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Posted to server-user@james.apache.org by fractals <fr...@ping.be> on 2001/05/14 23:36:03 UTC
I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Now, putting the mailets in the documented way (like in the sample
JAMES.conf.xml: see below), I cannot let my users send mail.
I need more explanations on this !
Now what is clear to me now is that this "anti-spam" mailet prevents spammer
to send mails that are NotInNetwork. It should be clear that this rule
applies when the mails sender is not one of the local users.
My question is very simple:
How do I setup James so that the mails that are written by local users ARE
ALLOWED to be sent outwards, and those which are written by unknown people
get into dev/null.
The mailets in the right order:
<mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1, <here comes my network>"
class="ToProcessor">
<processor> spam </processor>
</mailet>
and:
<mailet match="All" class="RemoteDelivery">
<outgoing> file://../var/mail/outgoing/ </outgoing>
<!-- <outgoing> town://mail-outgoing </outgoing>-->
<delayTime> 21600000 </delayTime>
<maxRetries> 5 </maxRetries>
</mailet>
</processor>
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Re: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Oki DZ <ok...@bdg.pindad.com>.
fractals wrote:
>
> The mailets in the right order:
>
> <mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1, <here comes my network>"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I changed mine to 192.168.1.* and everything was fine; users can send
mail out.
BTW, the attribute of that element is pretty confusing, I think. What is
the actual meaning of "RemoteAddressNotInNetwork?" Who's "Network?"
Mine? Anyway, my correct entry is that to have 192.168.1.*. Does it mean
that 192.168.1.* are the IP numbers of the hosts that are remote and not
in my network? Well, it's the opposite. They are local, and in my
network.
Oki
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Re: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BEABLE TO
SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Charles Benett <ch...@benett1.demon.co.uk>.
Peter Donald wrote:
>
> At 11:40 15/5/01 -0700, Harmeet Bedi wrote:
> >I think James would be richer if it had SMTP AUTH support. It seems to be a
> >well supported extension and could be useful.
> >The RFC is at http://www.innosoft.com/rfc/rfc2554.html
> >Some industry support for this at
> >http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/client.html and
> >http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/server.html
> >
> >What do you think ?
>
> +1
+1 for concept but I haven't any time for this at the moment.
Charles
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Re: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE
ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Peter Donald <do...@apache.org>.
At 11:40 15/5/01 -0700, Harmeet Bedi wrote:
>I think James would be richer if it had SMTP AUTH support. It seems to be a
>well supported extension and could be useful.
>The RFC is at http://www.innosoft.com/rfc/rfc2554.html
>Some industry support for this at
>http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/client.html and
>http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/server.html
>
>What do you think ?
+1
Cheers,
Pete
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Re: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO
SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Oki DZ <ok...@bdg.pindad.com>.
Harmeet Bedi wrote:
>
> I think James would be richer if it had SMTP AUTH support. It seems to be a
> well supported extension and could be useful.
> The RFC is at http://www.innosoft.com/rfc/rfc2554.html
> Some industry support for this at
> http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/client.html and
> http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/server.html
>
> What do you think ?
I haven't visited those links; but I think, it would be great. We can
make sure that the sender addresses are indeed real (not bogus).
BTW, what about the communications among servers. AFAIK, for them to
communicate on port 25 wouldn't need any authentication. It should be
implemented on mailet, right?
> Alec, would you be willing to contribute your SMTP Auth code for this under
> Apache License ?
Yes, Alec please...
Oki
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Re: about SMTP service extensions
Posted by Charles Benett <ch...@benett1.demon.co.uk>.
Alec Yu wrote:
>
> As we (or some of us) know, SMTP comes with service extensions.
> I noticed JAMES not providing any of SMTP service extensions,
> and the SMTP handler did not take service extensions in mind.
>
> If JAMES provides a plug-in style for managing SMTP service extensions,
> it will be great.
>
> Think about this:
> For people who want to provide their own SMTP service extensions,
> they may derive a custom service extension class from the generic one,
> and then code customized SMTP commands in the service extension
> in the derived class.
>
This is a great idea, it just needs someone to di it :-)
Charles
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Benett" <ch...@benett1.demon.co.uk>
> > Alec Yu wrote:
> > > org.apache.james.esmtpserver.ESMTPServer (inherited from the above SMTPServer)
> > > org.apache.james.esmtpserver.ESMTPHandler (inherited from the above SMTPHandler)
> > > org.apache.james.transport.matchers.AuthLogin
> > > org.apache.james.transport.matchers.AuthNotLogin
> > The other thing that would be good would be to combine Matt Pangaro's
> > SizeLimitedSMTPHandler into SMTPHandler with appropriate switches so
> > that it only uses SizeLimitedSMTPStream (and instantiates a mail object)
> > if a limit has been set.
