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[Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Hi all,
The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a
few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the
migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply this
mail. Thanks.
--
Best Regards,
Steve Yin
Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Posted by Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>.
Hi Steve,
Yes, the branch "ia2" is ready for QA now. The earlier the power users
involve, the faster project progress we can expect.
Good idea! I hope NVDA dev team can join AOO IA2 dev work now. NVDA and
Symphony had ever corroborated for a while in 2010, they are very
professional and enthusiastic.
Your initial testing is welcome. It will be helpful for IA2 QA work.
I am sorry that I did not attend the event. I hope we can meet in the near
future. : )
Thanks.
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Steve Lee <st...@opendirective.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve, thanks Don
>
> It's good to hear you have progressed so far already.
>
> Is the work in a state ready for testing by some screen reader users
> who are very technical?
>
> If you have binaries or they are easy enough create I suggest we bring
> in the NVDA dev team in now or very soon. They have been wanting IA2
> in [A]OO for a long time, but in it's absence have been recommending
> Symphony to their users; the Java Access Bridge is a real pain for
> their users to install. They will obviously give a very thorough
> testing and should engage well at a deep technical level. One of the
> NVDA contributors has provided the Arabic support so we'd get broad
> extra testing of IA2 with i18n and RTL languages. If you feel you are
> ready then let me know and I will make the introductions.
>
> http://www.nvda-project.org/
>
> Otherwise how can I help? I have restricted cycles for the next week
> or 2. I could do some initial 'gorilla testing'.
>
> PS Steve did we meet in Boston at a Mozilla/GNOME a11y event?
>
> Steve Lee
> Programme Leader (Open Accessibility)
> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
>
>
> On 1 February 2013 14:29, Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Steve and Don,
> >
> > Thanks Don. Welcome Steve Lee! Now we can do more on AOO accessibility
> > testing, not only IA2. : )
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Donald Harbison <dp...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Steve Yin,
> >>
> >> Steve Lee from OpenDirectives is keen to help get the testing started.
> >> He's
> >> new to AOO, but an old hand with A11Y work. He's very well connected to
> >> the
> >> accessibility community and will be able to help us connect with experts
> >> for the testing process.
> >>
> >> Take it away Steve (Lee),
> >>
> >> /don
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Diego Valle,
> >> >
> >> > Welcome to join AOO IAccessible2 QA work.
> >> > We will prepare QA cases and assign some of them to you. And I hope we
> >> > can
> >> > work together at the beginning.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Diego Valle Rosado <
> >> > diegogvallerosado@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hello
> >> > >
> >> > > My name is diego valle.At the moment I study the career IT in
> Quintana
> >> > Roo,
> >> > > Mexico.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work and I'd like to be a
> >> > > QA
> >> > > volunteer. Would be a great way to learn how to get started
> >> > > programming
> >> > > OpenOffice and to help bring the benefits of OpenOffice to my
> country
> >> > > and
> >> > > the region where I live.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards
> >> > >
> >> > > Diego Valle
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 2013/1/25 Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi all,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be
> done
> >> > > > in
> >> > a
> >> > > > few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and
> ensure
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
> >> > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please
> reply
> >> > this
> >> > > > mail. Thanks.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Best Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Steve Yin
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Steve Yin
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
>
--
Best Regards,
Steve Yin
Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Posted by Steve Lee <st...@opendirective.com>.
Hi Steve, thanks Don
It's good to hear you have progressed so far already.
Is the work in a state ready for testing by some screen reader users
who are very technical?
If you have binaries or they are easy enough create I suggest we bring
in the NVDA dev team in now or very soon. They have been wanting IA2
in [A]OO for a long time, but in it's absence have been recommending
Symphony to their users; the Java Access Bridge is a real pain for
their users to install. They will obviously give a very thorough
testing and should engage well at a deep technical level. One of the
NVDA contributors has provided the Arabic support so we'd get broad
extra testing of IA2 with i18n and RTL languages. If you feel you are
ready then let me know and I will make the introductions.
http://www.nvda-project.org/
Otherwise how can I help? I have restricted cycles for the next week
or 2. I could do some initial 'gorilla testing'.
PS Steve did we meet in Boston at a Mozilla/GNOME a11y event?
