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[axis1]Decisions need to be made for svn address and mailing list

  Hi,

During the process of updating documents and web pages, two decisions 
need to be made in advance.

First, the mailing list for axis. The current mailing list is 
axis-user@ws.apache.org(of course it is no longer used), and we have two 
candidates. One is java-user@axis.apache.org for both axis1 and axis2, 
the other is axis1-java-user@axis.apache.org for axis1. Personally, I 
prefer java-user@axis.apache.org, which is much more active than the latter.

Second, the svn address. The current svn address 
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/webservices/axis/trunk/java/ is of course 
misleading, and also there lie two candidates. One is 
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis1/java, which stands for the 
axis source codes and documents, the other is 
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis/trunk/site/src/java, 
which is the axis1 site source code itself. Personally, I prefer the 
former one.

Any suggestion will be helpful, no matter positive or negtive :)

dilly(Ma Yu)
Shanghai, China


于 2010-10-8 5:38, Tom Jordahl 写道:
> Hi dilly,
>
> If you are interested in taking on a caretaker role for Axis 1.x, I can give you a hand.
>
> If you have changes (and tests!) that you want to check in to the trunk, I could do that for you, then we can get you committer status so you could then do that on your own.
>
> Note that the tentative plan is to move Axis to the Attic, which means it is a 'functional but retired' codebase.  But you could stop this if you have the time and energy to put in to moving Axis to a (final?) 1.4.1 or 1.5 release.
>
> Anyone else (Glen?) have any thoughts on how we can leverage dilly's energy here?
>
> Tom Jordahl
> Axis 1.x oldtimer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dilly [mailto:dilly2steed@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:14 AM
> To: java-dev@axis.apache.org
> Subject: Plan for updating axis(yes it is axis 1 not 2)
>
>   Hi, I am a newcomer to this mailing list.
> I have used axis 1 in servial projects as an experienced user, it is a
> good choice for the web server with jdk 1.4 or lower.
>
> But it is a pity for long-time-no-updating situation. There are many
> outdated links which are not valid and misleading. Also, some tiny
> mistakes lie in the document. Besides, serival bugs live in the JIRA for
> a long time.
>
> So as a man who wants to do something for axis 1, I have a plan for
> updating axis 1.
> 1.Update the document and the axis 1 site web pages to correct the
> outdated links which are not valid anymore, e.g., the mailing list
> address(lol:).
> 2.Update the document with axis 1 package, remove tiny mistakes.
> 3.If possible, resolve some of the old bugs.
>
> The Ultimate purpose is to announce axis 1.5. It is beyond my
> capabilities, at least now. But I can make a small step towards it,
> let's say 1.4.1?
>
> So there are the questions: Who will take my ouputs to the svn
> repository? And there is still an active axis 1 sponsor ready for
> checking my work?
>
> Any response will be grateful, thank you in advance.
>
> dilly(Ma Yu)
> Shanghai, China
> 2010-10-07
>
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Re: [axis1]Decisions need to be made for svn address and mailing list

Posted by dilly <di...@gmail.com>.
  Got it.  Though I still think java-user@axis.apache.org might be a 
better choice, I would accept the cold, silent, inactive 
axis1-java-user@axis.apache.org as the new base -_-!  Besides, the 
following discussion about axis 1 will be sent to new mailing list, 
sorry to interrupt axis2 users here.