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about SMTP service extensions
Posted by Alec Yu <al...@msa.hinet.net>.
As we (or some of us) know, SMTP comes with service extensions.
I noticed JAMES not providing any of SMTP service extensions,
and the SMTP handler did not take service extensions in mind.
If JAMES provides a plug-in style for managing SMTP service extensions,
it will be great.
Think about this:
For people who want to provide their own SMTP service extensions,
they may derive a custom service extension class from the generic one,
and then code customized SMTP commands in the service extension
in the derived class.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Benett" <ch...@benett1.demon.co.uk>
> Alec Yu wrote:
> > org.apache.james.esmtpserver.ESMTPServer (inherited from the above SMTPServer)
> > org.apache.james.esmtpserver.ESMTPHandler (inherited from the above SMTPHandler)
> > org.apache.james.transport.matchers.AuthLogin
> > org.apache.james.transport.matchers.AuthNotLogin
> The other thing that would be good would be to combine Matt Pangaro's
> SizeLimitedSMTPHandler into SMTPHandler with appropriate switches so
> that it only uses SizeLimitedSMTPStream (and instantiates a mail object)
> if a limit has been set.
Re: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO
SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Charles Benett <ch...@benett1.demon.co.uk>.
Serge Knystautas wrote:
>
> Two quick thoughts before I return to lurking...
>
> 1. ESMTP support sounds great. +1 to incorporating it.
>
> 2. I've been thinking of going into the guts of James to reduce the use of a
> MimeMessage.
>
> Really, the only time we *need* a MimeMessage object is during Mailet
> processing. I remember adding code so that the Mail object only
> instantiates the MimeMessage if a mailet uses the MimeMessage, and this
> speeds things great, but I'm not sure what the state of that is now (whether
> it's only on the database repository or for all types of repositories or
> what).
>
> The areas were we don't need MimeMessage at all are during SMTP receive,
> SMTP delivery, and POP retrieval. We're using MimeMessage because it's a
> easy, but it'd be a lot more efficient (speed, memory, everything) if we
> were using streams to do this and possibly doing some small verification of
> the format.
+1 Agree completely
>
> I don't really have time, but thought I'd bring this up if anybody else was
> thinking about it.
Alas, this also applies to me! There's also several other thing that
need sorting.
Charles
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Re: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Serge Knystautas <se...@lokitech.com>.
Two quick thoughts before I return to lurking...
1. ESMTP support sounds great. +1 to incorporating it.
2. I've been thinking of going into the guts of James to reduce the use of a
MimeMessage.
Really, the only time we *need* a MimeMessage object is during Mailet
processing. I remember adding code so that the Mail object only
instantiates the MimeMessage if a mailet uses the MimeMessage, and this
speeds things great, but I'm not sure what the state of that is now (whether
it's only on the database repository or for all types of repositories or
what).
The areas were we don't need MimeMessage at all are during SMTP receive,
SMTP delivery, and POP retrieval. We're using MimeMessage because it's a
easy, but it'd be a lot more efficient (speed, memory, everything) if we
were using streams to do this and possibly doing some small verification of
the format.
I don't really have time, but thought I'd bring this up if anybody else was
thinking about it.
Serge Knystautas
Loki Technologies
http://www.lokitech.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Benett" <ch...@benett1.demon.co.uk>
To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE
TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
> Alec Yu wrote:
> >
> > I use VSS in my office, and never used CVS. Smirk.
> > (still figuring how to play with CVS...)
> >
> > Related source files in http://legendzone.org/james121-patch.zip.
> > Following classes modified: (I've included a diff-list.txt to tell where
did I modify in these classes)
> > org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPServer (with some fields changed
from Private to Protected)
> > org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPHandler (with some fields changed
from Private to Protected,
> >
plus a createMailHeader() )
> > org.apache.james.James (added "import
org.apache.james.esmtpserver.* and
> >
modified "new SMTPServer(...) to new ESMTPServer(...)"
> >
> > 4 classes added:
> > org.apache.james.esmtpserver.ESMTPServer (inherited from the above
SMTPServer)
> > org.apache.james.esmtpserver.ESMTPHandler (inherited from the above
SMTPHandler)
> > org.apache.james.transport.matchers.AuthLogin
> > org.apache.james.transport.matchers.AuthNotLogin
>
> Great! Thanks, Alec.
