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[DISCUSS] Microprofile repo
Hi guys,
I'd like to formalize a bit more the "microprofile repo" discussion so I'm
opening a new thread.
The goal is the following one: get a repository where to put transversal
code and provide a kind of "bom" or "starter" pom for users willing to get
geronimo-microprofile-* at once.
Originally it would just be one pom but I see it can evolve to manage N
poms (one per MP version) and potentially some ASF servers enriched with
the libs (to discuss later probably but it is to share what this repo can
host).
Wdyt?
Romain Manni-Bucau
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Re: [DISCUSS] Microprofile repo
Posted by Raymond Auge <ra...@liferay.com>.
On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Most of the implementations are based on CDI. Not sure if we need CDI 2,
> but that would definitely be something to add on the README.adoc for the
> project
>
Ok, so you are saying the target of the Geronimo MP BOM should be the base
Eclipse MP profile and not any concrete target? Note that I'm not
disagreeing. I'm just trying to get a clear picture.
- Ray
>
>
> Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 15:39, Raymond Auge <ra...@liferay.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> +1 on the BOM
>>
>> Is the idea to have 1:N deployment targets? What do Geronimo MP impls
>> currently target for deployment?
>>
>> I guess I'm saying that I'd like the opportunity to provide one such
>> deployment target if it comes to that.
>>
>> - Ray
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 5:07 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A BOM could be definitely useful so we can have a consistent set of
>>> impls for a microprofile version.
>>> Separate repo seems relevant as well
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>> Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 09:32, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>>> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 08:55, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Or we have this as part of our site?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Works for the site, not for the bom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Or an examples project?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is not an example but a delivery IMHO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Or having both in one?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep, i'd put a new repo with both the site and the bom delivery since
>>>> it would be about releases mainly, not "real" code.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>> strub
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Am 09.07.2018 um 08:35 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com>:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Oops, forgot to mention it wpuld also host the site generation
>>>>> (aggregating all repo contents with antora)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Le dim. 8 juil. 2018 21:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>> > Hi guys,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'd like to formalize a bit more the "microprofile repo" discussion
>>>>> so I'm opening a new thread.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The goal is the following one: get a repository where to put
>>>>> transversal code and provide a kind of "bom" or "starter" pom for users
>>>>> willing to get geronimo-microprofile-* at once.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Originally it would just be one pom but I see it can evolve to
>>>>> manage N poms (one per MP version) and potentially some ASF servers
>>>>> enriched with the libs (to discuss later probably but it is to share what
>>>>> this repo can host).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Wdyt?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>> > @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
>> (@rotty3000)
>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com>
>> (@Liferay)
>> Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance <http://osgi.org>
>> (@OSGiAlliance)
>>
>
--
*Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
(@rotty3000)
Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com>
(@Liferay)
Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance <http://osgi.org> (@OSGiAlliance)
Re: [DISCUSS] Microprofile repo
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Yes, currently we rely on CDI 2 (as MP 2).
Very short term the goal is to provide a way to have a MP server as simply
as adding a dependency in a pom (instead of wondering where to find jwt
auth, where to find opentracing, where to find openapi, etc...)
Then probably provide a zip with all the libs bundled (I know tomee can
directly grab it on m2 and add it to its libs in 2 line)
Also handle the doc (we have pretty much nothing yet except poor readmes)
And finally maybe built in some prepackage servers (i know tomee or
meecrowave would be trivial to do) <- to discuss a bit more and I don't
want this hold the new repo creation since it can be added after
That's my vision on that new place for us.
Anyone wants to lead that? I'm happy to help or to do it too but guess it
can be a way to enter MP too so letting a chance to others to grab some fun
;)
Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
<https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
<https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>
Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 16:02, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com> a
écrit :
> Most of the implementations are based on CDI. Not sure if we need CDI 2,
> but that would definitely be something to add on the README.adoc for the
> project
>
>
> Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 15:39, Raymond Auge <ra...@liferay.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> +1 on the BOM
>>
>> Is the idea to have 1:N deployment targets? What do Geronimo MP impls
>> currently target for deployment?
>>
>> I guess I'm saying that I'd like the opportunity to provide one such
>> deployment target if it comes to that.
>>
>> - Ray
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 5:07 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A BOM could be definitely useful so we can have a consistent set of
>>> impls for a microprofile version.
