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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by The Doctor <do...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> on 2005/07/06 02:41:30 UTC
Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Spam Assassin 3.0.4 works with milter-spamc 0.25, smf-spamd and MailScanner
Current.
Spam Assassin 3.1.0 only works MailScanner Current less than 10% .
How can I help to determine where the source of the problem is?
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Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Posted by Raymond Dijkxhoorn <ra...@prolocation.net>.
Hi!
> Spam Assassin 3.0.4 works with milter-spamc 0.25, smf-spamd and MailScanner
> Current.
>
> Spam Assassin 3.1.0 only works MailScanner Current less than 10% .
>
> How can I help to determine where the source of the problem is?
I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you talking about
MailScanner (www.mailscanner.info) ? If so, MailScanner doesnt use Spamc
or anything. And works just fine here. running it on most of our
production boxes (-per3) with MailScanner 4.44-1.
What do you mean with less then 10% ?
Bye,
Raymond.
Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Posted by Loren Wilton <lw...@earthlink.net>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "The Doctor" <do...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
To: "Justin Mason" <jm...@jmason.org>
Cc: "Matt Kettler" <mk...@comcast.net>;
<us...@spamassassin.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
> On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 02:32:43PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote:
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> >
> > The Doctor writes:
> > > FOund the problem. From the logs:
> > >
> > > Thu Jul 7 21:55:45 2005 [4390] dbg: spamd: initial attempt to change
real uid failed, trying BSD workaround
> > >
> > > Thu Jul 7 21:55:45 2005 [4390] error: setruid() not implemented at
/usr/contrib/bin/spamd line 870.
> > >
> > > BSD HATES setruid(). I had to disable this in openwebmail
> > > for me to get openwebmail to work. You may want to add code that
disables
> > > setruid in BSD.
> >
> > That might be tricky. We don't have any code that *enables* it.
> >
> > : exit=1 Fri Jul 8 14:31:02 PDT 2005; cd /home/jm/ftp/spamassassin/t
> > : jm 29...; grep -r setruid ../lib ../spamd/spamd.raw
> > : exit=1 Fri Jul 8 14:31:07 PDT 2005; cd /home/jm/ftp/spamassassin/t
> > : jm 30...; grep -r setreuid ../lib ../spamd/spamd.raw
> > : exit=1 Fri Jul 8 14:31:10 PDT 2005; cd /home/jm/ftp/spamassassin/t
> > : jm 31...;
> >
> > We only use the perl builtins $> and $< to manipulate UIDs -- if there's
> > errors from that, you need to find a new perl that supports a working
form
> > of UID-changing on your platform.
> >
>
> This is the most current perl 5.8.7 .
>
> Next suggestion?
File a Perl bug report?
Loren
Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Posted by Kai Schaetzl <ma...@conactive.com>.
The Doctor wrote on Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:22:02 -0600:
> Next suggestion?
Take a long sleep and ask yourself if the attitude you are currently
showing will get you any further.
Kai
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Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Posted by The Doctor <do...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>.
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 02:32:43PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote:
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>
> The Doctor writes:
> > FOund the problem. From the logs:
> >
> > Thu Jul 7 21:55:45 2005 [4390] dbg: spamd: initial attempt to change real uid failed, trying BSD workaround
> >
> > Thu Jul 7 21:55:45 2005 [4390] error: setruid() not implemented at /usr/contrib/bin/spamd line 870.
> >
> > BSD HATES setruid(). I had to disable this in openwebmail
> > for me to get openwebmail to work. You may want to add code that disables
> > setruid in BSD.
>
> That might be tricky. We don't have any code that *enables* it.
>
> : exit=1 Fri Jul 8 14:31:02 PDT 2005; cd /home/jm/ftp/spamassassin/t
> : jm 29...; grep -r setruid ../lib ../spamd/spamd.raw
> : exit=1 Fri Jul 8 14:31:07 PDT 2005; cd /home/jm/ftp/spamassassin/t
> : jm 30...; grep -r setreuid ../lib ../spamd/spamd.raw
> : exit=1 Fri Jul 8 14:31:10 PDT 2005; cd /home/jm/ftp/spamassassin/t
> : jm 31...;
>
> We only use the perl builtins $> and $< to manipulate UIDs -- if there's
> errors from that, you need to find a new perl that supports a working form
> of UID-changing on your platform.