dilly(Ma Yu)
Shanghai, China


于 2010-10-9 16:40, Andreas Veithen 写道:
> Maybe it's useful to explain a bit the background of the mailing list
> and SVN location changes. Axis and Axis2 were formerly subprojects of
> the Apache Web Services project. This is why the old mailing list
> addresses end with @ws.apache.org and the old SVN locations are under
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/. A couple of months ago,
> Axis and Axis2 have been promoted to a top level project with domain
> axis.apache.org and SVN location
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/.
>
> That required a migration of the mailing lists, and after careful
> discussion we decided that this would be a good opportunity to split
> the user list between Axis 1.x and Axis2. I understand that you would
> prefer java-user@axis.apache.org for both projects because it's more
> active, but most of the people subscribed to that list are only
> interested in Axis2. From their point of view, it's better to keep the
> Axis 1.x related discussions on a separate list. Thus, the updated
> Axis documentation should refer to axis1-java-user@axis.apache.org.
>
> With respect to the SVN locations, things are clear for the source
> code, which is now located at
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis1/java/trunk/. However, the
> site sources are still at
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis/trunk/site/src/java/,
> i.e. under the Apache Web Services project. They need to be moved
> somewhere under http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/. Taking into
> account the SVN structure that we established for the new Axis top
> level project, I think that the new location should be
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis1/java/site/. Maybe Tom can
> give his opinion here?
>
> Another thing that we need to figure out is how to publish this site
> under http://axis.apache.org, but that is the same issue as for Axis2
> (which has not yet published any new version of the site since to
> promotion to a TLP).
>
> Andreas
>
> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 04:44, dilly<di...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>   Hi,
>>
>> During the process of updating documents and web pages, two decisions need
>> to be made in advance.
>>
>> First, the mailing list for axis. The current mailing list is
>> axis-user@ws.apache.org(of course it is no longer used), and we have two
>> candidates. One is java-user@axis.apache.org for both axis1 and axis2, the
>> other is axis1-java-user@axis.apache.org for axis1. Personally, I prefer
>> java-user@axis.apache.org, which is much more active than the latter.
>>
>> Second, the svn address. The current svn address
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/webservices/axis/trunk/java/ is of course
>> misleading, and also there lie two candidates. One is
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis1/java, which stands for the axis
>> source codes and documents, the other is
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis/trunk/site/src/java, which
>> is the axis1 site source code itself. Personally, I prefer the former one.
>>
>> Any suggestion will be helpful, no matter positive or negtive :)
>>
>> dilly(Ma Yu)
>> Shanghai, China
>>
>>
>> 于 2010-10-8 5:38, Tom Jordahl 写道:
>>> Hi dilly,
>>>
>>> If you are interested in taking on a caretaker role for Axis 1.x, I can
>>> give you a hand.
>>>
>>> If you have changes (and tests!) that you want to check in to the trunk, I
>>> could do that for you, then we can get you committer status so you could
>>> then do that on your own.
>>>
>>> Note that the tentative plan is to move Axis to the Attic, which means it
>>> is a 'functional but retired' codebase.  But you could stop this if you have
>>> the time and energy to put in to moving Axis to a (final?) 1.4.1 or 1.5
>>> release.
>>>
>>> Anyone else (Glen?) have any thoughts on how we can leverage dilly's
>>> energy here?
>>>
>>> Tom Jordahl
>>> Axis 1.x oldtimer
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dilly [mailto:dilly2steed@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:14 AM
>>> To: java-dev@axis.apache.org
>>> Subject: Plan for updating axis(yes it is axis 1 not 2)
>>>
>>>   Hi, I am a newcomer to this mailing list.
>>> I have used axis 1 in servial projects as an experienced user, it is a
>>> good choice for the web server with jdk 1.4 or lower.
>>>
>>> But it is a pity for long-time-no-updating situation. There are many
>>> outdated links which are not valid and misleading. Also, some tiny
>>> mistakes lie in the document. Besides, serival bugs live in the JIRA for
>>> a long time.
>>>
>>> So as a man who wants to do something for axis 1, I have a plan for
>>> updating axis 1.
>>> 1.Update the document and the axis 1 site web pages to correct the
>>> outdated links which are not valid anymore, e.g., the mailing list
>>> address(lol:).
>>> 2.Update the document with axis 1 package, remove tiny mistakes.
>>> 3.If possible, resolve some of the old bugs.
>>>
>>> The Ultimate purpose is to announce axis 1.5. It is beyond my
>>> capabilities, at least now. But I can make a small step towards it,
>>> let's say 1.4.1?
>>>
>>> So there are the questions: Who will take my ouputs to the svn
>>> repository? And there is still an active axis 1 sponsor ready for
>>> checking my work?
>>>
>>> Any response will be grateful, thank you in advance.
>>>
>>> dilly(Ma Yu)
>>> Shanghai, China
>>> 2010-10-07
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-dev-unsubscribe@axis.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: java-dev-help@axis.apache.org
>>>
>>>
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>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-dev-unsubscribe@axis.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: java-dev-help@axis.apache.org
>>>
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>>
>>
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Re: [axis1]Decisions need to be made for svn address and mailing list

Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
Maybe it's useful to explain a bit the background of the mailing list
and SVN location changes. Axis and Axis2 were formerly subprojects of
the Apache Web Services project. This is why the old mailing list
addresses end with @ws.apache.org and the old SVN locations are under
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/. A couple of months ago,
Axis and Axis2 have been promoted to a top level project with domain
axis.apache.org and SVN location
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/.

