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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com> on 2018/11/11 18:23:08 UTC
Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Turn DHCP back on, then you will have an IP address to which you can
forward traffic.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 09:02 georg chambert <georg.chambert@telia.com wrote:
> Hi again,
> back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
>
> It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv
> my
> server with an IP address
> the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it
> should
> have DHCP served my server with.....
>
> when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant for
> port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
> for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill
> in
> for DynDNS.
> ( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I
> think
> should suffice more than enough but not)
>
> so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Freek de Kruijf" <f....@gmail.com>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
>
>
> > Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef
> georg.chambert@telia.com:
> >> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
> >> without
> >> IP address (ie not even the local net)
> >
> > Right.
> >
> >> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add
> >> new
> >> IPv4 port mapping" ):
> >>
> >> IPv4 Port forwarding table
> >>
> >> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
> > MAC
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
> >> (which
> >> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
> >
> > Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
> > restarts,
> > so you can use that address as Destination.
> > For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the
> internal
> > port
> > 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward 433
> > to
> > 433.
> >
> > --
> > fr.gr.
> >
> > Freek de Kruijf
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by georg chambert <ge...@telia.com>.
No actually those fields are for the "UPnP" which too me is strange language, otherwise, as you say, the fields
mach what should be expected from a port mapping. (possibly the GUI designer at technicolor wasnt sober :(
well it confused me a bit at least.
so now, I will check if ive turned off the DHCP, that could actually be the case...... (memory is not my strong suit)
tnx be back
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathon Koyle
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Also, UPnP isn't something you should need... From your earlier message, you listed the needed fields, have you found a different page with different fields?
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 11:23 Jonathon Koyle <litereader@gmail.com wrote:
Turn DHCP back on, then you will have an IP address to which you can forward traffic.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 09:02 georg chambert <georg.chambert@telia.com wrote:
Hi again,
back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv my
server with an IP address
the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it should
have DHCP served my server with.....
when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant for
port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill in
for DynDNS.
( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I think
should suffice more than enough but not)
so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freek de Kruijf" <f....@gmail.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
> Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef georg.chambert@telia.com:
>> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
>> without
>> IP address (ie not even the local net)
>
> Right.
>
>> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add
>> new
>> IPv4 port mapping" ):
>>
>> IPv4 Port forwarding table
>>
>> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
> MAC
>>
>>
>>
>> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
>> (which
>> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>
> Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
> restarts,
> so you can use that address as Destination.
> For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the internal
> port
> 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward 433
> to
> 433.
>
> --
> fr.gr.
>
> Freek de Kruijf
>
>
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by "georg.chambert@telia.com" <ge...@telia.com>.
HI , yes that should be so, in todays computing nothing really is what it should,
at least for me, I wanted eth0, but there seem to be an em1, but i cant find a script for it (under network-scripts or under networking/devices)......
well I found something called NMCLI (of cause the issue must be simplified instead of clearly documented.. no edit docs...) that WORKED (hurray)
where i could do "NMCLI dev" to get a list were em1 was disconnected .....(but NMCLI didnt work as dockumented on what i found on the net)
(well the i/f has worked before my switch to technicolor.... so why now disconnected, possibly I have touched something)
also i could not find any file at all under /etc/sysconfigs/networking/devices empty.... (would have expected the file you mention, but for elsewhere, like)
and i found some ifup-eth (under network-scripts) but the script wouldnt take ( running it by ./ifup-eth em1 )
well then i found the GUI based Network Manager APP on fedora, so open that, and all for "automatic" IP4 allocation seemed ok (! while not working)
so I thought Id try "manual" instead, and set up the modem/router-techicolor to a fixed IP4, and made the portmapping according, fine, that took
since I now had an IP address.......
then I enter the IP address in the fedora-app; well all fine, until i should save the config; only the cancel option lit up, no matter what....
tried all doors, all leading nowhere....
tnx for support
/georg
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Ämne : Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
The file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/{interface-name} might look something like:
DEVICE={interface-name}
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
ONBOOT=yes
If it already looks like that, run
sudo sysctl restart network
And then check if config again.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 12:11 georg chambert <
georg.chambert@telia.com wrote:
ok, checked, the "technicolor" telia modem/router has a "local network" tag under which DHPC server is set to ON,
but no IPv4 given to my server (a fedora with the apache), as seen through ifconfig
(my linux is not very strong; what would be command to check fedoras DHCP activities...)
/georg
----- Original Message -----
From:
Jonathon Koyle
To:
users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Also, UPnP isn't something you should need... From your earlier message, you listed the needed fields, have you found a different page with different fields?
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 11:23 Jonathon Koyle <
litereader@gmail.com wrote:
Turn DHCP back on, then you will have an IP address to which you can forward traffic.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 09:02 georg chambert <
georg.chambert@telia.com wrote:
Hi again,
back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv my
server with an IP address
the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it should
have DHCP served my server with.....
when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant for
port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill in
for DynDNS.
( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I think
should suffice more than enough but not)
so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freek de Kruijf" <
f.de.kruijf@gmail.com>
To: <
users@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
> Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef
georg.chambert@telia.com:
>> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
>> without
>> IP address (ie not even the local net)
>
> Right.
