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Posted to dev@pig.apache.org by Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com> on 2012/03/21 07:22:15 UTC
Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do this via
Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just another
barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter and the
like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the listserv.
Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
Jon
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Please, yes.
Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do this via
> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just another
> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter and the
> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the listserv.
>
> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> Jon
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Prashant Kommireddi <pr...@gmail.com>.
+1 workday
Thanks,
Prashant
On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend?
>
> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>
>> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be moving
>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things).
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra
>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
>>>>
>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do
>>> agree
>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
>>>>
>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the
>>> date?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging
>> patches
>>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus
>> plans
>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage
>>> is
>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the
>>> patch
>>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after
>>> only
>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn
>> patch'
>>> is
>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned
>> support
>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the
>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now.
>> Subversion
>>> is
>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally,
>> for
>>>>> example.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dmitriy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be
>> using...
>>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
>>>>>>> patches?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and
>>> upload
>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with
>>>>>>>> svn,
>>>>>>>> but that is trivial.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <
>>> gdfm@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have
>>> git)
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>> but later.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch
>>> to
>>>>>>>> svn
>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
>>>>>>>> humble
>>>>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvryaboy@gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
>>>>>>>> committed
>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
>>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
>>>>>>>>>> integration.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
>>>>>>>> Works the
>>>>>>>>>> same.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
>>>>>>>> <scott@richrelevance.com
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
>>>>>>>> requires
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>>>>>> does not.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
>>>>>>>> experts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
>>>>>>>> github.
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> entry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for
>> all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
>>>>>>>> urgent
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the
>> process
>>>>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
>>>>>>>>>> jcoveney@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
>>>>>>>> might as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary
>>>>>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer
>> to
>>>>>>>> join
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the
>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
>>>>>>>> <dvryaboy@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the
>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
>>>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>>>>> git?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
>>>>>>>>>> <bi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire
>> discussion
>>>>>>>> tree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
>>>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed.
>> Looking
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
>>>>>>>>>> <gates@hortonworks.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has
>>>>>>>> changed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't
>> care
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you
>> can
>>>>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
>>>>>>>> pig
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously
>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
>>>>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> datasyndrome.com
>>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
I figure we can tackle that on hackday.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 to piggybank on github.
>
> The one tricky part will be setting up the repos, build and artifact
> publishing components in a way that handles dependency management of
> version X of piggybank with version Y of Pig.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Russell Jurney <russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I agree. I think we'll see a massive uptick in contributors to Piggybank
> > if it is on github. I think we can start getting companies like Twitter
> > and LinkedIn to think about contributing to Piggybank instead of rolling
> > their own github repos.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales <
> > gdfm@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > As I said, the integration is still cumbersome.
> > > There are legal issues with not uploading patches to Jira.
> > >
> > > Anyway, +1 for moving Piggybank to git (github could be a good choice
> in
> > > this case).
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > --
> > > Gianmarco
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 06:48, Russell Jurney <russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > No, that is not good :(
> > > >
> > > > Weekday for the hackathon?
> > > >
> > > > Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Russell, you saw that the Cassandra thing still requires people to
> > > > > upload patches to JIRA?
> > > > >
> > > > > D
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Russell Jurney <
> > > russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be
> > > > moving
> > > > >>>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things).
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <
> gates@hortonworks.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Alan.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
> > > > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra
> > > > >>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this,
> > but
> > > do
> > > > >>>>> agree
> > > > >>>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I
> > forgot
> > > > the
> > > > >>>>> date?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <
> > > > scott@richrelevance.com
> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers
> > exchanging
> > > > >>>> patches
> > > > >>>>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support
> > > Linus
> > > > >>>> plans
> > > > >>>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One
> > > > disadvantage
> > > > >>>>> is
> > > > >>>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply
> reading
> > > the
> > > > >>>>> patch
> > > > >>>>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial
> changes
> > > > after
> > > > >>>>> only
> > > > >>>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features.
> > 'svn
> > > > >>>> patch'
> > > > >>>>> is
> > > > >>>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is
> > planned
> > > > >>>> support
> > > > >>>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences
> > between
> > > > the
> > > > >>>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now.
> > > > >>>> Subversion
> > > > >>>>> is
> > > > >>>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working
> > > > locally,
> > > > >>>> for
> > > > >>>>>>> example.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Dmitriy
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
> > > > >>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should
> be
> > > > >>>> using...
> > > > >>>>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing
> > out
> > > > text
> > > > >>>>>>>>> patches?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
> > > > >>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using
> git
> > > and
> > > > >>>>> upload
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked
> > out
> > > > with
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> svn,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> but that is trivial.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <
> > > > >>>>> gdfm@apache.org>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far
> (they
> > > > have
> > > > >>>>> git)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> +1
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but later.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully
> > > > integrated
> > > > >>>>> and
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but
> then
> > > > switch
> > > > >>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> svn
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so
> > bad.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that
> > urgent
> > > > in my
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> humble
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> opinion.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <
> > > > dvryaboy@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch.
> If
> > > we
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> committed
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate
> > > > oversight.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache.
> > > That's
> > > > a
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> github
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs)
> > > > feature.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for
> > review
> > > > prior
> > > > >>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board
> or
> > > Jira
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> integration.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests.
> > > Not
> > > > a
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my
> > patches.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Works the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> same.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> <scott@richrelevance.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to
> > JIRA
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> requires
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull
> > > > request
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> github
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us
> here
> > > are
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> experts.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <
> > > > russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would
> > > > benefit
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull
> > requests
> > > on
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> github.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits.
> > > > Barrier
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> entry
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making
> happy
> > > for
> > > > >>>> all.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there
> > is
> > > an
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> urgent
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> need
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize
> > the
> > > > >>>> process
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and we
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the
> > > first
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> several
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> jcoveney@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to
> > have
> > > > to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> learn
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> one
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source
> projects.
> > > It
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> might as
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the
> > > > primary
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> repo
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> using
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to
> > > > volunteer
> > > > >>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> join
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join
> > the
> > > > >>>> apache
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> <dvryaboy@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to
> do
> > > the
> > > > >>>> work.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real
> > project
> > > > that
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> uses
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> git?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to
> github.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <bi...@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire
> > > > >>>> discussion
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> tree
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some
> > > incubator
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> projects
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell
> Jurney
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now
> allowed.
> > > > >>>> Looking
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <gates@hortonworks.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a
> > > > primary
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If
> > this
> > > > has
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> changed
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I
> > > don't
> > > > >>>> care
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> which
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan
> Coveney
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I
> > think
> > > > you
> > > > >>>> can
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> apply
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git
> the
> > > > first
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> class
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to
> > work
> > > > with
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> pig
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been
> > bandied
> > > > about
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> on
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed
> > > > seriously
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> on the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email
> > > > address.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Please
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney
> > > > russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney
> > > russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney
> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> --
> > > > >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > > >>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > datasyndrome.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>
--
Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>.
+1 to piggybank on github.
The one tricky part will be setting up the repos, build and artifact
publishing components in a way that handles dependency management of
version X of piggybank with version Y of Pig.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I agree. I think we'll see a massive uptick in contributors to Piggybank
> if it is on github. I think we can start getting companies like Twitter
> and LinkedIn to think about contributing to Piggybank instead of rolling
> their own github repos.
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales <
> gdfm@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > As I said, the integration is still cumbersome.
> > There are legal issues with not uploading patches to Jira.
> >
> > Anyway, +1 for moving Piggybank to git (github could be a good choice in
> > this case).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --
> > Gianmarco
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 06:48, Russell Jurney <russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > No, that is not good :(
> > >
> > > Weekday for the hackathon?
> > >
> > > Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > >
> > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Russell, you saw that the Cassandra thing still requires people to
> > > > upload patches to JIRA?
> > > >
> > > > D
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Russell Jurney <
> > russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible.
> > > >>
> > > >> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > > >>
> > > >> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be
> > > moving
> > > >>>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <gates@hortonworks.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Alan.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
> > > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra
> > > >>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this,
> but
> > do
> > > >>>>> agree
> > > >>>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I
> forgot
> > > the
> > > >>>>> date?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <
> > > scott@richrelevance.com
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers
> exchanging
> > > >>>> patches
> > > >>>>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support
> > Linus
> > > >>>> plans
> > > >>>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One
> > > disadvantage
> > > >>>>> is
> > > >>>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading
> > the
> > > >>>>> patch
> > > >>>>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes
> > > after
> > > >>>>> only
> > > >>>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features.
> 'svn
> > > >>>> patch'
> > > >>>>> is
> > > >>>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is
> planned
> > > >>>> support
> > > >>>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences
> between
> > > the
> > > >>>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now.
> > > >>>> Subversion
> > > >>>>> is
> > > >>>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working
> > > locally,
> > > >>>> for
> > > >>>>>>> example.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Dmitriy
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
> > > >>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be
> > > >>>> using...
> > > >>>>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing
> out
> > > text
> > > >>>>>>>>> patches?
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
> > > >>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git
> > and
> > > >>>>> upload
> > > >>>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked
> out
> > > with
> > > >>>>>>>>>> svn,
> > > >>>>>>>>>> but that is trivial.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <
> > > >>>>> gdfm@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they
> > > have
> > > >>>>> git)
> > > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> +1
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> but later.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully
> > > integrated
> > > >>>>> and
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then
> > > switch
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>> svn
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so
> bad.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that
> urgent
> > > in my
> > > >>>>>>>>>> humble
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> opinion.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <
> > > dvryaboy@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If
> > we
> > > >>>>>>>>>> committed
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate
> > > oversight.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache.
> > That's
> > > a
> > > >>>>>>>>>> github
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs)
> > > feature.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for
> review
> > > prior
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or
> > Jira
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> integration.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
> > > >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests.
> > Not
> > > a
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my
> patches.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Works the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> same.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
> > > >>>>>>>>>> <scott@richrelevance.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to
> JIRA
> > > >>>>>>>>>> requires
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull
> > > request
> > > >>>>>>>>>> from
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> github
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here
> > are
> > > >>>>>>>>>> experts.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <
> > > russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would
> > > benefit
> > > >>>>>>>>>> from
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull
> requests
> > on
> > > >>>>>>>>>> github.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits.
