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Problem accessing web site
Dear Sir:
I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/
However, it always respond with:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4.
1/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_install_es.exe/download
Server not found
I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
security system Fortinet we use blocks it. What can I do?
Thank you in advance,
-Pedro Marquez, Prof.
Re: Problem accessing web site
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Pedro Marquez
<pm...@itchihuahua.edu.mx>wrote:
> Dear Sir:
>
> I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
> http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/
>
> However, it always respond with:
>
>
>
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4.
> 1/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_install_es.exe/download
>
> Server not found
>
>
>
> I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
> security system “Fortinet” we use blocks it. What can I do?
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> -Pedro Marquez, Prof.
>
This link works fine for me ... My only suggestion would be to contact
your system admins and/or internet service provider about why they're
preventing downloads from SourceForge.
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"If you stick with a vision, it might not all work,
but some of it will be absolute genius."
-- Kim Cattrall
Re: Problem accessing web site
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Donald Whytock <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>
> > Am 07/04/2013 11:05 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Dave Fisher<da...@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Pedro Marquez wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Sir:
> >>>>
> >>>> I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
> >>>> http://www.openoffice.org/es/**descargar/<
> http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/>
> >>>>
> >>>> However, it always respond with:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
> >>> files/localized/es/3.4<
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4
> >
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>>> 1/Apache_OpenOffice_**incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_**
> >>>> install_es.exe/download
> >>>>
> >>>> Server not found
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
> >>>> security system “Fortinet” we use blocks it. What can I do?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> (1) You can download from here:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/localized/**es/3.4.1/
> <http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/>
> >>>
> >>> But you don't get the mirror system offered by sourceforge.net to our
> >>> project (and many other non-Apache.)
> >>>
> >>> (2) Ask Fortinet or your admin to whitelist sourceforge.net.
> >>>
> >>> ----
> >>>
> >>> Marcus/Kay - Have we thought more about offering downloads from the
> >>> Apache
> >>> Mirror system for these exceptional cases?
> >>>
> >>
> > No, up to today there were really just very few complains about downloads
> > that do not work due to network restrictions of companies or ISPs.
> >
> > But ...
> >
> >
> > Well, we can certainly think about it now. Marcus is really the lead in
> >> this. Maybe it would be as simple as changing the description of the
> >> alternate link from:
> >>
> >> *Get all platforms, languages, language packs*
> >>
> >> to
> >>
> >> *Problems downloading? Get all platforms, languages, language packs.*
> >>
> >>
> >> and offer
> >>
> >> http://www.apache.org/dist<htt**p://www.apache.org/dist/**
> >> incubator/ooo/files/localized/**es/3.4.1/<
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/>
> >> >
> >>
> >> as another alternative...somewhere
> >>
> >
> > ... yes, somewhere else is good because the green box is already full
> > enough of additional links, of course IMHO. :-)
> >
> > I could think of a section on the "other.html" webpage:
> >
> > - Another entry in the TOC
> > - Some text and link to the Apache server below the tables
> > - Additionally a link on the main download webpage,
> > in link bar on the right
>
I would definitely put a section in "other.html" rather than trying to add
more to the green DL box. Hopefully this kind of situation won't happen
often.
> >
> >
> > It's good that you sent this. I for one had forgotten that we need to
> >> change this link off "incubator" for 4.0. It needs to be added to our
> 4.0
> >> tasks.
> >>
> >
> > Too late ;-) , it's already gone as we can see with the current snapshot
> > builds.
>
ah! OK, I hadn't checked lately.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> >
> >
> The set of Apache mirrors offers different domains and domain types, some
> of which might be more easily reached through restrictive firewalls. At my
> company I'm able to download from SourceForge but some other
> open/public/shareware/freeware sites are blocked. Plus, some businesses
> are blocked but university domains are generally reachable. So, yes,
> getting on the Apache mirrors might make AOO more accessible for
> downloading.
