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Posted to dev@edgent.apache.org by Kathy Saunders <os...@gmail.com> on 2016/05/17 20:49:15 UTC
Renaming Quarks
I researched the Quarks name and took the findings to the Quarks PMC. Due
to the name not being unique enough, the PMC has determined that we should
rename our project.
I am calling for ideas for a new name, keeping in mind the following from
the web site on suitable names (
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#elimination). Please provide
your ideas or comment on your preferences.
To be suitable, a name needs to be
- judged *appropriate* by the wider community; and
- *unique enough* to avoid confusion
If I have enough ideas, I will probably put together a list for
discussion/vote early next week. To start, here are some ideas some of my
colleagues suggested:
Pipir - (2 pi r) -- i.e. everything on the edge; and pronounced piper
Tringa (a wading piper) - http://tringa.com/index.php?submit=about
[image: Inline image 1]
Tringa came with a suggestion for a logo
[image: Inline image 4]
Nyquist
Mist
Diztil - play on distil
Thanks,
Kathy
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Mike Spicer <sp...@gmail.com>.
I like Anemone, and the challenge of saying and spelling it correctly keeps you on your toes. I also like Ejji and diztil (although auto correct battling to correct diztil to distill could wear thin).
Another suggestion is Edgent as a conflation of Edge Agent, no hits on google for edging software or on trademarks.
Cheers,
Mike.
> On May 19, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Kathy Saunders <os...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Re Anemone and trademarks.
>>
>> Trademarks exist for diet supplements, beauty products, perfumes, fish
>> shop, letterpress, handmade paper flowers and soft toy. Not all are “live”.
>> So it looks like there would be no trademark confusion here [1].
>>
>> A google search for ”+anemone +software" gives only 28 hits! There are
>> however several github repo with the name [3] The most active/popular
>> being a web spider framework. [4]
>>
>> Other google search found mini storage / camping / marina software [5][6]
>> and a few games and screen savers.
>>
>> So other than web sider framework there’s actually very little in the same
>> space and no potential trademarks issues that I could find.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>>
>>
> Thanks for doing the searching. I got similar results when I search on
> Anemone. I've been putting my search results on the wiki at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/QUARKS/Quarks+Renaming+Discussion,
> and added a few that you found to the list I compiled there.
>
> Kathy
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Kathy Saunders <os...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Re Anemone and trademarks.
>
> Trademarks exist for diet supplements, beauty products, perfumes, fish
> shop, letterpress, handmade paper flowers and soft toy. Not all are “live”.
> So it looks like there would be no trademark confusion here [1].
>
> A google search for ”+anemone +software" gives only 28 hits! There are
> however several github repo with the name [3] The most active/popular
> being a web spider framework. [4]
>
> Other google search found mini storage / camping / marina software [5][6]
> and a few games and screen savers.
>
> So other than web sider framework there’s actually very little in the same
> space and no potential trademarks issues that I could find.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
>
Thanks for doing the searching. I got similar results when I search on
Anemone. I've been putting my search results on the wiki at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/QUARKS/Quarks+Renaming+Discussion,
and added a few that you found to the list I compiled there.
Kathy
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
Re Anemone and trademarks.
Trademarks exist for diet supplements, beauty products, perfumes, fish shop, letterpress, handmade paper flowers and soft toy. Not all are “live”. So it looks like there would be no trademark confusion here [1].
A google search for ”+anemone +software" gives only 28 hits! There are however several github repo with the name [3] The most active/popular being a web spider framework. [4]
Other google search found mini storage / camping / marina software [5][6] and a few games and screen savers.
So other than web sider framework there’s actually very little in the same space and no potential trademarks issues that I could find.
Thanks,
Justin
1. http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4802%3Axamxn5.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=Anemone&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
2. https://www.google.com.au/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=anemone+software&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=JC4-V9PSMcXN8geEuqNg#q=anemone+software
3. https://github.com/search?utf8=✓&q=anemone
4. https://github.com/chriskite/anemone
5. http://www.rocksoft.ca/anglais/complete-marina-management-software-solution.php
6 http://anemonesoftwares.com
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Queenie Ma <qu...@gmail.com>.
I like Anemone and Edgean (mentioned in the Wiki).
I added Fledge: a portmanteau of 'flow' and 'edge'. It rolls of the tongue
pretty easily and I only found two instances of the word in a Google search.
--
Queenie
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Susan Cline <ho...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> I like both Tringa and Anemone.