> > > Barrier
> > > >>>>>>>>>> of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> entry
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy
> > for
> > > >>>> all.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
> > > >>>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there
> is
> > an
> > > >>>>>>>>>> urgent
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> need
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize
> the
> > > >>>> process
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and we
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the
> > first
> > > >>>>>>>>>> several
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> jcoveney@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to
> have
> > > to
> > > >>>>>>>>>> learn
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> one
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects.
> > It
> > > >>>>>>>>>> might as
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the
> > > primary
> > > >>>>>>>>>> repo
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> using
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to
> > > volunteer
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>> join
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join
> the
> > > >>>> apache
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
> > > >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
> > > >>>>>>>>>> <dvryaboy@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do
> > the
> > > >>>> work.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real
> project
> > > that
> > > >>>>>>>>>> uses
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> git?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <bi...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire
> > > >>>> discussion
> > > >>>>>>>>>> tree
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some
> > incubator
> > > >>>>>>>>>> projects
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed.
> > > >>>> Looking
> > > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <gates@hortonworks.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a
> > > primary
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If
> this
> > > has
> > > >>>>>>>>>> changed
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I
> > don't
> > > >>>> care
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> which
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I
> think
> > > you
> > > >>>> can
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> apply
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the
> > > first
> > > >>>>>>>>>> class
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to
> work
> > > with
> > > >>>>>>>>>> pig
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been
> bandied
> > > about
> > > >>>>>>>>>> on
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed
> > > seriously
> > > >>>>>>>>>> on the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email
> > > address.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Please
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney
> > > russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney
> > russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > >>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > >>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > >>>>
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> datasyndrome.com
>
--
*Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
I agree. I think we'll see a massive uptick in contributors to Piggybank
if it is on github. I think we can start getting companies like Twitter
and LinkedIn to think about contributing to Piggybank instead of rolling
their own github repos.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales <
gdfm@apache.org> wrote:
> As I said, the integration is still cumbersome.
> There are legal issues with not uploading patches to Jira.
>
> Anyway, +1 for moving Piggybank to git (github could be a good choice in
> this case).
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Gianmarco
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 06:48, Russell Jurney <russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > No, that is not good :(
> >
> > Weekday for the hackathon?
> >
> > Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Russell, you saw that the Cassandra thing still requires people to
> > > upload patches to JIRA?
> > >
> > > D
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Russell Jurney <
> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible.
> > >>
> > >> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > >>
> > >> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend?
> > >>>
> > >>> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be
> > moving
> > >>>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Alan.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
> > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra
> > >>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but
> do
> > >>>>> agree
> > >>>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot
> > the
> > >>>>> date?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <
> > scott@richrelevance.com
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging
> > >>>> patches
> > >>>>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support
> Linus
> > >>>> plans
> > >>>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One
> > disadvantage
> > >>>>> is
> > >>>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading
> the
> > >>>>> patch
> > >>>>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes
> > after
> > >>>>> only
> > >>>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn
> > >>>> patch'
> > >>>>> is
> > >>>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned
> > >>>> support
> > >>>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between
> > the
> > >>>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now.
> > >>>> Subversion
> > >>>>> is
> > >>>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working
> > locally,
> > >>>> for
> > >>>>>>> example.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Dmitriy
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
> > >>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be
> > >>>> using...
> > >>>>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out
> > text
> > >>>>>>>>> patches?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
> > >>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git
> and
> > >>>>> upload
> > >>>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out
> > with
> > >>>>>>>>>> svn,
> > >>>>>>>>>> but that is trivial.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <
> > >>>>> gdfm@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they
> > have
> > >>>>> git)
> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>> +1
> > >>>>>>>>>>> but later.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully
> > integrated
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then
> > switch
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>> svn
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent
> > in my
> > >>>>>>>>>> humble
> > >>>>>>>>>>> opinion.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <
> > dvryaboy@gmail.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If
> we
> > >>>>>>>>>> committed
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate
> > oversight.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache.
> That's
> > a
> > >>>>>>>>>> github
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs)
> > feature.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review
> > prior
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or
> Jira
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> integration.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
> > >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests.
> Not
> > a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Works the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> same.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
> > >>>>>>>>>> <scott@richrelevance.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
> > >>>>>>>>>> requires
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull
> > request
> > >>>>>>>>>> from
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> github
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here
> are
> > >>>>>>>>>> experts.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <
> > russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would
> > benefit
> > >>>>>>>>>> from
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests
> on
> > >>>>>>>>>> github.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits.
> > Barrier
> > >>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> entry
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy
> for
> > >>>> all.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
> > >>>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is
> an
> > >>>>>>>>>> urgent
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> need
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the
> > >>>> process
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the
> first
> > >>>>>>>>>> several
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> jcoveney@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have
> > to
> > >>>>>>>>>> learn
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> one
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects.
> It
> > >>>>>>>>>> might as
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the
> > primary
> > >>>>>>>>>> repo
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> using
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to
> > volunteer
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>> join
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the
> > >>>> apache
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
> > >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
> > >>>>>>>>>> <dvryaboy@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do
> the
> > >>>> work.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project
> > that
> > >>>>>>>>>> uses
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> git?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <bi...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire
> > >>>> discussion
> > >>>>>>>>>> tree
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some
> incubator
> > >>>>>>>>>> projects
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed.
> > >>>> Looking
> > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <gates@hortonworks.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a
> > primary
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this
> > has
> > >>>>>>>>>> changed
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I
> don't
> > >>>> care
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think
> > you
> > >>>> can
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> apply
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the
> > first
> > >>>>>>>>>> class
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work
> > with
> > >>>>>>>>>> pig
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied
> > about
> > >>>>>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed
> > seriously
> > >>>>>>>>>> on the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email
> > address.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Please
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney
> > russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney
> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>>> datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>
> >
>
--
Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Gianmarco De Francisci Morales <gd...@apache.org>.
As I said, the integration is still cumbersome.
There are legal issues with not uploading patches to Jira.
Anyway, +1 for moving Piggybank to git (github could be a good choice in
this case).
Cheers,
--
Gianmarco
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 06:48, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> No, that is not good :(
>
> Weekday for the hackathon?
>
> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Russell, you saw that the Cassandra thing still requires people to
> > upload patches to JIRA?
> >
> > D
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible.
> >>
> >> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>
> >> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend?
> >>>
> >>> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be
> moving
> >>>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things).
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
> >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra
> >>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do
> >>>>> agree
> >>>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot
> the
> >>>>> date?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <
> scott@richrelevance.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging
> >>>> patches
> >>>>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus
> >>>> plans
> >>>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One
> disadvantage
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the
> >>>>> patch
> >>>>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes
> after
> >>>>> only
> >>>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn
> >>>> patch'
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned
> >>>> support
> >>>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between
> the
> >>>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now.
> >>>> Subversion
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working
> locally,
> >>>> for
> >>>>>>> example.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Dmitriy
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be
> >>>> using...
> >>>>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out
> text
> >>>>>>>>> patches?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
> >>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and
> >>>>> upload
> >>>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
> >>>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out
> with
> >>>>>>>>>> svn,
> >>>>>>>>>> but that is trivial.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <
> >>>>> gdfm@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they
> have
> >>>>> git)
> >>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>> but later.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully
> integrated
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then
> switch
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> svn
> >>>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent
> in my
> >>>>>>>>>> humble
> >>>>>>>>>>> opinion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <
> dvryaboy@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
> >>>>>>>>>> committed
> >>>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate
> oversight.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's
> a
> >>>>>>>>>> github
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs)
> feature.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review
> prior
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
> >>>>>>>>>>>> integration.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not
> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
> >>>>>>>>>> Works the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> same.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
> >>>>>>>>>> <scott@richrelevance.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
> >>>>>>>>>> requires
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull
> request
> >>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>> github
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
> >>>>>>>>>> experts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <
> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would
> benefit
> >>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
> >>>>>>>>>> github.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits.
> Barrier
> >>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> entry
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for
> >>>> all.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
> >>>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
> >>>>>>>>>> urgent
> >>>>>>>>>>>> need
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the
> >>>> process
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
> >>>>>>>>>> several
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> jcoveney@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have
> to
> >>>>>>>>>> learn
> >>>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
> >>>>>>>>>> might as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the
> primary
> >>>>>>>>>> repo
> >>>>>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to
> volunteer
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> join
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the
> >>>> apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
> >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
> >>>>>>>>>> <dvryaboy@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the
> >>>> work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project
> that
> >>>>>>>>>> uses
> >>>>>>>>>>>> git?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <bi...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire
> >>>> discussion
> >>>>>>>>>> tree
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
> >>>>>>>>>> projects
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed.
> >>>> Looking
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <gates@hortonworks.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a
> primary
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this
> has
> >>>>>>>>>> changed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't
> >>>> care
> >>>>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think
> you
> >>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>> apply
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the
> first
> >>>>>>>>>> class
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work
> with
> >>>>>>>>>> pig
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied
> about
> >>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed
> seriously
> >>>>>>>>>> on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email
> address.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney
> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>
>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
No, that is not good :(
Weekday for the hackathon?
Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Russell, you saw that the Cassandra thing still requires people to
> upload patches to JIRA?
>
> D
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible.
>>
>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>
>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend?
>>>
>>> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be moving
>>>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things).
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra
>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do
>>>>> agree
>>>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the
>>>>> date?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging
>>>> patches
>>>>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus
>>>> plans
>>>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the
>>>>> patch
>>>>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after
>>>>> only
>>>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn
>>>> patch'
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned
>>>> support
>>>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the
>>>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now.
>>>> Subversion
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally,
>>>> for
>>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dmitriy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be
>>>> using...
