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Posted to server-user@james.apache.org by Mark Imel <mi...@imelshire.com> on 2003/02/04 06:18:38 UTC
Open Relay
I'm a new james user, and i prematurely submitted my site to http://ordb.org for what i thought was just testing to see if my mail server was an open relay.
Not only did they report me as an Open Relay, but i've been added to some sort of OpenRelay database.
I immediately checked the FAQs on James and found this link: http://james.apache.org/FAQ.html#2
I understand that James will indeed block Open Relay types of Spam, but is there a way for me to convince http://ordb.org that my mail server isn't an OpenRelay with James?
Thanks,
--mark imel
Re: Open Relay
Posted by Mark Imel <mi...@imelshire.com>.
Well that's good news. If it's a config problem, then i can fix it.
Thanks for the help.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:52 PM
Subject: RE: Open Relay
> I just received my test message back.
>
> 04/02/03 00:48:27 INFO smtpserver: Connection from
> 12-228-76-244.client.attbi.com (12.228.76.244)
> 04/02/03 00:48:28 INFO smtpserver: Successfully spooled mail from
> spamtest@imelshire.com for [noel@devtech.com]
> 04/02/03 00:48:28 INFO James.Mailet: ToRepository: Storing mail
> Mail1044337708314-33833 in file://var/mail/spam/
>
> As you can see, your system did send me the message that I sent manually
> through your server. Seems that you have a configuration error.
>
> --- Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Imel [mailto:mimel@imelshire.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 0:19
> To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Open Relay
>
>
> I'm a new james user, and i prematurely submitted my site to
http://ordb.org
> for what i thought was just testing to see if my mail server was an open
> relay.
>
> Not only did they report me as an Open Relay, but i've been added to some
> sort of OpenRelay database.
>
> I immediately checked the FAQs on James and found this link:
> http://james.apache.org/FAQ.html#2
>
> I understand that James will indeed block Open Relay types of Spam, but is
> there a way for me to convince http://ordb.org that my mail server isn't
an
> OpenRelay with James?
>
> Thanks,
> --mark imel
>
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RE: Open Relay
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
I just received my test message back.
04/02/03 00:48:27 INFO smtpserver: Connection from
12-228-76-244.client.attbi.com (12.228.76.244)
04/02/03 00:48:28 INFO smtpserver: Successfully spooled mail from
spamtest@imelshire.com for [noel@devtech.com]
04/02/03 00:48:28 INFO James.Mailet: ToRepository: Storing mail
Mail1044337708314-33833 in file://var/mail/spam/
As you can see, your system did send me the message that I sent manually
through your server. Seems that you have a configuration error.
--- Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Imel [mailto:mimel@imelshire.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 0:19
To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Open Relay
I'm a new james user, and i prematurely submitted my site to http://ordb.org
for what i thought was just testing to see if my mail server was an open
relay.
Not only did they report me as an Open Relay, but i've been added to some
sort of OpenRelay database.
I immediately checked the FAQs on James and found this link:
http://james.apache.org/FAQ.html#2
I understand that James will indeed block Open Relay types of Spam, but is
there a way for me to convince http://ordb.org that my mail server isn't an
OpenRelay with James?
Thanks,
--mark imel
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Re: James crashes after a while under Linux
Posted by Stephan Wiesner <st...@stephan-wiesner.de>.
I installed James on a second Linux machine today (Debian) and will try
to find out more. Both systems are testsystems with no traffic at all
during the night, so your statement about your millions of messages
might underline my (absoulutely unproved) oppinion that it is some kind
of time out. Both my systems store users and mails in MySQL (which is
iddle the whole night as well)..
Stephan
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>Does this happen with both db-stores and file-stores?
>>
>>
>
>The longest I have run James with the file-stores, during testing, was 72
>hours and some millions of messages. The longest I have run James with the
>db-stores is several months. These tests were all with James on the latest
>linux 2.2 kernel and either IBM 1.3.1 or a current Sun 1.4.1 JDK.
>Interestingly, I've never had a problem with -server, either.
>
>
>
>>I seem to recall a post earlier that said James is not happy
>>if the db server is restarted or dis/re-connected.
>>
>>
>
>Correct. The "autoreconnect" parameter should help with that problem for
>drivers that support it.
>
> --- Noel
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RE: James crashes after a while under Linux
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> Does this happen with both db-stores and file-stores?
The longest I have run James with the file-stores, during testing, was 72
hours and some millions of messages. The longest I have run James with the
db-stores is several months. These tests were all with James on the latest
linux 2.2 kernel and either IBM 1.3.1 or a current Sun 1.4.1 JDK.
Interestingly, I've never had a problem with -server, either.
> I seem to recall a post earlier that said James is not happy
> if the db server is restarted or dis/re-connected.
Correct. The "autoreconnect" parameter should help with that problem for
drivers that support it.