>
This is the most current perl 5.8.7 .
Next suggestion?
> - --j.
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Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Posted by The Doctor <do...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>.
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 11:11:40AM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote:
> At 04:29 AM 7/8/2005, Martin Hepworth wrote:
> >Well that's the problem then. You are starting spamd, which MailScanner
> >does not use..
> >
> >Other people on the MailScanner list report no issues with SA 3.1/
>
> And before anyone leaps to conclusions, MailScaner doesn't use the
> "spamassassin" command line either. MailScanner is a perl program, so it
> calls SA's perl API directly.
>
> Since MailScanner's children stay loaded and get re-used for many messages,
> MailScanner in effect acts as it's own spamd.
>
>
Back to the point . Just fix the setruid issue.
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Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Posted by Matt Kettler <mk...@comcast.net>.
At 04:29 AM 7/8/2005, Martin Hepworth wrote:
>Well that's the problem then. You are starting spamd, which MailScanner
>does not use..
>
>Other people on the MailScanner list report no issues with SA 3.1/
And before anyone leaps to conclusions, MailScaner doesn't use the
"spamassassin" command line either. MailScanner is a perl program, so it
calls SA's perl API directly.
Since MailScanner's children stay loaded and get re-used for many messages,
MailScanner in effect acts as it's own spamd.
Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Posted by Martin Hepworth <ma...@solid-state-logic.com>.
The Doctor wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 09:01:25PM -0600, The Doctor wrote:
>
>>On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 10:23:45PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote:
>>
>>>At 08:41 PM 7/5/2005, The Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>>Spam Assassin 3.0.4 works with milter-spamc 0.25, smf-spamd and MailScanner
>>>>Current.
>>>>
>>>>Spam Assassin 3.1.0 only works MailScanner Current less than 10% .
>>>>
>>>>How can I help to determine where the source of the problem is?
>>>
>>>
>>>There is no such thing as 3.1.0 yet...
>>>
>>>did you mean 3.1.0-pre1, 3.1.0-pre2 or 3.1.0-pre3 or a SVN build?
>>>
>>>In general, all of these are unreleased, so may have some minor issues.
>>>Certainly MailScanner is most likely to be impacted by these, as
>>>MailScanner is an API layer caller. You might also check on the MailScanner
>>>mailing list to see if Julian is working on some adjustments for 3.1.0
>>>support.
>>>
>>>Also what do you mean by "only works MailScanner Current less than 10%?".
>>>Do you mean it is only marking 10% of your spam?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>pre3 and yes about the marking.
>>
>
>
> FOund the problem. From the logs:
>
> Thu Jul 7 21:55:45 2005 [4390] dbg: spamd: initial attempt to change real uid failed, trying BSD workaround
>
> Thu Jul 7 21:55:45 2005 [4390] error: setruid() not implemented at /usr/contrib/bin/spamd line 870.
>
> BSD HATES setruid(). I had to disable this in openwebmail
> for me to get openwebmail to work. You may want to add code that disables
> setruid in BSD.
>
>
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Well that's the problem then. You are starting spamd, which MailScanner
does not use..
Other people on the MailScanner list report no issues with SA 3.1/
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Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Posted by The Doctor <do...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>.
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 09:01:25PM -0600, The Doctor wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 10:23:45PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote:
> > At 08:41 PM 7/5/2005, The Doctor wrote:
> > >Spam Assassin 3.0.4 works with milter-spamc 0.25, smf-spamd and MailScanner
> > >Current.
> > >
> > >Spam Assassin 3.1.0 only works MailScanner Current less than 10% .
> > >
> > >How can I help to determine where the source of the problem is?
> >
> >
> > There is no such thing as 3.1.0 yet...
