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Posted to dev@streampipes.apache.org by Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com> on 2022/12/01 15:02:03 UTC
Re: [DISCUSS] Plan to release StreamPipes 1.0
Hi,
Agree with you. I think we should focus on usability improvements and
mature APIs for the 1.0 release. It is more important for users.
Other non-critical features can be released in a later version.
Florian Micklich <mi...@apache.org> 于2022年11月27日周日 03:01写道：
> Hi,
>
> I think it really depends on the timing of when 1.0 is released.
>
> In my point if view, the geo operators should be part of the 1.0 release
> as "new features".
> And also focus on the documentation and story line using them O:-)
>
> Florian
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am Freitag, dem 25.11.2022 um 09:27 +0000 schrieb Philipp Zehnder:
> > Hi,<br>
> >
> > I am also in favor of releasing a 1.0 version soon after the 0.90.0
> version.<br>
> >
> > I think we do not need any new features for the 1.0 release.<br>
> > My suggestion would be to focus on usability improvements and bug fixes
> for the 1.0 release.<br>
> > Especially that we have a backward compatible system and users can
> easily update to newer versions.<br>
> > Do you have any ideas how we can ensure this? We need a way to test that
> updates work as expected and do not break anything.<br>
> > It would be cool to have an automated approach to validate this for each
> release.<br>
> >
> > Cheers,<br>
> > Philipp<br>
> >
> >
> > Von: Dominik Riemer <[riemer@apache.org](mailto:riemer@apache.org)><br>
> > Datum: Freitag, 25. November 2022 um 07:08<br>
> > An: [dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org) <[
> dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org)><br>
> > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Plan to release StreamPipes 1.0<br>
> > Hi Xin,<br>
> >
> > thanks for bringing up this important question!<br>
> > The current plan is to release a new version soon together with the TLP
> announcement, which is currently named "0.90.0".<br>
> >
> > I totally agree that a 1.0 version gives more trust to users. So let's
> say we would go for a 1.0 release after 0.90.0, what do you all think
> should be part of this release and what improvements should be done? Are
> any mission-critical features missing?<br>
> >
> > E.g., an important item on my list for the 1.0 release is increased test
> coverage.<br>
> >
> > Cheers<br>
> > Dominik<br>
> >
> >
> > On 2022/11/25 05:07:54 Xin Wang wrote:<br>
> > > The current StreamPipes version is 0.70. Do we have a plan to release
> 1.0?<br>
> > > Because 1.x version may make users feel more mature and stable, what
> do you<br>
> > > think?<br>
> > >
> > >
> > > --<br>
> > > Thanks,<br>
> > > Xin<br>
> > >
>
--
Thanks,
Xin
Re: [DISCUSS] Plan to release StreamPipes 1.0
Posted by Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dominik,
For usability / ease of use improvement, for example, we can add some
adapters that can mock data, or add some built-in runnable pipeline
examples.
This allows users to quickly verify functions of the product.
Florian Micklich <mi...@apache.org> 于2022年12月5日周一 02:34写道：
> I added two points for usability in the discussion.
>
> A friend of mine works as a UX designer. I can ask him to take a look and
> give us some tips.
> If he does, we can discuss this in a community session maybe.
>
> Florian
>
>
>
> Am Freitag, dem 02.12.2022 um 14:30 +0000 schrieb Dominik Riemer:
> > Thanks for your feedback!<br>
> >
> > I am especially interested in the opinion from those of you haven't
> followed the project for years, as you have a "fresh" view on the
> system:<br>
> > What do you think are the biggest pain points regarding usability or
> where do you see improvement potential?<br>
> >
> > I'll start a discussion on Github and we can collect any ideas there.<br>
> >
> > Cheers<br>
> > DOminik<br>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: Xin Wang <[data.xinwang@gmail.com](mailto:data.xinwang@gmail.com)>
> <br>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 4:02 PM<br>
> > To: [dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org)<br>
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Plan to release StreamPipes 1.0<br>
> >
> > Hi,<br>
> >
> > Agree with you. I think we should focus on usability improvements and
> mature APIs for the 1.0 release. It is more important for users.<br>
> > Other non-critical features can be released in a later version.<br>
> >
> > Florian Micklich <[micklich@apache.org](mailto:micklich@apache.org)>
> 于2022年11月27日周日 03:01写道：<br>
> >
> > > Hi,<br>
> > >
> > > I think it really depends on the timing of when 1.0 is released.<br>
> > >
> > > In my point if view, the geo operators should be part of the 1.0 <br>
> > > release as "new features".<br>
> > > And also focus on the documentation and story line using them O:-)<br>
> > >
> > > Florian<br>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am Freitag, dem 25.11.2022 um 09:27 +0000 schrieb Philipp
> Zehnder:<br>>
> > > > Hi,<br><br>
> > > >
> > > > I am also in favor of releasing a 1.0 version soon after the
> 0.90.0<br>
> > > version.<br><br>>
> > > >
> > > > I think we do not need any new features for the 1.0 release.<br> My
