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Posted to dev@harmony.apache.org by Alex Blewitt <al...@gmail.com> on 2006/11/21 23:04:14 UTC

EclipseCon 2007

Is anyone going to be presenting a talk on Harmony at EclipseCon 2007
next year (March)? The 'deadline' for submissions for long talks (1hr)
is 1st December.

"A Long talk is one hour (or slightly less) presentation that goes
into detail on a topic. A good talk requires preparation and a good
pace; the EclipseCon audience is typically intelligent and well
prepared and thus any introductory material should be very brief (less
than five minutes). There will be four or more long talks happening
simultaneously (in separate rooms, of course)."

I couldn't see any submissions by others
(http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/php/search-specific.php?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=&track_id=0&content=harmony)
on the subject. Short talks are only 5 minutes long, and won't be that
good for advertising Harmony :-)

I'll be at EclipseCon, and I'd be happy to present a short talk on
Harmony, but I think that it would be better for someone more core to
present a long talk, like Tim did for EclipseCon 2006.
(http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=531)

Any takers?

Alex.

Re: EclipseCon 2007

Posted by Jin Mingjian <ji...@gmail.com>.
Tim, Good work! I've voted it:)

2006/11/30, Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com>:
> I was kinda hoping that somebody else would step up and register a talk,
> so people don't get bored of the same old faces at these things :-) ,
> but given nobody did I've put in for an updated version of last year's
> talk so we can show the fantastic progress that _you_ all have made.
>
> Now go and vote for it here ;-)
>
>  http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3768
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
> Alex Blewitt wrote:
> > Is anyone going to be presenting a talk on Harmony at EclipseCon 2007
> > next year (March)? The 'deadline' for submissions for long talks (1hr)
> > is 1st December.
> >
> > "A Long talk is one hour (or slightly less) presentation that goes
> > into detail on a topic. A good talk requires preparation and a good
> > pace; the EclipseCon audience is typically intelligent and well
> > prepared and thus any introductory material should be very brief (less
> > than five minutes). There will be four or more long talks happening
> > simultaneously (in separate rooms, of course)."
> >
> > I couldn't see any submissions by others
> > (http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/php/search-specific.php?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=&track_id=0&content=harmony)
> >
> > on the subject. Short talks are only 5 minutes long, and won't be that
> > good for advertising Harmony :-)
> >
> > I'll be at EclipseCon, and I'd be happy to present a short talk on
> > Harmony, but I think that it would be better for someone more core to
> > present a long talk, like Tim did for EclipseCon 2006.
> > (http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=531)
> >
> > Any takers?
> >
> > Alex.
> >
>
> --
>
> Tim Ellison (t.p.ellison@gmail.com)
> IBM Java technology centre, UK.
>

Re: EclipseCon 2007

Posted by Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com>.
I was kinda hoping that somebody else would step up and register a talk,
so people don't get bored of the same old faces at these things :-) ,
but given nobody did I've put in for an updated version of last year's
talk so we can show the fantastic progress that _you_ all have made.

Now go and vote for it here ;-)

  http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3768

Regards,
Tim

Alex Blewitt wrote:
> Is anyone going to be presenting a talk on Harmony at EclipseCon 2007
> next year (March)? The 'deadline' for submissions for long talks (1hr)
> is 1st December.
> 
> "A Long talk is one hour (or slightly less) presentation that goes
> into detail on a topic. A good talk requires preparation and a good
> pace; the EclipseCon audience is typically intelligent and well
> prepared and thus any introductory material should be very brief (less
> than five minutes). There will be four or more long talks happening
> simultaneously (in separate rooms, of course)."
> 
> I couldn't see any submissions by others
> (http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/php/search-specific.php?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=&track_id=0&content=harmony)
> 
> on the subject. Short talks are only 5 minutes long, and won't be that
> good for advertising Harmony :-)
> 
> I'll be at EclipseCon, and I'd be happy to present a short talk on
> Harmony, but I think that it would be better for someone more core to
> present a long talk, like Tim did for EclipseCon 2006.
> (http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=531)
> 
> Any takers?
> 
> Alex.
> 

-- 

Tim Ellison (t.p.ellison@gmail.com)
IBM Java technology centre, UK.

Re: EclipseCon 2007

Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@pobox.com>.