>>>>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
>>>>>>>>> patches?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
>>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and
>>>>> upload
>>>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
>>>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with
>>>>>>>>>> svn,
>>>>>>>>>> but that is trivial.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <
>>>>> gdfm@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have
>>>>> git)
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>> but later.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
>>>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> svn
>>>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
>>>>>>>>>> humble
>>>>>>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvryaboy@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
>>>>>>>>>> committed
>>>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
>>>>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
>>>>>>>>>>>> integration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
>>>>>>>>>> Works the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
>>>>>>>>>> <scott@richrelevance.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
>>>>>>>>>> requires
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
>>>>>>>>>> experts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
>>>>>>>>>> github.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> entry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for
>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
>>>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
>>>>>>>>>> urgent
>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the
>>>> process
>>>>>>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
>>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jcoveney@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
>>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
>>>>>>>>>> might as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary
>>>>>>>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> join
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the
>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
>>>>>>>>>> <dvryaboy@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the
>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
>>>>>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>>>>>>> git?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
>>>>>>>>>>>> <bi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire
>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>> tree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
>>>>>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed.
>>>> Looking
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
>>>>>>>>>>>> <gates@hortonworks.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has
>>>>>>>>>> changed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't
>>>> care
>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you
>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
>>>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
>>>>>>>>>> pig
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously
>>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>.
Russell, you saw that the Cassandra thing still requires people to
upload patches to JIRA?
D
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible.
>
> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend?
>>
>> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be moving
>>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things).
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
>>>>
>>>> Alan.
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra
>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do
>>>> agree
>>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
>>>>>
>>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the
>>>> date?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging
>>> patches
>>>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus
>>> plans
>>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage
>>>> is
>>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the
>>>> patch
>>>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after
>>>> only
>>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn
>>> patch'
>>>> is
>>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned
>>> support
>>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the
>>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now.
>>> Subversion
>>>> is
>>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally,
>>> for
>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dmitriy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be
>>> using...
>>>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
>>>>>>>> patches?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and
>>>> upload
>>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
>>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with
>>>>>>>>> svn,
>>>>>>>>> but that is trivial.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <
>>>> gdfm@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have
>>>> git)
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>> but later.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
>>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> svn
>>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
>>>>>>>>> humble
>>>>>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvryaboy@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
>>>>>>>>> committed
>>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
>>>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
>>>>>>>>>>> integration.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
>>>>>>>>> Works the
>>>>>>>>>>> same.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
>>>>>>>>> <scott@richrelevance.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
>>>>>>>>> requires
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
>>>>>>>>> experts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
>>>>>>>>> github.
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> entry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for
>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
>>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
>>>>>>>>> urgent
>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the
>>> process
>>>>>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
>>>>>>>>>>> jcoveney@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
>>>>>>>>> might as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary
>>>>>>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer
>>> to
>>>>>>>>> join
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the
>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
>>>>>>>>> <dvryaboy@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the
>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
>>>>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>>>>>> git?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
>>>>>>>>>>> <bi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire
>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>> tree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
>>>>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed.
>>> Looking
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
>>>>>>>>>>> <gates@hortonworks.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has
>>>>>>>>> changed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't
>>> care
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you
>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
>>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
>>>>>>>>> pig
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously
>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible.
Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend?
>
> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>
>> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be moving
>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things).
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra
>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
>>>>
>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do
>>> agree
>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
>>>>
>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the
>>> date?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging
>> patches
>>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus
>> plans
>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage
>>> is
>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the
>>> patch
>>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after
>>> only
>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn
>> patch'
>>> is
>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned
>> support
>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the
>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now.
>> Subversion
>>> is
>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally,
>> for
>>>>> example.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dmitriy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be
>> using...
>>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
>>>>>>> patches?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and
>>> upload
>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with
>>>>>>>> svn,
>>>>>>>> but that is trivial.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <
>>> gdfm@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have
>>> git)
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>> but later.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch
>>> to
>>>>>>>> svn
>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
>>>>>>>> humble
>>>>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvryaboy@gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
>>>>>>>> committed
>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
>>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
>>>>>>>>>> integration.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
>>>>>>>> Works the
>>>>>>>>>> same.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
>>>>>>>> <scott@richrelevance.com
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
>>>>>>>> requires
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>>>>>> does not.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
>>>>>>>> experts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
>>>>>>>> github.
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> entry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for
>> all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
>>>>>>>> urgent
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the
>> process
>>>>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
>>>>>>>>>> jcoveney@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
>>>>>>>> might as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary
>>>>>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer
>> to
>>>>>>>> join
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the
>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
>>>>>>>> <dvryaboy@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the
>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
>>>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>>>>> git?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
>>>>>>>>>> <bi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire
>> discussion
>>>>>>>> tree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
>>>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed.
>> Looking
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
>>>>>>>>>> <gates@hortonworks.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has
>>>>>>>> changed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't
>> care
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you
>> can
>>>>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
>>>>>>>> pig
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously
>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
>>>>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> datasyndrome.com
>>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>.
Do people prefer a workday or a weekend?
2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be moving
> piggybank to github (and other awesome things).
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
> > Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
> >
> > > Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
> > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
> > > https://github.com/apache/cassandra
> > > http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
> > >
> > > I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do
> > agree
> > > that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
> > >
> > > We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the
> > date?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging
> patches
> > >> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus
> plans
> > >> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage
> > is
> > >> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the
> > patch
> > >> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after
> > only
> > >> glancing at the text of the patch.
> > >>
> > >> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn
> patch'
> > is
> > >> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned
> support
> > >> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the
> > >> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now.
> Subversion
> > is
> > >> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally,
> for
> > >> example.
> > >>
> > >> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
> > >>>
> > >>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dmitriy
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
> > >>> <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be
> using...
> > >>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
> > >>>> patches?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
> > >>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and
> > upload
> > >>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
> > >>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with
> > >>>>> svn,
> > >>>>> but that is trivial.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <
> > gdfm@apache.org>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have
> > git)
> > >>>>> is
> > >>>>>> +1
> > >>>>>> but later.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated
> > and
> > >>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
> > >>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch
> > to
> > >>>>> svn
> > >>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
> > >>>>> humble
> > >>>>>> opinion.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Gianmarco
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvryaboy@gmail.com
> >
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
> > >>>>> committed
> > >>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
> > >>>>> github
> > >>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior
> > to
> > >>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
> > >>>>>>> integration.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
> > >>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
> > >>>>>>> problem.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
> > >>>>> Works the
> > >>>>>>> same.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
> > >>>>> <scott@richrelevance.com
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
> > >>>>> requires
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request
> > >>>>> from
> > >>>>>>> github
> > >>>>>>>>> does not.
> > >>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
> > >>>>> experts.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit
> > >>>>> from
> > >>>>>>>>>> switching
> > >>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
> > >>>>> github.
> > >>>>>>> Maybe
> > >>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>>>> entry
> > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for
> all.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
> > >>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
> > >>>>> urgent
> > >>>>>>> need
> > >>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the
> process
> > >>>>>>> and we
> > >>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
> > >>>>> several
> > >>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> > >>>>>>> jcoveney@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
> > >>>>> learn
> > >>>>>>> one
> > >>>>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
> > >>>>> might as
> > >>>>>>>>>>> well be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary
> > >>>>> repo
> > >>>>>>> using
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer
> to
> > >>>>> join
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the
> apache
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
> > >>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
> > >>>>> <dvryaboy@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the
> work.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> > >>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
> > >>>>> uses
> > >>>>>>> git?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
> > >>>>>>> <bi...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire
> discussion
> > >>>>> tree
> > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
> > >>>>> projects
> > >>>>>>>>>>> were
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed.
> Looking
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
> > >>>>>>> <gates@hortonworks.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
> > >>>>>>>>>>> repository.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has
> > >>>>> changed
> > >>>>>>>>>>> (or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't
> care
> > >>>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>> use.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you
> can
> > >>>>>>> apply
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> do
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
> > >>>>> class
> > >>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
> > >>>>> pig
> > >>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>> just
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about
> > >>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously
> > >>>>> on the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
> > >>>>>>> Please
> > >>>>>>>>>>> email
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>>> datasyndrome.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > datasyndrome.com
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> datasyndrome.com
>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be moving
piggybank to github (and other awesome things).
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>
> > Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
> > https://github.com/apache/cassandra
> > http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
> >
> > I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do
> agree
> > that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
> >
> > We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the
> date?
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging patches
> >> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus plans
> >> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage
> is
> >> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the
> patch
> >> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after
> only
> >> glancing at the text of the patch.
> >>
> >> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn patch'
> is
> >> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned support
> >> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the
> >> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now. Subversion
> is
> >> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally, for
> >> example.
> >>
> >> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
> >>>
> >>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
> >>>
> >>> Dmitriy
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>> <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be using...
> >>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
> >>>> patches?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
> >>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and
> upload
> >>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
> >>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with
> >>>>> svn,
> >>>>> but that is trivial.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <
> gdfm@apache.org>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have
> git)
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>> +1
> >>>>>> but later.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated
> and
> >>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
> >>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch
> to
> >>>>> svn
> >>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
> >>>>> humble
> >>>>>> opinion.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Gianmarco
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
> >>>>> committed
> >>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
> >>>>> github
> >>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior
> to
> >>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
> >>>>>>> integration.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
> >>>>>>> problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
> >>>>> Works the
> >>>>>>> same.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
> >>>>> <scott@richrelevance.com
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
> >>>>> requires
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request
> >>>>> from
> >>>>>>> github
> >>>>>>>>> does not.
> >>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
> >>>>> experts.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit
> >>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>> switching
> >>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
> >>>>> github.
