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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Hans Bakker <ma...@antwebsystems.com> on 2009/04/12 04:43:53 UTC

Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Hi David,

from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in
this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic.

after 5 minutes of testing:
1. search results in party: partyId not clickable
(error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function)
2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't
there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other
areas as svn log and ?
3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of
spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : 
https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet

Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next
level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you!

Regards,
Hans

On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we  
> shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The  
> old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme  
> component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps  
> doesn't give the best first impression.
> 
> Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the bluelight  
> theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the new  
> web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex theme).
> 
> One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as thoroughly  
> as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because there are  
> issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we  
> should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing both  
> of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the  
> ecommerce one yet).
> 
> Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered  
> opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first (and  
> a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes).
> 
> BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before the  
> release branch next Tuesday.
> 
> -David
> 
-- 
Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates


Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@hlmksw.com>.
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> So we need to extract the std theme and to make it a theme 
> like the others, and the default OOTB (so far). I don't give all details 
> but this means to have a new "std layout" theme under the /themes directory

I was thinking about that the other day. I'd like to see the current 
default theme moved to the themes folder.

-Adrian

Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi Tim,

I fixed this at r765721 but for FF3. Please see my comment in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2303

About smoothfeather as the default theme : if we want to do that correctly we need to treat each theme equally. For the moment the 
std theme is considered as "superior" to the other themes. It's not exactly what it should be : a default changeable easily from 
scratch by a parameter. So we need to extract the std theme and to make it a theme like the others, and the default OOTB (so far). I 
don't give all details but this means to have a new "std layout" theme under the /themes directory

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
> From: "Tim Ruppert" <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>> The .ico is up there on ofbiz.apache.org - so Jacques, please feel free to just fix that one straight away.
>
> I will see that when I wil get a chance
>
> Jacques
> 



Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Forgot to say : done at r765726

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
> From: "Tim Ruppert" <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>> The .ico is up there on ofbiz.apache.org - so Jacques, please feel free to just fix that one straight away.
> 
> I will see that when I wil get a chance
> 
> Jacques
>


Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
From: "Tim Ruppert" <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> The .ico is up there on ofbiz.apache.org - so Jacques, please feel free to just fix that one straight away.

I will see that when I wil get a chance

Jacques


Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
From: Ryan Foster

No, I don't hate footers ;).

The originally thinking was to give the backend look and feel a more "desktop" like feeling, where most of the information and
navigation is located in sidebars, file menus, tabs, etc.  Following that line of thinking, maybe we put a "help" link in the header
right next to preferences that drops down in a similar fashion to show copyright, link to apache, etc.  This would function exactly
the same way that the help link functions in apps like Firefox, Mac Mail, Outlook, Word, etc.  We could even put a simple keyword
search field in this section that searches docs.ofbiz.org.  See the screenshot below for an example:

Ryan Foster

___________________________________
Hi Ryan,

Yes great idea, I like it :o)

There are still issues related to font sizes, but clearly people not involved in previous UI developments (who have an exernal look)
prefer far more the new one (more easy to read they say). Even in the order view case which was a problem for me (is still but I
have to get used to I guess ;o).

BTW, I opened a Jira issue for the small issues I found in Confluence so far
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2298

Thanks

Jacques



Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Ryan Foster <ry...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
No, I don't hate footers ;).

The originally thinking was to give the backend look and feel a more  
"desktop" like feeling, where most of the information and navigation  
is located in sidebars, file menus, tabs, etc.  Following that line of  
thinking, maybe we put a "help" link in the header right next to  
preferences that drops down in a similar fashion to show copyright,  
link to apache, etc.  This would function exactly the same way that  
the help link functions in apps like Firefox, Mac Mail, Outlook, Word,  
etc.  We could even put a simple keyword search field in this section  
that searches docs.ofbiz.org.  See the screenshot below for an example:



Ryan Foster
HotWax Media
801.671.0769
ryan.foster@hotwaxmedia.com




On Apr 15, 2009, at 1:19 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote:

