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Posted to users@myfaces.apache.org by Guy Bashan <gu...@gmail.com> on 2008/06/02 19:04:34 UTC

[Faces][Core]

Hi,

 

Is it possible not to make any time zone shifting in <f:convertDateTime>.

For example:

<h:outputText
value="#{cmp_summary.cmpCampaign.cmpDeliveryLimits.startDate}">

            <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}"
type="both" />

</h:outputText>

 

I want to format the date according to the locale, but that no time shifting
will take place, since the exact value in db should be shown on screen.

 

Thanks,

Guy.


Re: [Faces][Core]

Posted by Volker Weber <v....@inexso.de>.
Hi Guy,

you can configure a bean with a getter which returns a appropriate
TimeZone.

<f:dateTimeConverter timeZone="#{bean.timeZone}" />

see this thread
http://www.mail-archive.com/users%40myfaces.apache.org/msg21412.html


Regards,
    Volker

2008/6/3 Guy Bashan <gu...@gmail.com>:
> Thanks for your answer,
> Actually I was trying using GMT (UTC), but it still does the time
> shifting...
>
> I think I will simply fall back to simple java to show this specific date.
>
> Thanks,
> Guy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Kienenberger [mailto:mkienenb@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:30 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Faces][Core]
>
> Some ideas:
>
> 1) Use GMT (or is it UTC?) and don't show the timezone in the output
> 2) subclass convertDateTime to have a null timezone
> 3) write your own converter
>
> I'd probably go with 1)
>
> On 6/2/08, Scott Belnap <sc...@byu.edu> wrote:
>> Guy,
>>
>>  If you want to just display what is in the database then don't use the
>>  convertDateTime tag.  The convertDateTime tag is used to convert the
>>  Date into a desired format or time zone.
>>
>>
>>  Scott
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 15:44 -0600, Guy Bashan wrote:
>>  > Thanks for your replay,
>>  > That is exactly my problem, I don't want to use timeZone, and I don't
> want
>>  > java to do any shifting on the time using a default timeZone.
>>  > For example, I have a date in db: 1/1/2008 00:00.
>>  > I want the date to be shown exactly like that, without any timeZone
>>  > shifting.
>>  > I do want that the date will be formatted according to the given
> locale.
>>  >
>>  > Something like this:
>>  > <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}" type="both"
>>  > timeZone="NONE" />
>>  >
>>  > Is it possible? Or will I have to use java code for that?
>>  >
>>  > Thanks,
>>  > Guy.
>>  >
>>  > -----Original Message-----
>>  > From: Christopher Cudennec [mailto:SmutjeJim@gmx.net]
>>  > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:05 AM
>>  > To: MyFaces Discussion
>>  > Subject: Re: [Faces][Core]
>>  >
>>  > Hi Guy,
>>  >
>>  > did you have look at Sun's documentation? You can pass a time zone to
>>  > the converter. See
>>  >
> http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/tlddocs/f/convertDate
>>  > Time.html
>>  > for more information.
>>  >
>>  > Cheers,
>>  >
>>  > Christopher
>>  >
>>  > Guy Bashan schrieb:
>>  > > Hi,
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > > Is it possible not to make any time zone shifting in
> <f:convertDateTime>.
>>  > >
>>  > > For example:
>>  > >
>>  > > <h:outputText
>>  > > value="#{cmp_summary.cmpCampaign.cmpDeliveryLimits.startDate}">
>>  > >
>>  > >             <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}"
>>  > > type="both" />
>>  > >
>>  > > </h:outputText>
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > > I want to format the date according to the locale, but that no time
>>  > shifting
>>  > > will take place, since the exact value in db should be shown on
> screen.
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > > Thanks,
>>  > >
>>  > > Guy.
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>>  > > Checked by AVG.
>>  > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1478 - Release Date:
>>  > 02.06.2008 07:12
>>  > >
>>  >
>>
>>
>
>



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RE: [Faces][Core]

Posted by Guy Bashan <gu...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for your answer,
Actually I was trying using GMT (UTC), but it still does the time
shifting...