Steve Lee
Programme Leader (Open Accessibility)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
On 1 February 2013 14:29, Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve and Don,
>
> Thanks Don. Welcome Steve Lee! Now we can do more on AOO accessibility
> testing, not only IA2. : )
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Donald Harbison <dp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve Yin,
>>
>> Steve Lee from OpenDirectives is keen to help get the testing started.
>> He's
>> new to AOO, but an old hand with A11Y work. He's very well connected to
>> the
>> accessibility community and will be able to help us connect with experts
>> for the testing process.
>>
>> Take it away Steve (Lee),
>>
>> /don
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Diego Valle,
>> >
>> > Welcome to join AOO IAccessible2 QA work.
>> > We will prepare QA cases and assign some of them to you. And I hope we
>> > can
>> > work together at the beginning.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Diego Valle Rosado <
>> > diegogvallerosado@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hello
>> > >
>> > > My name is diego valle.At the moment I study the career IT in Quintana
>> > Roo,
>> > > Mexico.
>> > >
>> > > I'm interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work and I'd like to be a
>> > > QA
>> > > volunteer. Would be a great way to learn how to get started
>> > > programming
>> > > OpenOffice and to help bring the benefits of OpenOffice to my country
>> > > and
>> > > the region where I live.
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > > Diego Valle
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2013/1/25 Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
>> > >
>> > > > Hi all,
>> > > >
>> > > > The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done
>> > > > in
>> > a
>> > > > few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure
>> > > > the
>> > > > migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
>> > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
>> > > >
>> > > > If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply
>> > this
>> > > > mail. Thanks.
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Best Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Steve Yin
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Steve Yin
>> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Steve Yin
Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Posted by Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>.
Hi Steve and Don,
Thanks Don. Welcome Steve Lee! Now we can do more on AOO accessibility
testing, not only IA2. : )
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Donald Harbison <dp...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Steve Yin,
>
> Steve Lee from OpenDirectives is keen to help get the testing started. He's
> new to AOO, but an old hand with A11Y work. He's very well connected to the
> accessibility community and will be able to help us connect with experts
> for the testing process.
>
> Take it away Steve (Lee),
>
> /don
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Diego Valle,
> >
> > Welcome to join AOO IAccessible2 QA work.
> > We will prepare QA cases and assign some of them to you. And I hope we
> can
> > work together at the beginning.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Diego Valle Rosado <
> > diegogvallerosado@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > My name is diego valle.At the moment I study the career IT in Quintana
> > Roo,
> > > Mexico.
> > >
> > > I'm interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work and I'd like to be a QA
> > > volunteer. Would be a great way to learn how to get started programming
> > > OpenOffice and to help bring the benefits of OpenOffice to my country
> and
> > > the region where I live.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Diego Valle
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/1/25 Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done
> in
> > a
> > > > few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure
> the
> > > > migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
> > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
> > > >
> > > > If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply
> > this
> > > > mail. Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Steve Yin
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
>
--
Best Regards,
Steve Yin
Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Posted by Donald Harbison <dp...@gmail.com>.
Hi Steve Yin,
Steve Lee from OpenDirectives is keen to help get the testing started. He's
new to AOO, but an old hand with A11Y work. He's very well connected to the
accessibility community and will be able to help us connect with experts
for the testing process.
Take it away Steve (Lee),
/don
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Diego Valle,
>
> Welcome to join AOO IAccessible2 QA work.
> We will prepare QA cases and assign some of them to you. And I hope we can
> work together at the beginning.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Diego Valle Rosado <
> diegogvallerosado@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > My name is diego valle.At the moment I study the career IT in Quintana
> Roo,
> > Mexico.
> >
> > I'm interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work and I'd like to be a QA
> > volunteer. Would be a great way to learn how to get started programming
> > OpenOffice and to help bring the benefits of OpenOffice to my country and
> > the region where I live.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Diego Valle
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/25 Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in
> a
> > > few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the
> > > migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
> > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
> > >
> > > If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply
> this
> > > mail. Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Steve Yin
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Steve Yin
>
Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Posted by Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>.
Hi Diego Valle,
Welcome to join AOO IAccessible2 QA work.
We will prepare QA cases and assign some of them to you. And I hope we can
work together at the beginning.
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Diego Valle Rosado <
diegogvallerosado@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello
>
> My name is diego valle.At the moment I study the career IT in Quintana Roo,
> Mexico.