>
> Don
>
I think just providing the "standard" Apache DL page options is good enough
for these cases, which hopefully are few. If one mirrror doesn't work, they
can try another.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"If you stick with a vision, it might not all work,
but some of it will be absolute genius."
-- Kim Cattrall
Re: Problem accessing web site
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 07/21/2013 04:20 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 07/05/2013 04:28 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock:
>>>>
>>>> getting on the Apache mirrors might make AOO more accessible for
>>>> downloading.
>>>
>>>
>>> Finally, I've added some hints:
>>> New link entry in the nav bar on the right side:
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
>>> New TOC entry and text section:
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other.html
>>
>>
>> Don't the Apache mirrors only contain checksums? Out of the 5 links offered
>> for Italy at
>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/openoffice/
>> 3 have no "openoffice" content at all (404), 2 only have some sha256
>> checksums, and this may be due to propagation.
>>
>> But also the "master"
>> http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries/it/
>> contains just the checksums, not the actual files.
>>
>
> That's what was discussed with Infra. apache.org/dist would contain
> source distribution, KEYS and MD5/SHA256/ASC for all files, including
> for the binaries. But it would not contain the binaries.
Ah, right. It's the externaldist directory:
http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/externaldist/openoffice/
However, the closer.cgi doesn't work with this and I don't know how to
extend this. Does someone else?
Marcus
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Re: Problem accessing web site
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>> Am 07/05/2013 04:28 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock:
>>>
>>> getting on the Apache mirrors might make AOO more accessible for
>>> downloading.
>>
>>
>> Finally, I've added some hints:
>> New link entry in the nav bar on the right side:
>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
>> New TOC entry and text section:
>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other.html
>
>
> Don't the Apache mirrors only contain checksums? Out of the 5 links offered
> for Italy at
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/openoffice/
> 3 have no "openoffice" content at all (404), 2 only have some sha256
> checksums, and this may be due to propagation.
>
> But also the "master"
> http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries/it/
> contains just the checksums, not the actual files.
>
That's what was discussed with Infra. apache.org/dist would contain
source distribution, KEYS and MD5/SHA256/ASC for all files, including
for the binaries. But it would not contain the binaries.
-Rob
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
>
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Re: Problem accessing web site
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 07/05/2013 04:28 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock:
>> getting on the Apache mirrors might make AOO more accessible for
>> downloading.
>
> Finally, I've added some hints:
> New link entry in the nav bar on the right side:
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
> New TOC entry and text section:
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other.html
Don't the Apache mirrors only contain checksums? Out of the 5 links
offered for Italy at
http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/openoffice/
3 have no "openoffice" content at all (404), 2 only have some sha256
checksums, and this may be due to propagation.
But also the "master"
http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries/it/
contains just the checksums, not the actual files.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Problem accessing web site
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 07/05/2013 04:28 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock:
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 07/04/2013 11:05 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Dave Fisher<da...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Pedro Marquez wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Sir:
>>>>>
>>>>> I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/es/**descargar/<http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/>
>>>>>
>>>>> However, it always respond with:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
>>>> files/localized/es/3.4<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>> 1/Apache_OpenOffice_**incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_**
>>>>> install_es.exe/download
>>>>>
>>>>> Server not found
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
>>>>> security system “Fortinet” we use blocks it. What can I do?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (1) You can download from here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/localized/**es/3.4.1/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/>
>>>>
>>>> But you don't get the mirror system offered by sourceforge.net to our
>>>> project (and many other non-Apache.)
>>>>
>>>> (2) Ask Fortinet or your admin to whitelist sourceforge.net.
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>> Marcus/Kay - Have we thought more about offering downloads from the
>>>> Apache
>>>> Mirror system for these exceptional cases?
>>>>
>>>
>> No, up to today there were really just very few complains about downloads
>> that do not work due to network restrictions of companies or ISPs.
>>
>> But ...