I think I will simply fall back to simple java to show this specific date.

Thanks,
Guy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Kienenberger [mailto:mkienenb@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:30 AM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: [Faces][Core]

Some ideas:

1) Use GMT (or is it UTC?) and don't show the timezone in the output
2) subclass convertDateTime to have a null timezone
3) write your own converter

I'd probably go with 1)

On 6/2/08, Scott Belnap <sc...@byu.edu> wrote:
> Guy,
>
>  If you want to just display what is in the database then don't use the
>  convertDateTime tag.  The convertDateTime tag is used to convert the
>  Date into a desired format or time zone.
>
>
>  Scott
>
>
>  On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 15:44 -0600, Guy Bashan wrote:
>  > Thanks for your replay,
>  > That is exactly my problem, I don't want to use timeZone, and I don't
want
>  > java to do any shifting on the time using a default timeZone.
>  > For example, I have a date in db: 1/1/2008 00:00.
>  > I want the date to be shown exactly like that, without any timeZone
>  > shifting.
>  > I do want that the date will be formatted according to the given
locale.
>  >
>  > Something like this:
>  > <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}" type="both"
>  > timeZone="NONE" />
>  >
>  > Is it possible? Or will I have to use java code for that?
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > Guy.
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Christopher Cudennec [mailto:SmutjeJim@gmx.net]
>  > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:05 AM
>  > To: MyFaces Discussion
>  > Subject: Re: [Faces][Core]
>  >
>  > Hi Guy,
>  >
>  > did you have look at Sun's documentation? You can pass a time zone to
>  > the converter. See
>  >
http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/tlddocs/f/convertDate
>  > Time.html
>  > for more information.
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  >
>  > Christopher
>  >
>  > Guy Bashan schrieb:
>  > > Hi,
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Is it possible not to make any time zone shifting in
<f:convertDateTime>.
>  > >
>  > > For example:
>  > >
>  > > <h:outputText
>  > > value="#{cmp_summary.cmpCampaign.cmpDeliveryLimits.startDate}">
>  > >
>  > >             <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}"
>  > > type="both" />
>  > >
>  > > </h:outputText>
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > I want to format the date according to the locale, but that no time
>  > shifting
>  > > will take place, since the exact value in db should be shown on
screen.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Thanks,
>  > >
>  > > Guy.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>  > > Checked by AVG.
>  > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1478 - Release Date:
>  > 02.06.2008 07:12
>  > >
>  >
>
>


Re: [Faces][Core]

Posted by Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>.
Some ideas:

1) Use GMT (or is it UTC?) and don't show the timezone in the output
2) subclass convertDateTime to have a null timezone
3) write your own converter

I'd probably go with 1)

On 6/2/08, Scott Belnap <sc...@byu.edu> wrote:
> Guy,
>
>  If you want to just display what is in the database then don't use the
>  convertDateTime tag.  The convertDateTime tag is used to convert the
>  Date into a desired format or time zone.
>
>
>  Scott
>
>
>  On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 15:44 -0600, Guy Bashan wrote:
>  > Thanks for your replay,
>  > That is exactly my problem, I don't want to use timeZone, and I don't want
>  > java to do any shifting on the time using a default timeZone.
>  > For example, I have a date in db: 1/1/2008 00:00.
>  > I want the date to be shown exactly like that, without any timeZone
>  > shifting.
>  > I do want that the date will be formatted according to the given locale.
>  >
>  > Something like this:
>  > <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}" type="both"
>  > timeZone="NONE" />
>  >
>  > Is it possible? Or will I have to use java code for that?
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > Guy.
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Christopher Cudennec [mailto:SmutjeJim@gmx.net]
>  > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:05 AM
>  > To: MyFaces Discussion
>  > Subject: Re: [Faces][Core]
>  >
>  > Hi Guy,
>  >
>  > did you have look at Sun's documentation? You can pass a time zone to
>  > the converter. See
>  > http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/tlddocs/f/convertDate
>  > Time.html
>  > for more information.
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  >
>  > Christopher
>  >
>  > Guy Bashan schrieb:
>  > > Hi,
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Is it possible not to make any time zone shifting in <f:convertDateTime>.
>  > >
>  > > For example:
>  > >
>  > > <h:outputText
>  > > value="#{cmp_summary.cmpCampaign.cmpDeliveryLimits.startDate}">
>  > >
>  > >             <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}"
>  > > type="both" />
>  > >
>  > > </h:outputText>
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > I want to format the date according to the locale, but that no time
>  > shifting
>  > > will take place, since the exact value in db should be shown on screen.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Thanks,
>  > >
>  > > Guy.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>  > > Checked by AVG.
>  > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1478 - Release Date:
>  > 02.06.2008 07:12
>  > >
>  >
>
>

