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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Chad La Joie <cl...@vt.edu> on 2001/04/24 05:08:42 UTC
Re: Catch me for writing a 'Never Before' BOOK on Tomcat!!!
I agree with all that, however as it stands right now we are looking at
making the book available online. This allows it to change with new
releases. Yes, the book is not going to reflect the new version the day
it comes out (unless we are REALLY on the ball) but it shouldn't be to
long between the release and new version of the book. Also I don't
think we will be covering all the minor releases and certianly not betas
or nightly builds. So that really leaves Tomcat 3.2 right now and in
the future 4.0. Not to daunting of a task I think.
Arnaud Dostes - NTI wrote:
>
> First, I think it is a great idea, as tomcat is a reference nowadays.
> Second, great idea to want to include the community into this.
>
> Since the beginning of the year, versions of tomcat 3.2, 3.2.1, 3.2.2b1 b2
> and b3, 4.0b1, 4.0b2 and 4.0b3 have been released, not counting all the
> nightly builds....
>
> Taking into consideration the major (at least major IMO) changes between
> version 3.1, 3.2.1 and 4.0, I am afraid that by the time the book comes out
> (around 12 to 18 months from now), its content will be obsolete, as tomcat
> evolves so quickly (even its included doc contains outdated erratas).
>
> My point is : Tomcat is worth writing a book on, but aren't you afraid that
> it is not 'mature' enough yet ?
>
> Regards, Arnaud Dostes.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Manjunath B.V." <ma...@lycos.com>
> To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:57 PM
> Subject: Catch me for writing a 'Never Before' BOOK on Tomcat!!!
>
> > Hello William, David, Bill, Anne, Martin, Ed, Chad, Armin, Joel, Mark and
> all the people interested in bringing out a book on Tomcat.
> >
> > Let me introduce myself to you first. I'm Manjunath.B.V, A Tech
> > Editor for Wrox and I'm a subscriber to the tomcat mailing list.I have
> been contemplating the thought of editing a book on "Tomcat" for quite
> sometime now and your mail actually hit upon my thoughts and made it
> stronger.
> > I feel that tomcat has made it's mark and works wonderfully well as
> a servlet and JSP server(been using it for more than eight months now). It's
> beyond compare. But there seems to be no book on the whole of planet earth
> apart from the docs.
> > So would it possible for some/all of you to take the initiative to
> write a book on tomcat, which can reach hundreds of thousands and work
> wonders for the Open Source Community.
> > Interested developers can write to me and say "YES. We are damn
> > interested" and lo we have a beautiful book on Tomcat coming up for all
> the Tomcat lovers in the world!!!
> > Together we can do it!
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Manjunath.B.V.
> > Technical Editor,
> > Open Source Editorial,
> > Wrox Press Ltd.
> >
> > Mail me back at manjubv@wrox.com.
> >
> >
> >
> > Get 250 color business cards for FREE!
> > http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/
Re: Catch me for writing a 'Never Before' BOOK on Tomcat!!!
Posted by Chad La Joie <cl...@vt.edu>.
If your interested a yahoo group has been started,
tcbooks@yahoogroups.com
To sign up simply send a mail to tcbook-subscribe@yahoogroups.com with a
body of
"subscribe firstname lastname" should get you on it. Feel free to join
in.
Arnaud Dostes - NTI wrote:
>
> True, covering nightly builds and milestones is impossible !!
>
> Making the book online solves the problem of delays and being up to date.
>
> So it narrows it down to version 3.2 and 4.0 to cover, and since 4.0 is
> beta, covering 3.2 makes more sense.
> If I can give a hand, I will, I'm starting to know my way around servlets
> and stuff. I've been wanting to participate in a community driven project
> for quite some time.
>
> Cheers, AD.
>
Re: Catch me for writing a 'Never Before' BOOK on Tomcat!!!
Posted by Martin Mauri <mm...@profesi.com.ar>.
Sam, those things have just been propposed, you should get into the
tcbook@yahoogroups.com list. Ask for it to Chad La Joie <cl...@vt.edu>
> What would the scope of the book be? Will it be developing a webapp with
jsp
> and servlets under tomcat, or will it just be about configuring and
setting
> up tomcat? In either case, I'd guess given the posts I see day in day out
on
> this list, these following things are essential:
>
> Tomcat & Apache using mod_jk - covering the ajpv12 & ajpv13 differences,
and
> why NOT to use JServ
> Tomcat with SSL via Apache (perhaps including getting apache to use
> mod_ssl?)