>>
>>
>> Well, we can certainly think about it now. Marcus is really the lead in
>>> this. Maybe it would be as simple as changing the description of the
>>> alternate link from:
>>>
>>> *Get all platforms, languages, language packs*
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>> *Problems downloading? Get all platforms, languages, language packs.*
>>>
>>>
>>> and offer
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/dist<htt**p://www.apache.org/dist/**
>>> incubator/ooo/files/localized/**es/3.4.1/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/>
>>>>
>>>
>>> as another alternative...somewhere
>>>
>>
>> ... yes, somewhere else is good because the green box is already full
>> enough of additional links, of course IMHO. :-)
>>
>> I could think of a section on the "other.html" webpage:
>>
>> - Another entry in the TOC
>> - Some text and link to the Apache server below the tables
>> - Additionally a link on the main download webpage,
>> in link bar on the right
>>
>>
>> It's good that you sent this. I for one had forgotten that we need to
>>> change this link off "incubator" for 4.0. It needs to be added to our 4.0
>>> tasks.
>>>
>>
>> Too late ;-) , it's already gone as we can see with the current snapshot
>> builds.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
> The set of Apache mirrors offers different domains and domain types, some
> of which might be more easily reached through restrictive firewalls. At my
> company I'm able to download from SourceForge but some other
> open/public/shareware/freeware sites are blocked. Plus, some businesses
> are blocked but university domains are generally reachable. So, yes,
> getting on the Apache mirrors might make AOO more accessible for
> downloading.
Finally, I've added some hints:
New link entry in the nav bar on the right side:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
New TOC entry and text section:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other.html
If you see improvements just tell me.
Marcus
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Re: Problem accessing web site
Posted by Donald Whytock <dw...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 07/04/2013 11:05 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Dave Fisher<da...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Pedro Marquez wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Sir:
>>>>
>>>> I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/es/**descargar/<http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/>
>>>>
>>>> However, it always respond with:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
>>> files/localized/es/3.4<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4>
>>> .
>>>
>>>> 1/Apache_OpenOffice_**incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_**
>>>> install_es.exe/download
>>>>
>>>> Server not found
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
>>>> security system “Fortinet” we use blocks it. What can I do?
>>>>
>>>
>>> (1) You can download from here:
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/localized/**es/3.4.1/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/>
>>>
>>> But you don't get the mirror system offered by sourceforge.net to our
>>> project (and many other non-Apache.)
>>>
>>> (2) Ask Fortinet or your admin to whitelist sourceforge.net.
>>>
>>> ----
>>>
>>> Marcus/Kay - Have we thought more about offering downloads from the
>>> Apache
>>> Mirror system for these exceptional cases?
>>>
>>
> No, up to today there were really just very few complains about downloads
> that do not work due to network restrictions of companies or ISPs.
>
> But ...
>
>
> Well, we can certainly think about it now. Marcus is really the lead in
>> this. Maybe it would be as simple as changing the description of the
>> alternate link from:
>>
>> *Get all platforms, languages, language packs*
>>
>> to
>>
>> *Problems downloading? Get all platforms, languages, language packs.*
>>
>>
>> and offer
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dist<htt**p://www.apache.org/dist/**
>> incubator/ooo/files/localized/**es/3.4.1/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/>
>> >
>>
>> as another alternative...somewhere
>>
>
> ... yes, somewhere else is good because the green box is already full
> enough of additional links, of course IMHO. :-)
>
> I could think of a section on the "other.html" webpage:
>
> - Another entry in the TOC
> - Some text and link to the Apache server below the tables
> - Additionally a link on the main download webpage,
> in link bar on the right
>
>
> It's good that you sent this. I for one had forgotten that we need to
>> change this link off "incubator" for 4.0. It needs to be added to our 4.0
>> tasks.
>>
>
> Too late ;-) , it's already gone as we can see with the current snapshot
> builds.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
The set of Apache mirrors offers different domains and domain types, some
of which might be more easily reached through restrictive firewalls. At my
company I'm able to download from SourceForge but some other
open/public/shareware/freeware sites are blocked. Plus, some businesses
are blocked but university domains are generally reachable. So, yes,
getting on the Apache mirrors might make AOO more accessible for
downloading.