> I haven't got time to do this at the moment but maybe Harmeet will?
> The other thing that would be good would be to combine Matt Pangaro's
> SizeLimitedSMTPHandler into SMTPHandler with appropriate switches so
> that it only uses SizeLimitedSMTPStream (and instantiates a mail object)
> if a limit has been set.
> Charles
>
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harmeet Bedi" <hb...@yahoo.com>
> > To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>; <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:40 PM
> > Subject: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE
TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
> >
> > > I think James would be richer if it had SMTP AUTH support. It seems to
be a
> > > well supported extension and could be useful.
> > > The RFC is at http://www.innosoft.com/rfc/rfc2554.html
> > > Some industry support for this at
> > > http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/client.html and
> > > http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/server.html
> > >
> > > What do you think ?
> > >
> > > Alec, would you be willing to contribute your SMTP Auth code for this
under
> > > Apache License ?
> > >
> > > Harmeet
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alec Yu" <al...@eland.com.tw>
> > > To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:01 AM
> > > Subject: Re: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've developed 2 mailets to allow authentication via SMTP service
> > > extension of "AUTH LOGIN";
> > > > but the mailet reqires cooperation of some modified code in
> > > org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPHandler.
> > > >
> > > > One of these 2 mailets named "AuthLogin", checks if the mail sending
user
> > > logged in as some JAMES user;
> > > > the other, named "AuthNotLogin", checks if the mail sending user not
> > > logged as some JAMES user.
> > > >
> > > > To allow your users to send mail with Outlook/Outlook express SMTP
login
> > > feature,
> > > > what you need to do is to change the spam check matcher from
NotInNetwork
> > > to
> > > > AuthNotLogin.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "fractals" <fr...@ping.be>
> > > > To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:36 AM
> > > > Subject: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Now, putting the mailets in the documented way (like in the sample
> > > > > JAMES.conf.xml: see below), I cannot let my users send mail.
> > > > >
> > > > > I need more explanations on this !
> > > > >
> > > > > Now what is clear to me now is that this "anti-spam" mailet
prevents
> > > spammer
> > > > > to send mails that are NotInNetwork. It should be clear that this
rule
> > > > > applies when the mails sender is not one of the local users.
> > > > >
> > > > > My question is very simple:
> > > > >
> > > > > How do I setup James so that the mails that are written by local
users
> > > ARE
> > > > > ALLOWED to be sent outwards, and those which are written by
unknown
> > > people
> > > > > get into dev/null.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The mailets in the right order:
> > > > >
> > > > > <mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1, <here comes my
> > > network>"
> > > > > class="ToProcessor">
> > > > > <processor> spam </processor>
> > > > > </mailet>
> > > > >
> > > > > and:
> > > > >
> > > > > <mailet match="All" class="RemoteDelivery">
> > > > > <outgoing> file://../var/mail/outgoing/ </outgoing>
> > > > > <!-- <outgoing> town://mail-outgoing </outgoing>-->
> > > > > <delayTime> 21600000 </delayTime>
> > > > > <maxRetries> 5 </maxRetries>
> > > > > </mailet>
> > > > > </processor>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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Re: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO
SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Charles Benett <ch...@benett1.demon.co.uk>.
Alec Yu wrote:
>
> I use VSS in my office, and never used CVS. Smirk.
> (still figuring how to play with CVS...)
>
> Related source files in http://legendzone.org/james121-patch.zip.
> Following classes modified: (I've included a diff-list.txt to tell where did I modify in these classes)
> org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPServer (with some fields changed from Private to Protected)
> org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPHandler (with some fields changed from Private to Protected,
> plus a createMailHeader() )
> org.apache.james.James (added "import org.apache.james.esmtpserver.* and
> modified "new SMTPServer(...) to new ESMTPServer(...)"
>
> 4 classes added:
> org.apache.james.esmtpserver.ESMTPServer (inherited from the above SMTPServer)
> org.apache.james.esmtpserver.ESMTPHandler (inherited from the above SMTPHandler)
> org.apache.james.transport.matchers.AuthLogin
> org.apache.james.transport.matchers.AuthNotLogin
Great! Thanks, Alec.
I haven't got time to do this at the moment but maybe Harmeet will?
The other thing that would be good would be to combine Matt Pangaro's
SizeLimitedSMTPHandler into SMTPHandler with appropriate switches so
that it only uses SizeLimitedSMTPStream (and instantiates a mail object)
if a limit has been set.