> Inline
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> ----- "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually the things that IMO are missing are
>> * The ASF copyright and link to a apache.org site
>> * Powered by OFBiz and link to ofbiz.apache.org
>> *  Release.revision informations
>>
>> Only the last is mandatory IMO, but I'm not sure about ASF copyright
>> and a link to OFBiz site would be cool
>>
>> But maybe they are somewhere and I did not find them (do you hate
>> footers ? ;o) ?
>
> My personal vote is to get a footer that has at least the bottom one  
> because it's super important information and that's where people  
> have become accustomed to looking for it.  As for the ASF copyright  
> and the OFBiz logo - those need to be there, but I'm not sure the  
> footer is ever the best place for that.
>
> Designers, what do you think on the placement now that you know that  
> people would like to see it back?
>
>> With the update today all issues below are still there
>> For favicon.png I think it should be favicon.ico by the way (did not
>> look into detail but that how it works normally, this was
>> introduced by M$ if I recall well, hence the .ico)
>
> The .ico is up there on ofbiz.apache.org - so Jacques, please feel  
> free to just fix that one straight away.
>
>> Also sometimes on XP using FF3 (a pretty classic set I'd say) I get
>> myself stuck, the UI is not responding anymore. I got this issue
>> at least after trying to change themes.
>
> Hmm - try loading it up locally with this as the default theme and  
> see if it's the theme itself or just the JS and CSS getting confused  
> when it switches.
>
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Ryan Foster" <ry...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>> I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue.
>>> Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more
>>> logically in the header.  For instance, the secondary apps have
>> been
>>> grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been
>>> grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and
>>> language.  The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you
>>> clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate,
>>> having several errors.
>>>
>>> Ryan Foster
>>> HotWax Media
>>> 801.671.0769
>>> ryan.foster@hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>> So far, I found also that :
>>>> * there is no footer anymore
>>>> * an issue with favicon.png.
>>>> * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply
>> it.
>>>> It's like if the last view feature was not working.
>>>> * the log in webtools is no longer colored
>>>> * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order
>> view
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>>>> I agree with Hans,
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Hans Bakker" <ma...@antwebsystems.com>
>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of
>>>>>> errors in
>>>>>> this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very
>> realistic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> after 5 minutes of testing:
>>>>>> 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable
>>>>>> (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function)
>>>>>> 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated,
>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>> there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in
>> other
>>>>>> areas as svn log and ?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of
>> hotwax...
>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because
>> of
>>>>>> spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at :
>>>>>> https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide
>> screen
>>>>> to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current
>> size
>>>>> screen used in the world (1024*768).
>>>>> And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen
>>>>> (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the
>>>>> Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about
>> having
>>>>> a panel open at left, etc.
>>>>> Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area
>>>>> (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others
>>>>> also...). Something like "Main applications" "Secondary
>>>>> applications", maybe 2 colors also ?
>>>>>
>>>>> This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is
>> not
>>>>> much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes thank you for that !
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the
>> next
>>>>>> level especially in the framework and graphical design areas.
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Hans
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>> Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we
>>>>>>> shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the
>> back-end.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a
>> theme
>>>>>>> component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but
>> perhaps
>>>>>>> doesn't give the best first impression.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the
>>>>>>> bluelight
>>>>>>> theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like
>> the
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex
>>>>>>> theme).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as
>>>>>>> thoroughly
>>>>>>> as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because
>>>>>>> there are
>>>>>>> issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and
>> we
>>>>>>> should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own
>> testing
>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>> of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with
>> the
>>>>>>> ecommerce one yet).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered
>>>>>>> opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better
>> first
>>>>>>> (and
>>>>>>> a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion
>> goes).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen
>> before
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> release branch next Tuesday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>


Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Inline

Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

----- "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com> wrote:

> Actually the things that IMO are missing are
> * The ASF copyright and link to a apache.org site
> * Powered by OFBiz and link to ofbiz.apache.org
> *  Release.revision informations
> 
> Only the last is mandatory IMO, but I'm not sure about ASF copyright
> and a link to OFBiz site would be cool
> 
> But maybe they are somewhere and I did not find them (do you hate
> footers ? ;o) ?

