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Drop J4 support, was: Re: release process
--- On Sun, 11/16/08, Musachy Barroso wrote:
> I know someone already asked this but, shouldn't we drop
> the jdk4 support already?
+1, but I'll add a wiki page giving a brief overview of the retro process ("Run this batch file, loser!")
Dave
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Re: Drop J4 support, was: Re: release process
Posted by Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>.
Just a reminder: Sun isn't the only JDK vendor; I know of a lot of WebFears and WebIllogics that aren't running 1.5.
I'm still in favor of dropping support, but it's not reasonable to make a blanket assumption that just because Sun EOL'd 1.4 that (a) scads of people aren't still running 1.4, and (b) people only run Sun JVMs.
Dave
--- On Sun, 11/16/08, Al Sutton <al...@alsutton.com> wrote:
> Sun ended support for Java 1.4 at the end of last month[1],
> so it would seem reasonable to drop support for 2.1
>
> Al.
>
> http://java.sun.com/products/archive/eol.policy.html
>
> Rainer Hermanns wrote:
> > I'd vote with +1 for dropping j4-support in Struts
> 2.1.X
> > but with -1 for Struts 2.0.X because of known users
> using
> > previous 2.0.X backported releases and that are
> waiting for
> > another stable GA release for their production
> systems.
> >
> > just my 0.02€,
> > cheers,
> > Rainer
> >
> >
> >> Yes, my thoughts were on that direction, drop out
> direct support and
> >> document what needs to be done, for those that
> still need it.
> >>
> >> musachy
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Dave Newton
> <ne...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Musachy Barroso wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I know someone already asked this but,
> shouldn't we drop
> >>>> the jdk4 support already?
> >>>>
> >>> +1, but I'll add a wiki page giving a
> brief overview of the retro
> >>> process
> >>> ("Run this batch file, loser!")
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Drop J4 support, was: Re: release process
Posted by Al Sutton <al...@alsutton.com>.
Sun ended support for Java 1.4 at the end of last month[1], so it would
seem reasonable to drop support for 2.1
Al.
http://java.sun.com/products/archive/eol.policy.html
Rainer Hermanns wrote:
> I'd vote with +1 for dropping j4-support in Struts 2.1.X
> but with -1 for Struts 2.0.X because of known users using
> previous 2.0.X backported releases and that are waiting for
> another stable GA release for their production systems.
>
> just my 0.02€,
> cheers,
> Rainer
>
>
>> Yes, my thoughts were on that direction, drop out direct support and
>> document what needs to be done, for those that still need it.
>>
>> musachy
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Musachy Barroso wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know someone already asked this but, shouldn't we drop
>>>> the jdk4 support already?
>>>>
>>> +1, but I'll add a wiki page giving a brief overview of the retro
>>> process
>>> ("Run this batch file, loser!")
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
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Re: Drop J4 support, was: Re: release process
Posted by Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com>.
Just removing it from the build won't do, as the dependencies are
still in assembly/pom.xml. We cannot remove them, because the j4
profile won't work, so I am not sure what to do in this case.
musachy
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> jdk 4 jars generation was removed from the default build in the
> release_process branch. Just doing 'mvn package -P j4' should be enough to
> generate the jdk 4 jars.
>
> //Goodbye j4, you won't be missed :)
>
> musachy
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Nils-Helge Garli Hegvik <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I though this had been decided already, but +1 for dropping it in 2.1
>> and keeping it in 2.0.x.
>>
>> Nils-H
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net>
>> wrote:
>> > +1 for dropping in 2.1, along with keeping it in 2.0.X
>> >
>> > Rainer Hermanns schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> I'd vote with +1 for dropping j4-support in Struts 2.1.X
>> >> but with -1 for Struts 2.0.X because of known users using
>> >> previous 2.0.X backported releases and that are waiting for
>> >> another stable GA release for their production systems.
>> >>
>> >> just my 0.02€,
>> >> cheers,
>> >> Rainer
>> >>
>> >>> Yes, my thoughts were on that direction, drop out direct support and
>> >>> document what needs to be done, for those that still need it.
>> >>>
>> >>> musachy
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Musachy Barroso wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I know someone already asked this but, shouldn't we drop
>> >>>>> the jdk4 support already?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> +1, but I'll add a wiki page giving a brief overview of the retro
>> >>>> process
>> >>>> ("Run this batch file, loser!")
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dave
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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Re: Drop J4 support, was: Re: release process
Posted by Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com>.
