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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> on 2008/12/11 17:55:13 UTC
Grey list in OFBiz [was Re: Discussion: Permissions Checking Enhancement]
I think the phrase "grey list" is easier to speak about this functionnality and easier to understand and remember. So I propose to
use it rather than the tarpit word when speaking about this at large (I will change Entities names, fields, etc. accordinlgly when
appropriate)
As we use a prepocessor, to avoid any bad surprise later, I propose we introduce in site-conf.xsd an attribute allowGrayList in
request-map element. It would work like track-visit and track-serverhit being true by default (though I wonder if we should not do
reverse to false).
Jacques
Re: Grey list in OFBiz [was Re: Discussion: Permissions Checking Enhancement]
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Did not find anything clear, anyway this will not prevent me to sleep at night :o)
Jacques
From: "Adam Heath" <do...@brainfood.com>
> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> From: "Adam Heath" <do...@brainfood.com>
>>
>>> Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>> Maybe we should also decide on whether it is spelled "grey" or
>>>> "gray." ;-)
>>>
>>> Or how about a red-black list?
>>
>> What is a red-black list ? I used grey list because it's something you
>> can easily compare with the concept already used in spam control
>> (tarpitting). We will use an anolog concept here, that's why.
>
> It's a computer scientest joke. Use google. Actually, look for
> red-black list, with the '-'.
>
Re: Grey list in OFBiz [was Re: Discussion: Permissions Checking
Enhancement]
Posted by Adam Heath <do...@brainfood.com>.
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> From: "Adam Heath" <do...@brainfood.com>
>
>> Adrian Crum wrote:
>>> Maybe we should also decide on whether it is spelled "grey" or
>>> "gray." ;-)
>>
>> Or how about a red-black list?
>
> What is a red-black list ? I used grey list because it's something you
> can easily compare with the concept already used in spam control
> (tarpitting). We will use an anolog concept here, that's why.
It's a computer scientest joke. Use google. Actually, look for
red-black list, with the '-'.
Re: Grey list in OFBiz [was Re: Discussion: Permissions Checking Enhancement]
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
From: "Adam Heath" <do...@brainfood.com>
> Adrian Crum wrote:
>> Maybe we should also decide on whether it is spelled "grey" or "gray." ;-)
>
> Or how about a red-black list?
What is a red-black list ? I used grey list because it's something you can easily compare with the concept already used in spam
control (tarpitting). We will use an anolog concept here, that's why.
Jacques
Re: Grey list in OFBiz [was Re: Discussion: Permissions Checking
Enhancement]
Posted by Adam Heath <do...@brainfood.com>.
Adrian Crum wrote:
> Maybe we should also decide on whether it is spelled "grey" or "gray." ;-)
Or how about a red-black list?
Re: Grey list in OFBiz [was Re: Discussion: Permissions Checking Enhancement]
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@hlmksw.com>
> Maybe we should also decide on whether it is spelled "grey" or "gray." ;-)
I fight hard to write correctly grey but as with prodcut most of the time I failed and write gray (here I must say I"m not a
dyslexic). For prodcut I don't know why (though I suspect our hands to be used to the word cut) but have a look at
http://www.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?local=y&forum=2740&query=prodcut : I'm not the only one :D
For gray may be I'm influenced by Scott's name ?
Anyway I have changed my mind and I think it does not make sense to call something grey list at this stage, protected-view seems a
better name. The grey list concept will be at used at the end of the process. When a login is unable to access a view again without
admin intervention.
About the protect-view attribute (was allowGrayList below), I think now that we should better set it to false by default. This will
make the process a bit faster since most of the time views will not be protected. BTW I wrote something to deal with that in
RequestHandler.doRequest but I'm really not satisified by my solution (I hard coded a method name). I put it in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2074 for review. I will try to rewrite it today, suggestions highly appreciated.
Jacques
> -Adrian
>
> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> I think the phrase "grey list" is easier to speak about this functionnality and easier to understand and remember. So I propose
>> to
>> use it rather than the tarpit word when speaking about this at large (I will change Entities names, fields, etc. accordinlgly
>> when appropriate)
>>
>> As we use a prepocessor, to avoid any bad surprise later, I propose we introduce in site-conf.xsd an attribute allowGrayList in
>> request-map element. It would work like track-visit and track-serverhit being true by default (though I wonder if we should not
>> do
>> reverse to false).