My personal vote is to get a footer that has at least the bottom one because it's super important information and that's where people have become accustomed to looking for it.  As for the ASF copyright and the OFBiz logo - those need to be there, but I'm not sure the footer is ever the best place for that.  

Designers, what do you think on the placement now that you know that people would like to see it back?

> With the update today all issues below are still there
> For favicon.png I think it should be favicon.ico by the way (did not
> look into detail but that how it works normally, this was 
> introduced by M$ if I recall well, hence the .ico)

The .ico is up there on ofbiz.apache.org - so Jacques, please feel free to just fix that one straight away.

> Also sometimes on XP using FF3 (a pretty classic set I'd say) I get
> myself stuck, the UI is not responding anymore. I got this issue 
> at least after trying to change themes.

Hmm - try loading it up locally with this as the default theme and see if it's the theme itself or just the JS and CSS getting confused when it switches.

> 
> Jacques
> 
> From: "Ryan Foster" <ry...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> > I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue.
> > Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more
> > logically in the header.  For instance, the secondary apps have
> been
> > grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been
> > grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and
> > language.  The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you
> > clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate,
> > having several errors.
> >
> > Ryan Foster
> > HotWax Media
> > 801.671.0769
> > ryan.foster@hotwaxmedia.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >
> >> So far, I found also that :
> >> * there is no footer anymore
> >> * an issue with favicon.png.
> >> * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply
> it.
> >> It's like if the last view feature was not working.
> >> * the log in webtools is no longer colored
> >> * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order
> view
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >> Jacques
> >>
> >> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
> >>> I agree with Hans,
> >>>
> >>> From: "Hans Bakker" <ma...@antwebsystems.com>
> >>>> Hi David,
> >>>>
> >>>> from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of
> >>>> errors in
> >>>> this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very
> realistic.
> >>>>
> >>>> after 5 minutes of testing:
> >>>> 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable
> >>>> (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function)
> >>>> 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated,
> >>>> wasn't
> >>>> there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in
> other
> >>>> areas as svn log and ?
> >>>
> >>> If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of
> hotwax...
> >>>
> >>>> 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because
> of
> >>>> spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at :
> >>>> https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet
> >>>
> >>> Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide
> screen
> >>> to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current
> size
> >>> screen used in the world (1024*768).
> >>> And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen
> >>> (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the
> >>> Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about
> having
> >>> a panel open at left, etc.
> >>> Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read.
> >>>
> >>> Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area
> >>> (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others
> >>> also...). Something like "Main applications" "Secondary
> >>> applications", maybe 2 colors also ?
> >>>
> >>> This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is
> not
> >>> much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o)
> >>>
> >>> Yes thank you for that !
> >>>
> >>> Jacques
> >>>
> >>>> Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the
> next
> >>>> level especially in the framework and graphical design areas.
> >>>> Thank you!
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Hans
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> >>>>> Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we
> >>>>> shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the
> back-end.
> >>>>> The
> >>>>> old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a
> theme
> >>>>> component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but
> perhaps
> >>>>> doesn't give the best first impression.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the
> >>>>> bluelight
> >>>>> theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like
> the
> >>>>> new
> >>>>> web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex
> >>>>> theme).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as
> >>>>> thoroughly
> >>>>> as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because
> >>>>> there are
> >>>>> issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and
> we
> >>>>> should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own
> testing
> >>>>> both
> >>>>> of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with
> the
> >>>>> ecommerce one yet).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered
> >>>>> opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better
> first
> >>>>> (and
> >>>>> a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion
> goes).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen
> before
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> release branch next Tuesday.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -David
> >>>>>
> >>>> -- 
> >>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Actually the things that IMO are missing are
* The ASF copyright and link to a apache.org site
* Powered by OFBiz and link to ofbiz.apache.org
*  Release.revision informations

Only the last is mandatory IMO, but I'm not sure about ASF copyright and a link to OFBiz site would be cool

But maybe they are somewhere and I did not find them (do you hate footers ? ;o) ?