>
> I also added Bobcat for the following reasons: They consume almost
> anything, are very adaptable, and live on forest edges.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Susan
>
> > On May 19, 2016, at 7:36 AM, Alexander Cook <ac...@umn.edu> wrote:
> >
> > I also enjoy Apache Anemone and everyone loves anemones! Pipir is clever,
> > and by derivation Tringa rolls off the tongue nicely and is a bit easier
> to
> > pronounce than anemone :-) The Tringa logo looks cool. Kinaara sounds
> > smooth like a lot of data is flowing without much effort.
> >
> > I haven't thought of any good ideas myself, but I think we've got a good
> > start.
> >
> > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Kathy Saunders <os...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I like Anemone, but I think I just like to say "Apache Anemone". My
> >> daughter is very annoyed with me :-)
> >>
> >> I added Enzyme to the wiki as a possibility.
> >>
> >> Kathy
> >>
>
>
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Susan Cline <ho...@pacbell.net>.
I like both Tringa and Anemone.
I also added Bobcat for the following reasons: They consume almost anything, are very adaptable, and live on forest edges.
Cheers,
Susan
> On May 19, 2016, at 7:36 AM, Alexander Cook <ac...@umn.edu> wrote:
>
> I also enjoy Apache Anemone and everyone loves anemones! Pipir is clever,
> and by derivation Tringa rolls off the tongue nicely and is a bit easier to
> pronounce than anemone :-) The Tringa logo looks cool. Kinaara sounds
> smooth like a lot of data is flowing without much effort.
>
> I haven't thought of any good ideas myself, but I think we've got a good
> start.
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Kathy Saunders <os...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I like Anemone, but I think I just like to say "Apache Anemone". My
>> daughter is very annoyed with me :-)
>>
>> I added Enzyme to the wiki as a possibility.
>>
>> Kathy
>>
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Dan Debrunner <dj...@debrunners.com>.
On 5/19/2016 7:36 AM, Alexander Cook wrote:
> I also enjoy Apache Anemone and everyone loves anemones! Pipir is clever,
> and by derivation Tringa rolls off the tongue nicely and is a bit easier to
> pronounce than anemone :-) The Tringa logo looks cool. Kinaara sounds
> smooth like a lot of data is flowing without much effort.
I have the feeling that any existing (english?) word is likely to be
used in some way with software, especially animals. It might be better
that we use a made up word to guarantee uniqueness.
Dan.
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Alexander Cook <ac...@umn.edu>.
I also enjoy Apache Anemone and everyone loves anemones! Pipir is clever,
and by derivation Tringa rolls off the tongue nicely and is a bit easier to
pronounce than anemone :-) The Tringa logo looks cool. Kinaara sounds
smooth like a lot of data is flowing without much effort.
I haven't thought of any good ideas myself, but I think we've got a good
start.
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Kathy Saunders <os...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I like Anemone, but I think I just like to say "Apache Anemone". My
> daughter is very annoyed with me :-)
>
> I added Enzyme to the wiki as a possibility.
>
> Kathy
>
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Kathy Saunders <os...@gmail.com>.
I like Anemone, but I think I just like to say "Apache Anemone". My
daughter is very annoyed with me :-)
I added Enzyme to the wiki as a possibility.
Kathy
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Dan Debrunner <dj...@debrunners.com>.
On 5/17/2016 3:22 PM, Katherine Marsden wrote:
> On the name itself I don't have specific suggestions, but it might be a
> good idea to stick with something that starts with a consonant, so the
> documentation doesn't have to be reviewed and changed from a Quarks ...
> to an Avowelname ...
I can see your point but if a vowel name is good enough then I think
it's worth the effort to fix any doc issues.
Dan.
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
Not done a full trademark search but what about “anemone”? It grabs and filters things and lives in tidal areas / on the edge of the sea.
One down side it may be to difficult to spell?
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Cazen Lee <po...@gmail.com>.
Now I can see the image properly.
Thank you Kathy!
--
Cazen.lee@gmail.com
Cazen.lee@samsung.com
http://www.cazen.co.kr
2016. 5. 18. 오후 2:19에 "Kathy Saunders" <os...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:56 PM, Cazen Lee <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Kathy :)
> > But I still couldn't see the image.
> > Does it appear correctly on you screen?
> >
> > --
> > Cazen.lee@gmail.com
> > Cazen.lee@samsung.com
> > http://www.cazen.co.kr
> > 2016. 5. 18. 오후 1:49에 "Kathy Saunders" <os...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
> >
>
> It does display properly for me. I am using Firefox. I tried making the
> images a bit smaller and saving them differently. Can you check it again?
