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Home page with CSS fix...
... is available at http://www.swe-blog.net/tamaya/
In the evening I will spend a little bit time more an smaller problems
with the homepage...
Oliver
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P +49 30 44793251
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E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
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J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
Links may have to be fixed, but I like some of the Bootstrap issues like
the top bar "hopping" when content has different length seems fixed with it.
Werner
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 7:21 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Yep, so are we sure the setup right now for the website is good?
>
> There's some flaws with it.
>
> - Website docs end up as a part of our source release.
> - Building is very tightly coupled with our source code build tool, which
> isn't an ideal tool to build websites with.
>
> The ASF has been playing with both a gitpubsub tool and using jeckyll. I'm
> wondering if we'd be interested in seeing either tool, and decouple the
> site from the source code?
>
> You can see an example of one site here:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-quarks-website
>
> John
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:13 PM Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For me ok. Can we update our hompage today with the current version, so I
> > can snnounce the release ans start with my infoq article... 😊???
> > Am 17.04.2016 18:59 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <
> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> > >:
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > this is correct and brings up a different question. Which branch should
> we
> > use for the maintainence of the homepage?
> >
> > Currently the current version of the homepage is on the master branch,
> > which is also the current development branch. Therefore the version
> number
> > is set to 0.3...
> >
> > I would prefer to maintain the homepage on the master branch because I
> > didn't expect some one would like to switch to the branch of the latest
> > release version. WDYT?
> >
> > If we decide or at least if no one objects and we would like to maintain
> > the homepage from the master branch, I would use some property and a
> little
> > bit of white Maven magic to refer to the latest release version and the
> > current development version.
> >
> > In the long run we should be able to reference multiple versions of
> Tamaya
> > from the homepage but this is a different topic.
> >
> > Bye,
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> > Am 17.04.16 um 17:01 schrieb John D. Ament:
> >
> > Looks great!
> > > One thing to note, it may be better to use 0.2-incubating as the
> version
> > > for the quickstart guide, this way you don't need to build local or
> point
> > > to the snapshot repos.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 10:14 AM Oliver B. Fischer <
> > > o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > ... is available at http://www.swe-blog.net/tamaya/
> > >>
> > >> In the evening I will spend a little bit time more an smaller problems
> > >> with the homepage...
> > >>
> > >> Oliver
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> N Oliver B. Fischer
> > >> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> > >> P +49 30 44793251
> > >> M +49 178 7903538
> > >> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> > >> S oliver.b.fischer
> > >> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> > >> X http://xing.to/obf
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > --
> > N Oliver B. Fischer
> > A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> > P +49 30 44793251
> > M +49 178 7903538
> > E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> > S oliver.b.fischer
> > J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> > X http://xing.to/obf
> >
>
Fwd: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
As Tamaya is about to put the new (Maven generated) HP live, I'll check out
what could be applied to DeviceMap in a similar way.
Might make it easier to publish content and also give us a slightly
revamped modern page.
Werner
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Home page with CSS fix...
To: dev@tamaya.incubator.apache.org
I just tested the workflow. It is very basic. But works.
Am 23.04.16 um 12:39 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> Awesome!
> Am 23.04.2016 11:39 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> >:
>
> Will update the homepage in the evening. Ciao
>>
>> Am 23.04.16 um 09:26 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>>
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
>>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
I just tested the workflow. It is very basic. But works.
Am 23.04.16 um 12:39 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> Awesome!
> Am 23.04.2016 11:39 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>:
>
>> Will update the homepage in the evening. Ciao
>>
>> Am 23.04.16 um 09:26 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>>
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com>.
Awesome!
Am 23.04.2016 11:39 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>:
> Will update the homepage in the evening. Ciao
>
> Am 23.04.16 um 09:26 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>
>> See the current release guide. There you see the svn checkout. Afaik the
>> stuff should end up in the content folder. Then go to the site online and
>> activate the asf bookmark plugin in the browser. You will get a chance to
>> preview the staged site and, if satisfied, to commit it to the production
>> tree... or did you mean something else?
>> Am 23.04.2016 00:54 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> >:
>>
>> As far as I understand I have to put the whole site in a specific
>>> Subversion repository and then it will be published? I read
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html but it wasn't helpfull IMHO.
