> > > > > WDYT?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jon
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him and
> > > proceed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy
> > > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > > David
> > > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd like
> to
> > > > > figure
> > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and
> > Chatterbox
> > > > as
> > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox
> > > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I have
> > no
> > > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with
> this.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do
> > this.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to
> vote.
> > > All
> > > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <http://twitter.com/dblevins
> >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.

On 2018/02/13 09:15:54, Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com> wrote: 
> I'll create the tickets for infra so we have the repos ready.
> 

No infra ticket required.  Git repos are fully self serve:

git-wip-us hosted repos are requested via https://selfserve.apache.org/
gitbox hosted repos are requested via https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/newrepo.html

> Can you look at the other steps?
> I'm not very familiar with the steps in case of code donation. So I'll need
> to document myself as well.
> 
> Le 13 févr. 2018 10:10, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a écrit :
> 
> > Awesome!
> >
> > Thanks guys.
> >
> > Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
> > incubator work.
> >
> > []s,
> > Thiago.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Thiago.
> > >
> > > I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs some
> > > paperwork for IP clearance.
> > >
> > > I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo instead of
> > > the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit happy
> > to
> > > change if the community thinks it's better.
> > >
> > > If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2 projects ready
> > > for review.
> > >
> > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a écrit
> > :
> > >
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
> > > >
> > > > Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack Java EE
> > JCA,
> > > > aren't they?
> > > >
> > > > What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having these guys
> > > > there?
> > > >
> > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
> > > >
> > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
> > > >
> > > > We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org and
> > maven
> > > > central without going through yet another project configuration.
> > > >
> > > > If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into their own
> > > top
> > > > project, we can do that later.
> > > >
> > > > []s,
> > > > Thiago.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg
> > <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> > > > > And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> > > > > In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history lections
> > > then
> > > > > you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was NOT a
> > good
> > > > > idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine on
> > > Mojarra
> > > > we
> > > > > had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to join
> > forces
> > > > > with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to remove
> > any
> > > > > doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> > > > > Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most likely be
> > > > exactly
> > > > > the same.
> > > > > So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this does not
> > > > > belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part which is
> > > > > portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE specific. In
> > any
> > > > case
> > > > > we must be sure which route we want to take.
> > > > > LieGrue,strub
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  One per project
> > > > >
> > > > > And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and
> > chatterbox.git
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or one
> > > > with
> > > > > > everything inside?
> > > > > > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That would make
> > > > > > tomee git repo
> > > > > > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > > > > > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> > > > > > > rmannibucau> |
> > > > > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > > > > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > > > > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > > > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from a
> > > user
> > > > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > > > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > > > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him
> > and
> > > > > > proceed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy
> > > > > > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd
> > > like
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and
> > > > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I
> > > have
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with
> > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't
> > do
> > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to
> > > > vote.
> > > > > > All
> > > > > > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <
> > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>.
Ok,

iCLA is all set as everyone is asf committer. I guess the only thing
missing is the IP paperwork. Jean-Louis, is there anything I can do to help
us get this boring stuff ready?

[]s,
Thiago.


On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:58 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de.invalid>
wrote:

> Yes, all the committers on those projects of course need to have an iCLA
> on file.
> And the PMC has to do an IP clearance. Once that's done it's fine to
> directly import it over here.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> PS: at OWB it was a bit different: with Meecrowave it was basically moving
> parts which existed in OWB since the incubation in 2008 (OWB bundled with
> tomcat) to an own project because it has a different lifecycle.
>
>
> > Am 13.02.2018 um 10:47 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >:
> >
> > Yes, this doesn't apply for *sub*projects. Karaf, OpenWebBeans, ... are
> > examples doing that without any issues. Also the fact the license - even
> if
> > not explicit with a LICENSE file but only headers - is asf v2 in all
> > projects helps to smooth that procedure. So public
> > donation+license+subproject = no need to go through headaches IMHO.
> >
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> rmannibucau> |
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> ee-8-high-performance>
> >
> > 2018-02-13 10:43 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:
> >
> >> Are you sure we don't need the incubator? I know that Tomcat has
> multiple
> >> github repositories, but they are simple mirrors of the same svn
> repository
> >> on different branches (tc7, tc8 etc).
> >>
> >> From https://incubator.apache.org/faq.html I get this...
> >>
> >> "
> >> 1.4. Someone has proposed that their code/project be donated to project
> X
> >> within the ASF for continued development. What do we need to do to
> accept
> >> the code?
> >>
> >> The Incubator will only accept code for incubation if a PMC has voted to
> >> accept it. So when a proposal for the donation of code occurs, the
> project
> >> in question should discuss the proposal (usually on their public mailing
> >> lists!), leading to a decision by that project’s PMC on whether or not
> to
> >> sponsor the code (and potentially the project surrounding it). If the
> PMC
> >> agrees, then the incubator can be approached, and the code accepted for
> >> incubation. The grant needs to be recorded by following the procedure
> >> outlined at the IP Clearance forms
> >> <https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/>.
> >>
> >> "
> >>
> >> We passed the point of vote. The code has been accepted. Once the IP
> forms
> >> are formalized, we may start the incubation process.
> >>
> >> []s,
> >> Thiago.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> side note: we don't need to go through asf@incubator here, the vote
> >> passed
> >>> and the project can be imported as soon as the repos are created by
> >> infra.
> >>> The only thing to take care (and a lot) is to make clear tomitribe
> gives
> >>> (donates) this code to asf. A public message on a list is generally
> good
> >>> and a commit done by a tomitribe member are enough in general.
> >>>
> >>> In other words: let just that happen :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> >>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> >>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> >>> rmannibucau> |
> >>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> >>> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> >>> ee-8-high-performance>
> >>>
> >>> 2018-02-13 10:27 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:
> >>>
> >>>> Yes, looking at the steps now. I will ping you later for more
> guidance.
> >>> At
> >>>> first glance, It looks like a very complex process. It's a good
> >> learning
> >>>> opportunity.
> >>>> Thanks man.
> >>>>
> >>>> []s,
> >>>> Thiago
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >>>> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'll create the tickets for infra so we have the repos ready.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can you look at the other steps?
> >>>>> I'm not very familiar with the steps in case of code donation. So
> >> I'll
> >>>> need
> >>>>> to document myself as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Le 13 févr. 2018 10:10, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a
> >>> écrit
> >>>> :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Awesome!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks guys.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
> >>>>>> incubator work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> []s,
> >>>>>> Thiago.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >>>>>> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hey Thiago.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs
> >> some
> >>>>>>> paperwork for IP clearance.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo
> >>> instead
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>>> the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit
> >>>> happy
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> change if the community thinks it's better.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2
> >> projects
> >>>>> ready
> >>>>>>> for review.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org>
> >> a
> >>>>> écrit
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack
> >> Java
> >>> EE
> >>>>>> JCA,
> >>>>>>>> aren't they?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having
> >> these
> >>>>> guys
> >>>>>>>> there?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> >>>>>>>> <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> >>>>>>>> <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org
> >>> and
> >>>>>> maven
> >>>>>>>> central without going through yet another project
> >> configuration.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into
> >>> their
> >>>>> own
> >>>>>>> top
> >>>>>>>> project, we can do that later.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> []s,
> >>>>>>>> Thiago.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg
> >>>>>> <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> >>>>>>>>> And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> >>>>>>>>> In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history
> >>>> lections
> >>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>> you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was
> >>> NOT a
> >>>>>> good
> >>>>>>>>> idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine
> >>> on
> >>>>>>> Mojarra
> >>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>> had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to
> >>> join
> >>>>>> forces
> >>>>>>>>> with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to
> >>>> remove
> >>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>> doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> >>>>>>>>> Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most
> >> likely
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>>> exactly
> >>>>>>>>> the same.
> >>>>>>>>> So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this
> >>> does
> >>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>> belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part
> >> which
> >>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE
> >> specific.
> >>>> In
> >>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>> case
> >>>>>>>>> we must be sure which route we want to take.
> >>>>>>>>> LieGrue,strub
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>    On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain
> >>> Manni-Bucau
> >>>> <
> >>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> One per project
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and
> >>>>>> chatterbox.git
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >>>>>>> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm fine either way, do we want one per
> >> sub-project/sub-tool
> >>> or
> >>>>> one
> >>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> everything inside?
> >>>>>>>>>> If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per
> >> contribution.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That would make
> >>>>>>>>>> tomee git repo
> >>>>>>>>>> tomee-sheldon git repo
> >>>>>>>>>> tomee-chatterbox git repo
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> just plain new git repos IMHO
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> >>>>>>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> >>>>> https://github.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau> |
> >>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> |
> >> Book
> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> >>>>>>>>>>> ee-8-high-performance>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >>>>>>>>> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tomee/ (the main git project)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best
> >>>> from
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>>> user
> >>>>>>>>>>>> perspective
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ..sheldon/
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ..chatterbox/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way
> >> I
> >>>> can.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE
> >> for
> >>>> him
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> proceed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The VOTE passes with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark
> >> Struberg,
> >>>>> Andy
> >>>>>>>>>> Gumbrecht,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No 0 and no -1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for voting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> >>>>>>>>>> johndament@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you tally?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox
> >> that
> >>>> I'd
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> figure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the next steps on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> david.blevins@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... will tally shortly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Blevins
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/dblevins
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> david.blevins@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should we accept the code donations of
> >> Sheldon
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> Chatterbox
> >>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> part
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache TomEE project.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox
> >> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache
> >>>>> Chatterbox
> >>>>>>>>>>>> respectively.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven groupid and java packages up for
> >>> discussion.
> >>>>> (I
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preference)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All votes welcome:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1: Let’s do this!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm
> >>> okay
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>>>> this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we
> >>>>> didn't
> >>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>> this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -1: I really don't like this, because [insert
> >>>>> reason]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll leave this up for a week so people have
> >>> time
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> vote.
> >>>>>>>>>> All
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> votes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the
> >>>> better.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Blevins
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/dblevins <
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/dblevins
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de.INVALID>.
Yes, all the committers on those projects of course need to have an iCLA on file.
And the PMC has to do an IP clearance. Once that's done it's fine to directly import it over here.