> <br>
> > > > suggestion would be to focus on usability improvements and bug
> fixes<br>
> > > for the 1.0 release.<br><br>>
> > > > Especially that we have a backward compatible system and users
> can<br>
> > > easily update to newer versions.<br><br>>
> > > > Do you have any ideas how we can ensure this? We need a way to test
> <br>
> > > > that<br>
> > > updates work as expected and do not break anything.<br><br>>
> > > > It would be cool to have an automated approach to validate this for
> <br>
> > > > each<br>
> > > release.<br><br>>
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,<br><br>
> > > > Philipp<br><br>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Von: Dominik Riemer <br>
> > > > <[[riemer@apache.org](mailto:riemer@apache.org)](mailto:[
> riemer@apache.org](mailto:riemer@apache.org))><br><br>
> > > > Datum: Freitag, 25. November 2022 um 07:08<br><br>
> > > > An: [[dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org
> )](mailto:[dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org))
> <br>
> > > > <[<br>
> > > [dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org
> )](mailto:[dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org))><br><br>>
>
> > > > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Plan to release StreamPipes 1.0<br> Hi <br>
> > > > Xin,<br><br>
> > > >
> > > > thanks for bringing up this important question!<br> The current plan
> <br>
> > > > is to release a new version soon together with the TLP<br>
> > > announcement, which is currently named "0.90.0".<br><br>>
> > > >
> > > > I totally agree that a 1.0 version gives more trust to users. So <br>
> > > > let's<br>
> > > say we would go for a 1.0 release after 0.90.0, what do you all think
> <br>
> > > should be part of this release and what improvements should be done?
> <br>
> > > Are any mission-critical features missing?<br><br>>
> > > >
> > > > E.g., an important item on my list for the 1.0 release is increased
> <br>
> > > > test<br>
> > > coverage.<br><br>>
> > > >
> > > > Cheers<br><br>
> > > > Dominik<br><br>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2022/11/25 05:07:54 Xin Wang wrote:<br><br>> >
> > > > > The current StreamPipes version is 0.70. Do we have a plan to <br>
> > > > > release<br>
> > > 1.0?<br><br>>
> > > > > Because 1.x version may make users feel more mature and stable,
> <br>
> > > > > what<br>
> > > do you<br><br>>
> > > > > think?<br><br>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --<br><br>
> > > > > Thanks,<br><br>
> > > > > Xin<br><br>
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --<br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> > Xin<br>
>
--
Thanks,
Xin
Re: [DISCUSS] Plan to release StreamPipes 1.0
Posted by Florian Micklich <mi...@apache.org>.
I added two points for usability in the discussion.
A friend of mine works as a UX designer. I can ask him to take a look and give us some tips.
If he does, we can discuss this in a community session maybe.
Florian
Am Freitag, dem 02.12.2022 um 14:30 +0000 schrieb Dominik Riemer:
> Thanks for your feedback!<br>
>
> I am especially interested in the opinion from those of you haven't followed the project for years, as you have a "fresh" view on the system:<br>
> What do you think are the biggest pain points regarding usability or where do you see improvement potential?<br>
>
> I'll start a discussion on Github and we can collect any ideas there.<br>
>
> Cheers<br>
> DOminik<br>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Xin Wang <[data.xinwang@gmail.com](mailto:data.xinwang@gmail.com)> <br>
> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 4:02 PM<br>
> To: [dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org)<br>
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Plan to release StreamPipes 1.0<br>
>
> Hi,<br>
>
> Agree with you. I think we should focus on usability improvements and mature APIs for the 1.0 release. It is more important for users.<br>
> Other non-critical features can be released in a later version.<br>
>
> Florian Micklich <[micklich@apache.org](mailto:micklich@apache.org)> 于2022年11月27日周日 03:01写道：<br>
>
> > Hi,<br>
> >
> > I think it really depends on the timing of when 1.0 is released.<br>
> >
> > In my point if view, the geo operators should be part of the 1.0 <br>
> > release as "new features".<br>
> > And also focus on the documentation and story line using them O:-)<br>
> >
> > Florian<br>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am Freitag, dem 25.11.2022 um 09:27 +0000 schrieb Philipp Zehnder:<br>>
> > > Hi,<br><br>
> > >
> > > I am also in favor of releasing a 1.0 version soon after the 0.90.0<br>
> > version.<br><br>>
> > >
> > > I think we do not need any new features for the 1.0 release.<br> My <br>
> > > suggestion would be to focus on usability improvements and bug fixes<br>
> > for the 1.0 release.<br><br>>
> > > Especially that we have a backward compatible system and users can<br>
> > easily update to newer versions.<br><br>>
> > > Do you have any ideas how we can ensure this? We need a way to test <br>
> > > that<br>
> > updates work as expected and do not break anything.<br><br>>
> > > It would be cool to have an automated approach to validate this for <br>