>>>
>>> Am 22.04.16 um 12:24 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>>>
>>> --
>>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>>> P +49 30 44793251
>>> M +49 178 7903538
>>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>>> S oliver.b.fischer
>>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>>
>>>
>>>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
Will update the homepage in the evening. Ciao
Am 23.04.16 um 09:26 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> See the current release guide. There you see the svn checkout. Afaik the
> stuff should end up in the content folder. Then go to the site online and
> activate the asf bookmark plugin in the browser. You will get a chance to
> preview the staged site and, if satisfied, to commit it to the production
> tree... or did you mean something else?
> Am 23.04.2016 00:54 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>:
>
>> As far as I understand I have to put the whole site in a specific
>> Subversion repository and then it will be published? I read
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html but it wasn't helpfull IMHO.
>>
>> Am 22.04.16 um 12:24 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>>
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com>.
See the current release guide. There you see the svn checkout. Afaik the
stuff should end up in the content folder. Then go to the site online and
activate the asf bookmark plugin in the browser. You will get a chance to
preview the staged site and, if satisfied, to commit it to the production
tree... or did you mean something else?
Am 23.04.2016 00:54 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>:
> As far as I understand I have to put the whole site in a specific
> Subversion repository and then it will be published? I read
> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html but it wasn't helpfull IMHO.
>
> Am 22.04.16 um 12:24 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>
>> +1 for publishing it as is. Can you also update the related part in the
>> release guide☺?
>> Am 22.04.2016 11:18 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> >:
>>
>> John,
>>>
>>> the site is not perfect at the moment. There are some minor issues in the
>>> layout and the handling of the latest release version and the current
>>> development version. For the cleanest solution we have to decide which
>>> part
>>> of the documentation is only part of the website and which documents
>>> belongs to the released version of Tamaya. This needs some work to be
>>> done.
>>> And might be solved only with the release of 0.3-incubating.
>>>
>>> Therefore I would like to publish the current version. If we have a
>>> working deployment chain it is easy to improve the homepage step by step.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> Oliver
>>>
>>> Am 20.04.16 um 20:04 schrieb John D. Ament:
>>>
>>> --
>>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>>> P +49 30 44793251
>>> M +49 178 7903538
>>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>>> S oliver.b.fischer
>>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>>
>>>
>>>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
I should have read the POM. It is late now here in Berlin an I will have
a look at it tomorrow.
Am 23.04.16 um 01:05 schrieb John D. Ament:
> The repo is listed here:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-tamaya/blob/master/pom.xml#L142
> I'm not sure, but I suspect if you do a mvn site-deploy it'll build and
> upload to that SVN repo.
>
> We may need to do some other clean up if we're moving away from checking in
> directly to SVN (I believe last time I asked, we were using direct SVN
> commits + CMS publishing). I agree its confusing, this is why I brought up
> gitpubsub (It strikes me that I probably wasn't clear in what I was
> describing, mostly because I don't understand how we build right now.
> Anatole, can you confirm what I've described? Looks like we have a mix of
> static files and markdown in the SVN URL).
>
> With gitpubsub, you should be able to just do a "mvn site-deploy" to check
> into some git repo (e.g. incubator-tamaya-site), which the ASF infra picks
> up on and uses to publish the website. I mentioned things like jeckyll as
> that's what many projects are using to build their websites, but nothing
> would be a hard requirement. At the end of the day, infra just wants a
> repo that they can point to with the website's contents in it.
>
> I think either way we need to move the site code into a separate
> "tamaya-site" module in SCM so that the site settings aren't applied to
> every module. Currently with CMS you need to commit to an SVN repo, wait
> for it to build, then verify in staging and publish via CMS. (
> https://cms.apache.org is the URL to do the publishing).
>
> John
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 6:54 PM Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
> wrote:
>
>> As far as I understand I have to put the whole site in a specific
>> Subversion repository and then it will be published? I read
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html but it wasn't helpfull IMHO.
>>
>> Am 22.04.16 um 12:24 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net>:
>> the
>> part
>> done.
>> step.
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
The repo is listed here:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-tamaya/blob/master/pom.xml#L142
I'm not sure, but I suspect if you do a mvn site-deploy it'll build and
upload to that SVN repo.