LieGrue,
strub


PS: at OWB it was a bit different: with Meecrowave it was basically moving parts which existed in OWB since the incubation in 2008 (OWB bundled with tomcat) to an own project because it has a different lifecycle.


> Am 13.02.2018 um 10:47 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Yes, this doesn't apply for *sub*projects. Karaf, OpenWebBeans, ... are
> examples doing that without any issues. Also the fact the license - even if
> not explicit with a LICENSE file but only headers - is asf v2 in all
> projects helps to smooth that procedure. So public
> donation+license+subproject = no need to go through headaches IMHO.
> 
> 
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>
> 
> 2018-02-13 10:43 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:
> 
>> Are you sure we don't need the incubator? I know that Tomcat has multiple
>> github repositories, but they are simple mirrors of the same svn repository
>> on different branches (tc7, tc8 etc).
>> 
>> From https://incubator.apache.org/faq.html I get this...
>> 
>> "
>> 1.4. Someone has proposed that their code/project be donated to project X
>> within the ASF for continued development. What do we need to do to accept
>> the code?
>> 
>> The Incubator will only accept code for incubation if a PMC has voted to
>> accept it. So when a proposal for the donation of code occurs, the project
>> in question should discuss the proposal (usually on their public mailing
>> lists!), leading to a decision by that project’s PMC on whether or not to
>> sponsor the code (and potentially the project surrounding it). If the PMC
>> agrees, then the incubator can be approached, and the code accepted for
>> incubation. The grant needs to be recorded by following the procedure
>> outlined at the IP Clearance forms
>> <https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/>.
>> 
>> "
>> 
>> We passed the point of vote. The code has been accepted. Once the IP forms
>> are formalized, we may start the incubation process.
>> 
>> []s,
>> Thiago.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> side note: we don't need to go through asf@incubator here, the vote
>> passed
>>> and the project can be imported as soon as the repos are created by
>> infra.
>>> The only thing to take care (and a lot) is to make clear tomitribe gives
>>> (donates) this code to asf. A public message on a list is generally good
>>> and a commit done by a tomitribe member are enough in general.
>>> 
>>> In other words: let just that happen :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
>>> rmannibucau> |
>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
>>> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
>>> ee-8-high-performance>
>>> 
>>> 2018-02-13 10:27 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, looking at the steps now. I will ping you later for more guidance.
>>> At
>>>> first glance, It looks like a very complex process. It's a good
>> learning
>>>> opportunity.
>>>> Thanks man.
>>>> 
>>>> []s,
>>>> Thiago
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
>>>> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'll create the tickets for infra so we have the repos ready.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can you look at the other steps?
>>>>> I'm not very familiar with the steps in case of code donation. So
>> I'll
>>>> need
>>>>> to document myself as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le 13 févr. 2018 10:10, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a
>>> écrit
>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Awesome!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks guys.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
>>>>>> incubator work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> []s,
>>>>>> Thiago.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
>>>>>> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey Thiago.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs
>> some
>>>>>>> paperwork for IP clearance.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo
>>> instead
>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit
>>>> happy
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> change if the community thinks it's better.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2
>> projects
>>>>> ready
>>>>>>> for review.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org>
>> a
>>>>> écrit
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack
>> Java
>>> EE
>>>>>> JCA,
>>>>>>>> aren't they?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having
>> these
>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>> there?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
>>>>>>>> <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
>>>>>>>> <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org
>>> and
>>>>>> maven
>>>>>>>> central without going through yet another project
>> configuration.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into
>>> their
>>>>> own
>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>> project, we can do that later.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> []s,
>>>>>>>> Thiago.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg
>>>>>> <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
>>>>>>>>> And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
>>>>>>>>> In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history
>>>> lections
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was
>>> NOT a
>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>> idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine
>>> on
>>>>>>> Mojarra
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to
>>> join
>>>>>> forces
>>>>>>>>> with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to
>>>> remove
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
>>>>>>>>> Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most
>> likely
>>>> be
>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>> the same.
>>>>>>>>> So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this
>>> does
>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part
>> which
>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE
>> specific.
>>>> In
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>> we must be sure which route we want to take.
>>>>>>>>> LieGrue,strub
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>    On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain
>>> Manni-Bucau
>>>> <
>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> One per project
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> And no need of tomee in the name ;)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and
>>>>>> chatterbox.git
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
>>>>>>> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm fine either way, do we want one per
>> sub-project/sub-tool
>>> or
>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> everything inside?
>>>>>>>>>> If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per
>> contribution.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That would make
>>>>>>>>>> tomee git repo
>>>>>>>>>> tomee-sheldon git repo
>>>>>>>>>> tomee-chatterbox git repo
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> just plain new git repos IMHO
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
>>>>> https://github.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau> |
>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> |
>> Book
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
>>>>>>>>>>> ee-8-high-performance>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
>>>>>>>>> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> In terms of source code, do we want something like this
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> tomee/ (the main git project)
>>>>>>>>>>>> ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best
>>>> from
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective
>>>>>>>>>>>> ..sheldon/
>>>>>>>>>>>> ..chatterbox/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way
>> I
>>>> can.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE
>> for
>>>> him
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> proceed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The VOTE passes with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark
>> Struberg,
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>>> Gumbrecht,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No 0 and no -1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for voting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
>>>>>>>>>> johndament@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you tally?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox
>> that
>>>> I'd
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> figure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the next steps on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>> david.blevins@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... will tally shortly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Blevins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/dblevins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
>>>>>>>>>>>> david.blevins@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should we accept the code donations of
>> Sheldon
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> Chatterbox
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache TomEE project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox
>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache
>>>>> Chatterbox
>>>>>>>>>>>> respectively.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven groupid and java packages up for
>>> discussion.
>>>>> (I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preference)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All votes welcome:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1: Let’s do this!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm
>>> okay
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we
>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -1: I really don't like this, because [insert
>>>>> reason]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll leave this up for a week so people have
>>> time
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> vote.
>>>>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>>>>>>> votes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the
>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Blevins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/dblevins <
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/dblevins
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 


Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Yes, this doesn't apply for *sub*projects. Karaf, OpenWebBeans, ... are
examples doing that without any issues. Also the fact the license - even if
not explicit with a LICENSE file but only headers - is asf v2 in all
projects helps to smooth that procedure. So public
donation+license+subproject = no need to go through headaches IMHO.


Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
<https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
<https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>

2018-02-13 10:43 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:

> Are you sure we don't need the incubator? I know that Tomcat has multiple
> github repositories, but they are simple mirrors of the same svn repository
> on different branches (tc7, tc8 etc).
>
> From https://incubator.apache.org/faq.html I get this...
>
> "
> 1.4. Someone has proposed that their code/project be donated to project X
> within the ASF for continued development. What do we need to do to accept
> the code?
>
> The Incubator will only accept code for incubation if a PMC has voted to
> accept it. So when a proposal for the donation of code occurs, the project
> in question should discuss the proposal (usually on their public mailing
> lists!), leading to a decision by that project’s PMC on whether or not to
> sponsor the code (and potentially the project surrounding it). If the PMC
> agrees, then the incubator can be approached, and the code accepted for
> incubation. The grant needs to be recorded by following the procedure
> outlined at the IP Clearance forms
> <https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/>.
>
> "
>
> We passed the point of vote. The code has been accepted. Once the IP forms
> are formalized, we may start the incubation process.
>
> []s,
> Thiago.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > side note: we don't need to go through asf@incubator here, the vote
> passed
> > and the project can be imported as soon as the repos are created by
> infra.
> > The only thing to take care (and a lot) is to make clear tomitribe gives
> > (donates) this code to asf. A public message on a list is generally good
> > and a commit done by a tomitribe member are enough in general.
> >
> > In other words: let just that happen :)
> >
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> > rmannibucau> |
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > ee-8-high-performance>
> >
> > 2018-02-13 10:27 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:
> >
> > > Yes, looking at the steps now. I will ping you later for more guidance.
> > At
> > > first glance, It looks like a very complex process. It's a good
> learning
> > > opportunity.
> > > Thanks man.
> > >
> > > []s,
> > > Thiago
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll create the tickets for infra so we have the repos ready.
> > > >
> > > > Can you look at the other steps?
> > > > I'm not very familiar with the steps in case of code donation. So
> I'll
> > > need
> > > > to document myself as well.
> > > >
> > > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:10, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a
> > écrit
> > > :
> > > >
> > > > > Awesome!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks guys.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
> > > > > incubator work.
> > > > >
> > > > > []s,
> > > > > Thiago.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Thiago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs
> some
> > > > > > paperwork for IP clearance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo
> > instead
> > > > of
> > > > > > the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit
> > > happy
> > > > > to
> > > > > > change if the community thinks it's better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2
> projects
> > > > ready
> > > > > > for review.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org>
> a
> > > > écrit
> > > > > :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack
> Java
> > EE
> > > > > JCA,
> > > > > > > aren't they?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having
> these
> > > > guys
> > > > > > > there?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > > > > <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > > > > <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org
> > and
> > > > > maven
> > > > > > > central without going through yet another project
> configuration.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into
> > their
> > > > own
> > > > > > top
> > > > > > > project, we can do that later.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > []s,
> > > > > > > Thiago.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg
> > > > > <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> > > > > > > > And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> > > > > > > > In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history
> > > lections
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was
> > NOT a
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > > idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine
> > on
> > > > > > Mojarra
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to
> > join
> > > > > forces
> > > > > > > > with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to
> > > remove
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > > doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> > > > > > > > Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most
> likely
> > > be
> > > > > > > exactly
> > > > > > > > the same.
> > > > > > > > So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this
> > does
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part
> which
> > > is
> > > > > > > > portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE
> specific.
> > > In
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > case
> > > > > > > > we must be sure which route we want to take.
> > > > > > > > LieGrue,strub
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain
> > Manni-Bucau
> > > <
> > > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  One per project
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and
> > > > > chatterbox.git
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm fine either way, do we want one per
> sub-project/sub-tool
> > or
> > > > one
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > everything inside?
> > > > > > > > > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per
> contribution.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That would make
> > > > > > > > > tomee git repo
> > > > > > > > > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > > > > > > > > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > > > > > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > > > > > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> > > > https://github.com/
> > > > > > > > > > rmannibucau> |
> > > > > > > > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> |
> Book
> > > > > > > > > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > > > > > > > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > > > > > > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best
> > > from
> > > > a
> > > > > > user
> > > > > > > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > > > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > > > > > > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > > > > > > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way
> I
> > > can.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE
> for
> > > him
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > proceed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark
> Struberg,
> > > > Andy
> > > > > > > > > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > > > > > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox
> that
> > > I'd
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of
> Sheldon
> > > and
> > > > > > > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox
> <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache
> > > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for
> > discussion.
> > > > (I
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm
> > okay
> > > > with
> > > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we
> > > > didn't
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert
> > > > reason]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have
> > time
> > > > to
> > > > > > > vote.
> > > > > > > > > All
> > > > > > > > > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the
> > > better.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>.
Are you sure we don't need the incubator? I know that Tomcat has multiple
github repositories, but they are simple mirrors of the same svn repository
on different branches (tc7, tc8 etc).