--- Noel
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Re: James crashes after a while under Linux
Posted by Steve <st...@browsermedia.com>.
Does this happen with both db-stores and file-stores? I had a theory
once before that the database was disconnecting after an exteneded
idle time. I seem to recall a post earlier that said James is not happy
if the db server is restarted or dis/re-connected. I also noted that
the problem for me went away when I switched back to file stores.
Any thoughts? Perhaps this is a red-herring?
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephan Wiesner" <st...@stephan-wiesner.de>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: James crashes after a while under Linux
> Hi list,
> I encounter the same problem. Looks like a timeout to me.
> The server runs fine all day long, when I check for mail periodically,
> but terminates without an errormessage during the night, when nobody
> accesses it.
> Happend three nights in a row now.
> Suse Linux 8.0, nightly build and JDK 1.4.1
>
> Stephan
>
> Jm Seigneur wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >According to the thread "RE: James Stopped!", it may be interesting to
> >know how many people experienced crashes with James.
> >
> >So, this configuration crashes after a while:
> >
> >OS: Linux RedHat 8.0
> >JVM: Sun 1.4.1_02-b06 Hotspot mixed mode
> >-server used in phoenix.sh script
> >
> >At the moment, I'm trying without the -server option.
> >
> >All the best,
> >
> >Jm
> >
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Re: James crashes after a while under Linux
Posted by Stephan Wiesner <st...@stephan-wiesner.de>.
Hi list,
I encounter the same problem. Looks like a timeout to me.
The server runs fine all day long, when I check for mail periodically,
but terminates without an errormessage during the night, when nobody
accesses it.
Happend three nights in a row now.
Suse Linux 8.0, nightly build and JDK 1.4.1
Stephan
Jm Seigneur wrote:
>Hello,
>
>According to the thread "RE: James Stopped!", it may be interesting to
>know how many people experienced crashes with James.
>
>So, this configuration crashes after a while:
>
>OS: Linux RedHat 8.0
>JVM: Sun 1.4.1_02-b06 Hotspot mixed mode
>-server used in phoenix.sh script
>
>At the moment, I'm trying without the -server option.
>
>All the best,
>
>Jm
>
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Re: James crashes after a while under Linux
Posted by Siraj Shakil <sh...@yahoo.com>.
Hello,
I have been running a James installation on a
production environment for 2+ months now on the same
spec. It hasn't crahsed yeat. I use the hotspot server
switch and no other swiches. My installations
processes more than 200 mails everyday.
Best regards,
Shakil
--- Jm Seigneur <Je...@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> According to the thread "RE: James Stopped!", it may
> be interesting to
> know how many people experienced crashes with James.
>
> So, this configuration crashes after a while:
>
> OS: Linux RedHat 8.0
> JVM: Sun 1.4.1_02-b06 Hotspot mixed mode
> -server used in phoenix.sh script
>
> At the moment, I'm trying without the -server
> option.
>
> All the best,
>
> Jm
>
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RE: James crashes after a while under Linux
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Would be nice to understand this issue. I always run James with -server,
and have have any problems.
--- Noel
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RE: James crashes after a while under Linux
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
Jean-Marc,
I can't run james with the -server option, it *always* dies sooer or later.
d.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jm Seigneur [mailto:Jean-Marc.Seigneur@cs.tcd.ie]
> Sent: 21 April 2003 13:43
> To: 'James Users List'
> Subject: James crashes after a while under Linux
>
>
> Hello,
>
> According to the thread "RE: James Stopped!", it may be interesting to
> know how many people experienced crashes with James.
>
> So, this configuration crashes after a while:
>
> OS: Linux RedHat 8.0
> JVM: Sun 1.4.1_02-b06 Hotspot mixed mode
> -server used in phoenix.sh script
>
> At the moment, I'm trying without the -server option.
>
> All the best,
>
> Jm
>
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James crashes after a while under Linux
Posted by Jm Seigneur <Je...@cs.tcd.ie>.
Hello,
According to the thread "RE: James Stopped!", it may be interesting to
know how many people experienced crashes with James.
So, this configuration crashes after a while:
OS: Linux RedHat 8.0
JVM: Sun 1.4.1_02-b06 Hotspot mixed mode
-server used in phoenix.sh script
At the moment, I'm trying without the -server option.
All the best,
Jm
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RE: RE: excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar ??
Posted by Jm Seigneur <Je...@cs.tcd.ie>.
Hello Stephan,
That's what I did first but then my Linux James started to crash after a
while. So, I'm trying to properly reinstall James under Linux.
Actually, javax/activation/Datasource is part of activation.jar not
excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar.
Now, my question is: When should activation.jar be installed in the
james lib directory?
I read your recent tutorial and for some reasons it didn't work to unzip
and run.sh.