> >>>>>>> Maybe
> >>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>>> entry
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
> >>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
> >>>>> urgent
> >>>>>>> need
> >>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process
> >>>>>>> and we
> >>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
> >>>>> several
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> >>>>>>> jcoveney@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
> >>>>> learn
> >>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
> >>>>> might as
> >>>>>>>>>>> well be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary
> >>>>> repo
> >>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to
> >>>>> join
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
> >>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
> >>>>> <dvryaboy@gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> >>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
> >>>>> uses
> >>>>>>> git?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
> >>>>>>> <bi...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion
> >>>>> tree
> >>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
> >>>>> projects
> >>>>>>>>>>> were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
> >>>>>>> <gates@hortonworks.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
> >>>>>>>>>>> repository.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has
> >>>>> changed
> >>>>>>>>>>> (or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
> >>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>> use.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can
> >>>>>>> apply
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
> >>>>> class
> >>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
> >>>>> pig
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously
> >>>>> on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
> >>>>>>> Please
> >>>>>>>>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> datasyndrome.com
>
>
--
Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>.
Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
Alan.
On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra
> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
>
> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do agree
> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
>
> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the date?
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>
>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging patches
>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus plans
>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage is
>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the patch
>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after only
>> glancing at the text of the patch.
>>
>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn patch' is
>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned support
>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the
>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now. Subversion is
>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally, for
>> example.
>>
>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
>>>
>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
>>>
>>> Dmitriy
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
>>> <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be using...
>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
>>>> patches?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and upload
>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
>>>>>
>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with
>>>>> svn,
>>>>> but that is trivial.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <gd...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git)
>>>>> is
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>> but later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated and
>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to
>>>>> svn
>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
>>>>> humble
>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gianmarco
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
>>>>> committed
>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
>>>>> github
>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior to
>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
>>>>>>> integration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
>>>>> Works the
>>>>>>> same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
>>>>> <scott@richrelevance.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
>>>>> requires
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request
>>>>> from
>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>>> does not.
>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
>>>>> experts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit
>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> switching
>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
>>>>> github.
>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier
>>>>> of
>>>>>>> entry
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
>>>>> urgent
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process
>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
>>>>> several
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
>>>>>>> jcoveney@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
>>>>> learn
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
>>>>> might as
>>>>>>>>>>> well be
>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary
>>>>> repo
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to
>>>>> join
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
>>>>> <dvryaboy@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
>>>>> uses
>>>>>>> git?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
>>>>>>> <bi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion
>>>>> tree
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
>>>>> projects
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
>>>>>>> <gates@hortonworks.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has
>>>>> changed
>>>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can
>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
>>>>> class
>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
>>>>> pig
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about
>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously
>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Oh, and https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-3676
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra
> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
>
> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do agree
> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
>
> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the
> date?
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>
>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging patches
>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus plans
>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage is
>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the patch
>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after only
>> glancing at the text of the patch.
>>
>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn patch' is
>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned support
>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the
>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now. Subversion is
>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally, for
>> example.
>>
>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
>> >
>> >I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
>> >
>> >Dmitriy
>> >
>> >On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
>> ><ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be using...
>> >> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
>> >> patches?
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
>> >><sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and
>> upload
>> >>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
>> >>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
>> >>>
>> >>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with
>> >>>svn,
>> >>> but that is trivial.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <gdfm@apache.org
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git)
>> >>>is
>> >>> >+1
>> >>> >but later.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated
>> and
>> >>> >standardized like the one with svn.
>> >>> >I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to
>> >>>svn
>> >>> >to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
>> >>>humble
>> >>> >opinion.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Cheers,
>> >>> >--
>> >>> >Gianmarco
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
>> >>>wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
>> >>>committed
>> >>> >> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
>> >>>github
>> >>> >> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior
>> to
>> >>> >> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
>> >>> >>integration.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
>> >>><ru...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
>> >>> >>problem.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
>> >>>Works the
>> >>> >> same.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
>> >>><scott@richrelevance.com
>> >>> >> >wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
>> >>>requires
>> >>> >>the
>> >>> >> >> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request
>> >>>from
>> >>> >> github
>> >>> >> >> does not.
>> >>> >> >> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
>> >>>experts.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit
>> >>>from
>> >>> >> >>> switching
>> >>> >> >>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
>> >>>github.
>> >>> >> Maybe
>> >>> >> >>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier
>> >>>of
>> >>> >>entry
>> >>> >> >>> for
>> >>> >> >>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for
>> all.
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
>> >>><da...@hortonworks.com>
>> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
>> >>>urgent
>> >>> >>need
>> >>> >> >>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the
>> process
>> >>> >>and we
>> >>> >> >>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
>> >>>several
>> >>> >>to
>> >>> >> >>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> Daniel
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
>> >>> >> jcoveney@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
>> >>>learn
>> >>> >>one
>> >>> >> >>>> or
>> >>> >> >>>> the
>> >>> >> >>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
>> >>>might as
>> >>> >> >>>> well be
>> >>> >> >>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
>> >>> >> >>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>> >>> >> >>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary
>> >>>repo
>> >>> >>using
>> >>> >> >>>> the
>> >>> >> >>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to
>> >>>join
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> >>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
>> >>> >> >>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
>> >>><ru...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>> What's the work?
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
>> >>><dvryaboy@gmail.com
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the
>> work.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>> >>> >> >>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
>> >>>uses
>> >>> >>git?
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
>> >>> >><bi...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion
>> >>>tree
>> >>> >> >>>> that
>> >>> >> >>>> we
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> had
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
>> >>>projects
>> >>> >> >>>> were
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> using
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> git.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking
>> >>>for
>> >>> >>the
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
>> >>> >><gates@hortonworks.com
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
>> >>> >> >>>> repository.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> You
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has
>> >>>changed
>> >>> >> >>>> (or
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> when it
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
>> >>> >>which
>> >>> >> >>>> we
>> >>> >> >>>> use.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you
>> can
>> >>> >>apply
>> >>> >> >>>> to
>> >>> >> >>>> do
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> via
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
>> >>>class
>> >>> >> >>>> citizen of
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
>> >>>pig
>> >>> >>is
>> >>> >> >>>> just
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about
>> >>>on
>> >>> >> >>>> Twitter
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously
>> >>>on the
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
>> >>> >>Please
>> >>> >> >>>> email
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> me at
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> --
>> >>> >> >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >>> >> >>> datasyndrome.com
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > --
>> >>> >> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >>> >> datasyndrome.com
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >>datasyndrome.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.
> com
>
--
Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
https://github.com/apache/cassandra
http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do agree
that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the date?
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging patches
> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus plans
> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage is
> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the patch
> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after only
> glancing at the text of the patch.
>
> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn patch' is
> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned support
> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the
> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now. Subversion is
> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally, for
> example.
>
> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
> >
> >I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
> >
> >Dmitriy
> >
> >On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
> ><ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be using...
> >> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
> >> patches?
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
> >><sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and upload
> >>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
> >>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
> >>>
> >>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with
> >>>svn,
> >>> but that is trivial.
> >>>
> >>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <gd...@apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git)
> >>>is
> >>> >+1
> >>> >but later.
> >>> >
> >>> >The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated and
> >>> >standardized like the one with svn.
> >>> >I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to
> >>>svn
> >>> >to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
> >>> >
> >>> >Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
> >>>humble
> >>> >opinion.
> >>> >
> >>> >Cheers,
> >>> >--
> >>> >Gianmarco
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
> >>>committed
> >>> >> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
> >>>github
> >>> >> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior to
> >>> >> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
> >>> >>integration.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>><ru...@gmail.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
> >>> >>problem.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
> >>>Works the
> >>> >> same.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
> >>><scott@richrelevance.com
> >>> >> >wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
> >>>requires
> >>> >>the
> >>> >> >> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request
> >>>from
> >>> >> github
> >>> >> >> does not.
> >>> >> >> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
> >>>experts.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>> >>wrote:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit
> >>>from
> >>> >> >>> switching
> >>> >> >>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
> >>>github.
> >>> >> Maybe
> >>> >> >>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier
> >>>of
> >>> >>entry
> >>> >> >>> for
> >>> >> >>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
> >>><da...@hortonworks.com>
> >>> >> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
> >>>urgent
> >>> >>need
> >>> >> >>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process
> >>> >>and we
> >>> >> >>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
> >>>several
> >>> >>to
> >>> >> >>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>> Daniel
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> >>> >> jcoveney@gmail.com>
> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
> >>>learn
> >>> >>one
> >>> >> >>>> or
> >>> >> >>>> the
> >>> >> >>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
> >>>might as
> >>> >> >>>> well be
> >>> >> >>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> >>> >> >>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> >>> >> >>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary
> >>>repo
> >>> >>using
> >>> >> >>>> the
> >>> >> >>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to
> >>>join
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> >>> >> >>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
> >>><ru...@gmail.com>
> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>> What's the work?
> >>> >> >>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>> >> >>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
> >>><dvryaboy@gmail.com
> >>> >
> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> >>> >> >>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
> >>>uses
> >>> >>git?
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
> >>> >><bi...@gmail.com>
> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion
> >>>tree
> >>> >> >>>> that
> >>> >> >>>> we
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> had
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
> >>>projects
> >>> >> >>>> were
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> using
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> git.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking
> >>>for
> >>> >>the
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
> >>> >><gates@hortonworks.com
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
> >>> >> >>>> repository.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> You
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has
> >>>changed
> >>> >> >>>> (or
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> when it
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
> >>> >>which
> >>> >> >>>> we
> >>> >> >>>> use.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can
> >>> >>apply
> >>> >> >>>> to
> >>> >> >>>> do
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> via
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
> >>>class
> >>> >> >>>> citizen of
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
> >>>pig
> >>> >>is
> >>> >> >>>> just
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about
> >>>on
> >>> >> >>>> Twitter
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously
> >>>on the
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
> >>> >>Please
> >>> >> >>>> email
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> me at
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>> --
> >>> >> >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>> >> >>> datasyndrome.com
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > --
> >>> >> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>> >> datasyndrome.com
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>datasyndrome.com
>
>
--
Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>.
Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging patches
as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus plans
or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage is
that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the patch
itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after only
glancing at the text of the patch.
SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn patch' is
now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned support
for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the
tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now. Subversion is
planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally, for
example.
On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
>
>I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
>
>Dmitriy
>
>On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
><ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be using...
>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
>> patches?
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
>><sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and upload
>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
>>>
>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with
>>>svn,
>>> but that is trivial.