From https://incubator.apache.org/faq.html I get this...

"
1.4. Someone has proposed that their code/project be donated to project X
within the ASF for continued development. What do we need to do to accept
the code?

The Incubator will only accept code for incubation if a PMC has voted to
accept it. So when a proposal for the donation of code occurs, the project
in question should discuss the proposal (usually on their public mailing
lists!), leading to a decision by that project’s PMC on whether or not to
sponsor the code (and potentially the project surrounding it). If the PMC
agrees, then the incubator can be approached, and the code accepted for
incubation. The grant needs to be recorded by following the procedure
outlined at the IP Clearance forms
<https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/>.

"

We passed the point of vote. The code has been accepted. Once the IP forms
are formalized, we may start the incubation process.

[]s,
Thiago.



On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> side note: we don't need to go through asf@incubator here, the vote passed
> and the project can be imported as soon as the repos are created by infra.
> The only thing to take care (and a lot) is to make clear tomitribe gives
> (donates) this code to asf. A public message on a list is generally good
> and a commit done by a tomitribe member are enough in general.
>
> In other words: let just that happen :)
>
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
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> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
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> ee-8-high-performance>
>
> 2018-02-13 10:27 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:
>
> > Yes, looking at the steps now. I will ping you later for more guidance.
> At
> > first glance, It looks like a very complex process. It's a good learning
> > opportunity.
> > Thanks man.
> >
> > []s,
> > Thiago
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'll create the tickets for infra so we have the repos ready.
> > >
> > > Can you look at the other steps?
> > > I'm not very familiar with the steps in case of code donation. So I'll
> > need
> > > to document myself as well.
> > >
> > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:10, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a
> écrit
> > :
> > >
> > > > Awesome!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks guys.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
> > > > incubator work.
> > > >
> > > > []s,
> > > > Thiago.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey Thiago.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs some
> > > > > paperwork for IP clearance.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo
> instead
> > > of
> > > > > the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit
> > happy
> > > > to
> > > > > change if the community thinks it's better.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2 projects
> > > ready
> > > > > for review.
> > > > >
> > > > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a
> > > écrit
> > > > :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack Java
> EE
> > > > JCA,
> > > > > > aren't they?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having these
> > > guys
> > > > > > there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > > > <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > > > <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org
> and
> > > > maven
> > > > > > central without going through yet another project configuration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into
> their
> > > own
> > > > > top
> > > > > > project, we can do that later.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > []s,
> > > > > > Thiago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg
> > > > <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> > > > > > > And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> > > > > > > In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history
> > lections
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was
> NOT a
> > > > good
> > > > > > > idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine
> on
> > > > > Mojarra
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to
> join
> > > > forces
> > > > > > > with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to
> > remove
> > > > any
> > > > > > > doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> > > > > > > Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most likely
> > be
> > > > > > exactly
> > > > > > > the same.
> > > > > > > So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this
> does
> > > not
> > > > > > > belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part which
> > is
> > > > > > > portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE specific.
> > In
> > > > any
> > > > > > case
> > > > > > > we must be sure which route we want to take.
> > > > > > > LieGrue,strub
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain
> Manni-Bucau
> > <
> > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  One per project
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and
> > > > chatterbox.git
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool
> or
> > > one
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > everything inside?
> > > > > > > > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That would make
> > > > > > > > tomee git repo
> > > > > > > > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > > > > > > > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > > > > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > > > > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> > > https://github.com/
> > > > > > > > > rmannibucau> |
> > > > > > > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > > > > > > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > > > > > > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > > > > > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best
> > from
> > > a
> > > > > user
> > > > > > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > > > > > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > > > > > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I
> > can.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for
> > him
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > proceed.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg,
> > > Andy
> > > > > > > > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > > > > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that
> > I'd
> > > > > like
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon
> > and
> > > > > > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache
> > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for
> discussion.
> > > (I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm
> okay
> > > with
> > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we
> > > didn't
> > > > do
> > > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert
> > > reason]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have
> time
> > > to
> > > > > > vote.
> > > > > > > > All
> > > > > > > > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the
> > better.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <
> > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
John,

What would be your advice for creating the git repos?
Usual Git in US or gitbox?

Jean-Louis

--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:

> I knew there was something.
> Thanks for the gitbox info
>
> Le 13 févr. 2018 12:26, "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org> a écrit :
>
>
>
> On 2018/02/13 09:29:37, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > side note: we don't need to go through asf@incubator here, the vote
> passed
> > and the project can be imported as soon as the repos are created by
> infra.
> > The only thing to take care (and a lot) is to make clear tomitribe gives
> > (donates) this code to asf. A public message on a list is generally good
> > and a commit done by a tomitribe member are enough in general.
>
> All code donations need to have IP Clearances filed & voted upon.  So yes,
> there's something you need to do in the Incubator.
>
> >
> > In other words: let just that happen :)
> >
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-
> high-performance>
> >
> > 2018-02-13 10:27 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:
> >
> > > Yes, looking at the steps now. I will ping you later for more
> guidance. At
> > > first glance, It looks like a very complex process. It's a good
> learning
> > > opportunity.
> > > Thanks man.
> > >
> > > []s,
> > > Thiago
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll create the tickets for infra so we have the repos ready.
> > > >
> > > > Can you look at the other steps?
> > > > I'm not very familiar with the steps in case of code donation. So
> I'll
> > > need
> > > > to document myself as well.
> > > >
> > > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:10, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a
> écrit
> > > :
> > > >
> > > > > Awesome!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks guys.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
> > > > > incubator work.
> > > > >
> > > > > []s,
> > > > > Thiago.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Thiago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs
> some
> > > > > > paperwork for IP clearance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo
> instead
> > > > of
> > > > > > the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit
> > > happy
> > > > > to
> > > > > > change if the community thinks it's better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2
> projects
> > > > ready
> > > > > > for review.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org>
> a
> > > > écrit
> > > > > :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack
> Java EE
> > > > > JCA,
> > > > > > > aren't they?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having
> these
> > > > guys
> > > > > > > there?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > > > > <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > > > > <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org
> and
> > > > > maven
> > > > > > > central without going through yet another project
> configuration.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into
> their
> > > > own
> > > > > > top
> > > > > > > project, we can do that later.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > []s,
> > > > > > > Thiago.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg
> > > > > <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> > > > > > > > And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> > > > > > > > In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history
> > > lections
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was
> NOT a
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > > idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly
> fine on
> > > > > > Mojarra
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to
> join
> > > > > forces
> > > > > > > > with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to
> > > remove
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > > doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> > > > > > > > Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most
> likely
> > > be
> > > > > > > exactly
> > > > > > > > the same.
> > > > > > > > So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this
> does
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part
> which
> > > is
> > > > > > > > portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE
> specific.
> > > In
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > case
> > > > > > > > we must be sure which route we want to take.
> > > > > > > > LieGrue,strub
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain
> Manni-Bucau
> > > <
> > > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  One per project
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and
> > > > > chatterbox.git
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm fine either way, do we want one per
> sub-project/sub-tool or
> > > > one
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > everything inside?
> > > > > > > > > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per
> contribution.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That would make
> > > > > > > > > tomee git repo
> > > > > > > > > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > > > > > > > > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > > > > > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > > > > > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> > > > https://github.com/
> > > > > > > > > > rmannibucau> |
> > > > > > > > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> |
> Book
> > > > > > > > > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > > > > > > > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > > > > > > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best
> > > from
> > > > a
> > > > > > user
> > > > > > > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > > > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > > > > > > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > > > > > > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way
> I
> > > can.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE
> for
> > > him
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > proceed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark
> Struberg,
> > > > Andy
> > > > > > > > > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > > > > > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox
> that
> > > I'd
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of
> Sheldon
> > > and
> > > > > > > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox
> <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache
> > > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for
> discussion.
> > > > (I
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm
> okay
> > > > with
> > > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we
> > > > didn't
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert
> > > > reason]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have
> time
> > > > to
> > > > > > > vote.
> > > > > > > > > All
> > > > > > > > > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the
> > > better.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
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>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
I knew there was something.
Thanks for the gitbox info