> >
> > did you mean 3.1.0-pre1, 3.1.0-pre2 or 3.1.0-pre3 or a SVN build?
> >
> > In general, all of these are unreleased, so may have some minor issues.
> > Certainly MailScanner is most likely to be impacted by these, as
> > MailScanner is an API layer caller. You might also check on the MailScanner
> > mailing list to see if Julian is working on some adjustments for 3.1.0
> > support.
> >
> > Also what do you mean by "only works MailScanner Current less than 10%?".
> > Do you mean it is only marking 10% of your spam?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> pre3 and yes about the marking.
>
FOund the problem. From the logs:
Thu Jul 7 21:55:45 2005 [4390] dbg: spamd: initial attempt to change real uid failed, trying BSD workaround
Thu Jul 7 21:55:45 2005 [4390] error: setruid() not implemented at /usr/contrib/bin/spamd line 870.
BSD HATES setruid(). I had to disable this in openwebmail
for me to get openwebmail to work. You may want to add code that disables
setruid in BSD.
> --
> Member - Liberal International
> This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
> God Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
> Canada Day 1 July, USA Day 4 July - PARTY ON!
--
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God Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Canada Day 1 July, USA Day 4 July - PARTY ON!
Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Posted by The Doctor <do...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>.
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 10:23:45PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote:
> At 08:41 PM 7/5/2005, The Doctor wrote:
> >Spam Assassin 3.0.4 works with milter-spamc 0.25, smf-spamd and MailScanner
> >Current.
> >
> >Spam Assassin 3.1.0 only works MailScanner Current less than 10% .
> >
> >How can I help to determine where the source of the problem is?
>
>
> There is no such thing as 3.1.0 yet...
>
> did you mean 3.1.0-pre1, 3.1.0-pre2 or 3.1.0-pre3 or a SVN build?
>
> In general, all of these are unreleased, so may have some minor issues.
> Certainly MailScanner is most likely to be impacted by these, as
> MailScanner is an API layer caller. You might also check on the MailScanner
> mailing list to see if Julian is working on some adjustments for 3.1.0
> support.
>
> Also what do you mean by "only works MailScanner Current less than 10%?".
> Do you mean it is only marking 10% of your spam?
>
>
>
>
>
pre3 and yes about the marking.
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Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Posted by Matt Kettler <mk...@comcast.net>.
At 08:41 PM 7/5/2005, The Doctor wrote:
>Spam Assassin 3.0.4 works with milter-spamc 0.25, smf-spamd and MailScanner
>Current.
>
>Spam Assassin 3.1.0 only works MailScanner Current less than 10% .
>
>How can I help to determine where the source of the problem is?
There is no such thing as 3.1.0 yet...
did you mean 3.1.0-pre1, 3.1.0-pre2 or 3.1.0-pre3 or a SVN build?
In general, all of these are unreleased, so may have some minor issues.
Certainly MailScanner is most likely to be impacted by these, as
MailScanner is an API layer caller. You might also check on the MailScanner
mailing list to see if Julian is working on some adjustments for 3.1.0 support.
Also what do you mean by "only works MailScanner Current less than 10%?".
Do you mean it is only marking 10% of your spam?
Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Posted by Kai Schaetzl <ma...@conactive.com>.
The Doctor wrote on Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:41:30 -0600:
> Spam Assassin 3.1.0 only works MailScanner Current less than 10% .
What do you mean by that? MailScanner latest plus SA 3.1.0-pre-something
works. No problems at all.
Kai
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Re: Still need to work on Mail SpamAssassin 3.1.0
Posted by Andy Jezierski <aj...@stepan.com>.
The Doctor <do...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote on 07/05/2005 07:41:30 PM:
> Spam Assassin 3.0.4 works with milter-spamc 0.25, smf-spamd and
MailScanner
> Current.
>
> Spam Assassin 3.1.0 only works MailScanner Current less than 10% .
>
> How can I help to determine where the source of the problem is?
>
Don't know what you mean. I have milter-spamc 0.25 working just fine with
the latest 3.1 SVN release.
Andy