Don
Re: Problem accessing web site
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 07/04/2013 11:05 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Dave Fisher<da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Pedro Marquez wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Sir:
>>>
>>> I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/
>>>
>>> However, it always respond with:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4
>> .
>>> 1/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_install_es.exe/download
>>>
>>> Server not found
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
>>> security system “Fortinet” we use blocks it. What can I do?
>>
>> (1) You can download from here:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/
>>
>> But you don't get the mirror system offered by sourceforge.net to our
>> project (and many other non-Apache.)
>>
>> (2) Ask Fortinet or your admin to whitelist sourceforge.net.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Marcus/Kay - Have we thought more about offering downloads from the Apache
>> Mirror system for these exceptional cases?
No, up to today there were really just very few complains about
downloads that do not work due to network restrictions of companies or ISPs.
But ...
> Well, we can certainly think about it now. Marcus is really the lead in
> this. Maybe it would be as simple as changing the description of the
> alternate link from:
>
> *Get all platforms, languages, language packs*
>
> to
>
> *Problems downloading? Get all platforms, languages, language packs.*
>
>
> and offer
>
> http://www.apache.org/dist<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/>
>
> as another alternative...somewhere
... yes, somewhere else is good because the green box is already full
enough of additional links, of course IMHO. :-)
I could think of a section on the "other.html" webpage:
- Another entry in the TOC
- Some text and link to the Apache server below the tables
- Additionally a link on the main download webpage,
in link bar on the right
> It's good that you sent this. I for one had forgotten that we need to
> change this link off "incubator" for 4.0. It needs to be added to our 4.0
> tasks.
Too late ;-) , it's already gone as we can see with the current snapshot
builds.
Marcus
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Re: Problem accessing web site
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Pedro Marquez wrote:
>
> > Dear Sir:
> >
> > I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
> > http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/
> >
> > However, it always respond with:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4
> .
> > 1/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_install_es.exe/download
> >
> > Server not found
> >
> >
> >
> > I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
> > security system “Fortinet” we use blocks it. What can I do?
>
> (1) You can download from here:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/
>
> But you don't get the mirror system offered by sourceforge.net to our
> project (and many other non-Apache.)
>
> (2) Ask Fortinet or your admin to whitelist sourceforge.net.
>
> ----
>
> Marcus/Kay - Have we thought more about offering downloads from the Apache
> Mirror system for these exceptional cases?
>
Well, we can certainly think about it now. Marcus is really the lead in
this. Maybe it would be as simple as changing the description of the
alternate link from:
*Get all platforms, languages, language packs*
to
*Problems downloading? Get all platforms, languages, language packs.*
and offer
http://www.apache.org/dist<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/>
as another alternative...somewhere
It's good that you sent this. I for one had forgotten that we need to
change this link off "incubator" for 4.0. It needs to be added to our 4.0
tasks.
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
>
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> >
> > -Pedro Marquez, Prof.
> >
>
>
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Re: Problem accessing web site
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Pedro Marquez wrote:
> Dear Sir:
>
> I´ve been trying to download the OpenOffice software from:
> http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/
>
> However, it always respond with:
>
>
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/es/3.4.
> 1/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_install_es.exe/download
>
> Server not found
>
>
>
> I´ve asked to my systems administrator about, and he tells me that the
> security system “Fortinet” we use blocks it. What can I do?
(1) You can download from here:
http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.1/
But you don't get the mirror system offered by sourceforge.net to our project (and many other non-Apache.)
(2) Ask Fortinet or your admin to whitelist sourceforge.net.
----
Marcus/Kay - Have we thought more about offering downloads from the Apache Mirror system for these exceptional cases?
Regards,
Dave
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> -Pedro Marquez, Prof.
>
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