Le 13 févr. 2018 12:26, "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org> a écrit :



On 2018/02/13 09:29:37, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> side note: we don't need to go through asf@incubator here, the vote passed
> and the project can be imported as soon as the repos are created by infra.
> The only thing to take care (and a lot) is to make clear tomitribe gives
> (donates) this code to asf. A public message on a list is generally good
> and a commit done by a tomitribe member are enough in general.

All code donations need to have IP Clearances filed & voted upon.  So yes,
there's something you need to do in the Incubator.

>
> In other words: let just that happen :)
>
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
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> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
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rmannibucau> |
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ee-8-high-performance>
>
> 2018-02-13 10:27 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:
>
> > Yes, looking at the steps now. I will ping you later for more guidance.
At
> > first glance, It looks like a very complex process. It's a good learning
> > opportunity.
> > Thanks man.
> >
> > []s,
> > Thiago
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'll create the tickets for infra so we have the repos ready.
> > >
> > > Can you look at the other steps?
> > > I'm not very familiar with the steps in case of code donation. So I'll
> > need
> > > to document myself as well.
> > >
> > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:10, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a
écrit
> > :
> > >
> > > > Awesome!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks guys.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
> > > > incubator work.
> > > >
> > > > []s,
> > > > Thiago.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey Thiago.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs
some
> > > > > paperwork for IP clearance.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo
instead
> > > of
> > > > > the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit
> > happy
> > > > to
> > > > > change if the community thinks it's better.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2 projects
> > > ready
> > > > > for review.
> > > > >
> > > > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a
> > > écrit
> > > > :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack
Java EE
> > > > JCA,
> > > > > > aren't they?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having
these
> > > guys
> > > > > > there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > > > <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > > > <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org
and
> > > > maven
> > > > > > central without going through yet another project configuration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into
their
> > > own
> > > > > top
> > > > > > project, we can do that later.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > []s,
> > > > > > Thiago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg
> > > > <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> > > > > > > And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> > > > > > > In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history
> > lections
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was
NOT a
> > > > good
> > > > > > > idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine
on
> > > > > Mojarra
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to
join
> > > > forces
> > > > > > > with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to
> > remove
> > > > any
> > > > > > > doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> > > > > > > Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most
likely
> > be
> > > > > > exactly
> > > > > > > the same.
> > > > > > > So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this
does
> > > not
> > > > > > > belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part
which
> > is
> > > > > > > portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE
specific.
> > In
> > > > any
> > > > > > case
> > > > > > > we must be sure which route we want to take.
> > > > > > > LieGrue,strub
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain
Manni-Bucau
> > <
> > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  One per project
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and
> > > > chatterbox.git
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm fine either way, do we want one per
sub-project/sub-tool or
> > > one
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > everything inside?
> > > > > > > > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That would make
> > > > > > > > tomee git repo
> > > > > > > > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > > > > > > > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > > > > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > > > > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> > > https://github.com/
> > > > > > > > > rmannibucau> |
> > > > > > > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > > > > > > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > > > > > > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > > > > > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best
> > from
> > > a
> > > > > user
> > > > > > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > > > > > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > > > > > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I
> > can.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for
> > him
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > proceed.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark
Struberg,
> > > Andy
> > > > > > > > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > > > > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox
that
> > I'd
> > > > > like
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon
> > and
> > > > > > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache
> > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for
discussion.
> > > (I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm
okay
> > > with
> > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we
> > > didn't
> > > > do
> > > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert
> > > reason]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have
time
> > > to
> > > > > > vote.
> > > > > > > > All
> > > > > > > > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the
> > better.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <
> > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.

On 2018/02/13 09:29:37, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> side note: we don't need to go through asf@incubator here, the vote passed
> and the project can be imported as soon as the repos are created by infra.
> The only thing to take care (and a lot) is to make clear tomitribe gives
> (donates) this code to asf. A public message on a list is generally good
> and a commit done by a tomitribe member are enough in general.

All code donations need to have IP Clearances filed & voted upon.  So yes, there's something you need to do in the Incubator.