With the update today all issues below are still there
For favicon.png I think it should be favicon.ico by the way (did not look into detail but that how it works normally, this was 
introduced by M$ if I recall well, hence the .ico)

Also sometimes on XP using FF3 (a pretty classic set I'd say) I get myself stuck, the UI is not responding anymore. I got this issue 
at least after trying to change themes.

Jacques

From: "Ryan Foster" <ry...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue.
> Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more
> logically in the header.  For instance, the secondary apps have been
> grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been
> grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and
> language.  The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you
> clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate,
> having several errors.
>
> Ryan Foster
> HotWax Media
> 801.671.0769
> ryan.foster@hotwaxmedia.com
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> So far, I found also that :
>> * there is no footer anymore
>> * an issue with favicon.png.
>> * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it.
>> It's like if the last view feature was not working.
>> * the log in webtools is no longer colored
>> * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>> I agree with Hans,
>>>
>>> From: "Hans Bakker" <ma...@antwebsystems.com>
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of
>>>> errors in
>>>> this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic.
>>>>
>>>> after 5 minutes of testing:
>>>> 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable
>>>> (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function)
>>>> 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated,
>>>> wasn't
>>>> there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other
>>>> areas as svn log and ?
>>>
>>> If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax...
>>>
>>>> 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of
>>>> spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at :
>>>> https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet
>>>
>>> Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen
>>> to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size
>>> screen used in the world (1024*768).
>>> And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen
>>> (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the
>>> Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having
>>> a panel open at left, etc.
>>> Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read.
>>>
>>> Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area
>>> (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others
>>> also...). Something like "Main applications" "Secondary
>>> applications", maybe 2 colors also ?
>>>
>>> This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not
>>> much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o)
>>>
>>> Yes thank you for that !
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>> Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next
>>>> level especially in the framework and graphical design areas.
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>> Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we
>>>>> shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end.
>>>>> The
>>>>> old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme
>>>>> component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps
>>>>> doesn't give the best first impression.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the
>>>>> bluelight
>>>>> theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the
>>>>> new
>>>>> web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex
>>>>> theme).
>>>>>
>>>>> One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as
>>>>> thoroughly
>>>>> as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because
>>>>> there are
>>>>> issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we
>>>>> should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing
>>>>> both
>>>>> of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the
>>>>> ecommerce one yet).
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered
>>>>> opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first
>>>>> (and
>>>>> a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes).
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before
>>>>> the
>>>>> release branch next Tuesday.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 



Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Awesome - thanks for the follow up.  I think it got patched up earlier, so it's probably just waiting on the commit (if it's not in there already).  Good stuff.

Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

----- "Ryan Foster" <ry...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:

