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Posted to dev@tomee.apache.org by Richard Zowalla <ri...@zowalla.com> on 2023/04/26 09:25:33 UTC

Clean up Jira?

Hi all,

We have a huge mess of open issues, which are very old and are
targeting 1.7.x, 7.0.x or 7.1.x. 

Some of these issues are already fixed (reporter didn't respond, issue
was never closed), had no activity for years now (ie. was a config
issue by the user, no response to questions) or are badly written, so
they cannot be reproduced anyway.

I think, that this mess hinders new contributors in finding adequate
tasks as it is totally unclear, which of these issues are worth to be
worked on.

Given that we eol'ed 1.7.x, 7.0.x and 7.1.x, we can (imho) close most
of the related issues. With our limited resources, it is impossible to
test, if these issues are still encountered in 8.0.x, 9.x or 10.x 

I would like to propose to clean up our Jira, ie close most of these
orphaned / stale issues as "won't fix" because of "no activity" or
"eol'ed" target versions. Closing the issues won't affect the
searchability nor do we loose information. It just provide some more
clarity for the actual tasks we are working on.

If a reporter is still interested or a issue still bothers him/her, the
issue can re-opened and correctly updated with a (still supported)
target version. 

Thoughts?

Gruß
Richard

Re: Clean up Jira?

Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
Awesome

yes a lot of emails .... ;-)

--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com


On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:50 PM Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org> wrote:

> Just did some cleanup - sorry for the mail spam.
>
> Closed a lot of old or badly written issues targeting 1.7.x, 7.0.x and
> 7.1.x - feel free to re-open or update the fixed version, if it was
> wrongly closed.
>
> I am planning to do another session to triage the issues targeting 8.x,
> so we have a better view, which of these issues / bugs might also be
> relevant for 9.x and 10.x
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
>
>
> Am Dienstag, dem 02.05.2023 um 08:29 +0200 schrieb Richard Zowalla:
> > That is my impression too ;)
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback. If no one objects, I will plan to start some
> > cleaning action next week.
> >
> > Gruß
> > Richard
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, dem 26.04.2023 um 12:28 +0200 schrieb Jean-Louis
> > Monteiro:
> > > I would agree.
> > > The benefit of keeping history is probably hurting us to welcome
> > > new
> > > contributors. And even worse, a lot of issues only have titles if I
> > > recall
> > > last time I looked at this problem, so maybe just the reporter
> > > remembers
> > > (?) if this is still accurate and what it means.
> > > --
> > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thomas Andraschko <
> > > andraschko.thomas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > Richard Zowalla <ri...@zowalla.com> schrieb am Mi., 26. Apr.
> > > > 2023,
> > > > 11:26:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > We have a huge mess of open issues, which are very old and are
> > > > > targeting 1.7.x, 7.0.x or 7.1.x.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some of these issues are already fixed (reporter didn't
> > > > > respond,
> > > > > issue
> > > > > was never closed), had no activity for years now (ie. was a
> > > > > config
> > > > > issue by the user, no response to questions) or are badly
> > > > > written, so
> > > > > they cannot be reproduced anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think, that this mess hinders new contributors in finding
> > > > > adequate
> > > > > tasks as it is totally unclear, which of these issues are worth
> > > > > to be
> > > > > worked on.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given that we eol'ed 1.7.x, 7.0.x and 7.1.x, we can (imho)
> > > > > close
> > > > > most
> > > > > of the related issues. With our limited resources, it is
> > > > > impossible to
> > > > > test, if these issues are still encountered in 8.0.x, 9.x or
> > > > > 10.x
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to propose to clean up our Jira, ie close most of
> > > > > these
> > > > > orphaned / stale issues as "won't fix" because of "no activity"
> > > > > or
> > > > > "eol'ed" target versions. Closing the issues won't affect the
> > > > > searchability nor do we loose information. It just provide some
> > > > > more
> > > > > clarity for the actual tasks we are working on.
> > > > >
> > > > > If a reporter is still interested or a issue still bothers
> > > > > him/her, the
> > > > > issue can re-opened and correctly updated with a (still
> > > > > supported)
> > > > > target version.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Gruß
> > > > > Richard
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
>

Re: Clean up Jira?