> 
> In other words: let just that happen :)
> 
> 
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>
> 
> 2018-02-13 10:27 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:
> 
> > Yes, looking at the steps now. I will ping you later for more guidance. At
> > first glance, It looks like a very complex process. It's a good learning
> > opportunity.
> > Thanks man.
> >
> > []s,
> > Thiago
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'll create the tickets for infra so we have the repos ready.
> > >
> > > Can you look at the other steps?
> > > I'm not very familiar with the steps in case of code donation. So I'll
> > need
> > > to document myself as well.
> > >
> > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:10, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a écrit
> > :
> > >
> > > > Awesome!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks guys.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
> > > > incubator work.
> > > >
> > > > []s,
> > > > Thiago.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey Thiago.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs some
> > > > > paperwork for IP clearance.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo instead
> > > of
> > > > > the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit
> > happy
> > > > to
> > > > > change if the community thinks it's better.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2 projects
> > > ready
> > > > > for review.
> > > > >
> > > > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a
> > > écrit
> > > > :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack Java EE
> > > > JCA,
> > > > > > aren't they?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having these
> > > guys
> > > > > > there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > > > <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > > > <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org and
> > > > maven
> > > > > > central without going through yet another project configuration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into their
> > > own
> > > > > top
> > > > > > project, we can do that later.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > []s,
> > > > > > Thiago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg
> > > > <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> > > > > > > And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> > > > > > > In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history
> > lections
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was NOT a
> > > > good
> > > > > > > idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine on
> > > > > Mojarra
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to join
> > > > forces
> > > > > > > with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to
> > remove
> > > > any
> > > > > > > doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> > > > > > > Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most likely
> > be
> > > > > > exactly
> > > > > > > the same.
> > > > > > > So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this does
> > > not
> > > > > > > belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part which
> > is
> > > > > > > portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE specific.
> > In
> > > > any
> > > > > > case
> > > > > > > we must be sure which route we want to take.
> > > > > > > LieGrue,strub
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > <
> > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  One per project
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and
> > > > chatterbox.git
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or
> > > one
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > everything inside?
> > > > > > > > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That would make
> > > > > > > > tomee git repo
> > > > > > > > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > > > > > > > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > > > > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > > > > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> > > https://github.com/
> > > > > > > > > rmannibucau> |
> > > > > > > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > > > > > > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > > > > > > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > > > > > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best
> > from
> > > a
> > > > > user
> > > > > > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > > > > > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > > > > > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I
> > can.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for
> > him
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > proceed.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg,
> > > Andy
> > > > > > > > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > > > > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that
> > I'd
> > > > > like
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon
> > and
> > > > > > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache
> > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.
> > > (I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay
> > > with
> > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we
> > > didn't
> > > > do
> > > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert
> > > reason]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time
> > > to
> > > > > > vote.
> > > > > > > > All
> > > > > > > > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the
> > better.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <
> > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
side note: we don't need to go through asf@incubator here, the vote passed
and the project can be imported as soon as the repos are created by infra.
The only thing to take care (and a lot) is to make clear tomitribe gives
(donates) this code to asf. A public message on a list is generally good
and a commit done by a tomitribe member are enough in general.

In other words: let just that happen :)


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2018-02-13 10:27 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>:

> Yes, looking at the steps now. I will ping you later for more guidance. At
> first glance, It looks like a very complex process. It's a good learning
> opportunity.
> Thanks man.
>
> []s,
> Thiago
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
>
> > I'll create the tickets for infra so we have the repos ready.
> >
> > Can you look at the other steps?
> > I'm not very familiar with the steps in case of code donation. So I'll
> need
> > to document myself as well.
> >
> > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:10, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a écrit
> :
> >
> > > Awesome!
> > >
> > > Thanks guys.
> > >
> > > Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
> > > incubator work.
> > >
> > > []s,
> > > Thiago.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Thiago.
> > > >
> > > > I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs some
> > > > paperwork for IP clearance.
> > > >
> > > > I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo instead
> > of
> > > > the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit
> happy
> > > to
> > > > change if the community thinks it's better.
> > > >
> > > > If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2 projects
> > ready
> > > > for review.
> > > >
> > > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a
> > écrit
> > > :
> > > >
> > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack Java EE
> > > JCA,
> > > > > aren't they?
> > > > >
> > > > > What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having these
> > guys
> > > > > there?
> > > > >
> > > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > > <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
> > > > >
> > > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > > <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
> > > > >
> > > > > We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org and
> > > maven
> > > > > central without going through yet another project configuration.
> > > > >
> > > > > If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into their
> > own
> > > > top
> > > > > project, we can do that later.
> > > > >
> > > > > []s,
> > > > > Thiago.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg
> > > <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> > > > > > And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> > > > > > In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history
> lections
> > > > then
> > > > > > you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was NOT a
> > > good
> > > > > > idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine on
> > > > Mojarra
> > > > > we
> > > > > > had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to join
> > > forces
> > > > > > with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to
> remove
> > > any
> > > > > > doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> > > > > > Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most likely
> be
> > > > > exactly
> > > > > > the same.
> > > > > > So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this does
> > not
> > > > > > belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part which
> is
> > > > > > portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE specific.
> In
> > > any
> > > > > case
> > > > > > we must be sure which route we want to take.
> > > > > > LieGrue,strub
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain Manni-Bucau
> <
> > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  One per project
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and
> > > chatterbox.git
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or
> > one
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > everything inside?
> > > > > > > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That would make
> > > > > > > tomee git repo
> > > > > > > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > > > > > > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > > > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
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> > https://github.com/
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> > > > > > > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > > > > > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > > > > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best
> from
> > a
> > > > user
> > > > > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > > > > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > > > > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I
> can.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for
> him
> > > and
> > > > > > > proceed.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg,
> > Andy
> > > > > > > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > > > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that
> I'd
> > > > like
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon
> and
> > > > > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache
> > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.
> > (I
> > > > have
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay
> > with
> > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we
> > didn't
> > > do
> > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert
> > reason]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time
> > to
> > > > > vote.
> > > > > > > All
> > > > > > > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the
> better.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <
> > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > >
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>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>.
Yes, looking at the steps now. I will ping you later for more guidance. At
first glance, It looks like a very complex process. It's a good learning
opportunity.
Thanks man.

[]s,
Thiago


On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:

> I'll create the tickets for infra so we have the repos ready.
>
> Can you look at the other steps?
> I'm not very familiar with the steps in case of code donation. So I'll need
> to document myself as well.
>
> Le 13 févr. 2018 10:10, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a écrit :
>
> > Awesome!
> >
> > Thanks guys.
> >
> > Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
> > incubator work.
> >
> > []s,
> > Thiago.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Thiago.
> > >
> > > I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs some
> > > paperwork for IP clearance.
> > >
> > > I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo instead
> of
> > > the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit happy
> > to
> > > change if the community thinks it's better.
> > >
> > > If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2 projects
> ready
> > > for review.
> > >
> > > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a
> écrit
> > :
> > >
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
> > > >
> > > > Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack Java EE
> > JCA,
> > > > aren't they?
> > > >
> > > > What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having these
> guys
> > > > there?
> > > >
> > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
> > > >
> > > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > > <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
> > > >
> > > > We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org and
> > maven
> > > > central without going through yet another project configuration.
> > > >
> > > > If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into their
> own
> > > top
> > > > project, we can do that later.
> > > >
> > > > []s,
> > > > Thiago.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg
> > <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> > > > > And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> > > > > In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history lections
> > > then
> > > > > you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was NOT a
> > good
> > > > > idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine on
> > > Mojarra
> > > > we
> > > > > had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to join
> > forces
> > > > > with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to remove
> > any
> > > > > doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> > > > > Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most likely be
> > > > exactly
> > > > > the same.
> > > > > So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this does
> not
> > > > > belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part which is
> > > > > portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE specific. In
> > any
> > > > case
> > > > > we must be sure which route we want to take.
> > > > > LieGrue,strub
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  One per project
> > > > >
> > > > > And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and
> > chatterbox.git
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or
> one
> > > > with
> > > > > > everything inside?
> > > > > > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That would make
> > > > > > tomee git repo
> > > > > > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > > > > > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> https://github.com/
> > > > > > > rmannibucau> |
> > > > > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > > > > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > > > > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > > > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from
> a
> > > user
> > > > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > > > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > > > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him
> > and
> > > > > > proceed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg,
> Andy
> > > > > > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd
> > > like
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and
> > > > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache
> Chatterbox
> > > > > > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.
> (I
> > > have
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay
> with
> > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we
> didn't
> > do
> > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert
> reason]
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time
> to
> > > > vote.
> > > > > > All
> > > > > > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <
> > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
I'll create the tickets for infra so we have the repos ready.