> The references have been removed and the patch was sent to David.
> 
> Ryan Foster
> HotWax Media
> 801.671.0769
> ryan.foster@hotwaxmedia.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
> 
> > Fost, we do need to get all of those references to HOTWAX out of  
> > this theme - but that was an oversight not a marketing ploy :)   
> > Looking forward to getting this all resolved, but I don't think any 
> 
> > of these things should stop us from using this one - only encourage 
> 
> > everyone to make it better!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tim
> > --
> > Tim Ruppert
> > HotWax Media
> > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >
> > o:801.649.6594
> > f:801.649.6595
> >
> > ----- "Ryan Foster" <ry...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue.
> >> Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more
> >> logically in the header.  For instance, the secondary apps have
> been
> >>
> >> grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been
> >> grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection
> and
> >> language.  The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you
> >> clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate,
> >> having several errors.
> >>
> >> Ryan Foster
> >> HotWax Media
> >> 801.671.0769
> >> ryan.foster@hotwaxmedia.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>
> >>> So far, I found also that :
> >>> * there is no footer anymore
> >>> * an issue with favicon.png.
> >>> * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply
> it.
> >>
> >>> It's like if the last view feature was not working.
> >>> * the log in webtools is no longer colored
> >>> * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order
> view
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>>
> >>> Jacques
> >>>
> >>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
> >>>> I agree with Hans,
> >>>>
> >>>> From: "Hans Bakker" <ma...@antwebsystems.com>
> >>>>> Hi David,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of
> >>>>> errors in
> >>>>> this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very
> >> realistic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> after 5 minutes of testing:
> >>>>> 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable
> >>>>> (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function)
> >>>>> 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much
> appreciated,
> >>
> >>>>> wasn't
> >>>>> there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in
> >> other
> >>>>> areas as svn log and ?
> >>>>
> >>>> If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of
> >> hotwax...
> >>>>
> >>>>> 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide
> because
> >> of
> >>>>> spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at :
> >>>>> https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide
> screen
> >>
> >>>> to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current
> size
> >>
> >>>> screen used in the world (1024*768).
> >>>> And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen
> >>>> (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the
> >>>> Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about
> having
> >>
> >>>> a panel open at left, etc.
> >>>> Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business
> Area
> >>
> >>>> (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others
> >>>> also...). Something like "Main applications" "Secondary
> >>>> applications", maybe 2 colors also ?
> >>>>
> >>>> This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is
> not
> >>
> >>>> much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o)
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes thank you for that !
> >>>>
> >>>> Jacques
> >>>>
> >>>>> Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the
> >> next
> >>>>> level especially in the framework and graphical design areas.
> >>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Hans
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> >>>>>> Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we
> >>>>>> shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the
> back-end.
> >>
> >>>>>> The
> >>>>>> old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a
> >> theme
> >>>>>> component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but
> >> perhaps
> >>>>>> doesn't give the best first impression.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the
> >>>>>> bluelight
> >>>>>> theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like
> the
> >>
> >>>>>> new
> >>>>>> web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the
> multiflex
> >>
> >>>>>> theme).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as
> >>>>>> thoroughly
> >>>>>> as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because
> >>>>>> there are
> >>>>>> issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon
> and
> >> we
> >>>>>> should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own
> testing
> >>
> >>>>>> both
> >>>>>> of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with
> >> the
> >>>>>> ecommerce one yet).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I
> considered
> >>>>>> opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better
> first
> >>
> >>>>>> (and
> >>>>>> a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion
> goes).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen
> before
> >>
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> release branch next Tuesday.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -David
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> -- 
> >>>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>

Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Ryan Foster <ry...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
The references have been removed and the patch was sent to David.

Ryan Foster
HotWax Media
801.671.0769
ryan.foster@hotwaxmedia.com




On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:

> Fost, we do need to get all of those references to HOTWAX out of  
> this theme - but that was an oversight not a marketing ploy :)   
> Looking forward to getting this all resolved, but I don't think any  
> of these things should stop us from using this one - only encourage  
> everyone to make it better!
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> ----- "Ryan Foster" <ry...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue.
>> Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more
>> logically in the header.  For instance, the secondary apps have been
>>
>> grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been
>> grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and
>> language.  The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you
>> clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate,
>> having several errors.
>>
>> Ryan Foster
>> HotWax Media
>> 801.671.0769
>> ryan.foster@hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>>> So far, I found also that :
>>> * there is no footer anymore
>>> * an issue with favicon.png.
>>> * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it.
>>
>>> It's like if the last view feature was not working.
>>> * the log in webtools is no longer colored
>>> * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>>> I agree with Hans,
>>>>
>>>> From: "Hans Bakker" <ma...@antwebsystems.com>
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>
>>>>> from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of
>>>>> errors in
>>>>> this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very
>> realistic.
>>>>>
>>>>> after 5 minutes of testing:
>>>>> 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable
>>>>> (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function)
>>>>> 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated,
>>
>>>>> wasn't
>>>>> there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in
>> other
>>>>> areas as svn log and ?
>>>>
>>>> If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of
>> hotwax...
>>>>
>>>>> 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because
>> of
>>>>> spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at :
>>>>> https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet
>>>>
>>>> Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen
>>
>>>> to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size
>>
>>>> screen used in the world (1024*768).
>>>> And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen
>>>> (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the
>>>> Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having
>>
>>>> a panel open at left, etc.
>>>> Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read.
>>>>
>>>> Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area
>>
>>>> (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others
>>>> also...). Something like "Main applications" "Secondary
>>>> applications", maybe 2 colors also ?
>>>>
>>>> This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not
>>
>>>> much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o)
>>>>
>>>> Yes thank you for that !
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>> Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the
>> next
>>>>> level especially in the framework and graphical design areas.
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Hans
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>> Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we
>>>>>> shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end.
>>
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a
>> theme
>>>>>> component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but
>> perhaps
>>>>>> doesn't give the best first impression.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the
>>>>>> bluelight
>>>>>> theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the
>>
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex
>>
>>>>>> theme).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as
>>>>>> thoroughly
>>>>>> as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because
>>>>>> there are
>>>>>> issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and
>> we
>>>>>> should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing
>>
>>>>>> both
>>>>>> of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with
>> the
>>>>>> ecommerce one yet).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered
>>>>>> opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first
>>
>>>>>> (and
>>>>>> a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before
>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> release branch next Tuesday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>


Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Fost, we do need to get all of those references to HOTWAX out of this theme - but that was an oversight not a marketing ploy :)  Looking forward to getting this all resolved, but I don't think any of these things should stop us from using this one - only encourage everyone to make it better!

Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

----- "Ryan Foster" <ry...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue.   
> Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more  
> logically in the header.  For instance, the secondary apps have been 
> 
> grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been  
> grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and  
> language.  The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you  
> clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate,  
> having several errors.
> 
> Ryan Foster
> HotWax Media
> 801.671.0769
> ryan.foster@hotwaxmedia.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> 
> > So far, I found also that :
> > * there is no footer anymore
> > * an issue with favicon.png.
> > * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it. 
> 
> > It's like if the last view feature was not working.
> > * the log in webtools is no longer colored
> > * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
> >> I agree with Hans,
> >>
> >> From: "Hans Bakker" <ma...@antwebsystems.com>
> >>> Hi David,
> >>>
> >>> from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of  
> >>> errors in
> >>> this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very
> realistic.
> >>>
> >>> after 5 minutes of testing:
> >>> 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable
> >>> (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function)
> >>> 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, 
> 
> >>> wasn't
> >>> there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in
> other
> >>> areas as svn log and ?
> >>
> >> If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of
> hotwax...
> >>
> >>> 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because
> of
> >>> spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at :
> >>> https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet
> >>
> >> Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen 
> 
> >> to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size 
> 
> >> screen used in the world (1024*768).
> >> And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen  
> >> (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the  
> >> Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having
>  
> >> a panel open at left, etc.
> >> Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read.
> >>
> >> Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area 
> 
> >> (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others  
> >> also...). Something like "Main applications" "Secondary  
> >> applications", maybe 2 colors also ?
> >>
> >> This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not
>  
> >> much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o)
> >>
> >> Yes thank you for that !
> >>
> >> Jacques
> >>
> >>> Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the
> next
> >>> level especially in the framework and graphical design areas.  
> >>> Thank you!
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Hans
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> >>>> Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we
> >>>> shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. 
> 
> >>>> The
> >>>> old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a
> theme
> >>>> component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but
> perhaps
> >>>> doesn't give the best first impression.
> >>>>
> >>>> Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the  
> >>>> bluelight
> >>>> theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the
>  
> >>>> new
> >>>> web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex 
> 
> >>>> theme).
> >>>>
> >>>> One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as  
> >>>> thoroughly
> >>>> as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because  
> >>>> there are
> >>>> issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and
> we
> >>>> should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing
>  
> >>>> both
> >>>> of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with
> the
> >>>> ecommerce one yet).
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered
> >>>> opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first
>  
> >>>> (and
> >>>> a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes).
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before
>  
> >>>> the
> >>>> release branch next Tuesday.
> >>>>
> >>>> -David
> >>>>
> >>> -- 
> >>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >

Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Ryan Foster <ry...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue.   
Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more  
logically in the header.  For instance, the secondary apps have been  
grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been  
grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and  
language.  The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you  
clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate,  
having several errors.