Jin Mingjian wrote:
> geir:
> 
> The Harmony will be retargeted to certified JDK 6 or higher? 

Yes.  The suggested scheme is :

1) Java SE 5 in mid-year 2007

2) Java SE 6 end of 2007

3) Java SE 7 whenever Sun does Java SE 7

I'll add this to the roadmap so people don't wonder.

> Do you
> have more plan after "Q2 2007 : Apache Harmony SE 5 JDK and JRE
> released"? I don't think it is a good idea to go behind Sun. 

We have to.  When we started this, there was no option other than Java 
SE 5.  So we'll finish that, and use it as the platform to build Java SE 6.

> Harmony
> may do many enhancement in other aspects. But some one may say you are
> doing "fork"....

We're not forking Java - we're doing compatible implementations.

geir


Re: EclipseCon 2007

Posted by Jin Mingjian <ji...@gmail.com>.
geir:

The Harmony will be retargeted to certified JDK 6 or higher? Do you
have more plan after "Q2 2007 : Apache Harmony SE 5 JDK and JRE
released"? I don't think it is a good idea to go behind Sun. Harmony
may do many enhancement in other aspects. But some one may say you are
doing "fork"....

Jin

Re: EclipseCon 2007

Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@pobox.com>.

Alex Blewitt wrote:
> I've had a couple of people comment that they'd be interested in a
> Harmony+Eclipse presentation at EclipseCon next year (March). It would
> also be a good spot to remind people that Harmony is still going
> strong and isn't affected by OpenJDK.

I'm assuming that a Harmony 1.0 release of certified JDK 5 will also 
remind them :)

geir


Re: Re: EclipseCon 2007

Posted by Alex Blewitt <al...@gmail.com>.
Yes, long talks get a free pass to EclipseCon:

http://www.eclipsecon.org/2007/index.php?page=registration/

There's instructions on how to propose a talk here:

http://www.eclipsecon.org/2007/index.php?page=submissions/

Alex.

On 24/11/06, Jin Mingjian <ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Harmony should make a long talk at EclipseCon 2007. Harmony now has
> become a top-level project of the ASF. This is good chance to
> advertise!
> And the register fee is free if the long talk is accepted as for my
> hearing^_^(right?^_^)
>

Re: EclipseCon 2007

Posted by Jin Mingjian <ji...@gmail.com>.
Harmony should make a long talk at EclipseCon 2007. Harmony now has
become a top-level project of the ASF. This is good chance to
advertise!
And the register fee is free if the long talk is accepted as for my
hearing^_^(right?^_^)

Re: EclipseCon 2007

Posted by Alex Blewitt <al...@gmail.com>.
I've had a couple of people comment that they'd be interested in a
Harmony+Eclipse presentation at EclipseCon next year (March). It would
also be a good spot to remind people that Harmony is still going
strong and isn't affected by OpenJDK.

http://alblue.blogspot.com/2006/11/eclipse-neither-of-my-tutorial.html

Although I'm going, I'm just a sidelines lurker here and don't think I
can present a talk on Harmony (not the least of which is that I don't
have a Windows laptop to run a demo on; unless it gets ported to Mac
by then :-) Given that the deadline for submitting long talks is
December 1st, if anyone wants to do it then shout out and/or put a
submission in to

http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org

Alex.

On 21/11/06, Alex Blewitt <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is anyone going to be presenting a talk on Harmony at EclipseCon 2007
> next year (March)? The 'deadline' for submissions for long talks (1hr)
> is 1st December.
>
> "A Long talk is one hour (or slightly less) presentation that goes
> into detail on a topic. A good talk requires preparation and a good
> pace; the EclipseCon audience is typically intelligent and well
> prepared and thus any introductory material should be very brief (less
> than five minutes). There will be four or more long talks happening
> simultaneously (in separate rooms, of course)."
>
> I couldn't see any submissions by others
> (http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/php/search-specific.php?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=&track_id=0&content=harmony)
> on the subject. Short talks are only 5 minutes long, and won't be that
> good for advertising Harmony :-)
>
> I'll be at EclipseCon, and I'd be happy to present a short talk on
> Harmony, but I think that it would be better for someone more core to
> present a long talk, like Tim did for EclipseCon 2006.
> (http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=531)
>
> Any takers?
>
> Alex.
>