Charles
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harmeet Bedi" <hb...@yahoo.com>
> To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>; <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:40 PM
> Subject: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
>
> > I think James would be richer if it had SMTP AUTH support. It seems to be a
> > well supported extension and could be useful.
> > The RFC is at http://www.innosoft.com/rfc/rfc2554.html
> > Some industry support for this at
> > http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/client.html and
> > http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/server.html
> >
> > What do you think ?
> >
> > Alec, would you be willing to contribute your SMTP Auth code for this under
> > Apache License ?
> >
> > Harmeet
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alec Yu" <al...@eland.com.tw>
> > To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
> >
> >
> > > I've developed 2 mailets to allow authentication via SMTP service
> > extension of "AUTH LOGIN";
> > > but the mailet reqires cooperation of some modified code in
> > org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPHandler.
> > >
> > > One of these 2 mailets named "AuthLogin", checks if the mail sending user
> > logged in as some JAMES user;
> > > the other, named "AuthNotLogin", checks if the mail sending user not
> > logged as some JAMES user.
> > >
> > > To allow your users to send mail with Outlook/Outlook express SMTP login
> > feature,
> > > what you need to do is to change the spam check matcher from NotInNetwork
> > to
> > > AuthNotLogin.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "fractals" <fr...@ping.be>
> > > To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:36 AM
> > > Subject: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Now, putting the mailets in the documented way (like in the sample
> > > > JAMES.conf.xml: see below), I cannot let my users send mail.
> > > >
> > > > I need more explanations on this !
> > > >
> > > > Now what is clear to me now is that this "anti-spam" mailet prevents
> > spammer
> > > > to send mails that are NotInNetwork. It should be clear that this rule
> > > > applies when the mails sender is not one of the local users.
> > > >
> > > > My question is very simple:
> > > >
> > > > How do I setup James so that the mails that are written by local users
> > ARE
> > > > ALLOWED to be sent outwards, and those which are written by unknown
> > people
> > > > get into dev/null.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The mailets in the right order:
> > > >
> > > > <mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1, <here comes my
> > network>"
> > > > class="ToProcessor">
> > > > <processor> spam </processor>
> > > > </mailet>
> > > >
> > > > and:
> > > >
> > > > <mailet match="All" class="RemoteDelivery">
> > > > <outgoing> file://../var/mail/outgoing/ </outgoing>
> > > > <!-- <outgoing> town://mail-outgoing </outgoing>-->
> > > > <delayTime> 21600000 </delayTime>
> > > > <maxRetries> 5 </maxRetries>
> > > > </mailet>
> > > > </processor>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Alec Yu <al...@msa.hinet.net>.
I use VSS in my office, and never used CVS. Smirk.
(still figuring how to play with CVS...)
Related source files in http://legendzone.org/james121-patch.zip.
Following classes modified: (I've included a diff-list.txt to tell where did I modify in these classes)
org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPServer (with some fields changed from Private to Protected)
org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPHandler (with some fields changed from Private to Protected,
plus a createMailHeader() )
org.apache.james.James (added "import org.apache.james.esmtpserver.* and
modified "new SMTPServer(...) to new ESMTPServer(...)"
4 classes added:
org.apache.james.esmtpserver.ESMTPServer (inherited from the above SMTPServer)
org.apache.james.esmtpserver.ESMTPHandler (inherited from the above SMTPHandler)
org.apache.james.transport.matchers.AuthLogin
org.apache.james.transport.matchers.AuthNotLogin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harmeet Bedi" <hb...@yahoo.com>
To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>; <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:40 PM
Subject: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
> I think James would be richer if it had SMTP AUTH support. It seems to be a
> well supported extension and could be useful.
> The RFC is at http://www.innosoft.com/rfc/rfc2554.html
> Some industry support for this at
> http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/client.html and
> http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/server.html
>
> What do you think ?
>
> Alec, would you be willing to contribute your SMTP Auth code for this under
> Apache License ?
>
> Harmeet
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alec Yu" <al...@eland.com.tw>
> To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:01 AM
> Subject: Re: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
>
>
> > I've developed 2 mailets to allow authentication via SMTP service
> extension of "AUTH LOGIN";
> > but the mailet reqires cooperation of some modified code in
> org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPHandler.
> >
> > One of these 2 mailets named "AuthLogin", checks if the mail sending user
> logged in as some JAMES user;
> > the other, named "AuthNotLogin", checks if the mail sending user not
> logged as some JAMES user.