> I can also try sending them to you directly as email attachments. Does
> anyone else have trouble seeing them?
>
> Kathy
>
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Kathy Saunders <os...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:56 PM, Cazen Lee <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Kathy :)
> But I still couldn't see the image.
> Does it appear correctly on you screen?
>
> --
> Cazen.lee@gmail.com
> Cazen.lee@samsung.com
> http://www.cazen.co.kr
> 2016. 5. 18. 오후 1:49에 "Kathy Saunders" <os...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
>
It does display properly for me. I am using Firefox. I tried making the
images a bit smaller and saving them differently. Can you check it again?
I can also try sending them to you directly as email attachments. Does
anyone else have trouble seeing them?
Kathy
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Cazen Lee <po...@gmail.com>.
Thank you Kathy :)
But I still couldn't see the image.
Does it appear correctly on you screen?
--
Cazen.lee@gmail.com
Cazen.lee@samsung.com
http://www.cazen.co.kr
2016. 5. 18. 오후 1:49에 "Kathy Saunders" <os...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
> >
> > I'd suggest starting a Wiki page with suggestions as images won't appear
> > in the archives. Also this would provide a place to specifically
> contribute
> > ideas and images.
> >
> > On the name itself I don't have specific suggestions, but it might be a
> > good idea to stick with something that starts with a consonant, so the
> > documentation doesn't have to be reviewed and changed from a Quarks ...
> to
> > an Avowelname ...
> >
> > Kathey
> >
> >
> I think this is excellent advice. I started a wiki page here
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/QUARKS/Quarks+Renaming+Discussion
> .
> Please add your ideas or comments to the wiki. I'll also watch the dev
> list and add any information that might not make it onto the wiki. Happy
> naming!
>
> Kathy
>
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Kathy Saunders <os...@gmail.com>.
>
> I'd suggest starting a Wiki page with suggestions as images won't appear
> in the archives. Also this would provide a place to specifically contribute
> ideas and images.
>
> On the name itself I don't have specific suggestions, but it might be a
> good idea to stick with something that starts with a consonant, so the
> documentation doesn't have to be reviewed and changed from a Quarks ... to
> an Avowelname ...
>
> Kathey
>
>
I think this is excellent advice. I started a wiki page here
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/QUARKS/Quarks+Renaming+Discussion.
Please add your ideas or comments to the wiki. I'll also watch the dev
list and add any information that might not make it onto the wiki. Happy
naming!
Kathy
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Katherine Marsden <km...@apache.org>.
On 5/17/16 1:49 PM, Kathy Saunders wrote:
>
> I am calling for ideas for a new name, keeping in mind the following
> from the web site on suitable names
> (http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#elimination). Please
> provide your ideas or comment on your preferences.
>
>
Thanks Kathy for starting this conversation.
I'd suggest starting a Wiki page with suggestions as images won't appear
in the archives. Also this would provide a place to specifically
contribute ideas and images.
On the name itself I don't have specific suggestions, but it might be a
good idea to stick with something that starts with a consonant, so the
documentation doesn't have to be reviewed and changed from a Quarks ...
to an Avowelname ...
Kathey
Re: Renaming Quarks
Posted by Samantha Chan <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi Kathy -
Nice Logos!
Here are a couple of ideas from my team:
Kinaara - edge in Hindi
Ejji - edge in Japanese
Thanks!
Samantha
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Kathy Saunders <os...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I researched the Quarks name and took the findings to the Quarks PMC. Due
> to the name not being unique enough, the PMC has determined that we should
> rename our project.
>
> I am calling for ideas for a new name, keeping in mind the following from
> the web site on suitable names (
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#elimination). Please
> provide your ideas or comment on your preferences.
>
> To be suitable, a name needs to be
>
> - judged *appropriate* by the wider community; and
> - *unique enough* to avoid confusion
>
> If I have enough ideas, I will probably put together a list for
> discussion/vote early next week. To start, here are some ideas some of my
> colleagues suggested:
>
> Pipir - (2 pi r) -- i.e. everything on the edge; and pronounced piper
>
> Tringa (a wading piper) - http://tringa.com/index.php?submit=about
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
> Tringa came with a suggestion for a logo
>
> [image: Inline image 4]
>
> Nyquist
>
> Mist
>
> Diztil - play on distil
>
> Thanks,
> Kathy
>