To get it working, I had to copy manually activation.jar (that I had
somewhere else) in james lib.
Then, James started and I found out that under
...work/james-aNumber/SAR-INF/lib/ there were activation.jar,
mail_1_3.jar, cornerstone.jar, james.jar and other jars that I copied
under james lib. Otherwise, I couldn't start my Mailets because
james.jar couldn't be found after stopping James, changing the
config.xml (pointing to my Mailets) and restarting. After copying all
these jars, it worked and I hope that it's not going to crash this time
;)
Thanks anyway,
Jm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephan Wiesner [mailto:stephan@stephan-wiesner.de]
> Sent: 18 April 2003 17:29
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar ??
>
> Hi Jm,
> I simply copied my Windows version 1 to 1 to my Linux server and only
> edited the config.xml, so all JAR files are identical for me. Should
> work for you too.
>
> Stephan
>
> Jm Seigneur wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >I've reinstalled James under Linux but it seems that
> >excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar isn't present in the james lib
directory.
> >Then, when I start ./run.sh, Phoenix starts but James doesn't because
> >there's a java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError :
javax/activation/Datasource.
> >I suspect it is because the excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar isn't in the
> >lib directory. This excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar doesn't seem to be
in
> >the james-2.1.2.zip. I don't remember how I ended up with
> >excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar in my Windows james lib. Is it the
problem?
> >Should I copy excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar in the james lib
directory?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Jm
> >
> >
> >
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Re: excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar ??
Posted by Stephan Wiesner <st...@stephan-wiesner.de>.
Hi Jm,
I simply copied my Windows version 1 to 1 to my Linux server and only
edited the config.xml, so all JAR files are identical for me. Should
work for you too.
Stephan
Jm Seigneur wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I've reinstalled James under Linux but it seems that
>excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar isn't present in the james lib directory.
>Then, when I start ./run.sh, Phoenix starts but James doesn't because
>there's a java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError : javax/activation/Datasource.
>I suspect it is because the excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar isn't in the
>lib directory. This excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar doesn't seem to be in
>the james-2.1.2.zip. I don't remember how I ended up with
>excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar in my Windows james lib. Is it the problem?
>Should I copy excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar in the james lib directory?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jm
>
>
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excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar ??
Posted by Jm Seigneur <Je...@cs.tcd.ie>.
Hello,
I've reinstalled James under Linux but it seems that
excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar isn't present in the james lib directory.
Then, when I start ./run.sh, Phoenix starts but James doesn't because
there's a java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError : javax/activation/Datasource.
I suspect it is because the excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar isn't in the
lib directory. This excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar doesn't seem to be in
the james-2.1.2.zip. I don't remember how I ended up with
excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar in my Windows james lib. Is it the problem?
Should I copy excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar in the james lib directory?
Thanks,
Jm
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RE: Open Relay
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Mark,
How did you configure James? If you didn't properly setup the
RemoteAddrNotInNetwork matcher, you could indeed be an open relay.
Apparently, ordb was able to send e-mail through your server, as logged by
http://ordb.org/lookup/?host=Imelshire.com.
Once your configuration is working properly, you can have ordb.org retest
your site (http://ordb.org/removal/).
I did just try to send e-mail through your server to myself, but so far I
have not received any. Check your logs and error/spam directories. Do you
see messages from me in there? You might also look for mail send to
ordb.org.
--- Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Imel [mailto:mimel@imelshire.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 0:19
To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Open Relay
I'm a new james user, and i prematurely submitted my site to http://ordb.org
for what i thought was just testing to see if my mail server was an open
relay.
Not only did they report me as an Open Relay, but i've been added to some
sort of OpenRelay database.
I immediately checked the FAQs on James and found this link:
http://james.apache.org/FAQ.html#2
I understand that James will indeed block Open Relay types of Spam, but is
there a way for me to convince http://ordb.org that my mail server isn't an
OpenRelay with James?
Thanks,
--mark imel
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Re: Open Relay
Posted by Mark Imel <mi...@imelshire.com>.
Sorry all, for kicking off this tired debate...
I had read the Faq at http://james.apache.org/FAQ.html#2 (and mentioned it
in my initial email) but of course with the list threads, the full
conversation was truncated.
I certainly never meant to imply that James was an Open Relay Mail Server.
I was just attempting to get a bit more information, and also potentially
warn people from using the services at http://ordb.org when checking the
status of their mail server, UNTIL they had done some thorough testing of
their own.
I had prematurely submitted my site to http://ordb.org, and was dismayed
that i was automatically added to their open relay data base...
I kind of panicked...
Read some FAQs...
Wanted a bit more info...
Then got back to Properly configuring James...
resubmitted my site...
And was removed from their open relay data base... (Success!)