We may need to do some other clean up if we're moving away from checking in
directly to SVN (I believe last time I asked, we were using direct SVN
commits + CMS publishing). I agree its confusing, this is why I brought up
gitpubsub (It strikes me that I probably wasn't clear in what I was
describing, mostly because I don't understand how we build right now.
Anatole, can you confirm what I've described? Looks like we have a mix of
static files and markdown in the SVN URL).
With gitpubsub, you should be able to just do a "mvn site-deploy" to check
into some git repo (e.g. incubator-tamaya-site), which the ASF infra picks
up on and uses to publish the website. I mentioned things like jeckyll as
that's what many projects are using to build their websites, but nothing
would be a hard requirement. At the end of the day, infra just wants a
repo that they can point to with the website's contents in it.
I think either way we need to move the site code into a separate
"tamaya-site" module in SCM so that the site settings aren't applied to
every module. Currently with CMS you need to commit to an SVN repo, wait
for it to build, then verify in staging and publish via CMS. (
https://cms.apache.org is the URL to do the publishing).
John
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 6:54 PM Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
wrote:
> As far as I understand I have to put the whole site in a specific
> Subversion repository and then it will be published? I read
> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html but it wasn't helpfull IMHO.
>
> Am 22.04.16 um 12:24 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> > +1 for publishing it as is. Can you also update the related part in the
> > release guide☺?
> > Am 22.04.2016 11:18 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <
> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net>:
> >
> >> John,
> >>
> >> the site is not perfect at the moment. There are some minor issues in
> the
> >> layout and the handling of the latest release version and the current
> >> development version. For the cleanest solution we have to decide which
> part
> >> of the documentation is only part of the website and which documents
> >> belongs to the released version of Tamaya. This needs some work to be
> done.
> >> And might be solved only with the release of 0.3-incubating.
> >>
> >> Therefore I would like to publish the current version. If we have a
> >> working deployment chain it is easy to improve the homepage step by
> step.
> >>
> >> WDYT?
> >>
> >> Oliver
> >>
> >> Am 20.04.16 um 20:04 schrieb John D. Ament:
> >>
> >> --
> >> N Oliver B. Fischer
> >> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> >> P +49 30 44793251
> >> M +49 178 7903538
> >> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> >> S oliver.b.fischer
> >> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> >> X http://xing.to/obf
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
As far as I understand I have to put the whole site in a specific
Subversion repository and then it will be published? I read
http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html but it wasn't helpfull IMHO.
Am 22.04.16 um 12:24 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> +1 for publishing it as is. Can you also update the related part in the
> release guide☺?
> Am 22.04.2016 11:18 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>:
>
>> John,
>>
>> the site is not perfect at the moment. There are some minor issues in the
>> layout and the handling of the latest release version and the current
>> development version. For the cleanest solution we have to decide which part
>> of the documentation is only part of the website and which documents
>> belongs to the released version of Tamaya. This needs some work to be done.
>> And might be solved only with the release of 0.3-incubating.
>>
>> Therefore I would like to publish the current version. If we have a
>> working deployment chain it is easy to improve the homepage step by step.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> Am 20.04.16 um 20:04 schrieb John D. Ament:
>>
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Agreed, the new site looks great so lets publish it.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 6:24 AM Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for publishing it as is. Can you also update the related part in the
> release guide☺?
> Am 22.04.2016 11:18 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> >:
>
> > John,
> >
> > the site is not perfect at the moment. There are some minor issues in the
> > layout and the handling of the latest release version and the current
> > development version. For the cleanest solution we have to decide which
> part
> > of the documentation is only part of the website and which documents
> > belongs to the released version of Tamaya. This needs some work to be
> done.
> > And might be solved only with the release of 0.3-incubating.
> >
> > Therefore I would like to publish the current version. If we have a
> > working deployment chain it is easy to improve the homepage step by step.
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> > Am 20.04.16 um 20:04 schrieb John D. Ament:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> So don't confuse gitpubsub w/ the tools I mentioned. Apologies for
> that.
> >>
> >> Basically, we can push to the git repo (current one) and cause the
> website
> >> to rebuild.