>>>
>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <gd...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git)
>>>is
>>> >+1
>>> >but later.
>>> >
>>> >The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated and
>>> >standardized like the one with svn.
>>> >I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to
>>>svn
>>> >to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
>>> >
>>> >Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
>>>humble
>>> >opinion.
>>> >
>>> >Cheers,
>>> >--
>>> >Gianmarco
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
>>>committed
>>> >> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
>>> >>
>>> >> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
>>>github
>>> >> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior to
>>> >> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
>>> >>integration.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
>>><ru...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
>>> >>problem.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
>>>Works the
>>> >> same.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
>>><scott@richrelevance.com
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
>>>requires
>>> >>the
>>> >> >> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request
>>>from
>>> >> github
>>> >> >> does not.
>>> >> >> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
>>>experts.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
>>> >>wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit
>>>from
>>> >> >>> switching
>>> >> >>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
>>>github.
>>> >> Maybe
>>> >> >>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier
>>>of
>>> >>entry
>>> >> >>> for
>>> >> >>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
>>><da...@hortonworks.com>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
>>>urgent
>>> >>need
>>> >> >>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process
>>> >>and we
>>> >> >>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
>>>several
>>> >>to
>>> >> >>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Daniel
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
>>> >> jcoveney@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
>>>learn
>>> >>one
>>> >> >>>> or
>>> >> >>>> the
>>> >> >>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
>>>might as
>>> >> >>>> well be
>>> >> >>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary
>>>repo
>>> >>using
>>> >> >>>> the
>>> >> >>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to
>>>join
>>> >> the
>>> >> >>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
>>> >> >>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
>>><ru...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> What's the work?
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
>>><dvryaboy@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>>> >> >>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
>>>uses
>>> >>git?
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
>>> >><bi...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion
>>>tree
>>> >> >>>> that
>>> >> >>>> we
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> had
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
>>>projects
>>> >> >>>> were
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> using
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> git.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking
>>>for
>>> >>the
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
>>> >><gates@hortonworks.com
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
>>> >> >>>> repository.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has
>>>changed
>>> >> >>>> (or
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> when it
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
>>> >>which
>>> >> >>>> we
>>> >> >>>> use.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can
>>> >>apply
>>> >> >>>> to
>>> >> >>>> do
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> via
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
>>>class
>>> >> >>>> citizen of
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
>>>pig
>>> >>is
>>> >> >>>> just
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about
>>>on
>>> >> >>>> Twitter
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously
>>>on the
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> --
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
>>> >>Please
>>> >> >>>> email
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> me at
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> --
>>> >> >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>> >> >>> datasyndrome.com
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>> >> datasyndrome.com
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>.
Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
Dmitriy
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
<ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be using...
> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
> patches?
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>
>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and upload
>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
>>
>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with svn,
>> but that is trivial.
>>
>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <gd...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git) is
>> >+1
>> >but later.
>> >
>> >The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated and
>> >standardized like the one with svn.
>> >I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to svn
>> >to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
>> >
>> >Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my humble
>> >opinion.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >--
>> >Gianmarco
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we committed
>> >> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
>> >>
>> >> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a github
>> >> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
>> >>
>> >> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior to
>> >> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
>> >>integration.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
>> >>problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. Works the
>> >> same.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA requires
>> >>the
>> >> >> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request from
>> >> github
>> >> >> does not.
>> >> >> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are experts.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from
>> >> >>> switching
>> >> >>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github.
>> >> Maybe
>> >> >>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of
>> >>entry
>> >> >>> for
>> >> >>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent
>> >>need
>> >> >>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process
>> >>and we
>> >> >>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several
>> >>to
>> >> >>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Daniel
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
>> >> jcoveney@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn
>> >>one
>> >> >>>> or
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as
>> >> >>>> well be
>> >> >>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo
>> >>using
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join
>> >> the
>> >> >>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
>> >> >>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> What's the work?
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvryaboy@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>> >> >>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses
>> >>git?
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>> >> >>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>> >> >>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >> >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
>> >><bi...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree
>> >> >>>> that
>> >> >>>> we
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> had
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects
>> >> >>>> were
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> using
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> git.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for
>> >>the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
>> >><gates@hortonworks.com
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
>> >> >>>> repository.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> You
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed
>> >> >>>> (or
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> when it
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
>> >>which
>> >> >>>> we
>> >> >>>> use.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can
>> >>apply
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> do
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> via
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
>> >> >>>> citizen of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig
>> >>is
>> >> >>>> just
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on
>> >> >>>> Twitter
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> --
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
>> >>Please
>> >> >>>> email
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> me at
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >> >>> datasyndrome.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >> datasyndrome.com
>> >>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be using...
something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
patches?
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and upload
> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
>
> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with svn,
> but that is trivial.
>
> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <gd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> >My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git) is
> >+1
> >but later.
> >
> >The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated and
> >standardized like the one with svn.
> >I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to svn
> >to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
> >
> >Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my humble
> >opinion.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >--
> >Gianmarco
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we committed
> >> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
> >>
> >> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a github
> >> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
> >>
> >> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior to
> >> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
> >>integration.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
> >>problem.
> >> >
> >> > I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. Works the
> >> same.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA requires
> >>the
> >> >> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request from
> >> github
> >> >> does not.
> >> >> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are experts.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from
> >> >>> switching
> >> >>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github.
> >> Maybe
> >> >>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of
> >>entry
> >> >>> for
> >> >>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent
> >>need
> >> >>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process
> >>and we
> >> >>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several
> >>to
> >> >>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Daniel
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> >> jcoveney@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn
> >>one
> >> >>>> or
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as
> >> >>>> well be
> >> >>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo
> >>using
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join
> >> the
> >> >>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> >> >>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> What's the work?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvryaboy@gmail.com
> >
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> >> >>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses
> >>git?
> >> >>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> >> >>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >> >>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >> >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
> >><bi...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree
> >> >>>> that
> >> >>>> we
> >> >>>>>>>>>> had
> >> >>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects
> >> >>>> were
> >> >>>>>>>>>> using
> >> >>>>>>>>>> git.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >> >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for
> >>the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
> >><gates@hortonworks.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
> >> >>>> repository.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> You
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed
> >> >>>> (or
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> when it
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
> >>which
> >> >>>> we
> >> >>>> use.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can
> >>apply
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> do
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> via
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
> >> >>>> citizen of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig
> >>is
> >> >>>> just
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on
> >> >>>> Twitter
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
> >>Please
> >> >>>> email
> >> >>>>>>>>>> me at
> >> >>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >> >>> datasyndrome.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >> datasyndrome.com
> >>
>
>
--
Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Gianmarco De Francisci Morales <gd...@apache.org>.
I usually do that for two reasons.
One, I feel better when I test that the patch correctly applies to the svn
tree. What I usually do is to generate a diff from git and apply it with
patch on the svn tree.
Two, I need to use the svn tree to commit the patch anyway.
Cheers,
--
Gianmarco
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 20:16, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com> wrote:
> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and upload
> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
>
> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with svn,
> but that is trivial.
>
> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <gd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> >My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git) is
> >+1
> >but later.
> >
> >The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated and
> >standardized like the one with svn.
> >I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to svn
> >to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
> >
> >Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my humble
> >opinion.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >--
> >Gianmarco
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we committed
> >> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
> >>
> >> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a github
> >> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
> >>
> >> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior to
> >> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
> >>integration.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
> >>problem.
> >> >
> >> > I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. Works the
> >> same.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA requires
> >>the
> >> >> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request from
> >> github
> >> >> does not.
> >> >> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are experts.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from
> >> >>> switching
> >> >>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github.
> >> Maybe
> >> >>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of
> >>entry
> >> >>> for
> >> >>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent
> >>need
> >> >>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process
> >>and we
> >> >>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several
> >>to
> >> >>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Daniel
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> >> jcoveney@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn
> >>one
> >> >>>> or
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as
> >> >>>> well be
> >> >>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo
> >>using
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join
> >> the
> >> >>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> >> >>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> What's the work?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvryaboy@gmail.com
> >
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> >> >>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses
> >>git?
> >> >>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> >> >>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >> >>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >> >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
> >><bi...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree
> >> >>>> that
> >> >>>> we
> >> >>>>>>>>>> had
> >> >>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects
> >> >>>> were
> >> >>>>>>>>>> using
> >> >>>>>>>>>> git.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >> >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for
> >>the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
> >><gates@hortonworks.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
> >> >>>> repository.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> You
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed
> >> >>>> (or
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> when it
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
> >>which
> >> >>>> we
> >> >>>> use.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can
> >>apply
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> do
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> via
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
> >> >>>> citizen of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig
> >>is
> >> >>>> just
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on
> >> >>>> Twitter
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
> >>Please
> >> >>>> email
> >> >>>>>>>>>> me at
> >> >>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >> >>> datasyndrome.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >> datasyndrome.com
> >>
>
>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>.
As much as I love git I also don't think now is the time to switch. We
currently have a solution that allows people to develop with svn or with
git, depending on their preferences. It's also possible to collaborate with
other developers on large patches using git and post links to diff's on
github.
The only pain point is that code submissions to JIRAs must be in patch form
(from svn or git), not links to diffs or pull requests. This pain does not
justify migrating from SVN to git imho. Not to mention that migrating
wouldn't fix this pain point.
Also there are still many developers out there who are more comfortable
using SVN. While I agree that git is the way if the future, we should be
hesitant of alienating an svn user who stumbles on a bug and wants to
submit a patch but doesn't know git.
I fail to see any real advantage to making git the primary repo at this
point.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales <
gdfm@apache.org> wrote:
> The fact is that git does not impose a development model, so it requires a
> bit more self discipline compared to svn.
> For example, let's say you create one branch for every Jira.
> And imagine you want to keep posting patches to Jira so that people can
> download and apply them, or have an equivalent.
> The patch in git would be the diff between the last commit before the merge
> and the start of the branch.
> But then you must be very careful with not cross merging among branches, no
> cherry-picking, and be very careful with rebasing.
> What do you do if your brach cannot merge and you need to rebase it?
