RE: [jira] Closed: (AXIS-1255) Web site refers users to bugzilla instead of JIRA

[Tom Jordahl <to...@macromedia.com>]

> Bugzilla is a very high-touch product. It and CVS's useful life are
> probably over.

Huh?  Can you explain this Steve?  This is the first I've heard that CVS
isn't the right source control solution for open source projects.  What the
heck is SVN?

We use Perforce (or ClearCase) at work, but that is because we are willing
to pay money for a "real" system. :-)

--
Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Loughran [mailto:steve_l@iseran.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 5:26 AM
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: [jira] Closed: (AXIS-1255) Web site refers users to bugzilla
instead of JIRA

Glen Mazza wrote:
> I see.  I wasn't informed about this on FOP--the switch away from CVS is 
> also a surprise.  Well, Jira is a good product anyway.  Although it's be 
> best to be promoting open-source, I guess Bugzilla is simply not 
> designed for the heavy usage needed by Apache.

Bugzilla is a very high-touch product. It and CVS's useful life are 
probably over.

In house we are moving to SVN, and maybe Scarab.

Re: [jira] Closed: (AXIS-1255) Web site refers users to bugzilla instead of JIRA

[Steve Loughran <st...@iseran.com>]

Tom Jordahl wrote:
>>Bugzilla is a very high-touch product. It and CVS's useful life are
>>probably over.
> 
> 
> Huh?  Can you explain this Steve?  This is the first I've heard that CVS
> isn't the right source control solution for open source projects.  What the
> heck is SVN?

SVN: subversion. The open source successor to CVS, now at 1.0 level. 
Gump already supports SVN, as does Cruise control, and a lot of the rest 
of the toolchain should soon be picking up their support too.

Imagine CVS gets directory awareness, atomic operations and (by virtue 
of its WebDAV underpinnings), the ability to go through firewalls 
easily. Oh, and you should be able to use http digest auth, too.

I believe Apache projects can use SVN now if they want to; something to 
try out with WS-FX components first, perhaps.


> We use Perforce (or ClearCase) at work, but that is because we are willing
> to pay money for a "real" system. :-)

I have used ClearCase, and think the idea of a versioned network file 
system is wonderful. I just happen to fear and respect the 
implementation that exists the same way that some of the hill tribes of 
bits of India, worship diseases like smallpox -something that capable of 
destroying your life needs to be treated with respect. When other SCM 
systems play up, you cannot check code in or out. When ClearCase plays 
up, your work area *disappears*.