> >>
> >> I guess what I"m confused by is seeing the user facing 0.2 vs the
> >> developer
> >> facing 0.3-snapshot.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:44 PM Oliver B. Fischer <
> >> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> @Anatole: Can we somehow automate the process of updating the page?
> >>>
> >>> I will today work on the following change:
> >>>
> >>> 1. The home will reference 0.2 as latest and greatest
> >>> 2. 0.3-incubating will be referenced current developed version.
> >>>
> >>> Oliver
> >>>
> >>> Am 20.04.16 um 07:46 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> >>> ask
> >>> to
> >>> same
> >>> lot of
> >>> --
> >>> N Oliver B. Fischer
> >>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> >>> P +49 30 44793251
> >>> M +49 178 7903538
> >>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> >>> S oliver.b.fischer
> >>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> >>> X http://xing.to/obf
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> > --
> > N Oliver B. Fischer
> > A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> > P +49 30 44793251
> > M +49 178 7903538
> > E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> > S oliver.b.fischer
> > J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> > X http://xing.to/obf
> >
> >
>
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com>.
+1 for publishing it as is. Can you also update the related part in the
release guide☺?
Am 22.04.2016 11:18 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>:
> John,
>
> the site is not perfect at the moment. There are some minor issues in the
> layout and the handling of the latest release version and the current
> development version. For the cleanest solution we have to decide which part
> of the documentation is only part of the website and which documents
> belongs to the released version of Tamaya. This needs some work to be done.
> And might be solved only with the release of 0.3-incubating.
>
> Therefore I would like to publish the current version. If we have a
> working deployment chain it is easy to improve the homepage step by step.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Oliver
>
> Am 20.04.16 um 20:04 schrieb John D. Ament:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> So don't confuse gitpubsub w/ the tools I mentioned. Apologies for that.
>>
>> Basically, we can push to the git repo (current one) and cause the website
>> to rebuild.
>>
>> I guess what I"m confused by is seeing the user facing 0.2 vs the
>> developer
>> facing 0.3-snapshot.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:44 PM Oliver B. Fischer <
>> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> @Anatole: Can we somehow automate the process of updating the page?
>>>
>>> I will today work on the following change:
>>>
>>> 1. The home will reference 0.2 as latest and greatest
>>> 2. 0.3-incubating will be referenced current developed version.
>>>
>>> Oliver
>>>
>>> Am 20.04.16 um 07:46 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>>> ask
>>> to
>>> same
>>> lot of
>>> --
>>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>>> P +49 30 44793251
>>> M +49 178 7903538
>>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>>> S oliver.b.fischer
>>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>>
>>>
>>>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
John,
the site is not perfect at the moment. There are some minor issues in
the layout and the handling of the latest release version and the
current development version. For the cleanest solution we have to decide
which part of the documentation is only part of the website and which
documents belongs to the released version of Tamaya. This needs some
work to be done. And might be solved only with the release of
0.3-incubating.
Therefore I would like to publish the current version. If we have a
working deployment chain it is easy to improve the homepage step by step.
WDYT?
Oliver
Am 20.04.16 um 20:04 schrieb John D. Ament:
> Hi,
>
> So don't confuse gitpubsub w/ the tools I mentioned. Apologies for that.
>
> Basically, we can push to the git repo (current one) and cause the website
> to rebuild.
>
> I guess what I"m confused by is seeing the user facing 0.2 vs the developer
> facing 0.3-snapshot.
>
> John
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:44 PM Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
> wrote:
>
>> @Anatole: Can we somehow automate the process of updating the page?
>>
>> I will today work on the following change:
>>
>> 1. The home will reference 0.2 as latest and greatest
>> 2. 0.3-incubating will be referenced current developed version.
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> Am 20.04.16 um 07:46 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>> ask
>> to
>> same
>> lot of
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Hi,
So don't confuse gitpubsub w/ the tools I mentioned. Apologies for that.
Basically, we can push to the git repo (current one) and cause the website
to rebuild.
I guess what I"m confused by is seeing the user facing 0.2 vs the developer
facing 0.3-snapshot.
John
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:44 PM Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
wrote:
> @Anatole: Can we somehow automate the process of updating the page?