Posted by Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>.
Just did some cleanup - sorry for the mail spam.

Closed a lot of old or badly written issues targeting 1.7.x, 7.0.x and
7.1.x - feel free to re-open or update the fixed version, if it was
wrongly closed.

I am planning to do another session to triage the issues targeting 8.x,
so we have a better view, which of these issues / bugs might also be
relevant for 9.x and 10.x

Gruß
Richard



Am Dienstag, dem 02.05.2023 um 08:29 +0200 schrieb Richard Zowalla:
> That is my impression too ;)
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. If no one objects, I will plan to start some
> cleaning action next week.
> 
> Gruß
> Richard
> 
> Am Mittwoch, dem 26.04.2023 um 12:28 +0200 schrieb Jean-Louis
> Monteiro:
> > I would agree.
> > The benefit of keeping history is probably hurting us to welcome
> > new
> > contributors. And even worse, a lot of issues only have titles if I
> > recall
> > last time I looked at this problem, so maybe just the reporter
> > remembers
> > (?) if this is still accurate and what it means.
> > --
> > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thomas Andraschko <
> > andraschko.thomas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > +1
> > > 
> > > Richard Zowalla <ri...@zowalla.com> schrieb am Mi., 26. Apr.
> > > 2023,
> > > 11:26:
> > > 
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > We have a huge mess of open issues, which are very old and are
> > > > targeting 1.7.x, 7.0.x or 7.1.x.
> > > > 
> > > > Some of these issues are already fixed (reporter didn't
> > > > respond,
> > > > issue
> > > > was never closed), had no activity for years now (ie. was a
> > > > config
> > > > issue by the user, no response to questions) or are badly
> > > > written, so
> > > > they cannot be reproduced anyway.
> > > > 
> > > > I think, that this mess hinders new contributors in finding
> > > > adequate
> > > > tasks as it is totally unclear, which of these issues are worth
> > > > to be
> > > > worked on.
> > > > 
> > > > Given that we eol'ed 1.7.x, 7.0.x and 7.1.x, we can (imho)
> > > > close
> > > > most
> > > > of the related issues. With our limited resources, it is
> > > > impossible to
> > > > test, if these issues are still encountered in 8.0.x, 9.x or
> > > > 10.x
> > > > 
> > > > I would like to propose to clean up our Jira, ie close most of
> > > > these
> > > > orphaned / stale issues as "won't fix" because of "no activity"
> > > > or
> > > > "eol'ed" target versions. Closing the issues won't affect the
> > > > searchability nor do we loose information. It just provide some
> > > > more
> > > > clarity for the actual tasks we are working on.
> > > > 
> > > > If a reporter is still interested or a issue still bothers
> > > > him/her, the
> > > > issue can re-opened and correctly updated with a (still
> > > > supported)
> > > > target version.
> > > > 
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > > 
> > > > Gruß
> > > > Richard
> > > > 
> > > 
> 


Re: Clean up Jira?

Posted by Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>.
That is my impression too ;)

Thanks for the feedback. If no one objects, I will plan to start some
cleaning action next week.