> What if other people had branched off your branch and you rebase it?
>
> These are not issues that cannot be solved but it takes a bit of discipline
> and thought on how to design and integrate the new development model.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Gianmarco
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:36, Russell Jurney <russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Gianmarco, can you elaborate a bit on the fuzziness?
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales <
> > gdfm@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git)
> is
> > +1
> > > but later.
> > >
> > > The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated and
> > > standardized like the one with svn.
> > > I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to
> svn
> > > to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
> > >
> > > Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
> humble
> > > opinion.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > --
> > > Gianmarco
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
> committed
> > > > without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
> > > >
> > > > No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
> github
> > > > (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
> > > >
> > > > Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior to
> > > > submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
> > > integration.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney <
> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
> > problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. Works
> > the
> > > > same.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey <
> > scott@richrelevance.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA requires
> > the
> > > > >> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request from
> > > > github
> > > > >> does not.
> > > > >> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
> experts.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from
> > > > >>> switching
> > > > >>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
> github.
> > > > Maybe
> > > > >>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of
> > > entry
> > > > >>> for
> > > > >>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <
> daijy@hortonworks.com
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
> urgent
> > > need
> > > > >>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process
> > and
> > > we
> > > > >>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
> several
> > > to
> > > > >>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Daniel
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> > > > jcoveney@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
> learn
> > > one
> > > > >>>> or
> > > > >>>> the
> > > > >>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It might
> as
> > > > >>>> well be
> > > > >>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo
> > > using
> > > > >>>> the
> > > > >>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to
> > join
> > > > the
> > > > >>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> > > > >>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <
> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> What's the work?
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <
> > dvryaboy@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> > > > >>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
> uses
> > > git?
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> > > > >>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> > > > >>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <
> > billgraham@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion
> > tree
> > > > >>>> that
> > > > >>>> we
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> had
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
> > projects
> > > > >>>> were
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> using
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> git.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking
> for
> > > the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <
> > > gates@hortonworks.com
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
> > > > >>>> repository.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> You
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has
> > changed
> > > > >>>> (or
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> when it
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
> > which
> > > > >>>> we
> > > > >>>> use.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can
> > > apply
> > > > >>>> to
> > > > >>>> do
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> via
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
> class
> > > > >>>> citizen of
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
> pig
> > is
> > > > >>>> just
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on
> > > > >>>> Twitter
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on
> > the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
> > Please
> > > > >>>> email
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> me at
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > > >>> datasyndrome.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > > datasyndrome.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > datasyndrome.com
> >
>
--
*Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Gianmarco De Francisci Morales <gd...@apache.org>.
The fact is that git does not impose a development model, so it requires a
bit more self discipline compared to svn.
For example, let's say you create one branch for every Jira.
And imagine you want to keep posting patches to Jira so that people can
download and apply them, or have an equivalent.
The patch in git would be the diff between the last commit before the merge
and the start of the branch.
But then you must be very careful with not cross merging among branches, no
cherry-picking, and be very careful with rebasing.
What do you do if your brach cannot merge and you need to rebase it?
What if other people had branched off your branch and you rebase it?
These are not issues that cannot be solved but it takes a bit of discipline
and thought on how to design and integrate the new development model.
Cheers,
--
Gianmarco
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:36, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Gianmarco, can you elaborate a bit on the fuzziness?
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales <
> gdfm@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git) is
> +1
> > but later.
> >
> > The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated and
> > standardized like the one with svn.
> > I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to svn
> > to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
> >
> > Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my humble
> > opinion.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --
> > Gianmarco
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we committed
> > > without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
> > >
> > > No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a github
> > > (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
> > >
> > > Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior to
> > > submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
> > integration.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
> problem.
> > > >
> > > > I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. Works
> the
> > > same.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey <
> scott@richrelevance.com
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA requires
> the
> > > >> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request from
> > > github
> > > >> does not.
> > > >> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are experts.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from
> > > >>> switching
> > > >>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github.
> > > Maybe
> > > >>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of
> > entry
> > > >>> for
> > > >>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <daijy@hortonworks.com
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent
> > need
> > > >>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process
> and
> > we
> > > >>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several
> > to
> > > >>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Daniel
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> > > jcoveney@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn
> > one
> > > >>>> or
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as
> > > >>>> well be
> > > >>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo
> > using
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to
> join
> > > the
> > > >>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> > > >>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> What's the work?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <
> dvryaboy@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> > > >>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses
> > git?
> > > >>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> > > >>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> > > >>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <
> billgraham@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion
> tree
> > > >>>> that
> > > >>>> we
> > > >>>>>>>>>> had
> > > >>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
> projects
> > > >>>> were
> > > >>>>>>>>>> using
> > > >>>>>>>>>> git.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> > > >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for
> > the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <
> > gates@hortonworks.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
> > > >>>> repository.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> You
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has
> changed
> > > >>>> (or
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> when it
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
> which
> > > >>>> we
> > > >>>> use.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can
> > apply
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>> do
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> via
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
> > > >>>> citizen of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig
> is
> > > >>>> just
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on
> > > >>>> Twitter
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on
> the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
> Please
> > > >>>> email
> > > >>>>>>>>>> me at
> > > >>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > >>> datasyndrome.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > > datasyndrome.com
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> datasyndrome.com
>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Gianmarco, can you elaborate a bit on the fuzziness?
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales <
gdfm@apache.org> wrote:
> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git) is +1
> but later.
>
> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated and
> standardized like the one with svn.
> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to svn
> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
>
> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my humble
> opinion.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Gianmarco
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we committed
> > without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
> >
> > No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a github
> > (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
> >
> > Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior to
> > submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
> integration.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a problem.
> > >
> > > I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. Works the
> > same.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA requires the
> > >> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request from
> > github
> > >> does not.
> > >> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are experts.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from
> > >>> switching
> > >>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github.
> > Maybe
> > >>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of
> entry
> > >>> for
> > >>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent
> need
> > >>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process and
> we
> > >>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several
> to
> > >>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Daniel
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> > jcoveney@gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn
> one
> > >>>> or
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as
> > >>>> well be
> > >>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo
> using
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join
> > the
> > >>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> > >>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> What's the work?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> > >>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses
> git?
> > >>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> > >>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> > >>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <billgraham@gmail.com
> >
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree
> > >>>> that
> > >>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>> had
> > >>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects
> > >>>> were
> > >>>>>>>>>> using
> > >>>>>>>>>> git.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> > >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for
> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <
> gates@hortonworks.com
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
> > >>>> repository.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> You
> > >>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed
> > >>>> (or
> > >>>>>>>>>>> when it
> > >>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which
> > >>>> we
> > >>>> use.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can
> apply
> > >>>> to
> > >>>> do
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>>>>>> via
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
> > >>>> citizen of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is
> > >>>> just
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on
> > >>>> Twitter
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please
> > >>>> email
> > >>>>>>>>>> me at
> > >>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > >>> datasyndrome.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > datasyndrome.com
> >
>
--
Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>.
On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and upload
that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with svn,
but that is trivial.
On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <gd...@apache.org>
wrote:
>My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git) is
>+1
>but later.
>
>The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated and
>standardized like the one with svn.
>I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to svn
>to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
>
>Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my humble
>opinion.
>
>Cheers,
>--
>Gianmarco
>
>
>
>On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we committed
>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
>>
>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a github
>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
>>
>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior to
>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira
>>integration.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a
>>problem.
>> >
>> > I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. Works the
>> same.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA requires
>>the
>> >> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request from
>> github
>> >> does not.
>> >> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are experts.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from
>> >>> switching
>> >>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github.
>> Maybe
>> >>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of
>>entry
>> >>> for
>> >>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent
>>need
>> >>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process
>>and we
>> >>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several
>>to
>> >>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Daniel
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
>> jcoveney@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn
>>one
>> >>>> or
>> >>>> the
>> >>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as
>> >>>> well be
>> >>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo
>>using
>> >>>> the
>> >>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join
>> the
>> >>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
>> >>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> What's the work?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>> >>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses
>>git?
>> >>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>> >>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>> >>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
>><bi...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> we
>> >>>>>>>>>> had
>> >>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects
>> >>>> were
>> >>>>>>>>>> using
>> >>>>>>>>>> git.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>> >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for
>>the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
>><gates@hortonworks.com
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
>> >>>> repository.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You
>> >>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed
>> >>>> (or
>> >>>>>>>>>>> when it
>> >>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
>>which
>> >>>> we
>> >>>> use.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can
>>apply
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> do
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>>>>> via
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
>> >>>> citizen of
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig
>>is
>> >>>> just
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on
>> >>>> Twitter
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
>>Please
>> >>>> email
>> >>>>>>>>>> me at
>> >>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >>> datasyndrome.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> datasyndrome.com
>>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Gianmarco De Francisci Morales <gd...@apache.org>.
My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git) is +1
but later.
The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated and
standardized like the one with svn.
I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to svn
to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my humble
opinion.
Cheers,
--
Gianmarco
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we committed
> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
>
> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a github
> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
>
> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior to
> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira integration.
>
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a problem.
> >
> > I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. Works the
> same.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA requires the
> >> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request from
> github
> >> does not.
> >> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are experts.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from
> >>> switching
> >>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github.
> Maybe
> >>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of entry
> >>> for
> >>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent need
> >>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process and we
> >>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several to
> >>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> Daniel
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> jcoveney@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn one
> >>>> or
> >>>> the
> >>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as
> >>>> well be
> >>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join
> the
> >>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> >>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What's the work?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> >>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
> >>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree
> >>>> that
> >>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>> had
> >>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects
> >>>> were
> >>>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>> git.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
> >>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <gates@hortonworks.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
> >>>> repository.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You
> >>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed
> >>>> (or
> >>>>>>>>>>> when it
> >>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which
> >>>> we
> >>>> use.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply
> >>>> to
> >>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>> via
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
> >>>> citizen of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is
> >>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on
> >>>> Twitter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please
> >>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>> me at
> >>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>> datasyndrome.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> datasyndrome.com
>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>.