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>
Re: Grey list in OFBiz [was Re: Discussion: Permissions Checking Enhancement]
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Thanks Raj,
Finally my English is not so bad :p
Jacques
From: "Raj Saini" <ra...@gmail.com>
> Gray and Grey is same as color and colour.
>
> http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=grey&gwp=13
>
> Thanks,
>
> Raj
>
> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@hlmksw.com>
>>> Maybe we should also decide on whether it is spelled "grey" or
>>> "gray." ;-)
>>
>> I fight hard to write correctly grey but as with prodcut most of the
>> time I failed and write gray (here I must say I"m not a Dyslexic). For
>> prodcut I don't know why (though I suspect our hands to be used to the
>> word cut) but have a look at
>> http://www.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?local=y&forum=2740&query=prodcut
>> : I'm not the only one :D
>>
>> For gray may be I'm influenced by Scott's name ?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>> I think the phrase "grey list" is easier to speak about this
>>>> functionnality and easier to understand and remember. So I propose to
>>>> use it rather than the tarpit word when speaking about this at large
>>>> (I will change Entities names, fields, etc. accordinlgly when
>>>> appropriate)
>>>>
>>>> As we use a prepocessor, to avoid any bad surprise later, I propose
>>>> we introduce in site-conf.xsd an attribute allowGrayList in
>>>> request-map element. It would work like track-visit and
>>>> track-serverhit being true by default (though I wonder if we should
>>>> not do
>>>> reverse to false).
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Grey list in OFBiz [was Re: Discussion: Permissions Checking
Enhancement]
Posted by Raj Saini <ra...@gmail.com>.
Gray and Grey is same as color and colour.
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=grey&gwp=13
Thanks,
Raj
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@hlmksw.com>
>> Maybe we should also decide on whether it is spelled "grey" or
>> "gray." ;-)
>
> I fight hard to write correctly grey but as with prodcut most of the
> time I failed and write gray (here I must say I"m not a Dyslexic). For
> prodcut I don't know why (though I suspect our hands to be used to the
> word cut) but have a look at
> http://www.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?local=y&forum=2740&query=prodcut
> : I'm not the only one :D
>
> For gray may be I'm influenced by Scott's name ?
>
> Jacques
>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>> I think the phrase "grey list" is easier to speak about this
>>> functionnality and easier to understand and remember. So I propose to
>>> use it rather than the tarpit word when speaking about this at large
>>> (I will change Entities names, fields, etc. accordinlgly when
>>> appropriate)
>>>
>>> As we use a prepocessor, to avoid any bad surprise later, I propose
>>> we introduce in site-conf.xsd an attribute allowGrayList in
>>> request-map element. It would work like track-visit and
>>> track-serverhit being true by default (though I wonder if we should
>>> not do
>>> reverse to false).
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grey list in OFBiz [was Re: Discussion: Permissions Checking Enhancement]
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@hlmksw.com>
> Maybe we should also decide on whether it is spelled "grey" or "gray." ;-)
I fight hard to write correctly grey but as with prodcut most of the time I failed and write gray (here I must say I"m not a
Dyslexic). For prodcut I don't know why (though I suspect our hands to be used to the word cut) but have a look at
http://www.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?local=y&forum=2740&query=prodcut : I'm not the only one :D
For gray may be I'm influenced by Scott's name ?
Jacques
> -Adrian
>
> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> I think the phrase "grey list" is easier to speak about this functionnality and easier to understand and remember. So I propose
>> to
>> use it rather than the tarpit word when speaking about this at large (I will change Entities names, fields, etc. accordinlgly
>> when appropriate)
>>
>> As we use a prepocessor, to avoid any bad surprise later, I propose we introduce in site-conf.xsd an attribute allowGrayList in
>> request-map element. It would work like track-visit and track-serverhit being true by default (though I wonder if we should not
>> do
>> reverse to false).
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>
Re: Grey list in OFBiz [was Re: Discussion: Permissions Checking
Enhancement]
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@hlmksw.com>.
Maybe we should also decide on whether it is spelled "grey" or "gray." ;-)
-Adrian
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> I think the phrase "grey list" is easier to speak about this
> functionnality and easier to understand and remember. So I propose to
> use it rather than the tarpit word when speaking about this at large (I
> will change Entities names, fields, etc. accordinlgly when appropriate)
>
> As we use a prepocessor, to avoid any bad surprise later, I propose we
> introduce in site-conf.xsd an attribute allowGrayList in
> request-map element. It would work like track-visit and track-serverhit
> being true by default (though I wonder if we should not do
> reverse to false).
>
> Jacques
>
>