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Posted to dev@hbase.apache.org by Stack <st...@duboce.net> on 2010/04/07 19:04:28 UTC

[VOTE] HBase as an Apache top-level project? Re: [DISCUSS] HBase as Apache top-level project?

Do we want to become an Apache top-level project?

Please vote.

(I'm +1)

Thanks,
St.Ack

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> I'd like to start a discussion about promoting HBase from a Hadoop
> sub-project to a top-level Apache project (TLP).
>
> This is not yet a vote.  Once we have established general
> understanding and agreement, I'll call a vote.
>
> I propose we move HBase from hadoop.apache.org/hbase to
> hbase.apache.org.  HBase would then have it's own Project Management
> Committee (PMC) so that it can elect committers and create releases on
> its own.  Currently these actions require votes by the Hadoop PMC.
> However I think HBase now has a sufficiently large, diverse and
> distinct community that it can fend for itself.
>
> I suggest that initial HBase PMC consist of all active HBase
> committers at the time we make the formal proposal.  This is typical
> for new TLPs. (Subsequently PMCs tend to promote committers to the
> PMC.  The Hadoop PMC generally promotes committers to the PMC after a
> year of consistent activity, while some projects immediately add new
> committers to their PMC.  But we don't need to decide our policy for
> new PMC membership now, only the makeup of the initial PMC.)
>
> I nominate myself as the initial chair of the HBase PMC, with the
> proviso that we adopt a policy of regular chair replacement.  I
> suggest that HBase PMC chairs serve a one or two-year term.  A PMC
> chair has no more power than other PMC members, but rather has a few
> more duties.  In particular, the chair must submit written quarterly
> reports to the board describing the health of the projects developer
> community.  The chair also maintains subversion permissions and
> committer account creation.
>
> Do these proposal sound reasonable?  Any improvements or questions?
>
> For some background, please read:
>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles
>
> The steps I imagine are roughly:
>  - discussion by HBase developers (what I'm starting here today)
>  - vote by HBase developers
>  - discussion by Hadoop PMC
>  - vote by Hadoop PMC
>  - draft resolution sent to board
>  - board votes on resolution to form TLP
>
> Formally, the board alone has the power to create a TLP: all prior
> steps are merely an ordered means to make the case to the board that
> all involved parties support such an action.
>
> Thanks,
>
> St.Ack
>
> (Above is a message Doug Cutting sent to the Avro dev list after doing
> a s/Avro/HBase/)
>

Re: [VOTE] HBase as an Apache top-level project? Re: [DISCUSS] HBase as Apache top-level project?

Posted by Jean-Daniel Cryans <jd...@apache.org>.
+1

J-D

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> Do we want to become an Apache top-level project?
>
> Please vote.
>
> (I'm +1)
>
> Thanks,
> St.Ack
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
>> I'd like to start a discussion about promoting HBase from a Hadoop
>> sub-project to a top-level Apache project (TLP).
>>
>> This is not yet a vote.  Once we have established general
>> understanding and agreement, I'll call a vote.
>>
>> I propose we move HBase from hadoop.apache.org/hbase to
>> hbase.apache.org.  HBase would then have it's own Project Management
>> Committee (PMC) so that it can elect committers and create releases on
>> its own.  Currently these actions require votes by the Hadoop PMC.
>> However I think HBase now has a sufficiently large, diverse and
>> distinct community that it can fend for itself.
>>
>> I suggest that initial HBase PMC consist of all active HBase
>> committers at the time we make the formal proposal.  This is typical
>> for new TLPs. (Subsequently PMCs tend to promote committers to the
>> PMC.  The Hadoop PMC generally promotes committers to the PMC after a
>> year of consistent activity, while some projects immediately add new
>> committers to their PMC.  But we don't need to decide our policy for
>> new PMC membership now, only the makeup of the initial PMC.)
>>
>> I nominate myself as the initial chair of the HBase PMC, with the
>> proviso that we adopt a policy of regular chair replacement.  I
>> suggest that HBase PMC chairs serve a one or two-year term.  A PMC
>> chair has no more power than other PMC members, but rather has a few
>> more duties.  In particular, the chair must submit written quarterly
>> reports to the board describing the health of the projects developer
>> community.  The chair also maintains subversion permissions and
>> committer account creation.
>>
>> Do these proposal sound reasonable?  Any improvements or questions?
>>
>> For some background, please read:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles
>>
>> The steps I imagine are roughly:
>>  - discussion by HBase developers (what I'm starting here today)
>>  - vote by HBase developers
>>  - discussion by Hadoop PMC
>>  - vote by Hadoop PMC
>>  - draft resolution sent to board
>>  - board votes on resolution to form TLP
>>
>> Formally, the board alone has the power to create a TLP: all prior
>> steps are merely an ordered means to make the case to the board that
>> all involved parties support such an action.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> St.Ack
>>
>> (Above is a message Doug Cutting sent to the Avro dev list after doing
>> a s/Avro/HBase/)
>>
>

Re: [VOTE] HBase as an Apache top-level project? Re: [DISCUSS] HBase as Apache top-level project?

Posted by Lars George <la...@gmail.com>.
+1

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Ryan Rawson <ry...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I vote in favor of becoming a TLP.
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Gray <jg...@facebook.com> wrote:
>> +1
>>
>> JG
>>
>> On 4/7/10 10:11 AM, "Andrew Purtell" <ap...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Thanks for taking the initiative Stack and taking on lead for the first year.
>>>
>>>    - Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [VOTE] HBase as an Apache top-level project? Re: [DISCUSS] HBase as Apache top-level project?

Posted by Ryan Rawson <ry...@gmail.com>.
I vote in favor of becoming a TLP.

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Gray <jg...@facebook.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> JG
>
> On 4/7/10 10:11 AM, "Andrew Purtell" <ap...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> Thanks for taking the initiative Stack and taking on lead for the first year.
>>
>>    - Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [VOTE] HBase as an Apache top-level project? Re: [DISCUSS] HBase as Apache top-level project?

Posted by Jonathan Gray <jg...@facebook.com>.
+1

JG

On 4/7/10 10:11 AM, "Andrew Purtell" <ap...@apache.org> wrote:

> +1
> 
> Thanks for taking the initiative Stack and taking on lead for the first year.
> 
>    - Andy
> 
> 
> 
>       
> 


Re: [VOTE] HBase as an Apache top-level project? Re: [DISCUSS] HBase as Apache top-level project?

Posted by Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>.
+1

Thanks for taking the initiative Stack and taking on lead for the first year.

   - Andy