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Batik business

I just had a look at Batik, because I do not know much about it and as
a PMC member I am supposed to know more about it. A visit to Batik's
web site did not make me much wiser. It does not tell me who the
current committers are. I also noted that the batik-dev and
batik-users lists have not been archived on MARC since March 2005.

Simon

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home page: http://www.leverkruid.eu

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Re: Batik business

Posted by Clay Leeds <we...@mac.com>.
On May 12, 2006, at 12:12 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> On 11.05.2006 23:33:23 Web Maestro Clay wrote:
>> There is a contributors page[1] linked from the side navigation. We
>> are in the process of updating the Batik web site to use Forrest
>> (similar to XML Graphics, XML Graphics Commons & FOP).
>
> The listing of active committers for Batik should be updated. The same
> applies to FOP, BTW. :-)

Yeah. Unfortunately, SVN is down atm, and I'll be out of town this  
weekend. If it's not done by the time I get back, I'll update it.

>> I was unaware of the mailing list problem, and we should definitely
>> look into resolving this problem. Thank you for alerting us! I don't
>> know the process of getting the more recent versions added, but I'll
>> look into it. If someone knows the process, please don't hesitate to
>> chime in!
>
> See: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?q=about#Add
> When the FOP mailing lists were renamed, a mail sent there did the  
> trick.
> But I don't remember who did it. If it was me, I don't remember.
>
> Jeremias Maerki

I think it was you. You seem to do a lot around here.

Clay Leeds
webmaestro@mac.com

My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
-- HH Dalai Lama of Tibet




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Re: Batik business

Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
On 11.05.2006 23:33:23 Web Maestro Clay wrote:
> On May 11, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Simon Pepping wrote:
> > I just had a look at Batik, because I do not know much about it and as
> > a PMC member I am supposed to know more about it. A visit to Batik's
> > web site did not make me much wiser. It does not tell me who the
> > current committers are. I also noted that the batik-dev and
> > batik-users lists have not been archived on MARC since March 2005.
> >
> > Simon
> 
> There is a contributors page[1] linked from the side navigation. We  
> are in the process of updating the Batik web site to use Forrest  
> (similar to XML Graphics, XML Graphics Commons & FOP).

The listing of active committers for Batik should be updated. The same
applies to FOP, BTW. :-)

> I was unaware of the mailing list problem, and we should definitely  
> look into resolving this problem. Thank you for alerting us! I don't  
> know the process of getting the more recent versions added, but I'll  
> look into it. If someone knows the process, please don't hesitate to  
> chime in!

See: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?q=about#Add
When the FOP mailing lists were renamed, a mail sent there did the trick.
But I don't remember who did it. If it was me, I don't remember.


Jeremias Maerki


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Re: Mailing List Archives (was Re: Batik business)

Posted by Web Maestro Clay <th...@gmail.com>.
On May 12, 2006, at 12:07 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> On 12.05.2006 02:07:13 Web Maestro Clay wrote:
>> BTW, is there any reason why we shouldn't add them? I don't want to
>> start showing preference for one 'donor' over another. Anyone object
>> to my adding a link to these Nabble archives to the appropriate
>> mailing list pages?
>
> As you can see on fop-users, many people post to fop-users through
> Nabble rather than through their mail client. It's quite popular  
> already
> and I don't see any reason why we shouldn't provide the link.
>
> I'd simply note that the "main" mailing list archives are the mbox
> archives and the mod_mbox archives on the ASF hardware.
> http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/mail/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/

Sounds good. Since SVN is down right now, and I'll be out of town  
this weekend, I won't be able to commit changes until next week.

> I assume we'll get full-text search capabilities for mod_mbox during
> summer as part of the Google Summer of Code.

That'll be cool!

Web Maestro Clay
the.webmaestro@gmail.com

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-- HH Dalai Lama of Tibet




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Re: Mailing List Archives (was Re: Batik business)

Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
On 12.05.2006 02:07:13 Web Maestro Clay wrote:
> On May 11, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Web Maestro Clay wrote:
> > On May 11, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Simon Pepping wrote:
> >> I just had a look at Batik, because I do not know much about it  
> >> and as
> >> a PMC member I am supposed to know more about it. A visit to Batik's
> >> web site did not make me much wiser. It does not tell me who the
> >> current committers are. I also noted that the batik-dev and
> >> batik-users lists have not been archived on MARC since March 2005.
> >>
> >> Simon
> >
> > There is a contributors page[1] linked from the side navigation. We  
> > are in the process of updating the Batik web site to use Forrest  
> > (similar to XML Graphics, XML Graphics Commons & FOP).
> >
> > I was unaware of the mailing list problem, and we should definitely  
> > look into resolving this problem. Thank you for alerting us! I  
> > don't know the process of getting the more recent versions added,  
> > but I'll look into it. If someone knows the process, please don't  
> > hesitate to chime in!
> >
> > [1] Batik Contributors
> > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/whoAreWe.html
> 
> BTW, I found a few Nabble archives listed below. We should consider  
> adding these to our mail lists page.

