RE: Replacement of WARNING.NT proposed - side thread

["William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@lnd.com>]

If what James and I propose is a windows-read-me.txt - then I agree with
Ryan's proposal, provided we change the name to WARNING-WIN-95-98.TXT.

Please see my additional ideas inline.  Remember who many of our 95/98 users
are, so we need to keep this language pretty basic.

I will wait till the end of the day Monday to push for these two changes to
be committed, so we can hear any additional feedback.

> From: rbb@shell.ntrnet.net [mailto:rbb@shell.ntrnet.net]On Behalf Of
>
> I think I've missed something.  This doesn't really say
> anything new.  I
> think if we are going to replace the WARNING-NT.TXT file, it should be
> with something simple like:
>
> WARNING:  Although the Win32 release of Apache has been brought up to the

s/Apache has been brought up/Apache 2.0 is engineered to/

> same standard as the Unix release, we do not recommend using it on the
> Win9X series in a production environment.  These platforms were not

s/Win9X series/Windows 95 or 98 operating systems/

s/platforms/consumer systems/

> designed as server platforms, and do not support some of the features
> required for a flexible, secure server.  These platforms are
> well suited for testing the server and cgi-scripts.

s/cgi-scripts/developing web sites/
a/Please refer to the file win32-read-me.txt file for more specific
details./


> That's enough to let people know that the Win32 release is
> finally up to
> snuff, and that we are supporting Win9X, but we don't recommend using
> them, because they may not be full-featured.
>
> Ryan
>
>
> On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>
> > Pre Alpha-2.0 - would anyone else (esp. Mr. Stoddard &
> other big Win32
> > contributors) please comment aye or nay (or at least offer
> changes.)  If we
> > will really be releasing a solid Win32 build this time,
> it's time for
> > WARNING-NT to go.
> >
> > Replace WARNING-NT.TXT with a new WIN32-READ-ME.TXT (rev
> 0.13) proposed by
> >       James Sutherland [mailto:jas88@cam.ac.uk]
> >       William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:wrowe@lnd.com]
>
>
>

RE: Replacement of WARNING.NT with WARNING_WIN_95_98.txt

[James Sutherland <ja...@cam.ac.uk>]

On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

> Then if this is what we all want to say, lets say it (I'm still looking
> forward to Mr. NT-MPM's thoughts!  Are you out there Bill?)
> 
> WARNING:  Although the Win32 release of Apache 2.0 is engineered to the
> same standard as the Unix release, we do not recommend using it on the
> Windows 95 or 98 operating systems in a production environment.  These 
> consumer systems were not designed as server platforms, and do not 
> support some of the features required for a flexible, secure server.
> These platforms are well suited for testing the server and developing 
> web sites.
> 
> Please refer to the Apache 2.0 manual pages for more specific details.
> 
> 
> > From: rbb@shell.ntrnet.net [mailto:rbb@shell.ntrnet.net]On Behalf Of
> > What I read in your readme, is basically a rehash of what has 
> > already been said in the README
> > file, plus the part about not supporting Win9X fully.  Unless we are
> > adding something that I have missed to this file, I don't see it as
> > necessary.
> > 
> > Ryan
> > 
> 
> Q to you Ryan and James - is the originally proposed win32-read-me 
> better dispatched off to the html documentation, then?  I don't want 
> to clutter the root with too much drivel - but I think there were 
> some valid details in the 0.13 draft.

I would certainly agree with moving win32-readme into the HTML docs; IMO,
the text stuff in the root should be limited to installation information,
and warnings that Apache doesn't work with Foo 1.2.3.

A nice Win32 HTML page wouldn't hurt, with the short caveat about Win95/98
in the root containing a pointer to that. Having it visible on the WWW
site might also encourage a few more Win32 users to have a go, which can't
hurt!


James.

RE: Replacement of WARNING.NT with WARNING_WIN_95_98.txt

["William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@lnd.com>]

Then if this is what we all want to say, lets say it (I'm still looking
forward to Mr. NT-MPM's thoughts!  Are you out there Bill?)

WARNING:  Although the Win32 release of Apache 2.0 is engineered to the
same standard as the Unix release, we do not recommend using it on the
Windows 95 or 98 operating systems in a production environment.  These 
consumer systems were not designed as server platforms, and do not 
support some of the features required for a flexible, secure server.
These platforms are well suited for testing the server and developing 
web sites.

Please refer to the Apache 2.0 manual pages for more specific details.


> From: rbb@shell.ntrnet.net [mailto:rbb@shell.ntrnet.net]On Behalf Of
> What I read in your readme, is basically a rehash of what has 
> already been said in the README
> file, plus the part about not supporting Win9X fully.  Unless we are
> adding something that I have missed to this file, I don't see it as
> necessary.
> 
> Ryan
> 

Q to you Ryan and James - is the originally proposed win32-read-me 
better dispatched off to the html documentation, then?  I don't want 
to clutter the root with too much drivel - but I think there were 
some valid details in the 0.13 draft.

RE: Replacement of WARNING.NT proposed - side thread

[rb...@apache.org]

On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

> If what James and I propose is a windows-read-me.txt - then I agree with
> Ryan's proposal, provided we change the name to WARNING-WIN-95-98.TXT.
> 
> Please see my additional ideas inline.  Remember who many of our 95/98 users
> are, so we need to keep this language pretty basic.
> 
> I will wait till the end of the day Monday to push for these two changes to
> be committed, so we can hear any additional feedback.
> 

I don't have any problem with any of your changes.  My writing style tends
to be very informal (to the chagrin of my wife/editor).  I still don't
understand the need for a windows specific readme.  What I read  in your
readme, is basically a rehash of what has already been said in the README
file, plus the part about not supporting Win9X fully.  Unless we are
adding something that I have missed to this file, I don't see it as
necessary.

Ryan

> > From: rbb@shell.ntrnet.net [mailto:rbb@shell.ntrnet.net]On Behalf Of
> >
> > I think I've missed something.  This doesn't really say
> > anything new.  I
> > think if we are going to replace the WARNING-NT.TXT file, it should be
> > with something simple like:
> >
> > WARNING:  Although the Win32 release of Apache has been brought up to the
> 
> s/Apache has been brought up/Apache 2.0 is engineered to/
> 
> > same standard as the Unix release, we do not recommend using it on the
> > Win9X series in a production environment.  These platforms were not
> 
> s/Win9X series/Windows 95 or 98 operating systems/
> 
> s/platforms/consumer systems/
> 
> > designed as server platforms, and do not support some of the features
> > required for a flexible, secure server.  These platforms are
> > well suited for testing the server and cgi-scripts.
> 
> s/cgi-scripts/developing web sites/
> a/Please refer to the file win32-read-me.txt file for more specific
> details./
> 
> 
> > That's enough to let people know that the Win32 release is
> > finally up to
> > snuff, and that we are supporting Win9X, but we don't recommend using
> > them, because they may not be full-featured.
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> >
> > > Pre Alpha-2.0 - would anyone else (esp. Mr. Stoddard &
> > other big Win32
> > > contributors) please comment aye or nay (or at least offer
> > changes.)  If we
> > > will really be releasing a solid Win32 build this time,
> > it's time for
> > > WARNING-NT to go.
> > >
> > > Replace WARNING-NT.TXT with a new WIN32-READ-ME.TXT (rev
> > 0.13) proposed by
> > >       James Sutherland [mailto:jas88@cam.ac.uk]
> > >       William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:wrowe@lnd.com]
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 


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