That's what it was called before(I think it is called j4 in xwork also). But
you have a good point.
musachy
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > jdk 4 jars generation was removed from the default build in the
> > release_process branch. Just doing 'mvn package -P j4' should be enough
> to
> > generate the jdk 4 jars.
>
>
> Is there a reason we're calling the profile 'j4'? There isn't, and wasn't,
> a
> Java 4, and I've never seen J4 used to mean JDK 1.4 or JRE 1.4 before.
> Perhaps we should use a name that people might recognise, like jdk14? Or is
> 'j4' supposed to mean something else?
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>
>
> > //Goodbye j4, you won't be missed :)
> >
> > musachy
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Nils-Helge Garli Hegvik
> > <ni...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > I though this had been decided already, but +1 for dropping it in 2.1
> > > and keeping it in 2.0.x.
> > >
> > > Nils-H
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > +1 for dropping in 2.1, along with keeping it in 2.0.X
> > > >
> > > > Rainer Hermanns schrieb:
> > > >>
> > > >> I'd vote with +1 for dropping j4-support in Struts 2.1.X
> > > >> but with -1 for Struts 2.0.X because of known users using
> > > >> previous 2.0.X backported releases and that are waiting for
> > > >> another stable GA release for their production systems.
> > > >>
> > > >> just my 0.02€,
> > > >> cheers,
> > > >> Rainer
> > > >>
> > > >>> Yes, my thoughts were on that direction, drop out direct support
> and
> > > >>> document what needs to be done, for those that still need it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> musachy
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Dave Newton <
> newton.dave@yahoo.com
> > >
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Musachy Barroso wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I know someone already asked this but, shouldn't we drop
> > > >>>>> the jdk4 support already?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> +1, but I'll add a wiki page giving a brief overview of the retro
> > > >>>> process
> > > >>>> ("Run this batch file, loser!")
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Dave
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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Re: Drop J4 support, was: Re: release process
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> jdk 4 jars generation was removed from the default build in the
> release_process branch. Just doing 'mvn package -P j4' should be enough to
> generate the jdk 4 jars.
Is there a reason we're calling the profile 'j4'? There isn't, and wasn't, a
Java 4, and I've never seen J4 used to mean JDK 1.4 or JRE 1.4 before.
Perhaps we should use a name that people might recognise, like jdk14? Or is
'j4' supposed to mean something else?
--
Martin Cooper
> //Goodbye j4, you won't be missed :)
>
> musachy
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Nils-Helge Garli Hegvik
> <ni...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > I though this had been decided already, but +1 for dropping it in 2.1
> > and keeping it in 2.0.x.
> >
> > Nils-H
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net>
> > wrote:
> > > +1 for dropping in 2.1, along with keeping it in 2.0.X
> > >
> > > Rainer Hermanns schrieb:
> > >>
> > >> I'd vote with +1 for dropping j4-support in Struts 2.1.X
> > >> but with -1 for Struts 2.0.X because of known users using
> > >> previous 2.0.X backported releases and that are waiting for
> > >> another stable GA release for their production systems.
> > >>
> > >> just my 0.02€,
> > >> cheers,
> > >> Rainer
> > >>
> > >>> Yes, my thoughts were on that direction, drop out direct support and
> > >>> document what needs to be done, for those that still need it.
> > >>>
> > >>> musachy
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Dave Newton <newton.dave@yahoo.com
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Musachy Barroso wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I know someone already asked this but, shouldn't we drop
> > >>>>> the jdk4 support already?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> +1, but I'll add a wiki page giving a brief overview of the retro
> > >>>> process
> > >>>> ("Run this batch file, loser!")
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dave
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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> > >>>
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Re: Drop J4 support, was: Re: release process
Posted by Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com>.
jdk 4 jars generation was removed from the default build in the
release_process branch. Just doing 'mvn package -P j4' should be enough to
generate the jdk 4 jars.
//Goodbye j4, you won't be missed :)
musachy
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Nils-Helge Garli Hegvik
<ni...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I though this had been decided already, but +1 for dropping it in 2.1
> and keeping it in 2.0.x.
>
> Nils-H
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net>
> wrote:
> > +1 for dropping in 2.1, along with keeping it in 2.0.X
> >
> > Rainer Hermanns schrieb:
> >>
> >> I'd vote with +1 for dropping j4-support in Struts 2.1.X
> >> but with -1 for Struts 2.0.X because of known users using
> >> previous 2.0.X backported releases and that are waiting for
> >> another stable GA release for their production systems.
> >>
> >> just my 0.02€,
> >> cheers,
> >> Rainer
> >>
> >>> Yes, my thoughts were on that direction, drop out direct support and
> >>> document what needs to be done, for those that still need it.