> Deployment using ANT
> Tomcat & IIS
>
> Should of course cover both *nix setups and win32 setups. The first two I
> know a fair bit about. I know nothing about the second two.
>
> I would guess the book would have to be targeted at tomcat 4.0 to stand a
> chance of being up to date when released.
>
> sam
Re: Catch me for writing a 'Never Before' BOOK on Tomcat!!!
Posted by Sam Newman <sa...@www.stamplets.com>.
What would the scope of the book be? Will it be developing a webapp with jsp
and servlets under tomcat, or will it just be about configuring and setting
up tomcat? In either case, I'd guess given the posts I see day in day out on
this list, these following things are essential:
Tomcat & Apache using mod_jk - covering the ajpv12 & ajpv13 differences, and
why NOT to use JServ
Tomcat with SSL via Apache (perhaps including getting apache to use
mod_ssl?)
Deployment using ANT
Tomcat & IIS
Should of course cover both *nix setups and win32 setups. The first two I
know a fair bit about. I know nothing about the second two.
I would guess the book would have to be targeted at tomcat 4.0 to stand a
chance of being up to date when released.
sam
Re: Catch me for writing a 'Never Before' BOOK on Tomcat!!!
Posted by Arnaud Dostes - NTI <ad...@nti-sa.com>.
True, covering nightly builds and milestones is impossible !!
Making the book online solves the problem of delays and being up to date.
So it narrows it down to version 3.2 and 4.0 to cover, and since 4.0 is
beta, covering 3.2 makes more sense.
If I can give a hand, I will, I'm starting to know my way around servlets
and stuff. I've been wanting to participate in a community driven project
for quite some time.
Cheers, AD.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad La Joie" <cl...@vt.edu>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: Catch me for writing a 'Never Before' BOOK on Tomcat!!!
> I agree with all that, however as it stands right now we are looking at
> making the book available online. This allows it to change with new
> releases. Yes, the book is not going to reflect the new version the day
> it comes out (unless we are REALLY on the ball) but it shouldn't be to
> long between the release and new version of the book. Also I don't
> think we will be covering all the minor releases and certianly not betas
> or nightly builds. So that really leaves Tomcat 3.2 right now and in
> the future 4.0. Not to daunting of a task I think.
>
> Arnaud Dostes - NTI wrote:
> >
> > First, I think it is a great idea, as tomcat is a reference nowadays.
> > Second, great idea to want to include the community into this.
> >
> > Since the beginning of the year, versions of tomcat 3.2, 3.2.1, 3.2.2b1
b2
> > and b3, 4.0b1, 4.0b2 and 4.0b3 have been released, not counting all the
> > nightly builds....
> >
> > Taking into consideration the major (at least major IMO) changes between
> > version 3.1, 3.2.1 and 4.0, I am afraid that by the time the book comes
out
> > (around 12 to 18 months from now), its content will be obsolete, as
tomcat
> > evolves so quickly (even its included doc contains outdated erratas).
> >
> > My point is : Tomcat is worth writing a book on, but aren't you afraid
that
> > it is not 'mature' enough yet ?
> >
> > Regards, Arnaud Dostes.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Manjunath B.V." <ma...@lycos.com>
> > To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:57 PM
> > Subject: Catch me for writing a 'Never Before' BOOK on Tomcat!!!
> >
> > > Hello William, David, Bill, Anne, Martin, Ed, Chad, Armin, Joel, Mark
and
> > all the people interested in bringing out a book on Tomcat.
> > >
> > > Let me introduce myself to you first. I'm Manjunath.B.V, A Tech
> > > Editor for Wrox and I'm a subscriber to the tomcat mailing list.I have
> > been contemplating the thought of editing a book on "Tomcat" for quite
> > sometime now and your mail actually hit upon my thoughts and made it
> > stronger.
> > > I feel that tomcat has made it's mark and works wonderfully
well as
> > a servlet and JSP server(been using it for more than eight months now).
It's
> > beyond compare. But there seems to be no book on the whole of planet
earth
> > apart from the docs.
> > > So would it possible for some/all of you to take the initiative
to
> > write a book on tomcat, which can reach hundreds of thousands and work
> > wonders for the Open Source Community.
> > > Interested developers can write to me and say "YES. We are damn
> > > interested" and lo we have a beautiful book on Tomcat coming up for
all
> > the Tomcat lovers in the world!!!
> > > Together we can do it!
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Manjunath.B.V.
> > > Technical Editor,
> > > Open Source Editorial,
> > > Wrox Press Ltd.
> > >
> > > Mail me back at manjubv@wrox.com.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Get 250 color business cards for FREE!
> > > http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/