>
>> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add
>> new
>> IPv4 port mapping" ):
>>
>> IPv4 Port forwarding table
>>
>> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
> MAC
>>
>>
>>
>> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
>> (which
>> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>
> Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
> restarts,
> so you can use that address as Destination.
> For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the internal
> port
> 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward 433
> to
> 433.
>
> --
>
fr.gr.
>
> Freek de Kruijf
>
>
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>.
The file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/{interface-name} might look
something like:
DEVICE={interface-name}
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
ONBOOT=yes
If it already looks like that, run
sudo sysctl restart network
And then check if config again.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 12:11 georg chambert <georg.chambert@telia.com wrote:
> ok, checked, the "technicolor" telia modem/router has a "local network"
> tag under which DHPC server is set to ON,
> but no IPv4 given to my server (a fedora with the apache), as seen through
> ifconfig
> (my linux is not very strong; what would be command to check fedoras DHCP
> activities...)
>
> /georg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 11, 2018 7:25 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
>
> Also, UPnP isn't something you should need... From your earlier message,
> you listed the needed fields, have you found a different page with
> different fields?
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 11:23 Jonathon Koyle <litereader@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Turn DHCP back on, then you will have an IP address to which you can
>> forward traffic.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 09:02 georg chambert <georg.chambert@telia.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again,
>>> back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
>>>
>>> It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv
>>> my
>>> server with an IP address
>>> the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it
>>> should
>>> have DHCP served my server with.....
>>>
>>> when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant
>>> for
>>> port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
>>> for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill
>>> in
>>> for DynDNS.
>>> ( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I
>>> think
>>> should suffice more than enough but not)
>>>
>>> so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Freek de Kruijf" <f....@gmail.com>
>>> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
>>>
>>>
>>> > Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef
>>> georg.chambert@telia.com:
>>> >> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
>>> >> without
>>> >> IP address (ie not even the local net)
>>> >
>>> > Right.
>>> >
>>> >> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+
>>> Add
>>> >> new
>>> >> IPv4 port mapping" ):
>>> >>
>>> >> IPv4 Port forwarding table
>>> >>
>>> >> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
>>> > MAC
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
>>> >> (which
>>> >> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>>> >
>>> > Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
>>> > restarts,
>>> > so you can use that address as Destination.
>>> > For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the
>>> internal
>>> > port
>>> > 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward
>>> 433
>>> > to
>>> > 433.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > fr.gr.
>>> >
>>> > Freek de Kruijf
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@httpd.apache.org
>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@httpd.apache.org
>>> >
>>>
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>>>
Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by georg chambert <ge...@telia.com>.
ok, checked, the "technicolor" telia modem/router has a "local network" tag under which DHPC server is set to ON,
but no IPv4 given to my server (a fedora with the apache), as seen through ifconfig
(my linux is not very strong; what would be command to check fedoras DHCP activities...)
/georg
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathon Koyle
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Also, UPnP isn't something you should need... From your earlier message, you listed the needed fields, have you found a different page with different fields?
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 11:23 Jonathon Koyle <litereader@gmail.com wrote:
Turn DHCP back on, then you will have an IP address to which you can forward traffic.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 09:02 georg chambert <georg.chambert@telia.com wrote:
Hi again,
back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv my
server with an IP address
the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it should
have DHCP served my server with.....
when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant for
port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill in
for DynDNS.
( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I think
should suffice more than enough but not)
so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freek de Kruijf" <f....@gmail.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
> Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef georg.chambert@telia.com:
>> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
>> without
>> IP address (ie not even the local net)
>
> Right.
>
>> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add
>> new
>> IPv4 port mapping" ):
>>
>> IPv4 Port forwarding table
>>
>> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
> MAC
>>
>>
>>
>> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
>> (which
>> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>
> Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
> restarts,
> so you can use that address as Destination.
> For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the internal
> port
> 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward 433
> to
> 433.
>
> --
> fr.gr.
>
> Freek de Kruijf
>
>
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>.
Also, UPnP isn't something you should need... From your earlier message,
you listed the needed fields, have you found a different page with
different fields?
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 11:23 Jonathon Koyle <litereader@gmail.com wrote:
> Turn DHCP back on, then you will have an IP address to which you can
> forward traffic.
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 09:02 georg chambert <georg.chambert@telia.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hi again,
>> back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
>>
>> It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv
>> my
>> server with an IP address
>> the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it
>> should
>> have DHCP served my server with.....
>>
>> when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant
>> for
>> port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
>> for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill
>> in
>> for DynDNS.
>> ( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I
>> think
>> should suffice more than enough but not)
>>
>> so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Freek de Kruijf" <f....@gmail.com>
>> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
>>
>>
>> > Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef
>> georg.chambert@telia.com:
>> >> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
>> >> without
>> >> IP address (ie not even the local net)
>> >
>> > Right.
>> >
>> >> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+
>> Add
>> >> new
>> >> IPv4 port mapping" ):
>> >>
>> >> IPv4 Port forwarding table
>> >>
>> >> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
>> > MAC
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
>> >> (which
>> >> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>> >
>> > Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
>> > restarts,
>> > so you can use that address as Destination.
>> > For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the
>> internal
>> > port
>> > 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward
>> 433
>> > to
>> > 433.
>> >
>> > --
>> > fr.gr.
>> >
>> > Freek de Kruijf
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >
>>
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