>
> I'm interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work and I'd like to be a QA
> volunteer. Would be a great way to learn how to get started programming
> OpenOffice and to help bring the benefits of OpenOffice to my country and
> the region where I live.
>
> Regards
>
> Diego Valle
>
>
> 2013/1/25 Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a
> > few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the
> > migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
> >
> > If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply this
> > mail. Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
>
--
Best Regards,
Steve Yin
Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Posted by Diego Valle Rosado <di...@gmail.com>.
Hello
My name is diego valle.At the moment I study the career IT in Quintana Roo,
Mexico.
I'm interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work and I'd like to be a QA
volunteer. Would be a great way to learn how to get started programming
OpenOffice and to help bring the benefits of OpenOffice to my country and
the region where I live.
Regards
Diego Valle
2013/1/25 Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
> Hi all,
>
> The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a
> few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the
> migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
>
> If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply this
> mail. Thanks.
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Steve Yin
>
Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Posted by Fan Zheng <zh...@gmail.com>.
Great works, Steve, Well done!
And I think you may give some certain corresponding FVT cases to the QA
volenteers, if there exist.
2013/1/25 Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
> Hi Simon,
>
> For the AOO IAccessible2 testing tools, I think a screen reader which can
> support IA2 is required. We recommand JAWS for IA2 testing. And for the IA2
> attributes or events information testing, AccProbe is preferred.
>
> Link for AccProbe:
> http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yweb/util/accprobe/
> Link for JAWS:
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/products/fs/jaws-product-page.asp
>
> The demo JAWS is fully functional, but require a computer reboot after 40
> minutes if you wish to continue using the product.
>
> As an IAccessble2 QA volunteer, you may need to know how to use JAWS, such
> as the JAWS functions and their short cut keys. Using AccProble can view
> the IA2 attributes and events. The document for IAccessible2 API can be
> found here
>
> http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/accessibility/iaccessible2
> .
> In short, for the accessibility testing, what we need is to simulate blind
> users, try to find no accessible parts of the application and fix them.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Shenfeng Liu <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Steve,
> > Thanks very much for your work on the Accessibility development work!
> > For the calling for Accessibility QA volunteers, I wonder if there is
> any
> > skill requirement, or tool that we prefer to use in testing?
> >
> > - Shenfeng (Simon)
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/25 Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in
> a
> > > few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the
> > > migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
> > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
> > >
> > > If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply
> this
> > > mail. Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Steve Yin
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Steve Yin
>
Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Posted by Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>.
Hi Simon,
For the AOO IAccessible2 testing tools, I think a screen reader which can
support IA2 is required. We recommand JAWS for IA2 testing. And for the IA2
attributes or events information testing, AccProbe is preferred.
Link for AccProbe:
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yweb/util/accprobe/
Link for JAWS:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/products/fs/jaws-product-page.asp
The demo JAWS is fully functional, but require a computer reboot after 40
minutes if you wish to continue using the product.
As an IAccessble2 QA volunteer, you may need to know how to use JAWS, such
as the JAWS functions and their short cut keys. Using AccProble can view
the IA2 attributes and events. The document for IAccessible2 API can be
found here
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/accessibility/iaccessible2.
In short, for the accessibility testing, what we need is to simulate blind
users, try to find no accessible parts of the application and fix them.
Thanks.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Shenfeng Liu <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> Thanks very much for your work on the Accessibility development work!
> For the calling for Accessibility QA volunteers, I wonder if there is any
> skill requirement, or tool that we prefer to use in testing?
>
> - Shenfeng (Simon)
>
>
> 2013/1/25 Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a
> > few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the
> > migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
> >
> > If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply this
> > mail. Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
>
--
Best Regards,
Steve Yin
Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Posted by Shenfeng Liu <li...@gmail.com>.
Steve,
Thanks very much for your work on the Accessibility development work!
For the calling for Accessibility QA volunteers, I wonder if there is any
skill requirement, or tool that we prefer to use in testing?
- Shenfeng (Simon)
2013/1/25 Steve Yin <st...@gmail.com>
> Hi all,
>
> The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a
> few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the
> migration quality. This work will be started on the branch "ia2".
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2
>
> If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply this
> mail. Thanks.
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Steve Yin
>