> >
> > To allow your users to send mail with Outlook/Outlook express SMTP login
> feature,
> > what you need to do is to change the spam check matcher from NotInNetwork
> to
> > AuthNotLogin.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "fractals" <fr...@ping.be>
> > To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:36 AM
> > Subject: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
> >
> >
> > > Now, putting the mailets in the documented way (like in the sample
> > > JAMES.conf.xml: see below), I cannot let my users send mail.
> > >
> > > I need more explanations on this !
> > >
> > > Now what is clear to me now is that this "anti-spam" mailet prevents
> spammer
> > > to send mails that are NotInNetwork. It should be clear that this rule
> > > applies when the mails sender is not one of the local users.
> > >
> > > My question is very simple:
> > >
> > > How do I setup James so that the mails that are written by local users
> ARE
> > > ALLOWED to be sent outwards, and those which are written by unknown
> people
> > > get into dev/null.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The mailets in the right order:
> > >
> > > <mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1, <here comes my
> network>"
> > > class="ToProcessor">
> > > <processor> spam </processor>
> > > </mailet>
> > >
> > > and:
> > >
> > > <mailet match="All" class="RemoteDelivery">
> > > <outgoing> file://../var/mail/outgoing/ </outgoing>
> > > <!-- <outgoing> town://mail-outgoing </outgoing>-->
> > > <delayTime> 21600000 </delayTime>
> > > <maxRetries> 5 </maxRetries>
> > > </mailet>
> > > </processor>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO
SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Oki DZ <ok...@bdg.pindad.com>.
Harmeet Bedi wrote:
>
> I think James would be richer if it had SMTP AUTH support. It seems to be a
> well supported extension and could be useful.
> The RFC is at http://www.innosoft.com/rfc/rfc2554.html
> Some industry support for this at
> http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/client.html and
> http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/server.html
>
> What do you think ?
I haven't visited those links; but I think, it would be great. We can
make sure that the sender addresses are indeed real (not bogus).
BTW, what about the communications among servers. AFAIK, for them to
communicate on port 25 wouldn't need any authentication. It should be
implemented on mailet, right?
> Alec, would you be willing to contribute your SMTP Auth code for this under
> Apache License ?
Yes, Alec please...
Oki
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Re: proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE
ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Peter Donald <do...@apache.org>.
At 11:40 15/5/01 -0700, Harmeet Bedi wrote:
>I think James would be richer if it had SMTP AUTH support. It seems to be a
>well supported extension and could be useful.
>The RFC is at http://www.innosoft.com/rfc/rfc2554.html
>Some industry support for this at
>http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/client.html and
>http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/server.html
>
>What do you think ?
+1
Cheers,
Pete
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proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Harmeet Bedi <hb...@yahoo.com>.
I think James would be richer if it had SMTP AUTH support. It seems to be a
well supported extension and could be useful.
The RFC is at http://www.innosoft.com/rfc/rfc2554.html
Some industry support for this at
http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/client.html and
http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/server.html
What do you think ?
Alec, would you be willing to contribute your SMTP Auth code for this under
Apache License ?
Harmeet
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alec Yu" <al...@eland.com.tw>
To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
> I've developed 2 mailets to allow authentication via SMTP service
extension of "AUTH LOGIN";
> but the mailet reqires cooperation of some modified code in
org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPHandler.
>
> One of these 2 mailets named "AuthLogin", checks if the mail sending user
logged in as some JAMES user;
> the other, named "AuthNotLogin", checks if the mail sending user not
logged as some JAMES user.
>
> To allow your users to send mail with Outlook/Outlook express SMTP login
feature,
> what you need to do is to change the spam check matcher from NotInNetwork
to
> AuthNotLogin.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fractals" <fr...@ping.be>
> To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:36 AM
> Subject: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
>
>
> > Now, putting the mailets in the documented way (like in the sample
> > JAMES.conf.xml: see below), I cannot let my users send mail.
> >
> > I need more explanations on this !
> >
> > Now what is clear to me now is that this "anti-spam" mailet prevents
spammer
> > to send mails that are NotInNetwork. It should be clear that this rule
> > applies when the mails sender is not one of the local users.
> >
> > My question is very simple:
> >
> > How do I setup James so that the mails that are written by local users
ARE
> > ALLOWED to be sent outwards, and those which are written by unknown
people
> > get into dev/null.