>
> I will today work on the following change:
>
> 1. The home will reference 0.2 as latest and greatest
> 2. 0.3-incubating will be referenced current developed version.
>
> Oliver
>
> Am 20.04.16 um 07:46 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> > Hi all
> >
> > I dont see any reasons, why we should change things here. I just would
> ask
> > how long we plan until we update the current homepage? Maybe I find time
> to
> > update it later today...
> >
> > -Anatole
> >
> > 2016-04-19 14:08 GMT+02:00 Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>:
> >
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> at the moment I would prefer the current setup, because it coupled with
> >> the project source itself. Most stuff we use for the website has the
> same
> >> lifecycle as the code itself. Maintaining them in a different repository
> >> seems IMHO more complicated. If there will be a time there we have a
> lot of
> >> documents and other information which is separate from the stuff in the
> >> code repository, we could and should discuss an other solution.
> >>
> >> WDYT?
> >>
> >> Oliver
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 17.04.16 um 19:21 schrieb John D. Ament:
> >>
> >> --
> >> N Oliver B. Fischer
> >> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> >> P +49 30 44793251
> >> M +49 178 7903538
> >> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> >> S oliver.b.fischer
> >> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> >> X http://xing.to/obf
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com>.
Basically there is a mvn plugin that should be able to deploy the site to
the site svn repo. Management of the current release may be done out of the
repo? We can discuss further tomorrow...
J Anatole
Am 20.04.2016 19:44 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>:
@Anatole: Can we somehow automate the process of updating the page?
I will today work on the following change:
1. The home will reference 0.2 as latest and greatest
2. 0.3-incubating will be referenced current developed version.
Oliver
Am 20.04.16 um 07:46 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> Hi all
>
> I dont see any reasons, why we should change things here. I just would ask
> how long we plan until we update the current homepage? Maybe I find time to
> update it later today...
>
> -Anatole
>
> 2016-04-19 14:08 GMT+02:00 Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>:
>
> Hi John,
>>
>> at the moment I would prefer the current setup, because it coupled with
>> the project source itself. Most stuff we use for the website has the same
>> lifecycle as the code itself. Maintaining them in a different repository
>> seems IMHO more complicated. If there will be a time there we have a lot
>> of
>> documents and other information which is separate from the stuff in the
>> code repository, we could and should discuss an other solution.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>>
>> Am 17.04.16 um 19:21 schrieb John D. Ament:
>>
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
>>
>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
@Anatole: Can we somehow automate the process of updating the page?
I will today work on the following change:
1. The home will reference 0.2 as latest and greatest
2. 0.3-incubating will be referenced current developed version.
Oliver
Am 20.04.16 um 07:46 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> Hi all
>
> I dont see any reasons, why we should change things here. I just would ask
> how long we plan until we update the current homepage? Maybe I find time to
> update it later today...
>
> -Anatole
>
> 2016-04-19 14:08 GMT+02:00 Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> at the moment I would prefer the current setup, because it coupled with
>> the project source itself. Most stuff we use for the website has the same
>> lifecycle as the code itself. Maintaining them in a different repository
>> seems IMHO more complicated. If there will be a time there we have a lot of
>> documents and other information which is separate from the stuff in the
>> code repository, we could and should discuss an other solution.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>>
>> Am 17.04.16 um 19:21 schrieb John D. Ament:
>>
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com>.
Hi all
I dont see any reasons, why we should change things here. I just would ask
how long we plan until we update the current homepage? Maybe I find time to
update it later today...
-Anatole
2016-04-19 14:08 GMT+02:00 Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>:
> Hi John,
>
> at the moment I would prefer the current setup, because it coupled with
> the project source itself. Most stuff we use for the website has the same
> lifecycle as the code itself. Maintaining them in a different repository
> seems IMHO more complicated. If there will be a time there we have a lot of
> documents and other information which is separate from the stuff in the
> code repository, we could and should discuss an other solution.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Oliver
>
>
> Am 17.04.16 um 19:21 schrieb John D. Ament:
>
>> Yep, so are we sure the setup right now for the website is good?
>>
>> There's some flaws with it.
>>
>> - Website docs end up as a part of our source release.
>> - Building is very tightly coupled with our source code build tool, which
>> isn't an ideal tool to build websites with.