Gruß
Richard

Am Mittwoch, dem 26.04.2023 um 12:28 +0200 schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro:
> I would agree.
> The benefit of keeping history is probably hurting us to welcome new
> contributors. And even worse, a lot of issues only have titles if I
> recall
> last time I looked at this problem, so maybe just the reporter
> remembers
> (?) if this is still accurate and what it means.
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thomas Andraschko <
> andraschko.thomas@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > +1
> > 
> > Richard Zowalla <ri...@zowalla.com> schrieb am Mi., 26. Apr.
> > 2023,
> > 11:26:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > We have a huge mess of open issues, which are very old and are
> > > targeting 1.7.x, 7.0.x or 7.1.x.
> > > 
> > > Some of these issues are already fixed (reporter didn't respond,
> > > issue
> > > was never closed), had no activity for years now (ie. was a
> > > config
> > > issue by the user, no response to questions) or are badly
> > > written, so
> > > they cannot be reproduced anyway.
> > > 
> > > I think, that this mess hinders new contributors in finding
> > > adequate
> > > tasks as it is totally unclear, which of these issues are worth
> > > to be
> > > worked on.
> > > 
> > > Given that we eol'ed 1.7.x, 7.0.x and 7.1.x, we can (imho) close
> > > most
> > > of the related issues. With our limited resources, it is
> > > impossible to
> > > test, if these issues are still encountered in 8.0.x, 9.x or 10.x
> > > 
> > > I would like to propose to clean up our Jira, ie close most of
> > > these
> > > orphaned / stale issues as "won't fix" because of "no activity"
> > > or
> > > "eol'ed" target versions. Closing the issues won't affect the
> > > searchability nor do we loose information. It just provide some
> > > more
> > > clarity for the actual tasks we are working on.
> > > 
> > > If a reporter is still interested or a issue still bothers
> > > him/her, the
> > > issue can re-opened and correctly updated with a (still
> > > supported)
> > > target version.
> > > 
> > > Thoughts?
> > > 
> > > Gruß
> > > Richard
> > > 
> > 


Re: Clean up Jira?

Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
I would agree.
The benefit of keeping history is probably hurting us to welcome new
contributors. And even worse, a lot of issues only have titles if I recall
last time I looked at this problem, so maybe just the reporter remembers
(?) if this is still accurate and what it means.
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com


On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thomas Andraschko <
andraschko.thomas@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
>
> Richard Zowalla <ri...@zowalla.com> schrieb am Mi., 26. Apr. 2023,
> 11:26:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We have a huge mess of open issues, which are very old and are
> > targeting 1.7.x, 7.0.x or 7.1.x.
> >
> > Some of these issues are already fixed (reporter didn't respond, issue
> > was never closed), had no activity for years now (ie. was a config
> > issue by the user, no response to questions) or are badly written, so
> > they cannot be reproduced anyway.
> >
> > I think, that this mess hinders new contributors in finding adequate
> > tasks as it is totally unclear, which of these issues are worth to be
> > worked on.
> >
> > Given that we eol'ed 1.7.x, 7.0.x and 7.1.x, we can (imho) close most
> > of the related issues. With our limited resources, it is impossible to
> > test, if these issues are still encountered in 8.0.x, 9.x or 10.x
> >
> > I would like to propose to clean up our Jira, ie close most of these
> > orphaned / stale issues as "won't fix" because of "no activity" or
> > "eol'ed" target versions. Closing the issues won't affect the
> > searchability nor do we loose information. It just provide some more
> > clarity for the actual tasks we are working on.
> >
> > If a reporter is still interested or a issue still bothers him/her, the
> > issue can re-opened and correctly updated with a (still supported)
> > target version.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Gruß
> > Richard
> >
>

Re: Clean up Jira?

Posted by Thomas Andraschko <an...@gmail.com>.
+1

Richard Zowalla <ri...@zowalla.com> schrieb am Mi., 26. Apr. 2023, 11:26:

> Hi all,
>
> We have a huge mess of open issues, which are very old and are
> targeting 1.7.x, 7.0.x or 7.1.x.
>
> Some of these issues are already fixed (reporter didn't respond, issue
> was never closed), had no activity for years now (ie. was a config
> issue by the user, no response to questions) or are badly written, so
> they cannot be reproduced anyway.
>
> I think, that this mess hinders new contributors in finding adequate
> tasks as it is totally unclear, which of these issues are worth to be
> worked on.
>
> Given that we eol'ed 1.7.x, 7.0.x and 7.1.x, we can (imho) close most
> of the related issues. With our limited resources, it is impossible to
> test, if these issues are still encountered in 8.0.x, 9.x or 10.x
>
> I would like to propose to clean up our Jira, ie close most of these
> orphaned / stale issues as "won't fix" because of "no activity" or
> "eol'ed" target versions. Closing the issues won't affect the
> searchability nor do we loose information. It just provide some more
> clarity for the actual tasks we are working on.
>
> If a reporter is still interested or a issue still bothers him/her, the
> issue can re-opened and correctly updated with a (still supported)
> target version.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>