RE: [Faces][Core]

Posted by Scott Belnap <sc...@byu.edu>.
Guy,

If you want to just display what is in the database then don't use the
convertDateTime tag.  The convertDateTime tag is used to convert the
Date into a desired format or time zone.

Scott

On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 15:44 -0600, Guy Bashan wrote:
> Thanks for your replay,
> That is exactly my problem, I don't want to use timeZone, and I don't want
> java to do any shifting on the time using a default timeZone.
> For example, I have a date in db: 1/1/2008 00:00.
> I want the date to be shown exactly like that, without any timeZone
> shifting.
> I do want that the date will be formatted according to the given locale.
> 
> Something like this:
> <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}" type="both"
> timeZone="NONE" />
> 
> Is it possible? Or will I have to use java code for that?
> 
> Thanks,
> Guy.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Cudennec [mailto:SmutjeJim@gmx.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:05 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Faces][Core]
> 
> Hi Guy,
> 
> did you have look at Sun's documentation? You can pass a time zone to
> the converter. See
> http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/tlddocs/f/convertDate
> Time.html
> for more information.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Christopher
> 
> Guy Bashan schrieb:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > Is it possible not to make any time zone shifting in <f:convertDateTime>.
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > <h:outputText
> > value="#{cmp_summary.cmpCampaign.cmpDeliveryLimits.startDate}">
> >
> >             <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}"
> > type="both" />
> >
> > </h:outputText>
> >
> >
> >
> > I want to format the date according to the locale, but that no time
> shifting
> > will take place, since the exact value in db should be shown on screen.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Guy.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG.
> > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1478 - Release Date:
> 02.06.2008 07:12
> >
> 


RE: [Faces][Core]

Posted by Guy Bashan <gu...@gmail.com>.
Just tried the: <s:convertDateTime>
Working great. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: simon.kitching@chello.at [mailto:simon.kitching@chello.at] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:18 AM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: [Faces][Core]

The JSF specification requires that f:convertDateTime:
 * interpret the input Date object as being in UTC (this is part of the
spec for java.util.Date)
 *  map the timezone of the input Date object using the specified
timeZone (or UTC if none specified)

I suspect the problem with your program is in fact that when you load
dates from the database they are being treated as belonging to some
specific timezone, and are being adjusted to UTC (which would be
correct, as java.util.Date should hold a UTC value). Then the
f:convertDateTime has no timezone set, so is writing them out *without*
adjusting them in any way.

The myfaces sandbox project provides an "s:convertDateTime" that always
assumes that timeZone is the localhost timezone rather than UTC. That's
not really very nice, as it only works when a server is limited to users
from one timezone. But if that is your scenario then it might save a
little bit of typing. A very little bit.

