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Posted to users@cxf.apache.org by Johannes Elsinghorst - con terra GmbH <j....@conterra.de.INVALID> on 2024/02/29 07:39:23 UTC
Future of SOAP
Hi,
we have been developing SOAP based webservices for customers based on provided WSDLs using CXF for years now.
I was wondering what the community’s opinion on the future of SOAP is. Is there still active development of the WS-* standards and implementing frameworks?
Will CXF support SOAP for the years to come or is it more of an almost dead horse ?
Any insights, opinions, and links to further resources on the matter are welcome 😊
Best,
Johannes
Re: Future of SOAP
Posted by Johan Edstrom <se...@gmail.com>.
Sitting on a plane,
I personally switched to json payload generation in a cxf or camel stack about a decade ago, the tenants of soap or protocol agnostic delivery of message still stand but stuff moves on, in commercial stuff i encounter rest, weird stuff dating back to axis as well as odata.
Internally, who cares, generate it?
Sent from my pressure cooker.
> On Feb 29, 2024, at 02:50, Anders Rundgren <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 2024-02-29 8:39, Johannes Elsinghorst - con terra GmbH wrote:
>> Hi,
>> we have been developing SOAP based webservices for customers based on provided WSDLs using CXF for years now.
>> I was wondering what the community’s opinion on the future of SOAP is. Is there still active development of the WS-* standards and implementing frameworks?
>> Will CXF support SOAP for the years to come or is it more of an almost dead horse ?
>> Any insights, opinions, and links to further resources on the matter are welcome 😊
>
> A very good question.
>
> It seems that JSON has replaced XML for new developments.
> Unlike XML Security which hasn't moved in a decade, JSON Security (JOSE WG) is very active including targeting quantum crypto.
>
> Just to make it slightly more "fun" (...), I have personally given up on JSON in favor of CBOR.
> Rationale: https://github.com/cyberphone/cbor-everywhere
> CBOR Security: https://test.webpki.org/csf-lab/home
> Proposed (by me...) JavaScript standard: https://github.com/cyberphone/CBOR.js#cborjs
>
> Anders
>
>> Best,
>> Johannes
>
Re: Future of SOAP
Posted by Anders Rundgren <an...@gmail.com>.
On 2024-02-29 8:39, Johannes Elsinghorst - con terra GmbH wrote:
> Hi,
> we have been developing SOAP based webservices for customers based on provided WSDLs using CXF for years now.
> I was wondering what the community’s opinion on the future of SOAP is. Is there still active development of the WS-* standards and implementing frameworks?
> Will CXF support SOAP for the years to come or is it more of an almost dead horse ?
> Any insights, opinions, and links to further resources on the matter are welcome 😊
A very good question.
It seems that JSON has replaced XML for new developments.
Unlike XML Security which hasn't moved in a decade, JSON Security (JOSE WG) is very active including targeting quantum crypto.
Just to make it slightly more "fun" (...), I have personally given up on JSON in favor of CBOR.
Rationale: https://github.com/cyberphone/cbor-everywhere
CBOR Security: https://test.webpki.org/csf-lab/home
Proposed (by me...) JavaScript standard: https://github.com/cyberphone/CBOR.js#cborjs
Anders
>
> Best,
> Johannes
>