> >>>
> >>> musachy
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Musachy Barroso wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I know someone already asked this but, shouldn't we drop
> >>>>> the jdk4 support already?
> >>>>
> >>>> +1, but I'll add a wiki page giving a brief overview of the retro
> >>>> process
> >>>> ("Run this batch file, loser!")
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
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Re: Drop J4 support, was: Re: release process
Posted by Nils-Helge Garli Hegvik <ni...@gmail.com>.
I though this had been decided already, but +1 for dropping it in 2.1
and keeping it in 2.0.x.
Nils-H
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> +1 for dropping in 2.1, along with keeping it in 2.0.X
>
> Rainer Hermanns schrieb:
>>
>> I'd vote with +1 for dropping j4-support in Struts 2.1.X
>> but with -1 for Struts 2.0.X because of known users using
>> previous 2.0.X backported releases and that are waiting for
>> another stable GA release for their production systems.
>>
>> just my 0.02€,
>> cheers,
>> Rainer
>>
>>> Yes, my thoughts were on that direction, drop out direct support and
>>> document what needs to be done, for those that still need it.
>>>
>>> musachy
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Musachy Barroso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I know someone already asked this but, shouldn't we drop
>>>>> the jdk4 support already?
>>>>
>>>> +1, but I'll add a wiki page giving a brief overview of the retro
>>>> process
>>>> ("Run this batch file, loser!")
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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Re: Drop J4 support, was: Re: release process
Posted by Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>.
Since Struts 2.1 does not have a GA release yet, I think it's
acceptable to drop J4 support too. However, make it as easy as
possible to build the J4 support libraries with documentation, and a
*supported* Maven profile.
Paul
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> +1 for dropping in 2.1, along with keeping it in 2.0.X
>
> Rainer Hermanns schrieb:
>>
>> I'd vote with +1 for dropping j4-support in Struts 2.1.X
>> but with -1 for Struts 2.0.X because of known users using
>> previous 2.0.X backported releases and that are waiting for
>> another stable GA release for their production systems.
>>
>> just my 0.02€,
>> cheers,
>> Rainer
>>
>>> Yes, my thoughts were on that direction, drop out direct support and
>>> document what needs to be done, for those that still need it.
>>>
>>> musachy
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Musachy Barroso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I know someone already asked this but, shouldn't we drop
>>>>> the jdk4 support already?
>>>>
>>>> +1, but I'll add a wiki page giving a brief overview of the retro
>>>> process
>>>> ("Run this batch file, loser!")
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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Re: Drop J4 support, was: Re: release process
Posted by Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net>.
+1 for dropping in 2.1, along with keeping it in 2.0.X
Rainer Hermanns schrieb:
> I'd vote with +1 for dropping j4-support in Struts 2.1.X
> but with -1 for Struts 2.0.X because of known users using
> previous 2.0.X backported releases and that are waiting for
> another stable GA release for their production systems.
>
> just my 0.02€,
> cheers,
> Rainer
>
>> Yes, my thoughts were on that direction, drop out direct support and
>> document what needs to be done, for those that still need it.
>>
>> musachy
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Musachy Barroso wrote:
>>>> I know someone already asked this but, shouldn't we drop
>>>> the jdk4 support already?
>>> +1, but I'll add a wiki page giving a brief overview of the retro
>>> process
>>> ("Run this batch file, loser!")
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
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Re: Drop J4 support, was: Re: release process
Posted by Rainer Hermanns <he...@aixcept.de>.
I'd vote with +1 for dropping j4-support in Struts 2.1.X
but with -1 for Struts 2.0.X because of known users using
previous 2.0.X backported releases and that are waiting for
another stable GA release for their production systems.
just my 0.02€,
cheers,
Rainer
> Yes, my thoughts were on that direction, drop out direct support and
> document what needs to be done, for those that still need it.
>
> musachy
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Musachy Barroso wrote:
>> > I know someone already asked this but, shouldn't we drop
>> > the jdk4 support already?
>>
>> +1, but I'll add a wiki page giving a brief overview of the retro
>> process
>> ("Run this batch file, loser!")
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
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Re: Drop J4 support, was: Re: release process
Posted by Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com>.
Yes, my thoughts were on that direction, drop out direct support and
document what needs to be done, for those that still need it.
musachy
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Musachy Barroso wrote:
> > I know someone already asked this but, shouldn't we drop
> > the jdk4 support already?
>
> +1, but I'll add a wiki page giving a brief overview of the retro process
> ("Run this batch file, loser!")
>
> Dave
>
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