PMC nominations was Re: Opening up the PMC

[Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>]

On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 15:05 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Roland Weber wrote:
> 
> > Hello Henri,
> >
> > I'm one of those whom it concerns: committer but not PMC.
> >
> >> So being on a PMC means that your legal protection is something you're
> >> supposed to be proactive about
> >
> > Meaning that a PMC member should get an insurance that covers the cost
> > of lawsuits, or contact a lawyer right away to discuss the legal
> > implications of a lawsuit that might be filed in a different country,
> > or what?
> 
> Sorry, that's very badly worded on my part. I didn't mean it to be as 
> scary as it sounds or to imply that being on a PMC requires more legal 
> consultation than just being a developer of open source anywhere.
> 

Henri,
What is the procedure for PMC nominations these days? I would like to
propose Roland for PMC nomination. He's been an indispensable member of
the HttpComponents project for many years. What list am I supposed to
send the proposal to? jakarta-private? jakarta-general?

Oleg


> By being a part of the PMC (and active on the PMC if you're an active 
> committer), then you are ensuring that the foundation is involved in 
> decisions and not just you personally. This increases the level to which 
> the foundation has your back should a legal issue come up (not that any 
> of this is defined, so I'm just passing on things as they've been 
> explained to me over the last couple of years - hopefully accurately :)).
> 
> >> I'm of the opinion that if we have a committer who doesn't want to be on
> >> the pmc, [...], that that committer should become a contributor again.
> >
> > Meaning that because I don't want to get an insurance or contact a
> > lawyer proactively, all the code I submit has to be checked in by
> > another committer, of whom we have too few anyway in HttpComponents?
> >
> > I hope I got you all wrong, because the way I understand it,
> > your proposal sounds really bad.
> 
> Sorry to cause worry. It's the other way around from how you've 
> interpreted it and my reason for the above opinion is that I'd be worried 
> about someone who wanted to sit and code but wanted to continue to 
> delegate responsibility to the pmc/foundation for their code.
> 
> Hen
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Re: PMC nominations was Re: Opening up the PMC

[Henri Yandell <ba...@apache.org>]

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:

> Henri,
> What is the procedure for PMC nominations these days? I would like to
> propose Roland for PMC nomination. He's been an indispensable member of
> the HttpComponents project for many years. What list am I supposed to
> send the proposal to? jakarta-private? jakarta-general?

It's been jakarta-private up til now; but it's becoming more common at the 
ASF for the pmc votes to be on the public list (general@ for us), and to 
mention on private@ a little bit before that you plan to do the vote.

So I guess do it on private, and hopefully we can change that soon(?).

Hen

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