Can you look at the other steps?
I'm not very familiar with the steps in case of code donation. So I'll need
to document myself as well.

Le 13 févr. 2018 10:10, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a écrit :

> Awesome!
>
> Thanks guys.
>
> Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
> incubator work.
>
> []s,
> Thiago.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Thiago.
> >
> > I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs some
> > paperwork for IP clearance.
> >
> > I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo instead of
> > the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit happy
> to
> > change if the community thinks it's better.
> >
> > If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2 projects ready
> > for review.
> >
> > Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a écrit
> :
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
> > >
> > > Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack Java EE
> JCA,
> > > aren't they?
> > >
> > > What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having these guys
> > > there?
> > >
> > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
> > >
> > > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > > <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
> > >
> > > We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org and
> maven
> > > central without going through yet another project configuration.
> > >
> > > If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into their own
> > top
> > > project, we can do that later.
> > >
> > > []s,
> > > Thiago.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg
> <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> > > > And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> > > > In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history lections
> > then
> > > > you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was NOT a
> good
> > > > idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine on
> > Mojarra
> > > we
> > > > had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to join
> forces
> > > > with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to remove
> any
> > > > doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> > > > Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most likely be
> > > exactly
> > > > the same.
> > > > So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this does not
> > > > belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part which is
> > > > portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE specific. In
> any
> > > case
> > > > we must be sure which route we want to take.
> > > > LieGrue,strub
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  One per project
> > > >
> > > > And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> > > >
> > > > we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and
> chatterbox.git
> > > >
> > > > 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > >:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or one
> > > with
> > > > > everything inside?
> > > > > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That would make
> > > > > tomee git repo
> > > > > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > > > > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> > > > > > rmannibucau> |
> > > > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > > > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > > > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from a
> > user
> > > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him
> and
> > > > > proceed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy
> > > > > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd
> > like
> > > to
> > > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and
> > > > Chatterbox
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox
> > > > > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I
> > have
> > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with
> > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't
> do
> > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to
> > > vote.
> > > > > All
> > > > > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <
> > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>.
Awesome!

Thanks guys.

Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
incubator work.

[]s,
Thiago.


On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:

> Hey Thiago.
>
> I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs some
> paperwork for IP clearance.
>
> I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo instead of
> the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit happy to
> change if the community thinks it's better.
>
> If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2 projects ready
> for review.
>
> Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a écrit :
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
> >
> > Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack Java EE JCA,
> > aren't they?
> >
> > What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having these guys
> > there?
> >
> > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
> >
> > <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> > <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
> >
> > We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org and maven
> > central without going through yet another project configuration.
> >
> > If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into their own
> top
> > project, we can do that later.
> >
> > []s,
> > Thiago.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> > > And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> > > In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history lections
> then
> > > you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was NOT a good
> > > idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine on
> Mojarra
> > we
> > > had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to join forces
> > > with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to remove any
> > > doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> > > Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most likely be
> > exactly
> > > the same.
> > > So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this does not
> > > belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part which is
> > > portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE specific. In any
> > case
> > > we must be sure which route we want to take.
> > > LieGrue,strub
> > >
> > >
> > >     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  One per project
> > >
> > > And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> > >
> > > we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and chatterbox.git
> > >
> > > 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > >:
> > >
> > > > I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or one
> > with
> > > > everything inside?
> > > > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That would make
> > > > tomee git repo
> > > > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > > > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jean-Louis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> > > > > rmannibucau> |
> > > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > > >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from a
> user
> > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him and
> > > > proceed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy
> > > > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd
> like
> > to
> > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and
> > > Chatterbox
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox
> > > > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I
> have
> > > no
> > > > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with
> > this.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do
> > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to
> > vote.
> > > > All
> > > > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <
> http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
Hey Thiago.

I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs some
paperwork for IP clearance.

I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo instead of
the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit happy to
change if the community thinks it's better.

If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2 projects ready
for review.

Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> a écrit :

> Hi guys,
>
> I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
>
> Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack Java EE JCA,
> aren't they?
>
> What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having these guys
> there?
>
> <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
>
> <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
>
> We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org and maven
> central without going through yet another project configuration.
>
> If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into their own top
> project, we can do that later.
>
> []s,
> Thiago.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> > And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> > In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history lections then
> > you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was NOT a good
> > idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine on Mojarra
> we
> > had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to join forces
> > with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to remove any
> > doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> > Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most likely be
> exactly
> > the same.
> > So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this does not
> > belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part which is
> > portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE specific. In any
> case
> > we must be sure which route we want to take.
> > LieGrue,strub
> >
> >
> >     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  One per project
> >
> > And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> >
> > we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and chatterbox.git
> >
> > 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> >:
> >
> > > I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or one
> with
> > > everything inside?
> > > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
> > >
> > >
> > > That would make
> > > tomee git repo
> > > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> > >
> > >
> > > Jean-Louis
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> > > > rmannibucau> |
> > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > > >
> > > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > > >:
> > > >
> > > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > > >
> > > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from a user
> > > > > perspective
> > > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > > >
> > > > > WDYT?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jon
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him and
> > > proceed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy
> > > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > > David
> > > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd like
> to
> > > > > figure
> > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and
> > Chatterbox
> > > > as
> > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox
> > > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I have
> > no
> > > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with
> this.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do
> > this.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to
> vote.
> > > All
> > > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <http://twitter.com/dblevins
> >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>.
Hi guys,

I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.

Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack Java EE JCA,
aren't they?

What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having these guys
there?

<groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
<artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>

<groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
<artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>

We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org and maven
central without going through yet another project configuration.

If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into their own top
project, we can do that later.

[]s,
Thiago.





