Minutes of the Woden Status Telecon, 2007-08-21

[Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com>]

Attendees: Lawrence Mandel, John Kaputin, Dan Harvey
Regrets: Arthur Ryman

Minutes

1. Open Action Items - Lawrence Mandel

2007-05-22 - John will follow up with Jeremy about the copyright question 
in the status file.
2007-06-19
John: Jeremy was following up to ensure the paperwork for our WSDL4J 
contribution was done. It's with IBM legal now. I'll follow up next week.
2007-06-26
John: I spoke to Jeremy last Tuesday. He's going to confirm that the 
paperwork from IBM's perspective are complete.
2007-07-10
John: I spoke with Jeremy today. He couldn't get a hold of the legal 
counsel yet. I'll hopefully have an answer for next week.
2007-07-17
John: Jeremy still hasn't got a response.
Lawrence: I spoke with the Apache secretary through e-mail. If we haven't 
copied any WSDL4J code we may not need an agreement.
John: I think we copied some of the common utility code so we should get 
this agreement in place.
2007-08-07
John: I spoke to Jeremy last week. He still doesn't have an answer yet.
2007-08-14
John: Jeremy has made some progress and hopes to have this completed 
shortly.
2007-08-21
John: No update.


2007-07-10 - John will look at CodeHaus to try and find the license for 
the Woodstox jar.
2007-07-17
John: The problem is with the API jar not the wstx jar. I reported this 
problem on the latest WS board report.
Lawrence: There are a couple options. We can follow up with Axiom to see 
if they've done the due diligence for this library. Two, we can try to 
move to the Geronimo StAX API but in this case we'll need to ensure Axiom 
plays well with the Geronimo API.
2007-08-07
John: No progress yet. I'm going to follow up with the Woodstox and Axiom 
projects to see what they've done to reconcile the license.
2007-08-14
John: I'm about to post to the Apache WS list and will cross post a couple
other relevant lists to try and solicit more information. Someone should 
know how Axis2 redistributes this jar.
Lawrence: It was suggested that we use the Geronimo StAX API but I don't 
think this is an option as Axis2 and Axiom use the StAX API and we don't 
know what kind of problems this will create.
2007-08-21
John: I sent an e-mail to axis and commons-dev lists today about this.


2007-05-22 - John will document the Woden decision making and development 
processes on the Woden site.
2007-06-19
John: No progress.
2007-06-26
John: I'll revisit this in another week after I'm made some further 
progress on the Woden extensions.
2007-07-10
John: No progress.
2007-07-17
John: No progress. I don't think I'll have a chance to take care of this 
action this week.
2007-08-07
John: No progress. I think what's needed here is what a new developer 
would need to get involved. Using Jira and the mailing list. Using the W3C
test suite. Open development. Milestones. I haven't had a chance to look 
at the Apache documentation to see what exactly is required.
Lawrence: I'll look at the requirements and put up a skeleton document 
that we can all work to fill in.
2007-08-14
Lawrence: I posted the skeleton doc last night.
Dan: I've started some documentation that I can contribute to this page.
2007-08-21
John: I haven't committed Dan's documentation for build and test yet. I'll 
probably apply it this week.


2007-07-10 - John will follow up with Jeremy to make the change in SVN for
EOL.
2007-07-17
John: I haven't spoken with Jeremy yet. I had a look at the subclipse 
client to figure out how to set the property. I haven't found the way yet.
2007-08-07
John: Dan has uploaded some patches to a Jira that he'll review with me 
tomorrow. It looks like we'll need to configure each subversion client so 
this is something each developer will have to do. We may need to capture 
this in the process document.
2007-08-14
John: Dan created a config file and written documentation on how to apply 
it, which will also go on the Web site. I'm going to review his writeup 
and then add it to the Web site.
2007-08-21
John: I've updated my SVN client with Dan's instructions. I need to go 
through all the files with inconsistent characters and correct them. This 
is a one time activity. When I'm done I'll put the instructions on the 
Woden site and send a note to the dev list asking everyone else to update 
their clients.


2. Milestone 8 (M8) Status - John Kaputin

John: I've been working on Woden extensions, woden-47. Dan has some code 
to instantiate an Eclipse plug-in registry and I've taken what he's done 
and posted questions back to equinox list. The one real issue is the size 
of the OSGi jar.
Lawrence: So using equinox will require about a meg. What size is Woden 
currently?
John: 300Kb for just Woden. The current dependencies total roughly ~2.5 
megs. My current thinking is to go ahead with what we've got and 
investigate further in the long term.
Lawrence: I agree. We can move to equinox or add it on top afterwards. 
Let's get through M8.

John: Dan's working on a number of Jiras this week. After they're done the 
Jiras that are left mainly are to do with assertions.


3. Graduation from Incubation - Lawrence Mandel

Lawrence: We still have 3 outstanding issues that we discussed in the open 
action items.


4. Development Discussion - All

Lawrence: John, I saw you reviewed Sagara's contribution. How's it look.
John: There are a number of TODOs and some formatting issues. Other than 
that it looked good. It follows WSDL4J style. I've responded with 
suggestions in the Jira. There is a compile error I asked him to fix. I've 
created a woden-65 branch and will commit the code there once the problems 
are fixed.


5. Other Business - All

John: Apache has received Sagara's ICLA.


Thanks,

Lawrence Mandel



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