Relaying Server and sa-learn --spam

[Phibee Network operation Center <no...@phibee.net>]

Hi

i use a Linux Server with Qmail/SpamAssassin 3.0.3/Qmail-Scanner-1.25st ...
this server are the first mx contact, receive the email, scan it for 
AntiSpams and AntiVirus
an sent the email to another qmail server on my network.

On this server, i don't have mailbox ... i want know what is the process for
use sa-learn --spam in this configuration ?

Can i :

1- Create a email on my relay server and send with my mail software (in 
forward, i use thunderbird)
to this mailbox for after start sa-learn ? but in forward, it's not a 
problems ?

or

2- Put into my mail software all spams not detected into a folder, save 
it, sent by ftp to my relay
and after start sa-learn ?

Thanks for your help

 

Re: Relaying Server and sa-learn --spam

["Eric A. Hall" <eh...@ehsco.com>]

Matt Kettler wrote:

> I've never played with thunderbird's forward as a attachment feature, but 
> you might be able to use that. In this situation you'd need to set up a 
> script that strips off the attachment and feeds the attachment to sa-learn.

It creates a message/rfc822 attachment, just like what SA does when it
creates a report for an (attached) message.

Stripping the embedded message out should be relatively straightforward
using some of the mime tools.

-- 
Eric A. Hall                                        http://www.ehsco.com/
Internet Core Protocols          http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/

Re: Relaying Server and sa-learn --spam

[James R <ja...@trusswood.dyndns.org>]

Matt Kettler wrote:
> At 01:01 PM 5/16/2005, James R wrote:
> 
>> Take a look at Thunderbirds redirect plugin. It works well, and only 
>> adds a few lines to the message, along with your mail server's lines. 
>> I have a script that strips those lines off, and the message as 
>> delivered to the client is now what is trained upon.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, it adds Resent-From: and Resent-To... No good.
> 
> 
Quote my response:
"It works well, and only adds a few lines to the message, along with 
your mail server's lines. I have a script that strips those lines off,"

Like I said before, you need to strip that stuff off. I use it here, 
works 100%. But you do need to strip off those Resent-* lines along with 
the new Received lines. I use a VBS for doing this, but I don't see why 
it would be that difficult for someone to do it in perl or bash script.

..I never said it added nothing, I did say that you need to strip that 
off. If you are too lazy to work up a script to do that. Then forget 
about submitting messages to a server via fwd|attach|redirect (pick your 
favorite) from a client machine..

YMMV
-- 
Thanks,
James

Re: Relaying Server and sa-learn --spam

[Matt Kettler <mk...@comcast.net>]

At 01:01 PM 5/16/2005, James R wrote:
>Take a look at Thunderbirds redirect plugin. It works well, and only adds 
>a few lines to the message, along with your mail server's lines. I have a 
>script that strips those lines off, and the message as delivered to the 
>client is now what is trained upon.

Unfortunately, it adds Resent-From: and Resent-To... No good. 

Re: Relaying Server and sa-learn --spam

[James R <ja...@trusswood.dyndns.org>]

Matt Kettler wrote:
> At 08:35 AM 5/16/2005, Phibee Network operation Center wrote:
> 
>> 1- Create a email on my relay server and send with my mail software 
>> (in forward, i use thunderbird)
>> to this mailbox for after start sa-learn ? but in forward, it's not a 
>> problems ?
> 
> 
> You cannot use a normal inline forward. You must preserve the original 
> headers.
> 
> I've never played with thunderbird's forward as a attachment feature, 
> but you might be able to use that. In this situation you'd need to set 
> up a script that strips off the attachment and feeds the attachment to 
> sa-learn.
> 
> 
> 
>> or
>>
>> 2- Put into my mail software all spams not detected into a folder, 
>> save it, sent by ftp to my relay
>> and after start sa-learn ?
> 
> 
> That should work.
> 
> 
> 
> 
Take a look at Thunderbirds redirect plugin. It works well, and only 
adds a few lines to the message, along with your mail server's lines. I 
have a script that strips those lines off, and the message as delivered 
to the client is now what is trained upon.

-- 
Thanks,
James

Re: Relaying Server and sa-learn --spam

[Matt Kettler <mk...@comcast.net>]

At 08:35 AM 5/16/2005, Phibee Network operation Center wrote:
>1- Create a email on my relay server and send with my mail software (in 
>forward, i use thunderbird)
>to this mailbox for after start sa-learn ? but in forward, it's not a 
>problems ?

You cannot use a normal inline forward. You must preserve the original headers.

I've never played with thunderbird's forward as a attachment feature, but 
you might be able to use that. In this situation you'd need to set up a 
script that strips off the attachment and feeds the attachment to sa-learn.



>or
>
>2- Put into my mail software all spams not detected into a folder, save 
>it, sent by ftp to my relay
>and after start sa-learn ?

That should work.