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Posted to issues@openoffice.apache.org by bu...@apache.org on 2015/02/03 17:09:06 UTC

[Issue 126079] New: Improving text+frames flow

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126079

          Issue ID: 126079
        Issue Type: DEFECT
           Summary: Improving text+frames flow
           Product: Writer
           Version: 4.1.1
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: formatting
          Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
          Reporter: pehache.7@gmail.com

Hi,

Let's assume the following situation :

Page 1
* Paragraph 1
* Frame (anchored as character, so non-floatting)
* Paragraph 2

If all of this is progressively shifted down, at a moment there is no longer
enough space for the Frame on the page 1, and we get :

Page 1
* Paragraph 1
* (empty space)
Page 2
* Frame 
* Paragraph 2

Instead, I would like the same behavior than can be found in LaTeX or
FrameMaker:

Page 1
* Paragraph 1
* beginning of Paragraph 2
Page 2
* Frame 
* end of paragraph 2 (if applicable)

And it has to be fully automatic, without manual adjustment, whatever the
modifications that can shift up or down this sequence.

I've tried all possible combinations of anchoring/text adaption in the frame
settings, but none of them does. After investigations on forums, it looks like
it's simply not possible (and it is not possible neither in Open Office nor in
MS Office).

This features is actually a must-have for long technical documents that include
many figures, tables, etc...

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[Issue 126079] Improving text+frames flow

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oooforum <oo...@free.fr> changed:

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--- Comment #5 from oooforum <oo...@free.fr> ---
I don't see what this enhancement can do.
For long documents, you could use master document.
To dispose some text and image, you can use a table.

Could you provide a sample file (PDF) to show this?

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[Issue 126079] Improving text+frames flow

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
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--- Comment #4 from pehache.7@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #1)
> 
> If you want, that the surrounding text floats before the frame, then "anchor
> as character" is surely wrong. "anchor as character" means that the frame is
> treated as character. And you would not expect that a character moves from
> the beginning of a paragraph to the middle of a paragraph, when there
> happens to be a page break.

Sure... The issue is indeed that there is currently no anchoring option that
can produce the behavior that I expect.

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--- Comment #2 from pehache.7@gmail.com ---
The belongs to its own paragraph, so between paragraphs 1 and 2 there is indeed
another paragraph that contains a single "character" (the frame).

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[Issue 126079] Improving text+frames flow

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Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de> ---
The description is not exact enough. You do not tell to which paragraph this
frame-character belongs. Is it a character of paragraph 1 or a character of
paragraph 2 or is it a character of a paragraph between paragraph 1 and
paragraph 2?

If you want, that the surrounding text floats before the frame, then "anchor as
character" is surely wrong. "anchor as character" means that the frame is
treated as character. And you would not expect that a character moves from the
beginning of a paragraph to the middle of a paragraph, when there happens to be
a page break.

There exist still problems in handling page breaks, see bug 101976 and bug
10634.

Nevertheless, your wish for something like "vertical optimal" is valid. I set
issue type to enhancement.

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--- Comment #7 from pehache.7@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 84485
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Detailed description of the desired enhancement

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--- Comment #6 from Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de> ---
Created attachment 84484
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Example of the desired text flow

It is common practice. In the attached scan you can see, that "Figure 2-6"
belongs to the second last paragraph of page 61. The figure itself is at top of
page 62 because it does not fit under its paragraph on page 61. The empty space
after the second last paragraph of page 61 is filled with the next paragraph.

Getting such text flow automatically, would be a useful enhancement.

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--- Comment #3 from pehache.7@gmail.com ---
(In reply to pehache.7 from comment #2)
> The belongs... 

The *frame* belongs...

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