There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we committed without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a github (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior to submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira integration.
On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a problem.
>
> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. Works the same.
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA requires the
>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request from github
>> does not.
>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are experts.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from
>>> switching
>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github. Maybe
>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of entry
>>> for
>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent need
>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process and we
>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several to
>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn one
>>>> or
>>>> the
>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as
>>>> well be
>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using
>>>> the
>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join the
>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's the work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree
>>>> that
>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects
>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>> git.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <gates@hortonworks.com
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed
>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>>> when it
>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which
>>>> we
>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply
>>>> to
>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
>>>> citizen of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is
>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on
>>>> Twitter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please
>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>> me at
>>>>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>> datasyndrome.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a problem.
I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. Works the same.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>
> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA requires the
> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request from github
> does not.
> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are experts.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from
> >switching
> >to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github. Maybe
> >not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of entry
> >for
> >contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
> >
> >On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent need
> >> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process and we
> >> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several to
> >> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn one
> >>or
> >> the
> >> > other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as
> >>well be
> >> > git, since that's where things are going.
> >> >
> >> > 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> >> >
> >> >> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using
> >>the
> >> >> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join the
> >> >> trial, I'm not sure.
> >> >>
> >> >> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> >> >>
> >> >> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> >> >> infrastructure-dev list.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >What's the work?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> >> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
> >> >> >>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> It will propel the project forward.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Russell Jurney
> >> >> >>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >> >> >>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >> >> >>> datasyndrome.com
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree
> >>that
> >> we
> >> >> >>>>had
> >> >> >>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects
> >>were
> >> >> >>>>using
> >> >> >>>> git.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >> >> >>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
> >> >> >>>>>tweets.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <gates@hortonworks.com
> >
> >> >> >>>>>wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
> >>repository.
> >> >> >>>>>>You
> >> >> >>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed
> >>(or
> >> >> >>>>>when it
> >> >> >>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which
> >>we
> >> use.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Alan.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply
> >>to
> >> do
> >> >> >>>>>>>this
> >> >> >>>>> via
> >> >> >>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
> >> citizen of
> >> >> >>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is
> >>just
> >> >> >>>>>>>another
> >> >> >>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on
> >>Twitter
> >> >> >>>>>>>and the
> >> >> >>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
> >> >> >>>>>>>listserv.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >> >> >>>>>>> Jon
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> --
> >> >> >>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please
> >> email
> >> >> >>>>me at
> >> >> >>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >datasyndrome.com
>
>
--
Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Wait, this was discussed in that thread, and on twitter when I knocked
JIRA/svn. We don't have to lose JIRA integration. You can specify a url
to the git code in the tickets. This is SO much better than uploading a
patch that it is a huge win, not a loss.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> There is downside for switching now:
> * Lose Jira integration
> * Lose review board integration
> * Lose code search integration
>
> It would be more beneficial if we get more Apache infrastructure
> support before we switch.
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Russell Jurney
> <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from
> switching
> > to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github.
> Maybe
> > not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of entry
> for
> > contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent need
> >> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process and we
> >> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several to
> >> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn one
> or
> >> the
> >> > other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as
> well be
> >> > git, since that's where things are going.
> >> >
> >> > 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> >> >
> >> >> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using
> the
> >> >> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join the
> >> >> trial, I'm not sure.
> >> >>
> >> >> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> >> >>
> >> >> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> >> >> infrastructure-dev list.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >What's the work?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> >> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
> >> >> >>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> It will propel the project forward.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Russell Jurney
> >> >> >>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >> >> >>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >> >> >>> datasyndrome.com
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree
> that
> >> we
> >> >> >>>>had
> >> >> >>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects
> were
> >> >> >>>>using
> >> >> >>>> git.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >> >> >>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
> >> >> >>>>>tweets.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <gates@hortonworks.com
> >
> >> >> >>>>>wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
> repository.
> >> >> >>>>>>You
> >> >> >>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed
> (or
> >> >> >>>>>when it
> >> >> >>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which
> we
> >> use.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Alan.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply
> to
> >> do
> >> >> >>>>>>>this
> >> >> >>>>> via
> >> >> >>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
> >> citizen of
> >> >> >>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is
> just
> >> >> >>>>>>>another
> >> >> >>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on
> Twitter
> >> >> >>>>>>>and the
> >> >> >>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
> >> >> >>>>>>>listserv.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >> >> >>>>>>> Jon
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> --
> >> >> >>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please
> >> email
> >> >> >>>>me at
> >> >> >>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
> datasyndrome.com
>
--
Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>.
There is downside for switching now:
* Lose Jira integration
* Lose review board integration
* Lose code search integration
It would be more beneficial if we get more Apache infrastructure
support before we switch.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Russell Jurney
<ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from switching
> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github. Maybe
> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of entry for
> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent need
>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process and we
>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several to
>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn one or
>> the
>> > other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as well be
>> > git, since that's where things are going.
>> >
>> > 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>> >
>> >> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using the
>> >> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join the
>> >> trial, I'm not sure.
>> >>
>> >> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>> >>
>> >> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
>> >> infrastructure-dev list.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >What's the work?
>> >> >
>> >> >Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >> >
>> >> >On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
>> >> >>wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
>> >> >>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> It will propel the project forward.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Russell Jurney
>> >> >>> twitter.com/rjurney
>> >> >>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >> >>> datasyndrome.com
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that
>> we
>> >> >>>>had
>> >> >>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
>> >> >>>>using
>> >> >>>> git.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>> >> >>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
>> >> >>>>>tweets.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>> >> >>>>>wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository.
>> >> >>>>>>You
>> >> >>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or
>> >> >>>>>when it
>> >> >>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we
>> use.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Alan.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to
>> do
>> >> >>>>>>>this
>> >> >>>>> via
>> >> >>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
>> citizen of
>> >> >>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
>> >> >>>>>>>another
>> >> >>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter
>> >> >>>>>>>and the
>> >> >>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
>> >> >>>>>>>listserv.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>> >> >>>>>>> Jon
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please
>> email
>> >> >>>>me at
>> >> >>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>.
There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA requires the
user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request from github
does not.
This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are experts.
On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from
>switching
>to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github. Maybe
>not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of entry
>for
>contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
>
>On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent need
>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process and we
>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several to
>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn one
>>or
>> the
>> > other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as
>>well be
>> > git, since that's where things are going.
>> >
>> > 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>> >
>> >> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using
>>the
>> >> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join the
>> >> trial, I'm not sure.
>> >>
>> >> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>> >>
>> >> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
>> >> infrastructure-dev list.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >What's the work?
>> >> >
>> >> >Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >> >
>> >> >On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
>> >> >>wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
>> >> >>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> It will propel the project forward.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Russell Jurney
>> >> >>> twitter.com/rjurney
>> >> >>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >> >>> datasyndrome.com
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree
>>that
>> we
>> >> >>>>had
>> >> >>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects
>>were
>> >> >>>>using
>> >> >>>> git.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>> >> >>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
>> >> >>>>>tweets.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>> >> >>>>>wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
>>repository.
>> >> >>>>>>You
>> >> >>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed
>>(or
>> >> >>>>>when it
>> >> >>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which
>>we
>> use.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Alan.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply
>>to
>> do
>> >> >>>>>>>this
>> >> >>>>> via
>> >> >>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
>> citizen of
>> >> >>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is
>>just
>> >> >>>>>>>another
>> >> >>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on
>>Twitter
>> >> >>>>>>>and the
>> >> >>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
>> >> >>>>>>>listserv.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>> >> >>>>>>> Jon
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please
>> email
>> >> >>>>me at
>> >> >>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com
>datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit from switching
to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on github. Maybe
not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier of entry for
contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent need
> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process and we
> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several to
> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>
> Daniel
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn one or
> the
> > other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as well be
> > git, since that's where things are going.
> >
> > 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> >
> >> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using the
> >> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join the
> >> trial, I'm not sure.
> >>
> >> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> >>
> >> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> >> infrastructure-dev list.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >What's the work?
> >> >
> >> >Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >> >
> >> >On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> russell.jurney@gmail.com>
> >> >>wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
> >> >>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It will propel the project forward.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Russell Jurney
> >> >>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >> >>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >> >>> datasyndrome.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that
> we
> >> >>>>had
> >> >>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
> >> >>>>using
> >> >>>> git.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >> >>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
> >> >>>>>tweets.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> >> >>>>>wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository.
> >> >>>>>>You
> >> >>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or
> >> >>>>>when it
> >> >>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we
> use.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Alan.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to
> do
> >> >>>>>>>this
> >> >>>>> via
> >> >>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class
> citizen of
> >> >>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
> >> >>>>>>>another
> >> >>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter
> >> >>>>>>>and the
> >> >>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
> >> >>>>>>>listserv.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >> >>>>>>> Jon
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please
> email
> >> >>>>me at
> >> >>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> >>
> >>
>
--
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Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>.
This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an urgent need
for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process and we
can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first several to
try and solve the infrastructure problem.
Daniel
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn one or the
> other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as well be
> git, since that's where things are going.
>
> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>
>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using the
>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join the
>> trial, I'm not sure.
>>
>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>>
>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
>> infrastructure-dev list.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >What's the work?
>> >
>> >Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >
>> >On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>> >>
>> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
>> >>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>> >>>
>> >>> It will propel the project forward.
>> >>>
>> >>> Russell Jurney
>> >>> twitter.com/rjurney
>> >>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >>> datasyndrome.com
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we
>> >>>>had
>> >>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
>> >>>>using
>> >>>> git.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>> >>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
>> >>>>>tweets.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>> >>>>>wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository.
>> >>>>>>You
>> >>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or
>> >>>>>when it
>> >>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Alan.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do
>> >>>>>>>this
>> >>>>> via
>> >>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
>> >>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
>> >>>>>>>another
>> >>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter
>> >>>>>>>and the
>> >>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
>> >>>>>>>listserv.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>> >>>>>>> Jon
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
>> >>>>me at
>> >>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>
>>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>.