I've already added links to Nabble on the XML Graphics site:
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/mail.html#public_archives

FOP also contains links to Nabble:
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/maillist.html

> BTW, is there any reason why we shouldn't add them? I don't want to  
> start showing preference for one 'donor' over another. Anyone object  
> to my adding a link to these Nabble archives to the appropriate  
> mailing list pages?

As you can see on fop-users, many people post to fop-users through
Nabble rather than through their mail client. It's quite popular already
and I don't see any reason why we shouldn't provide the link.

I'd simply note that the "main" mailing list archives are the mbox
archives and the mod_mbox archives on the ASF hardware.
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/mail/
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/

I assume we'll get full-text search capabilities for mod_mbox during
summer as part of the Google Summer of Code.

> We could also add more stuff to gmane using this info:
> http://gmane.org/import.php
> 
> I'm happy to do this, but I want to make certain it's ok first.
> 
> Web Maestro Clay
> 
> [1] Nabble batik-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org archive
> http://www.nabble.com/Batik---Users-f351.html
> 
> [2] Nabble batik-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org archive
> http://www.nabble.com/Batik---Dev-f350.html
> 
> [3] Nabble fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org archive
> http://www.nabble.com/FOP---Users-f353.html
> 
> [4] Nabble fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org archive
> http://www.nabble.com/FOP---Dev-f352.html
> 
> [5] Nabble general@xmlgraphics.apache.org archive
> http://www.nabble.com/Xml-Graphics---General-f354.html


Jeremias Maerki


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Mailing List Archives (was Re: Batik business)

Posted by Web Maestro Clay <th...@gmail.com>.
On May 11, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Web Maestro Clay wrote:
> On May 11, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Simon Pepping wrote:
>> I just had a look at Batik, because I do not know much about it  
>> and as
>> a PMC member I am supposed to know more about it. A visit to Batik's
>> web site did not make me much wiser. It does not tell me who the
>> current committers are. I also noted that the batik-dev and
>> batik-users lists have not been archived on MARC since March 2005.
>>
>> Simon
>
> There is a contributors page[1] linked from the side navigation. We  
> are in the process of updating the Batik web site to use Forrest  
> (similar to XML Graphics, XML Graphics Commons & FOP).
>
> I was unaware of the mailing list problem, and we should definitely  
> look into resolving this problem. Thank you for alerting us! I  
> don't know the process of getting the more recent versions added,  
> but I'll look into it. If someone knows the process, please don't  
> hesitate to chime in!
>
> [1] Batik Contributors
> http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/whoAreWe.html

BTW, I found a few Nabble archives listed below. We should consider  
adding these to our mail lists page.

BTW, is there any reason why we shouldn't add them? I don't want to  
start showing preference for one 'donor' over another. Anyone object  
to my adding a link to these Nabble archives to the appropriate  
mailing list pages?

We could also add more stuff to gmane using this info:
http://gmane.org/import.php

I'm happy to do this, but I want to make certain it's ok first.

Web Maestro Clay

[1] Nabble batik-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org archive
http://www.nabble.com/Batik---Users-f351.html

[2] Nabble batik-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org archive
http://www.nabble.com/Batik---Dev-f350.html

[3] Nabble fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org archive
http://www.nabble.com/FOP---Users-f353.html

[4] Nabble fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org archive
http://www.nabble.com/FOP---Dev-f352.html

[5] Nabble general@xmlgraphics.apache.org archive
http://www.nabble.com/Xml-Graphics---General-f354.html

Web Maestro Clay
the.webmaestro@gmail.com

My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
-- HH Dalai Lama of Tibet




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Re: Batik business

Posted by Web Maestro Clay <th...@gmail.com>.
On May 11, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Simon Pepping wrote:
> I just had a look at Batik, because I do not know much about it and as
> a PMC member I am supposed to know more about it. A visit to Batik's
> web site did not make me much wiser. It does not tell me who the
> current committers are. I also noted that the batik-dev and
> batik-users lists have not been archived on MARC since March 2005.
>
> Simon

There is a contributors page[1] linked from the side navigation. We  
are in the process of updating the Batik web site to use Forrest  
(similar to XML Graphics, XML Graphics Commons & FOP).

I was unaware of the mailing list problem, and we should definitely  
look into resolving this problem. Thank you for alerting us! I don't  
know the process of getting the more recent versions added, but I'll  
look into it. If someone knows the process, please don't hesitate to  
chime in!

[1] Batik Contributors
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/whoAreWe.html

Clay Leeds
webmaestro@mac.com

My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
-- HH Dalai Lama of Tibet




Web Maestro Clay
the.webmaestro@gmail.com

My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
-- HH Dalai Lama of Tibet




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