>>
>> The ASF has been playing with both a gitpubsub tool and using jeckyll.
>> I'm
>> wondering if we'd be interested in seeing either tool, and decouple the
>> site from the source code?
>>
>> You can see an example of one site here:
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-quarks-website
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:13 PM Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> For me ok. Can we update our hompage today with the current version, so I
>>> can snnounce the release ans start with my infoq article... 😊???
>>> Am 17.04.2016 18:59 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <
>>> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> this is correct and brings up a different question. Which branch should
>>> we
>>> use for the maintainence of the homepage?
>>>
>>> Currently the current version of the homepage is on the master branch,
>>> which is also the current development branch. Therefore the version
>>> number
>>> is set to 0.3...
>>>
>>> I would prefer to maintain the homepage on the master branch because I
>>> didn't expect some one would like to switch to the branch of the latest
>>> release version. WDYT?
>>>
>>> If we decide or at least if no one objects and we would like to maintain
>>> the homepage from the master branch, I would use some property and a
>>> little
>>> bit of white Maven magic to refer to the latest release version and the
>>> current development version.
>>>
>>> In the long run we should be able to reference multiple versions of
>>> Tamaya
>>> from the homepage but this is a different topic.
>>>
>>> Bye,
>>>
>>> Oliver
>>>
>>> Am 17.04.16 um 17:01 schrieb John D. Ament:
>>>
>>> Looks great!
>>> --
>>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>>> P +49 30 44793251
>>> M +49 178 7903538
>>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>>> S oliver.b.fischer
>>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>>
>>>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>
--
*Anatole Tresch*
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*Switzerland, Europe Zurich, GMT+1*
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<http://maketechsimple.wordpress.com/> *
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Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
Hi John,
at the moment I would prefer the current setup, because it coupled with
the project source itself. Most stuff we use for the website has the
same lifecycle as the code itself. Maintaining them in a different
repository seems IMHO more complicated. If there will be a time there we
have a lot of documents and other information which is separate from the
stuff in the code repository, we could and should discuss an other solution.
WDYT?
Oliver
Am 17.04.16 um 19:21 schrieb John D. Ament:
> Yep, so are we sure the setup right now for the website is good?
>
> There's some flaws with it.
>
> - Website docs end up as a part of our source release.
> - Building is very tightly coupled with our source code build tool, which
> isn't an ideal tool to build websites with.
>
> The ASF has been playing with both a gitpubsub tool and using jeckyll. I'm
> wondering if we'd be interested in seeing either tool, and decouple the
> site from the source code?
>
> You can see an example of one site here:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-quarks-website
>
> John
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:13 PM Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For me ok. Can we update our hompage today with the current version, so I
>> can snnounce the release ans start with my infoq article... 😊???
>> Am 17.04.2016 18:59 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> Hi John,
>>
>> this is correct and brings up a different question. Which branch should we
>> use for the maintainence of the homepage?
>>
>> Currently the current version of the homepage is on the master branch,
>> which is also the current development branch. Therefore the version number
>> is set to 0.3...
>>
>> I would prefer to maintain the homepage on the master branch because I
>> didn't expect some one would like to switch to the branch of the latest
>> release version. WDYT?
>>
>> If we decide or at least if no one objects and we would like to maintain
>> the homepage from the master branch, I would use some property and a little
>> bit of white Maven magic to refer to the latest release version and the
>> current development version.
>>
>> In the long run we should be able to reference multiple versions of Tamaya
>> from the homepage but this is a different topic.
>>
>> Bye,
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> Am 17.04.16 um 17:01 schrieb John D. Ament:
>>
>> Looks great!
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Yep, so are we sure the setup right now for the website is good?
There's some flaws with it.
- Website docs end up as a part of our source release.
- Building is very tightly coupled with our source code build tool, which
isn't an ideal tool to build websites with.
The ASF has been playing with both a gitpubsub tool and using jeckyll. I'm
wondering if we'd be interested in seeing either tool, and decouple the
site from the source code?
You can see an example of one site here:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-quarks-website
John
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:13 PM Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For me ok. Can we update our hompage today with the current version, so I
> can snnounce the release ans start with my infoq article... 😊???