On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de.invalid>
wrote:

> +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history lections then
> you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was NOT a good
> idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine on Mojarra we
> had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to join forces
> with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to remove any
> doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most likely be exactly
> the same.
> So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this does not
> belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part which is
> portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE specific. In any case
> we must be sure which route we want to take.
> LieGrue,strub
>
>
>     On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  One per project
>
> And no need of tomee in the name ;)
>
> we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and chatterbox.git
>
> 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>:
>
> > I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or one with
> > everything inside?
> > If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
> >
> >
> > That would make
> > tomee git repo
> > tomee-sheldon git repo
> > tomee-chatterbox git repo
> >
> >
> > Jean-Louis
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > just plain new git repos IMHO
> > >
> > >
> > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> > > rmannibucau> |
> > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > > ee-8-high-performance>
> > >
> > > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> > >:
> > >
> > > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > > >
> > > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from a user
> > > > perspective
> > > > ..sheldon/
> > > > ..chatterbox/
> > > >
> > > > WDYT?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jon
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him and
> > proceed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy
> > Gumbrecht,
> > > > > David
> > > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> > johndament@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd like to
> > > > figure
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and
> Chatterbox
> > > as
> > > > > part
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox
> > > > respectively.
> > > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I have
> no
> > > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with this.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do
> this.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to vote.
> > All
> > > > > votes
> > > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <http://twitter.com/dblevins>
> > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de.INVALID>.
+1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history lections then you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was NOT a good idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine on Mojarra we had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to join forces with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to remove any doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most likely be exactly the same.
So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this does not belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part which is portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE specific. In any case we must be sure which route we want to take.
LieGrue,strub
 

    On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 One per project

And no need of tomee in the name ;)

we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and chatterbox.git

2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>:

> I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or one with
> everything inside?
> If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
>
>
> That would make
> tomee git repo
> tomee-sheldon git repo
> tomee-chatterbox git repo
>
>
> Jean-Louis
>
>
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > just plain new git repos IMHO
> >
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> > rmannibucau> |
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > ee-8-high-performance>
> >
> > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> >:
> >
> > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > >
> > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from a user
> > > perspective
> > > ..sheldon/
> > > ..chatterbox/
> > >
> > > WDYT?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him and
> proceed.
> > > > >
> > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > >
> > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy
> Gumbrecht,
> > > > David
> > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > >
> > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > >
> > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> johndament@apache.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd like to
> > > figure
> > > > > out
> > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and Chatterbox
> > as
> > > > part
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox
> > > respectively.
> > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I have no
> > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to vote.
> All
> > > > votes
> > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <http://twitter.com/dblevins>
> > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>  

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
One per project

And no need of tomee in the name ;)

we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and chatterbox.git

2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>:

> I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or one with
> everything inside?
> If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.
>
>
> That would make
> tomee git repo
> tomee-sheldon git repo
> tomee-chatterbox git repo
>
>
> Jean-Louis
>
>
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > just plain new git repos IMHO
> >
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> > rmannibucau> |
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> > ee-8-high-performance>
> >
> > 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com
> >:
> >
> > > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> > >
> > > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from a user
> > > perspective
> > > ..sheldon/
> > > ..chatterbox/
> > >
> > > WDYT?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him and
> proceed.
> > > > >
> > > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > > >
> > > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy
> Gumbrecht,
> > > > David
> > > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > >
> > > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > > >
> > > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> johndament@apache.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd like to
> > > figure
> > > > > out
> > > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > My +1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and Chatterbox
> > as
> > > > part
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox
> > > respectively.
> > > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I have no
> > > > > > preference)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to vote.
> All
> > > > votes
> > > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <http://twitter.com/dblevins>
> > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
I'm fine either way, do we want one per sub-project/sub-tool or one with
everything inside?
If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per contribution.


That would make
tomee git repo
tomee-sheldon git repo
tomee-chatterbox git repo


Jean-Louis


--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> just plain new git repos IMHO
>
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> rmannibucau> |
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> ee-8-high-performance>
>
> 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>:
>
> > In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> >
> > tomee/ (the main git project)
> > ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from a user
> > perspective
> > ..sheldon/
> > ..chatterbox/
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> > jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him and proceed.
> > > >
> > > > The VOTE passes with
> > > >
> > > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy Gumbrecht,
> > > David
> > > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > >
> > > > No 0 and no -1
> > > >
> > > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for voting
> > > > Jean-Louis
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Did you tally?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd like to
> > figure
> > > > out
> > > > > the next steps on.
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > My +1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and Chatterbox
> as
> > > part
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox
> > respectively.
> > > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I have no
> > > > > preference)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to vote.  All
> > > votes
> > > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <http://twitter.com/dblevins>
> > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
just plain new git repos IMHO


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2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>:

> In terms of source code, do we want something like this
>
> tomee/ (the main git project)
> ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from a user
> perspective
> ..sheldon/
> ..chatterbox/
>
> WDYT?
>
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him and proceed.
> > >
> > > The VOTE passes with
> > >
> > > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy Gumbrecht,
> > David
> > > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > >
> > > No 0 and no -1
> > >
> > > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> > >
> > > Thanks for voting
> > > Jean-Louis
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Did you tally?
> > > >
> > > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd like to
> figure
> > > out
> > > > the next steps on.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> david.blevins@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My +1
> > > > >
> > > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> david.blevins@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and Chatterbox as
> > part
> > > > of
> > > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox
> respectively.
> > > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I have no
> > > > preference)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to vote.  All
> > votes
> > > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <http://twitter.com/dblevins>
> > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
In terms of source code, do we want something like this

tomee/ (the main git project)
..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best from a user
perspective
..sheldon/
..chatterbox/

WDYT?

--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com> wrote:

> Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
>
> > Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him and proceed.
> >
> > The VOTE passes with
> >
> > +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy Gumbrecht,
> David
> > Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >
> > No 0 and no -1
> >
> > non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> >
> > Thanks for voting
> > Jean-Louis
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Did you tally?
> > >
> > > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd like to figure
> > out
> > > the next steps on.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <david.blevins@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > My +1
> > > >
> > > > ... will tally shortly.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > David Blevins
> > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > >
> > > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <david.blevins@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > > >
> > > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and Chatterbox as
> part
> > > of
> > > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > > >
> > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > > >
> > > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox respectively.
> > > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I have no
> > > preference)
> > > > >
> > > > > All votes welcome:
> > > > >
> > > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > > >
> > > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with this.
> > > > >
> > > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do this.
> > > > >
> > > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > > > >
> > > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to vote.  All
> votes
> > > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > David Blevins
> > > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <http://twitter.com/dblevins>
> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT] Accept Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Posted by Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>.
Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way I can.

Jon

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:

> Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE for him and proceed.
>
> The VOTE passes with
>
> +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark Struberg, Andy Gumbrecht, David
> Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
>
> No 0 and no -1
>
> non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
>
> Thanks for voting
> Jean-Louis
>
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Did you tally?
> >
> > I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox that I'd like to figure
> out
> > the next steps on.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My +1
> > >
> > > ... will tally shortly.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Blevins
> > > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >
> > > > On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> > > >
> > > > Should we accept the code donations of Sheldon and Chatterbox as part
> > of
> > > the Apache TomEE project.
> > > >
> > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> > > >  - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox <
> > > https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> > > >
> > > > They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache Chatterbox respectively.
> > > Maven groupid and java packages up for discussion.  (I have no
> > preference)
> > > >
> > > > All votes welcome:
> > > >
> > > >  +1: Let’s do this!
> > > >
> > > > +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with this.
> > > >
> > > > -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do this.
> > > >
> > > > -1: I really don't like this, because [insert reason]
> > > >
> > > > I’ll leave this up for a week so people have time to vote.  All votes
> > > are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the better.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > David Blevins
> > > > http://twitter.com/dblevins <http://twitter.com/dblevins>
> > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>