> > > each<br>
> > release.<br><br>>
> > >
> > > Cheers,<br><br>
> > > Philipp<br><br>
> > >
> > >
> > > Von: Dominik Riemer <br>
> > > <[[riemer@apache.org](mailto:riemer@apache.org)](mailto:[riemer@apache.org](mailto:riemer@apache.org))><br><br>
> > > Datum: Freitag, 25. November 2022 um 07:08<br><br>
> > > An: [[dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org)](mailto:[dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org)) <br>
> > > <[<br>
> > [dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org)](mailto:[dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org))><br><br>>
> > > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Plan to release StreamPipes 1.0<br> Hi <br>
> > > Xin,<br><br>
> > >
> > > thanks for bringing up this important question!<br> The current plan <br>
> > > is to release a new version soon together with the TLP<br>
> > announcement, which is currently named "0.90.0".<br><br>>
> > >
> > > I totally agree that a 1.0 version gives more trust to users. So <br>
> > > let's<br>
> > say we would go for a 1.0 release after 0.90.0, what do you all think <br>
> > should be part of this release and what improvements should be done? <br>
> > Are any mission-critical features missing?<br><br>>
> > >
> > > E.g., an important item on my list for the 1.0 release is increased <br>
> > > test<br>
> > coverage.<br><br>>
> > >
> > > Cheers<br><br>
> > > Dominik<br><br>
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2022/11/25 05:07:54 Xin Wang wrote:<br><br>> >
> > > > The current StreamPipes version is 0.70. Do we have a plan to <br>
> > > > release<br>
> > 1.0?<br><br>>
> > > > Because 1.x version may make users feel more mature and stable, <br>
> > > > what<br>
> > do you<br><br>>
> > > > think?<br><br>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --<br><br>
> > > > Thanks,<br><br>
> > > > Xin<br><br>
> > > >
> >
>
>
> --<br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Xin<br>
RE: [DISCUSS] Plan to release StreamPipes 1.0
Posted by Dominik Riemer <do...@bytefabrik.ai>.
Thanks for your feedback!
I am especially interested in the opinion from those of you haven't followed the project for years, as you have a "fresh" view on the system:
What do you think are the biggest pain points regarding usability or where do you see improvement potential?
I'll start a discussion on Github and we can collect any ideas there.
Cheers
DOminik
-----Original Message-----
From: Xin Wang <da...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 4:02 PM
To: dev@streampipes.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Plan to release StreamPipes 1.0
Hi,
Agree with you. I think we should focus on usability improvements and mature APIs for the 1.0 release. It is more important for users.
Other non-critical features can be released in a later version.
Florian Micklich <mi...@apache.org> 于2022年11月27日周日 03:01写道：
> Hi,
>
> I think it really depends on the timing of when 1.0 is released.
>
> In my point if view, the geo operators should be part of the 1.0
> release as "new features".
> And also focus on the documentation and story line using them O:-)
>
> Florian
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am Freitag, dem 25.11.2022 um 09:27 +0000 schrieb Philipp Zehnder:
> > Hi,<br>
> >
> > I am also in favor of releasing a 1.0 version soon after the 0.90.0
> version.<br>
> >
> > I think we do not need any new features for the 1.0 release.<br> My
> > suggestion would be to focus on usability improvements and bug fixes
> for the 1.0 release.<br>
> > Especially that we have a backward compatible system and users can
> easily update to newer versions.<br>
> > Do you have any ideas how we can ensure this? We need a way to test
> > that
> updates work as expected and do not break anything.<br>
> > It would be cool to have an automated approach to validate this for
> > each
> release.<br>
> >
> > Cheers,<br>
> > Philipp<br>
> >
> >
> > Von: Dominik Riemer
> > <[riemer@apache.org](mailto:riemer@apache.org)><br>
> > Datum: Freitag, 25. November 2022 um 07:08<br>
> > An: [dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org)
> > <[
> dev@streampipes.apache.org](mailto:dev@streampipes.apache.org)><br>
> > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Plan to release StreamPipes 1.0<br> Hi
> > Xin,<br>
> >
> > thanks for bringing up this important question!<br> The current plan
> > is to release a new version soon together with the TLP
> announcement, which is currently named "0.90.0".<br>
> >
> > I totally agree that a 1.0 version gives more trust to users. So
> > let's
> say we would go for a 1.0 release after 0.90.0, what do you all think
> should be part of this release and what improvements should be done?
> Are any mission-critical features missing?<br>
> >
> > E.g., an important item on my list for the 1.0 release is increased
> > test
> coverage.<br>
> >
> > Cheers<br>
> > Dominik<br>
> >
> >
> > On 2022/11/25 05:07:54 Xin Wang wrote:<br>
> > > The current StreamPipes version is 0.70. Do we have a plan to
> > > release
> 1.0?<br>
> > > Because 1.x version may make users feel more mature and stable,
> > > what
> do you<br>
> > > think?<br>
> > >
> > >
> > > --<br>
> > > Thanks,<br>
> > > Xin<br>
> > >
>
--
Thanks,
Xin