> Am 17.04.2016 18:59 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> >:
>
> Hi John,
>
> this is correct and brings up a different question. Which branch should we
> use for the maintainence of the homepage?
>
> Currently the current version of the homepage is on the master branch,
> which is also the current development branch. Therefore the version number
> is set to 0.3...
>
> I would prefer to maintain the homepage on the master branch because I
> didn't expect some one would like to switch to the branch of the latest
> release version. WDYT?
>
> If we decide or at least if no one objects and we would like to maintain
> the homepage from the master branch, I would use some property and a little
> bit of white Maven magic to refer to the latest release version and the
> current development version.
>
> In the long run we should be able to reference multiple versions of Tamaya
> from the homepage but this is a different topic.
>
> Bye,
>
> Oliver
>
> Am 17.04.16 um 17:01 schrieb John D. Ament:
>
> Looks great!
> > One thing to note, it may be better to use 0.2-incubating as the version
> > for the quickstart guide, this way you don't need to build local or point
> > to the snapshot repos.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 10:14 AM Oliver B. Fischer <
> > o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > ... is available at http://www.swe-blog.net/tamaya/
> >>
> >> In the evening I will spend a little bit time more an smaller problems
> >> with the homepage...
> >>
> >> Oliver
> >>
> >> --
> >> N Oliver B. Fischer
> >> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> >> P +49 30 44793251
> >> M +49 178 7903538
> >> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> >> S oliver.b.fischer
> >> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> >> X http://xing.to/obf
> >>
> >>
> >>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com>.
For me ok. Can we update our hompage today with the current version, so I
can snnounce the release ans start with my infoq article... 😊???
Am 17.04.2016 18:59 schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>:
Hi John,
this is correct and brings up a different question. Which branch should we
use for the maintainence of the homepage?
Currently the current version of the homepage is on the master branch,
which is also the current development branch. Therefore the version number
is set to 0.3...
I would prefer to maintain the homepage on the master branch because I
didn't expect some one would like to switch to the branch of the latest
release version. WDYT?
If we decide or at least if no one objects and we would like to maintain
the homepage from the master branch, I would use some property and a little
bit of white Maven magic to refer to the latest release version and the
current development version.
In the long run we should be able to reference multiple versions of Tamaya
from the homepage but this is a different topic.
Bye,
Oliver
Am 17.04.16 um 17:01 schrieb John D. Ament:
Looks great!
> One thing to note, it may be better to use 0.2-incubating as the version
> for the quickstart guide, this way you don't need to build local or point
> to the snapshot repos.
>
> John
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 10:14 AM Oliver B. Fischer <
> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net>
> wrote:
>
> ... is available at http://www.swe-blog.net/tamaya/
>>
>> In the evening I will spend a little bit time more an smaller problems
>> with the homepage...
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
>>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
Hi John,
this is correct and brings up a different question. Which branch should
we use for the maintainence of the homepage?
Currently the current version of the homepage is on the master branch,
which is also the current development branch. Therefore the version
number is set to 0.3...
I would prefer to maintain the homepage on the master branch because I
didn't expect some one would like to switch to the branch of the latest
release version. WDYT?
If we decide or at least if no one objects and we would like to maintain
the homepage from the master branch, I would use some property and a
little bit of white Maven magic to refer to the latest release version
and the current development version.
In the long run we should be able to reference multiple versions of
Tamaya from the homepage but this is a different topic.
Bye,
Oliver
Am 17.04.16 um 17:01 schrieb John D. Ament:
> Looks great!
> One thing to note, it may be better to use 0.2-incubating as the version
> for the quickstart guide, this way you don't need to build local or point
> to the snapshot repos.
>
> John
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 10:14 AM Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
> wrote:
>
>> ... is available at http://www.swe-blog.net/tamaya/
>>
>> In the evening I will spend a little bit time more an smaller problems
>> with the homepage...
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Home page with CSS fix...
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Looks great!
One thing to note, it may be better to use 0.2-incubating as the version
for the quickstart guide, this way you don't need to build local or point
to the snapshot repos.
John
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 10:14 AM Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
wrote:
> ... is available at http://www.swe-blog.net/tamaya/
>
> In the evening I will spend a little bit time more an smaller problems
> with the homepage...
>
> Oliver
>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>