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[VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4
There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with
Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release.
Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009.
While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be
some libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5.
Also, we'd spare ourselves some efforts not having to support Java 5
anymore.
The vote will run for 3 days and, if it succeeds, I will increase the
minimum required Java version to 1.6.
Jochen Kemnade: +1 (non-binding)
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Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4
Posted by Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>.
Ulrich Stärk: +0 (binding)
As I said earlier, I don't see the benefit in upgrading to 'just' 1.6 right now, even if it means we
could use newer versions of our dependencies. If you want to do it anyway I won't stand in your way.
Cheers,
Uli
On 2014-05-15 15:14, Jochen Kemnade wrote:
> There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4
> release.
> Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009.
> While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be some libraries that we
> cannot use because they do not support Java 5. Also, we'd spare ourselves some efforts not having to
> support Java 5 anymore.
> The vote will run for 3 days and, if it succeeds, I will increase the minimum required Java version
> to 1.6.
>
> Jochen Kemnade: +1 (non-binding)
>
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Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4
Posted by Lenny Primak <lp...@hope.nyc.ny.us>.
Lenny Primak: +1 (non-binding)
A huge +1 for 5.3.8 release that supports Java 8.
> On May 16, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Bob Harner <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Bob Harner: +1 (non-binding)
>
> (As an aside, it's been over a year since our last 5.3.x release. It
> might be good to put out a 5.3.8 release soon, which will remain Java
> 5 compatible, of course.)
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Jochen Kemnade
> <jo...@eddyson.de> wrote:
>> There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with Java
>> 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release.
>> Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009.
>> While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be some
>> libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5. Also, we'd
>> spare ourselves some efforts not having to support Java 5 anymore.
>> The vote will run for 3 days and, if it succeeds, I will increase the
>> minimum required Java version to 1.6.
>>
>> Jochen Kemnade: +1 (non-binding)
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4
Posted by Bob Harner <bo...@gmail.com>.
Bob Harner: +1 (non-binding)
(As an aside, it's been over a year since our last 5.3.x release. It
might be good to put out a 5.3.8 release soon, which will remain Java
5 compatible, of course.)
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Jochen Kemnade
<jo...@eddyson.de> wrote:
> There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with Java
> 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release.
> Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009.
> While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be some
> libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5. Also, we'd
> spare ourselves some efforts not having to support Java 5 anymore.
> The vote will run for 3 days and, if it succeeds, I will increase the
> minimum required Java version to 1.6.
>
> Jochen Kemnade: +1 (non-binding)
>
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Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4
Posted by françois facon <fr...@gmail.com>.
François Facon: +1 (non-binding)
2014-05-15 15:14 GMT+02:00 Jochen Kemnade <jo...@eddyson.de>:
> There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with
> Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release.
> Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009.
> While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be
> some libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5. Also,
> we'd spare ourselves some efforts not having to support Java 5 anymore.
> The vote will run for 3 days and, if it succeeds, I will increase the
> minimum required Java version to 1.6.
>
> Jochen Kemnade: +1 (non-binding)
>
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Re: [VOTE CANCELED] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4
Posted by Jochen Kemnade <ke...@gmail.com>.
I guess we cannot just resume the canceled vote and I think there's
already been too much confusion, so I'll start a new vote now. Sorry for
the trouble.
Regarding the voting period, can we start a vote with an undetermined
end and let it run until we get all the votes that we need?
I'll start it with the 3 day period nonetheless. If someone objects in a
few weeks and convinces the rest of us, we could probably revert this
change without too much effort.
Jochen
Am 18.05.2014 13:10, schrieb Ulrich Stärk:
> I've always seen the 3-days as the minimum number of days the vote will run in order to give
> everybody a chance to participate. If it takes us longer then there's no harm done by having it run
> a week or even longer (think of people on vacation, etc.). All that's required is 3 binding +1 and
> more +1 than -1.
>
> Uli
>
> On 2014-05-16 12:43, Jochen Kemnade wrote:
>> Am 15.05.2014 15:14, schrieb Jochen Kemnade:
>>> There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with
>>> Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release.
>>> Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009.
>>> While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be
>>> some libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5.
>>> Also, we'd spare ourselves some efforts not having to support Java 5
>>> anymore.
>>> The vote will run for 3 days and, if it succeeds, I will increase the
>>> minimum required Java version to 1.6.
>>>
>>> Jochen Kemnade: +1 (non-binding)
>>
>> Due to the mail outage [1], the 3 days might be over before the voting call has even hit the list.
>> I'll start a new vote once mails start flowing again.
>>
>> Jochen
>>
>> [1] https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/mail_outage
>>
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Re: [VOTE CANCELED] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4
Posted by Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>.
