Re: I am having the feeling that VelocyMacros are the shity bitofVelocity

["Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>]

Paulo Gaspar wrote:
> 
> LOL
> I have to admit it was a bit like you say (frustration overdose, I guess).

So speak up earlier.

> Still, the macros are shity at the moment. I can't believe that no one
> else has problems with them.

Maybe they aren't 'shitty'.  I and clients use them all the time, in big
systems, that demand performance, and they work like a charm.  Anakia
depends upon them.  Etc, etc, etc.
 
> The stranger issue was changing a template with a macro while the web
> server was running and then having some changes showing up, but the
> changes inside the macros not being visible at all. Velocity seems to
> cache the macros and not being aware when their source was changed. When
> developing macros that are private to a page, this is quite inconvenient.

Try reading the manual about the various switches.  Things are pretty
flexible.

> For a moment, I was missing FreeMarker.
>

http://freemarker.sourceforge.net/
 
> Have fun,
> Paulo Gaspar

Always do.

geir
 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Stevens [mailto:jon@latchkey.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:10 PM
> >
> >
> > Thanks for taking your pain out on this list. We appreciate it. :-)
> >
> > -jon
> >
> > --
> > "Open source is not available to commercial companies."
> >             -Steve Ballmer, CEO Microsoft
> > <http://www.suntimes.com/output/tech/cst-fin-micro01.html>
> >

-- 
Geir Magnusson Jr.                           geirm@optonline.net
System and Software Consulting
Developing for the web?  See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/
You have a genius for suggesting things I've come a cropper with!

RE: VelocyMacros issues (new and improved thread name)

[Paulo Gaspar <pa...@krankikom.de>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmj@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [mailto:gmj@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net]On
> Behalf Of Geir Magnusson Jr.
>
> Paulo Gaspar wrote:
> >
> > LOL
> > I have to admit it was a bit like you say (frustration
> overdose, I guess).
>
> So speak up earlier.

Explained in prev. posting.


> > Still, the macros are shity at the moment. I can't believe that no one
> > else has problems with them.
>
> Maybe they aren't 'shitty'.  I and clients use them all the time, in big
> systems, that demand performance, and they work like a charm.  Anakia
> depends upon them.  Etc, etc, etc.

Yes, as mentioned in the prev. posting it looks like I use them in a
different way and maybe there is even an interpretation issue.

> > The stranger issue was changing a template with a macro while the web
> > server was running and then having some changes showing up, but the
> > changes inside the macros not being visible at all. Velocity seems to
> > cache the macros and not being aware when their source was changed. When
> > developing macros that are private to a page, this is quite
> inconvenient.
>
> Try reading the manual about the various switches.  Things are pretty
> flexible.

I will do that. But the question about what macros should be global remains.


> > For a moment, I was missing FreeMarker.
>
> http://freemarker.sourceforge.net/

I know, I know. I used it.
Did you notice the "For a moment" bit?

Velocity is the template engine that comes closer to what I need. I am
better helping on fixing what it still misses.


Have fun,
Paulo