That required a migration of the mailing lists, and after careful
discussion we decided that this would be a good opportunity to split
the user list between Axis 1.x and Axis2. I understand that you would
prefer java-user@axis.apache.org for both projects because it's more
active, but most of the people subscribed to that list are only
interested in Axis2. From their point of view, it's better to keep the
Axis 1.x related discussions on a separate list. Thus, the updated
Axis documentation should refer to axis1-java-user@axis.apache.org.

With respect to the SVN locations, things are clear for the source
code, which is now located at
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis1/java/trunk/. However, the
site sources are still at
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis/trunk/site/src/java/,
i.e. under the Apache Web Services project. They need to be moved
somewhere under http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/. Taking into
account the SVN structure that we established for the new Axis top
level project, I think that the new location should be
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis1/java/site/. Maybe Tom can
give his opinion here?

Another thing that we need to figure out is how to publish this site
under http://axis.apache.org, but that is the same issue as for Axis2
(which has not yet published any new version of the site since to
promotion to a TLP).

Andreas

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 04:44, dilly <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Hi,
>
> During the process of updating documents and web pages, two decisions need
> to be made in advance.
>
> First, the mailing list for axis. The current mailing list is
> axis-user@ws.apache.org(of course it is no longer used), and we have two
> candidates. One is java-user@axis.apache.org for both axis1 and axis2, the
> other is axis1-java-user@axis.apache.org for axis1. Personally, I prefer
> java-user@axis.apache.org, which is much more active than the latter.
>
> Second, the svn address. The current svn address
> http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/webservices/axis/trunk/java/ is of course
> misleading, and also there lie two candidates. One is
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis1/java, which stands for the axis
> source codes and documents, the other is
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis/trunk/site/src/java, which
> is the axis1 site source code itself. Personally, I prefer the former one.
>
> Any suggestion will be helpful, no matter positive or negtive :)
>
> dilly(Ma Yu)
> Shanghai, China
>
>
> 于 2010-10-8 5:38, Tom Jordahl 写道:
>>
>> Hi dilly,
>>
>> If you are interested in taking on a caretaker role for Axis 1.x, I can
>> give you a hand.
>>
>> If you have changes (and tests!) that you want to check in to the trunk, I
>> could do that for you, then we can get you committer status so you could
>> then do that on your own.
>>
>> Note that the tentative plan is to move Axis to the Attic, which means it
>> is a 'functional but retired' codebase.  But you could stop this if you have
>> the time and energy to put in to moving Axis to a (final?) 1.4.1 or 1.5
>> release.
>>
>> Anyone else (Glen?) have any thoughts on how we can leverage dilly's
>> energy here?
>>
>> Tom Jordahl
>> Axis 1.x oldtimer
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dilly [mailto:dilly2steed@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:14 AM
>> To: java-dev@axis.apache.org
>> Subject: Plan for updating axis(yes it is axis 1 not 2)
>>
>>  Hi, I am a newcomer to this mailing list.
>> I have used axis 1 in servial projects as an experienced user, it is a
>> good choice for the web server with jdk 1.4 or lower.
>>
>> But it is a pity for long-time-no-updating situation. There are many
>> outdated links which are not valid and misleading. Also, some tiny
>> mistakes lie in the document. Besides, serival bugs live in the JIRA for
>> a long time.
>>
>> So as a man who wants to do something for axis 1, I have a plan for
>> updating axis 1.
>> 1.Update the document and the axis 1 site web pages to correct the
>> outdated links which are not valid anymore, e.g., the mailing list
>> address(lol:).
>> 2.Update the document with axis 1 package, remove tiny mistakes.
>> 3.If possible, resolve some of the old bugs.
>>
>> The Ultimate purpose is to announce axis 1.5. It is beyond my
>> capabilities, at least now. But I can make a small step towards it,
>> let's say 1.4.1?
>>
>> So there are the questions: Who will take my ouputs to the svn
>> repository? And there is still an active axis 1 sponsor ready for
>> checking my work?
>>
>> Any response will be grateful, thank you in advance.
>>
>> dilly(Ma Yu)
>> Shanghai, China
>> 2010-10-07
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-dev-unsubscribe@axis.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: java-dev-help@axis.apache.org
>>
>>
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>>
>
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