If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to learn one or the
other if they want to work with open source projects. It might as well be
git, since that's where things are going.
2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using the
> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join the
> trial, I'm not sure.
>
> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>
> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> infrastructure-dev list.
>
>
>
> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >What's the work?
> >
> >Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >
> >On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >>
> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
> >>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >>>
> >>> It will propel the project forward.
> >>>
> >>> Russell Jurney
> >>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we
> >>>>had
> >>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
> >>>>using
> >>>> git.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
> >>>>>tweets.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository.
> >>>>>>You
> >>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or
> >>>>>when it
> >>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do
> >>>>>>>this
> >>>>> via
> >>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
> >>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
> >>>>>>>another
> >>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter
> >>>>>>>and the
> >>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
> >>>>>>>listserv.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >>>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
> >>>>me at
> >>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>
>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>.
infrastructure-subscribe@apache.org
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Russell Jurney
<ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Uhhh how do you even get on the infrastructure-dev list? Can't find
> link/instructions. Feeling dumb.
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Scott. Can a committer plz join that list with me and we can hash
>> this out?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using the
>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join the
>>> trial, I'm not sure.
>>>
>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>>>
>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
>>> infrastructure-dev list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >What's the work?
>>> >
>>> >Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>> >
>>> >On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>>> >>wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
>>> >>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It will propel the project forward.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Russell Jurney
>>> >>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>> >>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>> >>> datasyndrome.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we
>>> >>>>had
>>> >>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
>>> >>>>using
>>> >>>> git.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>> >>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
>>> >>>>>tweets.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>> >>>>>wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository.
>>> >>>>>>You
>>> >>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or
>>> >>>>>when it
>>> >>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we
>>> use.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Alan.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do
>>> >>>>>>>this
>>> >>>>> via
>>> >>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen
>>> of
>>> >>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
>>> >>>>>>>another
>>> >>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter
>>> >>>>>>>and the
>>> >>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
>>> >>>>>>>listserv.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>> >>>>>>> Jon
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
>>> >>>>me at
>>> >>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.
>> com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Uhhh how do you even get on the infrastructure-dev list? Can't find
link/instructions. Feeling dumb.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Thanks, Scott. Can a committer plz join that list with me and we can hash
> this out?
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>
>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using the
>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join the
>> trial, I'm not sure.
>>
>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>>
>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
>> infrastructure-dev list.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >What's the work?
>> >
>> >Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >
>> >On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>> >>
>> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
>> >>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>> >>>
>> >>> It will propel the project forward.
>> >>>
>> >>> Russell Jurney
>> >>> twitter.com/rjurney
>> >>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> >>> datasyndrome.com
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we
>> >>>>had
>> >>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
>> >>>>using
>> >>>> git.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>> >>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
>> >>>>>tweets.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>> >>>>>wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository.
>> >>>>>>You
>> >>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or
>> >>>>>when it
>> >>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we
>> use.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Alan.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do
>> >>>>>>>this
>> >>>>> via
>> >>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen
>> of
>> >>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
>> >>>>>>>another
>> >>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter
>> >>>>>>>and the
>> >>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
>> >>>>>>>listserv.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>> >>>>>>> Jon
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
>> >>>>me at
>> >>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.
> com
>
--
Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Thanks, Scott. Can a committer plz join that list with me and we can hash
this out?
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using the
> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join the
> trial, I'm not sure.
>
> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>
> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> infrastructure-dev list.
>
>
>
> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >What's the work?
> >
> >Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >
> >On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >>
> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
> >>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >>>
> >>> It will propel the project forward.
> >>>
> >>> Russell Jurney
> >>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we
> >>>>had
> >>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
> >>>>using
> >>>> git.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
> >>>>>tweets.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository.
> >>>>>>You
> >>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or
> >>>>>when it
> >>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do
> >>>>>>>this
> >>>>> via
> >>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
> >>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
> >>>>>>>another
> >>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter
> >>>>>>>and the
> >>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
> >>>>>>>listserv.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >>>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
> >>>>me at
> >>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>
>
--
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Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Viva el Chancho!
Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> (With my member and PMC hat on) No, that's a violation of Apache policy. Apache code is hosted on Apache sites, not on github. If we want to use git we have to sell Apache on letting us use it through their infrastructure, not by moving the code somewhere else.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>
>> Let's start using github and publish to svn during releases.
>>
>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Answering that question is the first part of the answer to that question.
>>> #recursion
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> What's the work?
>>>>
>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we
>>>> had
>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
>>>> using
>>>>>>> git.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
>>>> tweets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository. You
>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or when
>>>> it
>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do
>>>> this
>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter and
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the listserv.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
>>>> me at
>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>>>
>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>.
(With my member and PMC hat on) No, that's a violation of Apache policy. Apache code is hosted on Apache sites, not on github. If we want to use git we have to sell Apache on letting us use it through their infrastructure, not by moving the code somewhere else.
Alan.
On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
> Let's start using github and publish to svn during releases.
>
> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Answering that question is the first part of the answer to that question.
>> #recursion
>>
>> D
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> What's the work?
>>>
>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>>>>
>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>>>>>
>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we
>>> had
>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
>>> using
>>>>>> git.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
>>> tweets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository. You
>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or when
>>> it
>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do
>>> this
>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
>>> another
>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter and
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the listserv.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
>>> me at
>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Herbert Mühlburger <he...@gmail.com>.
Am 22.03.12 06:30, schrieb Russell Jurney:
> Let's start using github and publish to svn during releases.
+1
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>.
Start here: http://www.apache.org/dev/git.html
I don't think having an out of date svn repo is a good idea, since that's
where newcomers will check.
D
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Russell Jurney
<ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Let's start using github and publish to svn during releases.
>
> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Answering that question is the first part of the answer to that question.
> > #recursion
> >
> > D
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Russell Jurney <
> russell.jurney@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> What's the work?
> >>
> >> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>
> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
> >>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >>>>
> >>>> It will propel the project forward.
> >>>>
> >>>> Russell Jurney
> >>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we
> >> had
> >>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
> >> using
> >>>>> git.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
> >> tweets.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository.
> You
> >>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or
> when
> >> it
> >>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we
> use.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do
> >> this
> >>>>>> via
> >>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen
> of
> >>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
> >> another
> >>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter
> and
> >> the
> >>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
> listserv.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >>>>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
> >> me at
> >>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
> >>
>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Let's start using github and publish to svn during releases.
Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Answering that question is the first part of the answer to that question.
> #recursion
>
> D
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> What's the work?
>>
>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>>>
>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>>>>
>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we
>> had
>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
>> using
>>>>> git.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
>> tweets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository. You
>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or when
>> it
>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do
>> this
>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
>> another
>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter and
>> the
>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the listserv.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
>> me at
>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>.
Answering that question is the first part of the answer to that question.
#recursion
D
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> What's the work?
>
> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >
> > On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
> >> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >>
> >> It will propel the project forward.
> >>
> >> Russell Jurney
> >> twitter.com/rjurney
> >> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >> datasyndrome.com
> >>
> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we
> had
> >>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
> using
> >>> git.
> >>>
> >>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
> tweets.
> >>>>
> >>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository. You
> >>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or when
> it
> >>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do
> this
> >>>> via
> >>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
> >>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
> another
> >>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter and
> the
> >>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the listserv.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
> me at
> >>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>.
Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary repo using the
CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer to join the
trial, I'm not sure.
see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
infrastructure-dev list.
On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>What's the work?
>
>Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>
>On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>>
>>> It will propel the project forward.
>>>
>>> Russell Jurney
>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>> datasyndrome.com
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we
>>>>had
>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were
>>>>using
>>>> git.
>>>>
>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the
>>>>>tweets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository.
>>>>>>You
>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or
>>>>>when it
>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do
>>>>>>>this
>>>>> via
>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just
>>>>>>>another
>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter
>>>>>>>and the
>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the
>>>>>>>listserv.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
>>>>me at
>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
What's the work?
Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
>
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>>
>> It will propel the project forward.
>>
>> Russell Jurney
>> twitter.com/rjurney
>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>> datasyndrome.com
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we had
>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were using
>>> git.
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the tweets.
>>>>
>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository. You
>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or when it
>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do this
>>>> via
>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just another
>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter and the
>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the listserv.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Dmitriy Ryaboy <dv...@gmail.com>.
All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>
> It will propel the project forward.
>
> Russell Jurney
> twitter.com/rjurney
> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> datasyndrome.com
>
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we had
>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were using
>> git.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the tweets.
>>>
>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository. You
>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or when it
>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
>>>>
>>>> Alan.
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do this
>>> via
>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just another
>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter and the
>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the listserv.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
What do we have to do to be the first real project that uses git?
Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
It will propel the project forward.
Russell Jurney
twitter.com/rjurney
russell.jurney@gmail.com
datasyndrome.com
On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we had
> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were using
> git.
>
> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> <ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the tweets.
>>
>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository. You
>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or when it
>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do this
>> via
>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just another
>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter and the
>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the listserv.
>>>>
>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>>>> Jon
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>.
I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion tree that we had
re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator projects were using
git.
https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
<ru...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the tweets.
>
> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
> > AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository. You
> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or when it
> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >
> >> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do this
> via
> >> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
> >> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just another
> >> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter and the
> >> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the listserv.
> >>
> >> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >> Jon
> >
>
--
*Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
I think this changed, and you are now allowed. Looking for the tweets.
Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository. You can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or when it does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>
>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do this via
>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just another
>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter and the
>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the listserv.
>>
>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>> Jon
>
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>.
AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary repository. You can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has changed (or when it does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care which we use.
Alan.
On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can apply to do this via
> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first class citizen of
> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just another
> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about on Twitter and the
> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously on the listserv.
>
> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> Jon
Re: Making git the repo of choice for Pig?
Posted by Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>.
On 3/20/12 11:22 PM, "Jonathan Coveney" <jc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>forcing developers to use svn to work with pig is just another
>barrier, imho.
Some might say forcing developers to use git to work with pig is just
another
barrier.
Many people don't know how to use git well (or at all), many people don't
know how to use svn well (or at all).