> >
> >
> >
> > The mailets in the right order:
> >
> > <mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1, <here comes my
network>"
> > class="ToProcessor">
> > <processor> spam </processor>
> > </mailet>
> >
> > and:
> >
> > <mailet match="All" class="RemoteDelivery">
> > <outgoing> file://../var/mail/outgoing/ </outgoing>
> > <!-- <outgoing> town://mail-outgoing </outgoing>-->
> > <delayTime> 21600000 </delayTime>
> > <maxRetries> 5 </maxRetries>
> > </mailet>
> > </processor>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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proposal: add SMTP AUTH support was: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Harmeet Bedi <hb...@yahoo.com>.
I think James would be richer if it had SMTP AUTH support. It seems to be a
well supported extension and could be useful.
The RFC is at http://www.innosoft.com/rfc/rfc2554.html
Some industry support for this at
http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/client.html and
http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/server.html
What do you think ?
Alec, would you be willing to contribute your SMTP Auth code for this under
Apache License ?
Harmeet
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alec Yu" <al...@eland.com.tw>
To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
> I've developed 2 mailets to allow authentication via SMTP service
extension of "AUTH LOGIN";
> but the mailet reqires cooperation of some modified code in
org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPHandler.
>
> One of these 2 mailets named "AuthLogin", checks if the mail sending user
logged in as some JAMES user;
> the other, named "AuthNotLogin", checks if the mail sending user not
logged as some JAMES user.
>
> To allow your users to send mail with Outlook/Outlook express SMTP login
feature,
> what you need to do is to change the spam check matcher from NotInNetwork
to
> AuthNotLogin.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fractals" <fr...@ping.be>
> To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:36 AM
> Subject: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
>
>
> > Now, putting the mailets in the documented way (like in the sample
> > JAMES.conf.xml: see below), I cannot let my users send mail.
> >
> > I need more explanations on this !
> >
> > Now what is clear to me now is that this "anti-spam" mailet prevents
spammer
> > to send mails that are NotInNetwork. It should be clear that this rule
> > applies when the mails sender is not one of the local users.
> >
> > My question is very simple:
> >
> > How do I setup James so that the mails that are written by local users
ARE
> > ALLOWED to be sent outwards, and those which are written by unknown
people
> > get into dev/null.
> >
> >
> >
> > The mailets in the right order:
> >
> > <mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1, <here comes my
network>"
> > class="ToProcessor">
> > <processor> spam </processor>
> > </mailet>
> >
> > and:
> >
> > <mailet match="All" class="RemoteDelivery">
> > <outgoing> file://../var/mail/outgoing/ </outgoing>
> > <!-- <outgoing> town://mail-outgoing </outgoing>-->
> > <delayTime> 21600000 </delayTime>
> > <maxRetries> 5 </maxRetries>
> > </mailet>
> > </processor>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
Posted by Alec Yu <al...@eland.com.tw>.
I've developed 2 mailets to allow authentication via SMTP service extension of "AUTH LOGIN";
but the mailet reqires cooperation of some modified code in org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPHandler.
One of these 2 mailets named "AuthLogin", checks if the mail sending user logged in as some JAMES user;
the other, named "AuthNotLogin", checks if the mail sending user not logged as some JAMES user.
To allow your users to send mail with Outlook/Outlook express SMTP login feature,
what you need to do is to change the spam check matcher from NotInNetwork to
AuthNotLogin.
----- Original Message -----
From: "fractals" <fr...@ping.be>
To: <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:36 AM
Subject: I WANT MY USERS TO BE ABLE TO SEND MAIL (SIGH)
> Now, putting the mailets in the documented way (like in the sample
> JAMES.conf.xml: see below), I cannot let my users send mail.
>
> I need more explanations on this !
>
> Now what is clear to me now is that this "anti-spam" mailet prevents spammer
> to send mails that are NotInNetwork. It should be clear that this rule
> applies when the mails sender is not one of the local users.
>
> My question is very simple:
>
> How do I setup James so that the mails that are written by local users ARE
> ALLOWED to be sent outwards, and those which are written by unknown people
> get into dev/null.
>
>
>
> The mailets in the right order:
>
> <mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1, <here comes my network>"
> class="ToProcessor">
> <processor> spam </processor>
> </mailet>
>
> and:
>
> <mailet match="All" class="RemoteDelivery">
> <outgoing> file://../var/mail/outgoing/ </outgoing>
> <!-- <outgoing> town://mail-outgoing </outgoing>-->
> <delayTime> 21600000 </delayTime>
> <maxRetries> 5 </maxRetries>
> </mailet>
> </processor>
>
>
>
>
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