>>> Separate repo seems relevant as well
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>> Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 09:32, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>>> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 08:55, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Or we have this as part of our site?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Works for the site, not for the bom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Or an examples project?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is not an example but a delivery IMHO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Or having both in one?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep, i'd put a new repo with both the site and the bom delivery since
>>>> it would be about releases mainly, not "real" code.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>> strub
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Am 09.07.2018 um 08:35 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com>:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Oops, forgot to mention it wpuld also host the site generation
>>>>> (aggregating all repo contents with antora)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Le dim. 8 juil. 2018 21:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>> > Hi guys,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'd like to formalize a bit more the "microprofile repo" discussion
>>>>> so I'm opening a new thread.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The goal is the following one: get a repository where to put
>>>>> transversal code and provide a kind of "bom" or "starter" pom for users
>>>>> willing to get geronimo-microprofile-* at once.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Originally it would just be one pom but I see it can evolve to
>>>>> manage N poms (one per MP version) and potentially some ASF servers
>>>>> enriched with the libs (to discuss later probably but it is to share what
>>>>> this repo can host).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Wdyt?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>> > @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
>> (@rotty3000)
>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com>
>> (@Liferay)
>> Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance <http://osgi.org>
>> (@OSGiAlliance)
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Microprofile repo
Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>.
Most of the implementations are based on CDI. Not sure if we need CDI 2,
but that would definitely be something to add on the README.adoc for the
project
Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 15:39, Raymond Auge <ra...@liferay.com> a
écrit :
> +1 on the BOM
>
> Is the idea to have 1:N deployment targets? What do Geronimo MP impls
> currently target for deployment?
>
> I guess I'm saying that I'd like the opportunity to provide one such
> deployment target if it comes to that.
>
> - Ray
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 5:07 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> A BOM could be definitely useful so we can have a consistent set of impls
>> for a microprofile version.
>> Separate repo seems relevant as well
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 09:32, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 08:55, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> Or we have this as part of our site?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Works for the site, not for the bom
>>>
>>>
>>>> Or an examples project?
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is not an example but a delivery IMHO
>>>
>>>
>>>> Or having both in one?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yep, i'd put a new repo with both the site and the bom delivery since it
>>> would be about releases mainly, not "real" code.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> LieGrue,
>>>> strub
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Am 09.07.2018 um 08:35 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com>:
>>>> >
>>>> > Oops, forgot to mention it wpuld also host the site generation
>>>> (aggregating all repo contents with antora)
>>>> >
>>>> > Le dim. 8 juil. 2018 21:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>>>> a écrit :
>>>> > Hi guys,
>>>> >
>>>> > I'd like to formalize a bit more the "microprofile repo" discussion
>>>> so I'm opening a new thread.
>>>> >
>>>> > The goal is the following one: get a repository where to put
>>>> transversal code and provide a kind of "bom" or "starter" pom for users
>>>> willing to get geronimo-microprofile-* at once.
>>>> >
>>>> > Originally it would just be one pom but I see it can evolve to manage
>>>> N poms (one per MP version) and potentially some ASF servers enriched with
>>>> the libs (to discuss later probably but it is to share what this repo can
>>>> host).
>>>> >
>>>> > Wdyt?
>>>> >
>>>> > Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>> > @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
> --
> *Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
> (@rotty3000)
> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com>
> (@Liferay)
> Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance <http://osgi.org>
> (@OSGiAlliance)
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Microprofile repo
Posted by Raymond Auge <ra...@liferay.com>.
+1 on the BOM
Is the idea to have 1:N deployment targets? What do Geronimo MP impls
currently target for deployment?
I guess I'm saying that I'd like the opportunity to provide one such
deployment target if it comes to that.
- Ray
On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 5:07 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> A BOM could be definitely useful so we can have a consistent set of impls
> for a microprofile version.
> Separate repo seems relevant as well
>
> +1
>
>
> Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 09:32, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> a écrit :
>
>> Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 08:55, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> a écrit :
>>
>>> Or we have this as part of our site?
>>>
>>
>> Works for the site, not for the bom
>>
>>
>>> Or an examples project?
>>>
>>
>> This is not an example but a delivery IMHO
>>
>>
>>> Or having both in one?
>>>
>>
>> Yep, i'd put a new repo with both the site and the bom delivery since it
>> would be about releases mainly, not "real" code.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> LieGrue,
>>> strub
>>>
>>>
>>> > Am 09.07.2018 um 08:35 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com>:
>>> >
>>> > Oops, forgot to mention it wpuld also host the site generation
>>> (aggregating all repo contents with antora)
>>> >
>>> > Le dim. 8 juil. 2018 21:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>>> a écrit :
>>> > Hi guys,
>>> >
>>> > I'd like to formalize a bit more the "microprofile repo" discussion so
>>> I'm opening a new thread.
>>> >
>>> > The goal is the following one: get a repository where to put
>>> transversal code and provide a kind of "bom" or "starter" pom for users
>>> willing to get geronimo-microprofile-* at once.