End result, I'm a very happy James user that is not hosting an open relay...
And I have the tests to prove it.
Thanks all for the information.
Regards,
--Mark Imel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Diego Castillo" <di...@inexbee.com>
To: "'James Users List'" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:18 AM
Subject: RE : Open Relay
Hi Mark,
Reconfigure your James and ask them to run their spam again against your
IP. In about 1 day you will be removed from their database and receive a
report by email.
Their spam test consists in sending 3 mails to your James sent to an
address looking like *@*.ordb.org. If it is properly configured, they
should show up in your spam repository.
Regards,
Diego
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Mark Imel [mailto:mimel@imelshire.com]
Envoyé : mardi 4 février 2003 06:19
À : james-user@jakarta.apache.org
Objet : Open Relay
I'm a new james user, and i prematurely submitted my site to
http://ordb.org for what i thought was just testing to see if my mail
server was an open relay.
Not only did they report me as an Open Relay, but i've been added to
some sort of OpenRelay database.
I immediately checked the FAQs on James and found this link:
http://james.apache.org/FAQ.html#2
I understand that James will indeed block Open Relay types of Spam, but
is there a way for me to convince http://ordb.org that my mail server
isn't an OpenRelay with James?
Thanks,
--mark imel
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RE : Open Relay
Posted by Diego Castillo <di...@inexbee.com>.
Hi Mark,
Reconfigure your James and ask them to run their spam again against your
IP. In about 1 day you will be removed from their database and receive a
report by email.
Their spam test consists in sending 3 mails to your James sent to an
address looking like *@*.ordb.org. If it is properly configured, they
should show up in your spam repository.
Regards,
Diego
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Mark Imel [mailto:mimel@imelshire.com]
Envoyé : mardi 4 février 2003 06:19
À : james-user@jakarta.apache.org
Objet : Open Relay
I'm a new james user, and i prematurely submitted my site to
http://ordb.org for what i thought was just testing to see if my mail
server was an open relay.
Not only did they report me as an Open Relay, but i've been added to
some sort of OpenRelay database.
I immediately checked the FAQs on James and found this link:
http://james.apache.org/FAQ.html#2
I understand that James will indeed block Open Relay types of Spam, but
is there a way for me to convince http://ordb.org that my mail server
isn't an OpenRelay with James?
Thanks,
--mark imel
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RE: Problem with From Part in the headers
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
Damian,
Post that part of your config.xml, a description of what you are trying to do, and the version number you are using.
Without that we can only guess.
d.
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> From: Damian Minkov [mailto:damian@space-comm.com]
> Sent: 24 February 2003 14:44
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Problem with From Part in the headers
>
>
> I have a big problem in our office we switched to James
> When i wrote the mailets for our e-mail in the config file
> we have problems. Mails are being received with changed From: part in
> the headers.
> The From: mail isn't the one of the real sender but one random from the
> users using this mail server. Ant the From: is different from
> Return-Path: and Reply-To: which are the real sender. What is the
> problem ?
> Can you help me please?
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Problem with From Part in the headers
Posted by Damian Minkov <da...@space-comm.com>.
I have a big problem in our office we switched to James
When i wrote the mailets for our e-mail in the config file
we have problems. Mails are being received with changed From: part in
the headers.
The From: mail isn't the one of the real sender but one random from the
users using this mail server. Ant the From: is different from
Return-Path: and Reply-To: which are the real sender. What is the
problem ?
Can you help me please?
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RE: Error when using JAMES with gateway SMTP Server
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> We are using JAMES 2.0a.2 build in our web based
> application.
Are you able to upgrade to James v2.1?
> RemoteDelivery: Permanent exception delivering mail
> (Mail1043749896491-5-!558846114-to-yahoo.com:
> javax.mail.MessagingException: 553 5.3.0 ... Not in allowed user
Check your gateway server to make sure that (a) it is the one rejecting, and
(b) why.
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Error when using JAMES with gateway SMTP Server
Posted by mohan <mo...@yahoo.com>.
Hi,
We are using JAMES 2.0a.2 build in our web based
application. JAMES sends the mail to a gateway SMTP
server. For this, JAMES has been configured in
config.xml.
As per the logs, JAMES is trying to send mail to the
gateway server. But error is thrown as given below :
SGT 2003 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery:
Permanent exception delivering mail
(Mail1043749896491-5-!558846114-to-yahoo.com:
javax.mail.MessagingException: 553 5.3.0 ... Not in
allowed user at
com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.issueCommand(SMTPTransport.java:879)
at
com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.mailFrom(SMTPTransport.java:599)
at
com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.sendMessage(SMTPTransport.java:319)
at
org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.deliver(RemoteDelivery.java:191)
at
org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.run(RemoteDelivery.java:394)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
Can anybody give some clue ?
Thanks and regards,
Mohan
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