Ryan Foster
HotWax Media
801.671.0769
ryan.foster@hotwaxmedia.com




On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> So far, I found also that :
> * there is no footer anymore
> * an issue with favicon.png.
> * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it.  
> It's like if the last view feature was not working.
> * the log in webtools is no longer colored
> * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view
>
> HTH
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>> I agree with Hans,
>>
>> From: "Hans Bakker" <ma...@antwebsystems.com>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of  
>>> errors in
>>> this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic.
>>>
>>> after 5 minutes of testing:
>>> 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable
>>> (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function)
>>> 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated,  
>>> wasn't
>>> there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other
>>> areas as svn log and ?
>>
>> If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax...
>>
>>> 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of
>>> spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at :
>>> https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet
>>
>> Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen  
>> to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size  
>> screen used in the world (1024*768).
>> And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen  
>> (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the  
>> Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having  
>> a panel open at left, etc.
>> Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read.
>>
>> Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area  
>> (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others  
>> also...). Something like "Main applications" "Secondary  
>> applications", maybe 2 colors also ?
>>
>> This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not  
>> much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o)
>>
>> Yes thank you for that !
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>> Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next
>>> level especially in the framework and graphical design areas.  
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>>> Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we
>>>> shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end.  
>>>> The
>>>> old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme
>>>> component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps
>>>> doesn't give the best first impression.
>>>>
>>>> Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the  
>>>> bluelight
>>>> theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the  
>>>> new
>>>> web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex  
>>>> theme).
>>>>
>>>> One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as  
>>>> thoroughly
>>>> as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because  
>>>> there are
>>>> issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we
>>>> should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing  
>>>> both
>>>> of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the
>>>> ecommerce one yet).
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered
>>>> opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first  
>>>> (and
>>>> a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes).
>>>>
>>>> BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before  
>>>> the
>>>> release branch next Tuesday.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>>
>>
>
>


Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
So far, I found also that :
* there is no footer anymore
* an issue with favicon.png.
* when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it. It's like if the last view feature was not working.
* the log in webtools is no longer colored
* it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view

HTH

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>I agree with Hans,
>
> From: "Hans Bakker" <ma...@antwebsystems.com>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in
>> this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic.
>>
>> after 5 minutes of testing:
>> 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable
>> (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function)
>> 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't
>> there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other
>> areas as svn log and ?
>
> If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax...
>
>> 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of
>> spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at :
>> https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet
>
> Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current 
> size screen used in the world (1024*768).
> And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the 
> Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having a panel open at left, etc.
> Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read.
>
> Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others 
> also...). Something like "Main applications" "Secondary applications", maybe 2 colors also ?
>
> This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o)
>
> Yes thank you for that !
>
> Jacques
>
>> Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next
>> level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>> Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we
>>> shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The
>>> old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme
>>> component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps
>>> doesn't give the best first impression.
>>>
>>> Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the bluelight
>>> theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the new
>>> web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex theme).
>>>
>>> One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as thoroughly
>>> as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because there are
>>> issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we
>>> should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing both
>>> of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the
>>> ecommerce one yet).
>>>
>>> Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered
>>> opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first (and
>>> a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes).
>>>
>>> BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before the
>>> release branch next Tuesday.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>> -- 
>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>
>
> 



Re: New Default Theme? not yet

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
I agree with Hans,

From: "Hans Bakker" <ma...@antwebsystems.com>
> Hi David,
>
> from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in
> this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic.
>
> after 5 minutes of testing:
> 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable
> (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function)
> 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't
> there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other
> areas as svn log and ?

If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax...

> 3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of
> spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at :
> https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet

Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current 
size screen used in the world (1024*768).
And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the Store 
(the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having a panel open at left, etc.
Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read.

Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others 
also...). Something like "Main applications" "Secondary applications", maybe 2 colors also ?

This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o)

Yes thank you for that !

Jacques

> Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next
> level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you!
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>> Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we
>> shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The
>> old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme
>> component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps
>> doesn't give the best first impression.
>>
>> Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the bluelight
>> theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the new
>> web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex theme).
>>
>> One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as thoroughly
>> as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because there are
>> issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we
>> should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing both
>> of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the
>> ecommerce one yet).
>>
>> Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered
>> opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first (and
>> a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes).
>>
>> BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before the
>> release branch next Tuesday.
>>
>> -David
>>
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