Regards,
Simon

Guy Bashan schrieb:
> Thanks for your replay,
> That is exactly my problem, I don't want to use timeZone, and I don't want
> java to do any shifting on the time using a default timeZone.
> For example, I have a date in db: 1/1/2008 00:00.
> I want the date to be shown exactly like that, without any timeZone
> shifting.
> I do want that the date will be formatted according to the given locale.
>
> Something like this:
> <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}" type="both"
> timeZone="NONE" />
>
> Is it possible? Or will I have to use java code for that?
>
> Thanks,
> Guy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Cudennec [mailto:SmutjeJim@gmx.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:05 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Faces][Core]
>
> Hi Guy,
>
> did you have look at Sun's documentation? You can pass a time zone to 
> the converter. See 
>
http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/tlddocs/f/convertDate
> Time.html 
> for more information.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christopher
>
> Guy Bashan schrieb:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Is it possible not to make any time zone shifting in <f:convertDateTime>.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> <h:outputText
>> value="#{cmp_summary.cmpCampaign.cmpDeliveryLimits.startDate}">
>>
>>             <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}"
>> type="both" />
>>
>> </h:outputText>
>>
>>  
>>
>> I want to format the date according to the locale, but that no time
>>     
> shifting
>   
>> will take place, since the exact value in db should be shown on screen.
>>
>>     
>


RE: [Faces][Core]

Posted by Guy Bashan <gu...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for your answer Simon,
I will check this s:convertDateTime to see if it might be useful. If not I
will simply use java formatting for that.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: simon.kitching@chello.at [mailto:simon.kitching@chello.at] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:18 AM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: [Faces][Core]

The JSF specification requires that f:convertDateTime:
 * interpret the input Date object as being in UTC (this is part of the
spec for java.util.Date)
 *  map the timezone of the input Date object using the specified
timeZone (or UTC if none specified)

I suspect the problem with your program is in fact that when you load
dates from the database they are being treated as belonging to some
specific timezone, and are being adjusted to UTC (which would be
correct, as java.util.Date should hold a UTC value). Then the
f:convertDateTime has no timezone set, so is writing them out *without*
adjusting them in any way.

The myfaces sandbox project provides an "s:convertDateTime" that always
assumes that timeZone is the localhost timezone rather than UTC. That's
not really very nice, as it only works when a server is limited to users
from one timezone. But if that is your scenario then it might save a
little bit of typing. A very little bit.

Regards,
Simon

Guy Bashan schrieb:
> Thanks for your replay,
> That is exactly my problem, I don't want to use timeZone, and I don't want
> java to do any shifting on the time using a default timeZone.
> For example, I have a date in db: 1/1/2008 00:00.
> I want the date to be shown exactly like that, without any timeZone
> shifting.
> I do want that the date will be formatted according to the given locale.
>
> Something like this:
> <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}" type="both"
> timeZone="NONE" />
>
> Is it possible? Or will I have to use java code for that?
>
> Thanks,
> Guy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Cudennec [mailto:SmutjeJim@gmx.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:05 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Faces][Core]
>
> Hi Guy,
>
> did you have look at Sun's documentation? You can pass a time zone to 
> the converter. See 
>
http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/tlddocs/f/convertDate
> Time.html 
> for more information.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christopher
>
> Guy Bashan schrieb:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Is it possible not to make any time zone shifting in <f:convertDateTime>.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> <h:outputText
>> value="#{cmp_summary.cmpCampaign.cmpDeliveryLimits.startDate}">
>>
>>             <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}"
>> type="both" />
>>
>> </h:outputText>
>>
>>  
>>
>> I want to format the date according to the locale, but that no time
>>     
> shifting
>   
>> will take place, since the exact value in db should be shown on screen.
>>
>>     
>


Re: [Faces][Core]

Posted by "simon.kitching@chello.at" <si...@chello.at>.
The JSF specification requires that f:convertDateTime:
 * interpret the input Date object as being in UTC (this is part of the
spec for java.util.Date)
 *  map the timezone of the input Date object using the specified
timeZone (or UTC if none specified)

I suspect the problem with your program is in fact that when you load
dates from the database they are being treated as belonging to some
specific timezone, and are being adjusted to UTC (which would be
correct, as java.util.Date should hold a UTC value). Then the
f:convertDateTime has no timezone set, so is writing them out *without*
adjusting them in any way.