I've always seen the 3-days as the minimum number of days the vote will run in order to give
everybody a chance to participate. If it takes us longer then there's no harm done by having it run
a week or even longer (think of people on vacation, etc.). All that's required is 3 binding +1 and
more +1 than -1.
Uli
On 2014-05-16 12:43, Jochen Kemnade wrote:
> Am 15.05.2014 15:14, schrieb Jochen Kemnade:
>> There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with
>> Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release.
>> Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009.
>> While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be
>> some libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5.
>> Also, we'd spare ourselves some efforts not having to support Java 5
>> anymore.
>> The vote will run for 3 days and, if it succeeds, I will increase the
>> minimum required Java version to 1.6.
>>
>> Jochen Kemnade: +1 (non-binding)
>
> Due to the mail outage [1], the 3 days might be over before the voting call has even hit the list.
> I'll start a new vote once mails start flowing again.
>
> Jochen
>
> [1] https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/mail_outage
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[VOTE CANCELED] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4
Posted by Jochen Kemnade <jo...@eddyson.de>.
Am 15.05.2014 15:14, schrieb Jochen Kemnade:
> There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with
> Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release.
> Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009.
> While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be
> some libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5.
> Also, we'd spare ourselves some efforts not having to support Java 5
> anymore.
> The vote will run for 3 days and, if it succeeds, I will increase the
> minimum required Java version to 1.6.
>
> Jochen Kemnade: +1 (non-binding)
Due to the mail outage [1], the 3 days might be over before the voting
call has even hit the list.
I'll start a new vote once mails start flowing again.
Jochen
[1] https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/mail_outage
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Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4
Posted by Jochen Kemnade <ke...@gmail.com>.
The cancelation mail hit the list before the actual voting call. The
timestamps were messed up too. So it's canceled and a new vote is yet to be
started. I'll wait until I'm sure that the ASF mail issues are sorted out.
Am 18.05.2014 00:45 schrieb "Howard Lewis Ship" <hl...@gmail.com>:
> Between VOTE and VOTE CANCELED, not sure what's going any any more.
>
>
> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Dmitry Gusev <dmitry.gusev@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Dmitry Gusev: +1 (non-binding)
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Andreas Ernst <ae...@ae-online.de> wrote:
> >
> > > Andreas Ernst: +1 (non-binding)
> > >
> > > Am 15.05.14 15:14, schrieb Jochen Kemnade:
> > >
> > > There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with
> > >> Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release.
> > >> Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009.
> > >> While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might
> be
> > >> some libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5.
> > >> Also, we'd spare ourselves some efforts not having to support Java 5
> > >> anymore.
> > >> The vote will run for 3 days and, if it succeeds, I will increase the
> > >> minimum required Java version to 1.6.
> > >>
> > >> Jochen Kemnade: +1 (non-binding)
> > >>
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Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
Between VOTE and VOTE CANCELED, not sure what's going any any more.
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Dmitry Gusev <dm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Dmitry Gusev: +1 (non-binding)
>
>
> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Andreas Ernst <ae...@ae-online.de> wrote:
>
> > Andreas Ernst: +1 (non-binding)
> >
> > Am 15.05.14 15:14, schrieb Jochen Kemnade:
> >
> > There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with
> >> Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release.
> >> Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009.
> >> While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be
> >> some libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5.
> >> Also, we'd spare ourselves some efforts not having to support Java 5
> >> anymore.
> >> The vote will run for 3 days and, if it succeeds, I will increase the
> >> minimum required Java version to 1.6.
> >>
> >> Jochen Kemnade: +1 (non-binding)
> >>
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Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4
Posted by Dmitry Gusev <dm...@gmail.com>.
Dmitry Gusev: +1 (non-binding)
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Andreas Ernst <ae...@ae-online.de> wrote:
> Andreas Ernst: +1 (non-binding)
>
> Am 15.05.14 15:14, schrieb Jochen Kemnade:
>
> There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with
>> Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release.
>> Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009.
>> While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be
>> some libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5.
>> Also, we'd spare ourselves some efforts not having to support Java 5
>> anymore.
>> The vote will run for 3 days and, if it succeeds, I will increase the
>> minimum required Java version to 1.6.
>>
>> Jochen Kemnade: +1 (non-binding)
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4
Posted by Andreas Ernst <ae...@ae-online.de>.
Andreas Ernst: +1 (non-binding)
Am 15.05.14 15:14, schrieb Jochen Kemnade:
> There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with
> Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release.
> Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009.
> While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be
> some libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5.
> Also, we'd spare ourselves some efforts not having to support Java 5
> anymore.
> The vote will run for 3 days and, if it succeeds, I will increase the
> minimum required Java version to 1.6.
>
> Jochen Kemnade: +1 (non-binding)
>
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