>>> >
>>> > Originally it would just be one pom but I see it can evolve to manage
>>> N poms (one per MP version) and potentially some ASF servers enriched with
>>> the libs (to discuss later probably but it is to share what this repo can
>>> host).
>>> >
>>> > Wdyt?
>>> >
>>> > Romain Manni-Bucau
>>> > @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>>>
>>>
--
*Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
(@rotty3000)
Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com>
(@Liferay)
Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance <http://osgi.org> (@OSGiAlliance)
Re: [DISCUSS] Microprofile repo
Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>.
A BOM could be definitely useful so we can have a consistent set of impls
for a microprofile version.
Separate repo seems relevant as well
+1
Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 09:32, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> a
écrit :
> Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 08:55, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> a écrit :
>
>> Or we have this as part of our site?
>>
>
> Works for the site, not for the bom
>
>
>> Or an examples project?
>>
>
> This is not an example but a delivery IMHO
>
>
>> Or having both in one?
>>
>
> Yep, i'd put a new repo with both the site and the bom delivery since it
> would be about releases mainly, not "real" code.
>
>
>>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>>
>> > Am 09.07.2018 um 08:35 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> rmannibucau@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > Oops, forgot to mention it wpuld also host the site generation
>> (aggregating all repo contents with antora)
>> >
>> > Le dim. 8 juil. 2018 21:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>> a écrit :
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > I'd like to formalize a bit more the "microprofile repo" discussion so
>> I'm opening a new thread.
>> >
>> > The goal is the following one: get a repository where to put
>> transversal code and provide a kind of "bom" or "starter" pom for users
>> willing to get geronimo-microprofile-* at once.
>> >
>> > Originally it would just be one pom but I see it can evolve to manage N
>> poms (one per MP version) and potentially some ASF servers enriched with
>> the libs (to discuss later probably but it is to share what this repo can
>> host).
>> >
>> > Wdyt?
>> >
>> > Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Microprofile repo
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Le lun. 9 juil. 2018 à 08:55, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> a écrit :
> Or we have this as part of our site?
>
Works for the site, not for the bom
> Or an examples project?
>
This is not an example but a delivery IMHO
> Or having both in one?
>
Yep, i'd put a new repo with both the site and the bom delivery since it
would be about releases mainly, not "real" code.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> > Am 09.07.2018 um 08:35 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >:
> >
> > Oops, forgot to mention it wpuld also host the site generation
> (aggregating all repo contents with antora)
> >
> > Le dim. 8 juil. 2018 21:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> a écrit :
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I'd like to formalize a bit more the "microprofile repo" discussion so
> I'm opening a new thread.
> >
> > The goal is the following one: get a repository where to put transversal
> code and provide a kind of "bom" or "starter" pom for users willing to get
> geronimo-microprofile-* at once.
> >
> > Originally it would just be one pom but I see it can evolve to manage N
> poms (one per MP version) and potentially some ASF servers enriched with
> the libs (to discuss later probably but it is to share what this repo can
> host).
> >
> > Wdyt?
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Microprofile repo
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
Or we have this as part of our site?
Or an examples project?
Or having both in one?
LieGrue,
strub
> Am 09.07.2018 um 08:35 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>:
>
> Oops, forgot to mention it wpuld also host the site generation (aggregating all repo contents with antora)
>
> Le dim. 8 juil. 2018 21:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> Hi guys,
>
> I'd like to formalize a bit more the "microprofile repo" discussion so I'm opening a new thread.
>
> The goal is the following one: get a repository where to put transversal code and provide a kind of "bom" or "starter" pom for users willing to get geronimo-microprofile-* at once.
>
> Originally it would just be one pom but I see it can evolve to manage N poms (one per MP version) and potentially some ASF servers enriched with the libs (to discuss later probably but it is to share what this repo can host).
>
> Wdyt?
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
Re: [DISCUSS] Microprofile repo
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Oops, forgot to mention it wpuld also host the site generation (aggregating
all repo contents with antora)
Le dim. 8 juil. 2018 21:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> a
écrit :
> Hi guys,
>
> I'd like to formalize a bit more the "microprofile repo" discussion so I'm
> opening a new thread.
>
> The goal is the following one: get a repository where to put transversal
> code and provide a kind of "bom" or "starter" pom for users willing to get
> geronimo-microprofile-* at once.
>
> Originally it would just be one pom but I see it can evolve to manage N
> poms (one per MP version) and potentially some ASF servers enriched with
> the libs (to discuss later probably but it is to share what this repo can
> host).
>
> Wdyt?
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github
> <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn
> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>
>