The myfaces sandbox project provides an "s:convertDateTime" that always
assumes that timeZone is the localhost timezone rather than UTC. That's
not really very nice, as it only works when a server is limited to users
from one timezone. But if that is your scenario then it might save a
little bit of typing. A very little bit.

Regards,
Simon

Guy Bashan schrieb:
> Thanks for your replay,
> That is exactly my problem, I don't want to use timeZone, and I don't want
> java to do any shifting on the time using a default timeZone.
> For example, I have a date in db: 1/1/2008 00:00.
> I want the date to be shown exactly like that, without any timeZone
> shifting.
> I do want that the date will be formatted according to the given locale.
>
> Something like this:
> <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}" type="both"
> timeZone="NONE" />
>
> Is it possible? Or will I have to use java code for that?
>
> Thanks,
> Guy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Cudennec [mailto:SmutjeJim@gmx.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:05 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Faces][Core]
>
> Hi Guy,
>
> did you have look at Sun's documentation? You can pass a time zone to 
> the converter. See 
> http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/tlddocs/f/convertDate
> Time.html 
> for more information.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christopher
>
> Guy Bashan schrieb:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Is it possible not to make any time zone shifting in <f:convertDateTime>.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> <h:outputText
>> value="#{cmp_summary.cmpCampaign.cmpDeliveryLimits.startDate}">
>>
>>             <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}"
>> type="both" />
>>
>> </h:outputText>
>>
>>  
>>
>> I want to format the date according to the locale, but that no time
>>     
> shifting
>   
>> will take place, since the exact value in db should be shown on screen.
>>
>>     
>


RE: [Faces][Core]

Posted by Guy Bashan <gu...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for your replay,
That is exactly my problem, I don't want to use timeZone, and I don't want
java to do any shifting on the time using a default timeZone.
For example, I have a date in db: 1/1/2008 00:00.
I want the date to be shown exactly like that, without any timeZone
shifting.
I do want that the date will be formatted according to the given locale.

Something like this:
<f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}" type="both"
timeZone="NONE" />

Is it possible? Or will I have to use java code for that?

Thanks,
Guy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Cudennec [mailto:SmutjeJim@gmx.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:05 AM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: [Faces][Core]

Hi Guy,

did you have look at Sun's documentation? You can pass a time zone to 
the converter. See 
http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/tlddocs/f/convertDate
Time.html 
for more information.

Cheers,

Christopher

Guy Bashan schrieb:
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> Is it possible not to make any time zone shifting in <f:convertDateTime>.
>
> For example:
>
> <h:outputText
> value="#{cmp_summary.cmpCampaign.cmpDeliveryLimits.startDate}">
>
>             <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}"
> type="both" />
>
> </h:outputText>
>
>  
>
> I want to format the date according to the locale, but that no time
shifting
> will take place, since the exact value in db should be shown on screen.
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Guy.
>
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG. 
> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1478 - Release Date:
02.06.2008 07:12
>   


Re: [Faces][Core]

Posted by Christopher Cudennec <Sm...@gmx.net>.
Hi Guy,

did you have look at Sun's documentation? You can pass a time zone to 
the converter. See 
http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/tlddocs/f/convertDateTime.html 
for more information.

Cheers,

Christopher

Guy Bashan schrieb:
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> Is it possible not to make any time zone shifting in <f:convertDateTime>.
>
> For example:
>
> <h:outputText
> value="#{cmp_summary.cmpCampaign.cmpDeliveryLimits.startDate}">
>
>             <f:convertDateTime locale="#{appBean.userLanguageLocale}"
> type="both" />
>
> </h:outputText>
>
>  
>
> I want to format the date according to the locale, but that no time shifting
> will take place, since the exact value in db should be shown on screen.
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Guy.
>
>
>   
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